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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: inturnaround on June 17, 2008, 11:42:48 AM
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According to their posts (http://\"http://aspecialthing.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=o5n1nvi6d20jfdre9ag475rg60&topic=8993.msg182409#new\") on the comedy fanboard "A Special Thing", the new host of Fremantle's "Match Game" remake will not be longtime LA live show host (and former "National Lampoon's Funny Money" emcee) Jimmy Pardo, but instead former "Mad TV" cast member Andy Daly.
While I'm sad Jimmy didn't get the gig, I'm glad it went to someone as sharp as Andy.
No official word outside of these posts, however. The AST board is well-known as a hang-out for comedians and both Andy Daly and Jimmy Pardo post there. (AST produces Pardo's podcast "Never Not Funny"...on which Daly has been a guest on a few occasions)
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At first I was horrified at the choice, then realized I was thinking of Andy Dick.
I remember Daly from doing one season of MadTV, but don't remember any significant sketches he appeared in (maybe because I thought the 2001 season was horrible and filled with way too many "Stuart" sketches).
Would like to have seen Pardo get a shot, but I'm interested to see where Daly can go with this.
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He was Ben Franklin on that memorable episode of "The Office" and he was the announcer in Will Ferrell's "Semi-Pro".
No doubt the man is funny and he has made me laugh many times. I think he's now the least of our worries when it comes to the remake. What will they do for a panel?
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Buzzerblog posted this morning that on the Audience Casting notice, two celebs are listed. Those two celebs are Sarah Silverman and Norm Mcdonald.
Here is the page for the Audience: http://www.ocatv.com/shows/show/210 (http://\"http://www.ocatv.com/shows/show/210\")
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[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'188346\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 09:49 AM\']
Those two celebs are Sarah Silverman and Norm Mcdonald.
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http://webhollis.com/albums/Pop-SNL-Celebr...rdy04.thumb.jpg (http://\"http://webhollis.com/albums/Pop-SNL-Celebrity-Jeopardy/CelebrityJeopardy04.thumb.jpg\")
Approves
/it's a big hat
//it's funny
///because it's big
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You don't hire a comedian to emcee Match Game. Does anyone not understand why?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188352\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 03:08 PM\']
You don't hire a comedian to emcee Match Game. Does anyone not understand why?
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Because the material (and subsequently the celebrities) should make the entertainment? With the host making wisecracks as well, you lose someone to moderate the zaniness, and wind up with a clusterfrick of a show, esp. with two established comedians on the panel?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188352\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 03:08 PM\']
You don't hire a comedian to emcee Match Game. Does anyone not understand why?
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True, but you don't want someone who will be a complete stick up there.
But we all know that they want more comedians for more laughs, even (probably) at the expense of the game.
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I think it's fine to hire a comedian, if said comedian is allowed/instructed to keep control first and foremost. I think Gene Rayburn was a very funny man, but he knew when to crack wise and when to move the game along. Also, a good stand-up comedian has experience with "crowd control" and with watching a clock.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'188361\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 03:33 PM\']
I think it's fine to hire a comedian, if said comedian is allowed/instructed to keep control first and foremost. I think Gene Rayburn was a very funny man, but he knew when to crack wise and when to move the game along. Also, a good stand-up comedian has experience with "crowd control" and with watching a clock.
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Wasn't Ross Shafer a stand-up comic before delving into talk shows and eventually into the MG90 gig?
/Shafer isn't really on my list of what went wrong with that show.
//Too many Susan Norfleet appearances is high on my list.
///Not to mention Scorch.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188352\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 03:08 PM\']
You don't hire a comedian to emcee Match Game. Does anyone not understand why?
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But not all comedians are the same. Robin Williams /= David Walliams, for example.
Daly's a reserved kind of guy. He's not going to step on peoples lines and he's not going to want to be the center of attention. He'll run the game well and he'll get in a line or two, playing off what the contetants and panel feed him. His improv background will shine through.
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I'm much more concerned about Sarah destroying the show with her self-absorption.
And I even think she's funny. (Sometimes.)
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'188371\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 06:42 PM\']
I'm much more concerned about Sarah destroying the show with her self-absorption.
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My thing with Silverman is that she tries entirely way too hard to be edgy or controversial. If she can just give answers and the occasional wisecrack, then I'm all for it.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'188372\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 06:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'188371\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 06:42 PM\']
I'm much more concerned about Sarah destroying the show with her self-absorption.
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she can just give answers and the occasional wisecrack, then I'm all for it.
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Which , as you can bet right now, that just ain't going to happen.
Norm, I think , will be good at this. Sarah, I think, will not.
So far, I'm mixed on this remake. Is the 6 member panel going to be the same every episode?
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I agree. I think Sarah does try WAY too hard to be edgy. Then again, Kathy Griffin can also be very edgy and caustic with her material, but she kept a good restraint as a MG panelist when she did MG with Ricki Lake. I think if they can find a middle ground between the "perfect chemistry" that MG 7x had and the "so risque that over half the answers had to be censored" that MG 98 had, it might be okay. Rosie O'Donnell also might make for a good panelist, because I think when it comes to game shows, she knows it's about playing the game and not about pushing her views which she did on her daytime show.
I am actually relieved that Hilary won't be president only because we had MORE than enough of Bill Clinton stuff on MG 98.
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From Cynopsis.net..... Looks like the panel is set...the question still remains if they'll be intact for the entire series.... personally, I'm hoping they aren't.
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A pilot of an updated version of the classic game show The Match Game is on tap at TBS, reports THR. Signed on to play the game are panelist players Sarah Silverman, Norm McDonald, Super Dave Osborne, Rashida Jones, Niecy Nash and Scott Thompson. Hosting duties go to Andrew Daly.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'188517\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 03:39 AM\']Signed on to play the game are panelist players Sarah Silverman, Norm McDonald, Super Dave Osborne, Rashida Jones, Niecy Nash and Scott Thompson. Hosting duties go to Andrew Daly.
[/quote]I'm predicting the usual "Ugh, who are these people?", so though you may not recognize the names, surely you'll recognize where they come from:
- Sarah and Norm have been explained, obviously the biggest names coming from TV and stand-up backgrounds
- Super Dave is Bob Einstein's inept stuntman character
- Rashida was Jim's Stamford fling Karen on The Office
- Niecy plays Raineesha Williams on Reno 911!
- Scott is a TV personality, famous for his time on Kids in the Hall
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Strange they moved the taping from Studio 33 to 58.
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Be careful googling Niecy at work.
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Looks like the panel is set...the question still remains if they'll be intact for the entire series.... personally, I'm hoping they aren't.
I think they're stuck with them whether they work out or not, just as there was no way to get rid of Judy Tenuta. I don't see Bob Einstein setting the world on fire. Scott Thompson should be OK, better than Bruce Vilanch.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'188523\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 08:42 AM\']
Be careful googling Niecy at work.[/quote]
Oh, my. I'm not sure I can count the number of things wrong with that.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188526\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 10:00 AM\']
I don't see Bob Einstein setting the world on fire. Scott Thompson should be OK, better than Bruce Vilanch.
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I don't know if Bob Einstein will be all that funny, but he does bring some name recognition to the table...at least with this MG panel, the average TV-watching American won't see too many unfamiliar faces.
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After the way the Burger version was so badly screwed up, I'm not holding my breath on this one, although the panel seems to have a bit more hope. I do hope it has enough success to make the jump to prime time network. Then again, you can get away with a bit more on cable in the risqué department.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'188528\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 09:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188526\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 10:00 AM\']
I don't see Bob Einstein setting the world on fire. Scott Thompson should be OK, better than Bruce Vilanch.
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I don't know if Bob Einstein will be all that funny, but he does bring some name recognition to the table...at least with this MG panel, the average TV-watching American won't see too many unfamiliar faces.
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He's hilarious on "Curb Your Enthusiasm," but I'm not sure how well dry humor works on "Match Game." And how many of the young people know who Super Dave is, let alone Evel Knieval.
And it'll definitely hold them back filling the panel with all regulars. It needs some spice.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'188528\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 07:52 AM\']
I don't know if Bob Einstein will be all that funny, but he does bring some name recognition to the table...[/quote]
In 1981? Sure.
/remembers Bizarre
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'188530\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 11:11 AM\']And it'll definitely hold them back filling the panel with all regulars. It needs some spice.[/quote]
As far as I can tell, nobody's talking any more than pilot at this point. A panel show like IGAS is one thing, but I can't imagine they'd make the mistake of not mixing up the celebs on Match Game at least a little each week.
/At least not again.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'188532\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 08:31 AM\']
I can't imagine they'd make the mistake of not mixing up the celebs on Match Game at least a little each week.[/quote]
Hey, you try to move Nell Carter.
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A line from a mainstream story that I though our resident expert historians would like:
"If it gets picked up, Match Game will be TBS' first game show."
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It's not an issue for the historians...it's an issue for Entertainment Weekly's (http://\"http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20207921,00.html\") proofreaders. They sourced the Hollywood Reporter (http://\"http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i817c2c7aa26bf3da7f7f5d438af2cd20\") and then managed to misstate the original article, which clearly says MG wouldn't be TBS's first game show.
/also checked to make sure you weren't quoting the AP
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'188520\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 04:46 AM\']
Strange they moved the taping from Studio 33 to 58.[/quote]
Error - it taped in 33.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'188538\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 12:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'188520\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 04:46 AM\']
Strange they moved the taping from Studio 33 to 58.[/quote]
Error - it taped in 33.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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So then, how was it??
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And the full-length THR article stated that Robert Smigel, the man behind Triumph the Insult Comic Dog and Saturday TV Funhouse, will be the executive producer.
Don't think Perfesser's going to like it, but it sounds promising.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'188562\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 01:52 PM\']
And the full-length THR article stated that Robert Smigel, the man behind Triumph the Insult Comic Dog[/quote]
And by "behind" you mean "with his arm up the ass of." :)
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One of the posters on the AST board reports that the panel at the first pilot taping was seated thusly (SPOILERS....but only if you consider who sat where a SPOILER):
top row: Bob "Super Dave" Einstein, Sarah Silverman, Scott Thompson
bottom row: Rashida Jones, Norm MacDonald, Niecy Nash
They didn't attend the second taping, so I've no idea if this was the setup for the later taping.
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' post=\'188564\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 02:28 PM\']
top row: Bob "Super Dave" Einstein, Sarah Silverman, Scott Thompson[/quote]
Well, at least they know their Match Game stereotypes.
/and they got an asshat for the Richard Dawson chair!
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I know exactly three of them (Sarah, Rashida, Norm). They seem to have slotted them well.
I have faith. It's the same faith that exploded when I saw Temptation: The All New Failure of the Century for the first time, though....
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188565\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 05:37 PM\']Well, at least they know their Match Game stereotypes.[/quote]
QFT.
On tonight's Entertainment Tonight, there was a story about the new version, with clips from the old version. Oddly, they showed a clip from an episode with Charles Nelson Reilly in the first chair.
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Charles Nelson Reilly in the first chair
Hey! That seat's reserved for Bill Cullen!
I know a little something about putting on Match Game (Matt, wouldn't you say we had pretty decent material last summer?). I also made a mistake which is easy to fix. Hope that Robert Smigel gets it WRT putting on MG.
I will post what I know about producing Match Game out of public view.
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I attended the second pilot taping yesterday.
I was expecting to see a 2008 revamp of the show top to bottom, but low and behold, it was the 1970's all over again. (Not that this is necessarily bad).
The set is the same, the theme has been revived (kudos to fremantle, one of my faves) and even the opening copy ("Get ready to match the stars") is back. The announcer was named Gilbert (didn't catch last name). The only game element that has changed is the super-match which now is five $1000 questions that have to be answered in 30 seconds and the player can throw out two of his worst answers and take a celeb's replacement answer instead. Head-to-head prize is double super-match winnings ($10,000 top). It was stated off camera that the S-M Answers were the result of a Quinnipiac U poll, not the "recent studio audience" (maybe because there hasn't been one!).
Same panel config at second taping as posted here was at first. Although I thought they were trying a bit too hard to be raunchy, it was typical MG. Andy Daly did a smooth job as host and kept the game moving.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188569\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 08:21 PM\']
(Matt, wouldn't you say we had pretty decent material last summer?)[/quote]
Actually, I already did. But I'll say it here too. Yes, I loved everything about our Match Game. And when I say "our" Match Game, I mean Chris' Match Game. It was his baby, and he raised it beautifully.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'188523\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 08:42 AM\']
Be careful googling Niecy at work, home, or anywhere on Earth.
[/quote]
Much better.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'188578\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 08:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188569\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 08:21 PM\']
(Matt, wouldn't you say we had pretty decent material last summer?)[/quote]
Actually, I already did. But I'll say it here too. Yes, I loved everything about our Match Game. And when I say "our" Match Game, I mean Chris' Match Game. It was his baby, and he raised it beautifully.
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Thank you for the kudos. Our good friend Randy deserves the most kudos of all for coming in without having had a chance to walk through it or see the questions beforehand, and pulling it off flawlessly.
BTW, Bob Stewart has finished speaking now.
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Just for the record, the Fark.com discussion (http://\"http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3682796#new\") about this is interesting, if only because the prospective audience of the show may be the Fark demographic.
Good comment out of many:
"Just leave it alone, Hollywood.
It was funny back when Rayburn did it because of the double-entendres. It was at a time when you couldn't say "penis" or even say "sex" on TV.
The humor was edgy and risque back then. And even then, there was only so far and so long that "Dumb Dora was so dumb...." and the overall concept of filling in the blank would be funny.
Please folks, it's been tried several times before, and failed. Times have changed. Give it up."
Bad comment:
This show would be a brazillion times better on HBO. If they could all get trashed, smoke and swear, who cares what the questions would be
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This argument doesn't hold up for me. It makes no sense to NOT try to revive a successful product, even if there have been multiple failures to do so already. You never know what the audience will respond to until you put it out there.
If the memory of MG73 was to be sullied beyond reparation by a bad remake, it would already be the case.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'188588\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 06:54 AM\']
If the memory of MG73 was to be sullied beyond reparation by a bad remake, it would already be the case.[/quote]
http://timstvshowcase.com/matchgm3.jpg (http://\"http://timstvshowcase.com/matchgm3.jpg\")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188605\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 03:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'188588\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 06:54 AM\']
If the memory of MG73 was to be sullied beyond reparation by a bad remake, it would already be the case.[/quote]
http://timstvshowcase.com/matchgm3.jpg (http://\"http://timstvshowcase.com/matchgm3.jpg\")
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I've seen only a few minutes total of MG98 on YouTube and I'm ready to state that that is the worst version of MG I've ever watched.
/FIVE panelists, Jay?
//And that was the tip of the iceberg...er, pooppile.
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[quote name=\'jalman\' post=\'188611\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 12:40 PM\']
//And that was the tip of the iceberg...er, pooppile.[/quote]
No, "iceberg" was wholly appropriate. In a Titanic sort of way.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188605\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 12:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'188588\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 06:54 AM\']
If the memory of MG73 was to be sullied beyond reparation by a bad remake, it would already be the case.[/quote]
http://timstvshowcase.com/matchgm3.jpg (http://\"http://timstvshowcase.com/matchgm3.jpg\")
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Wrong picture, bra:
http://www.thecomedygreenroom.com/images/judytenuta.jpg (http://\"http://www.thecomedygreenroom.com/images/judytenuta.jpg\")
Face it, if it weren't for GSN rerunning eps of MG '7x, the CBS version would have faded into distant memory by now and people's recollections would only be of MG '98. Has GSN ever run a single episode of '98?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188660\' date=\'Jun 22 2008, 08:29 AM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188605\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 12:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'188588\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 06:54 AM\']
If the memory of MG73 was to be sullied beyond reparation by a bad remake, it would already be the case.[/quote]
http://timstvshowcase.com/matchgm3.jpg (http://\"http://timstvshowcase.com/matchgm3.jpg\")
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Wrong picture, bra:
http://www.thecomedygreenroom.com/images/judytenuta.jpg (http://\"http://www.thecomedygreenroom.com/images/judytenuta.jpg\")
Face it, if it weren't for GSN rerunning eps of MG '7x, the CBS version would have faded into distant memory by now and people's recollections would only be of MG '98. Has GSN ever run a single episode of '98?
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No. Does GSN even have the rights to MG '98?
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Does GSN even have the rights to MG '98?
Deity forbid. With apologies to Mandel Ilagan, '98 should be banned from public exhibition.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188664\' date=\'Jun 22 2008, 07:58 AM\']
Does GSN even have the rights to MG '98?
Deity forbid. With apologies to Mandel Ilagan, '98 should be banned from public exhibition. [/quote]
OK, I'd like to see his episode...annnnnnnnd that's about it.
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I stayed up to 3:00 AM to catch a glimpse of MG98.
Needless to say, it wasn't worth the wait.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'188671\' date=\'Jun 22 2008, 12:15 PM\']
I stayed up to 3:00 AM to catch a glimpse of MG98.
Needless to say, it wasn't worth the wait.
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I just taped it from WGN rather than stay up that late...and I'm glad I got my sleep! :)
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'188710\' date=\'Jun 22 2008, 08:56 PM\']
I just taped it from WGN rather than stay up that late...and I'm glad I got my sleep! :)
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WGN didn't even bother to waste the program on Chicago audiences--they just flipped it over to the superstation feed. Someone else showed it locally.
/Although STREET SMARTS cleared both the local and superstation feeds.
//Much better show by comparison.
///Not saying much.
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Jaime Weinman has some interesting thoughts on the MG revival here (http://\"http://blog.macleans.ca/2008/06/23/jaime-has-so-many-news-links-instead-of-original-content-they-replaced-him-with-a-_______/\").
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[quote name='DrBear' date='Jun 22 2008, 11:58 AM' post='188669']
[quote name='chris319' post='188664' date='Jun 22 2008, 07:58 AM'] Does GSN even have the rights to MG '98?
Deity forbid. With apologies to Mandel Ilagan, '98 should be banned from public exhibition. [/quote]
OK, I'd like to see his episode...annnnnnnnd that's about it.
That episode, and one featuring a contestant named Matthew are the only real highlights of the show's short lived run. Matthew was the heavy set guy with a yamulca on his head. Judy was doing some weird hand motions, sending "vibes" to Matthew, and Matthew sent her "vibes" back, making VERY funny facial expressions. Michael did a Jack Benny-like take and commented "for a moment, Matthew was channeling something REALLY weird" I only have to say that if the contestant is more interesting and funnier than the panel, the show's in trouble!
Another noteworthy contestant was Sarabeth Rothfeld. At the point she was on, the show was really barreling downhill (at this point the set was changed to the greyish purple set, which IMO was when the show started to degrade in quality further) with censored answers, more blatant "cheating" with the panelists literally huddling together to all come up with the same answer, and I think there was also an answer that her opponent gave that got a lot of leniency in terms of matching. For the record, she won her game, but lost her Super Match.
The producer of MG 98 called us during GSC9 and said the CBS O and O's hated the first set, said it was much too bright, so they redid the set and consequentially had to redo the intro, which they didn't want to do. IMO, while the intro was a little too long, I liked the concept of the set pieces falling into place while the audience seated themselves. They should've just introduced the panel and the host, and that's it.
He also said it was Pearson that insisted on rewriting the questions to have fewer possible answers for more matching. They didn't think Match Game had enough matching. He also said that if MG had been renewed, it was possible that they were going to revert back to 6 panelists and restructuring the questions.
For the record, Jay wanted 6 panelists and 3 rounds, but apparently there were some timing issues with adding a 3rd round (IMO it could've been done if the intro was shortened and they cut away some of the answer writing time... one of the flaws with the answer writing time was that Michael just kept repeating the question over and over. Gene did it right. Read it ONCE to the panel, maybe again if needed, but if a panelist was stuck, Gene just let them have the question card to read to themselves. On the original version, sometimes funny things happened while the answers were being written. The audience doesn't really need to hear the question more than twice! The set was built and the format was already set when Jay was brought on to the show. For me, there were too many missed opportunities for spontaneous humor on MG 98.
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'188805\' date=\'Jun 23 2008, 04:36 PM\']
For the record, Jay wanted 6 panelists and 3 rounds, but apparently there were some timing issues with adding a 3rd round (IMO it could've been done if the intro was shortened and they cut away some of the answer writing time... one of the flaws with the answer writing time was that Michael just kept repeating the question over and over. Gene did it right. Read it ONCE to the panel, maybe again if needed, but if a panelist was stuck, Gene just let them have the question card to read to themselves. On the original version, sometimes funny things happened while the answers were being written. The audience doesn't really need to hear the question more than twice! The set was built and the format was already set when Jay was brought on to the show. For me, there were too many missed opportunities for spontaneous humor on MG 98.
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Match Game PM , with three rounds, was edited. Often, heavily.
Gene didn't do it 'right'. The editors did.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'188806\' date=\'Jun 23 2008, 04:42 PM\']
Match Game PM , with three rounds, was edited. Often, heavily.
Gene didn't do it 'right'. The editors did.
[/quote]
Exactly. Watch the daytime version, about 1975 and earlier. Gene reads the questions over and over and over again, sometimes looking annoyed that he has to do so.
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'188669\' date=\'Jun 22 2008, 08:58 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'188664\' date=\'Jun 22 2008, 07:58 AM\'] Does GSN even have the rights to MG '98?
Deity forbid. With apologies to Mandel Ilagan, '98 should be banned from public exhibition. [/quote]
OK, I'd like to see his episode...annnnnnnnd that's about it.
[/quote]
Wait a second...did everyone forget that I was on MG'98?
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[quote name=\'Game Show Man\' post=\'188848\' date=\'Jun 24 2008, 06:51 AM\']
OK, I'd like to see his episode...annnnnnnnd that's about it.
Wait a second...did everyone forget that I was on MG'98?[/quote]
No. ;)
(JOKING, folks. It's a JOKE.)
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So, did anyone attend a taping. Comments, thoughts?
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The Match Game Live show hosted by Jimmy Pardo is being billed as the last show.
Said Scott Aukerman on the AST boards:
"Nelly Furtado coined the phrase, "All good things come to an end." And so must Match Game Live.
As most of you know, Match Game is being turned back into a TV show, and the fine folks at Freemantle have asked us to stop doing our live version while they figure out what's going on with that. Many of you know we have friends at Freemantle, who is producing. And we not only have friends who are behind the scenes of that show, but our good friend Andy Daly is hosting. So we've decided that we'll take some time off from Match Game for the foreseeable future.
So we've asked some of our favorite panelists to come back for one last blowout show. Hopefully you can all make it despite the last minute notice."
Shame. But Pardo still has his "Running Your Trap" game he runs...
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I got a chance to read all the posts, and they basically resurrected the old MG set for the MG pilot?! (a la Ricki Lake Game Show Marathon)
I guess Fremantle is taking the cue that the viewing audience likes familiarity. The Feud set looks like a nice update of the classic set. Same shapes, but a new look. TPIR looks pretty much the same, so why not make MG look pretty much the same?
I think this is the first time, however, that Fremantle decided to keep EVERYTHING the same INCLUDING the classic set.
I am all for a raunchier MG as long as it's done right. The panelists shouldn't try to upstage each other (I'm looking at YOU Judy T) and the answers should be suitable for airing on TV. I'd also like to see a panel that actually BELONGS together, not just names picked out of a hat like MG 98.
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'189119\' date=\'Jun 26 2008, 05:20 PM\']I'd also like to see a panel that actually BELONGS together, not just names picked out of a hat like MG 98.[/quote]That was not a hat.
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[quote name=\'Game Show Man\' post=\'188848\' date=\'Jun 24 2008, 09:51 AM\']
Wait a second...did everyone forget that I was on MG'98?
[/quote]
Yes.
I kid, I kid!
/taped the premiere on WGN at 5am and woke up at 6am that morning to watch it
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That was not a hat.
It was a cauldron.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188533\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 11:32 AM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'188532\' date=\'Jun 20 2008, 08:31 AM\']
I can't imagine they'd make the mistake of not mixing up the celebs on Match Game at least a little each week.[/quote]
Hey, you try to move Nell Carter.
[/quote]
It wasn't Nell - it was that damn water bottle that was weighing her down.
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Take this as you will, but a "reporter" (and I use that term loosely) from Hollywood Junket who attended the pilot taping said that one of the Super Match questions was : "Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog. By watching the video, it seems that the rules (and set) are untouched, but there's dirty answers a-plenty.
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[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 06:13 PM\']
"Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog.[/quote]
Huh. I'd have gone with the one that rhymes with "hunt." :)
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[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 08:13 PM\']
Take this as you will, but a "reporter" (and I use that term loosely) from Hollywood Junket who attended the pilot taping said that one of the Super Match questions was : "Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog. By watching the video, it seems that the rules (and set) are untouched, but there's dirty answers a-plenty.
[/quote]
I'm afraid to ask what the other answers could've been...
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189402\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 09:58 PM\']
I'm afraid to ask what the other answers could've been...
[/quote]
"The answer they gave most often will get you thirty days for public obscenity, the second-most popular answer will get you slapped by your mother, and the third-most popular response will make you the coolest 6th grader at the lunch table. You can call on any three stars to help..."
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'189401\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 09:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 06:13 PM\']
"Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog.[/quote]
Huh. I'd have gone with the one that rhymes with "hunt." :)
[/quote]
"She's a whiny little runt, isn't she?"
-Brian Griffin
/"I said 'runt.' "
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'189401\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 09:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 06:13 PM\']
"Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog.[/quote]
Huh. I'd have gone with the one that rhymes with "hunt." :)
[/quote]
"I'm looking for Mike. His last name is Hunt...Get it? Michael Hunt?"
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[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 08:13 PM\']
Take this as you will, but a "reporter" (and I use that term loosely) from Hollywood Junket who attended the pilot taping said that one of the Super Match questions was : "Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog.[/quote]
Well, that killed my interest before the show began.
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[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 09:13 PM\']
Take this as you will, but a "reporter" (and I use that term loosely) from Hollywood Junket who attended the pilot taping said that one of the Super Match questions was : "Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog. By watching the video, it seems that the rules (and set) are untouched, but there's dirty answers a-plenty.
[/quote]
I just watched that video. How one could get through it is amazing.
I would have matched, but that's not important. :)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189418\' date=\'Jul 1 2008, 08:54 AM\']
Well, that killed my interest before the show began.
[/quote]
Seconded.
I'm waiting for the first post here that says "Wow...why couldn't they copy the success of Match Game 98, and instead gave us this crap?"
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189409\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 11:39 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'189401\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 09:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 06:13 PM\']
"Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog.[/quote]
Huh. I'd have gone with the one that rhymes with "hunt." :)
[/quote]
"I'm looking for Mike. His last name is Hunt...Get it? Michael Hunt?"
[/quote]
I actually went to high school with a guy named Mike Hunt. He never heard the end of it.
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[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 06:13 PM\']
Take this as you will, but a "reporter" (and I use that term loosely) from Hollywood Junket who attended the pilot taping said that one of the Super Match questions was : "Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog.[/quote]
Game over. Go to black. Stop tape. Kill the lights. Your checks will be in the mail. Time to break out the reruns of Wally Bruner's What's My Line?
I KNEW this version was headed for the toilet, I just knew it. There is really no point in going forward with material like that.
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'189423\' date=\'Jul 1 2008, 12:22 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189409\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 11:39 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'189401\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 09:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189394\' date=\'Jun 30 2008, 06:13 PM\']
"Hilary Clinton is a ______" and the top answer was that term that's used for a female dog.[/quote]
Huh. I'd have gone with the one that rhymes with "hunt." :)
[/quote]
"I'm looking for Mike. His last name is Hunt...Get it? Michael Hunt?"
[/quote]
I actually went to high school with a guy named Mike Hunt. He never heard the end of it.
[/quote]
I'm sure.
(Don't know any myself, but I can imagine.)
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I just wanted to point out that, after watching the video, the lady (who seems kind of mixed up with some things) describing the game seemed to generalize the questions, because in addition to the Hilary question, she also noted a "Tom Cruise is a _____" question. I can only assume (not to mention hope) she's just generalizing some of the main game questions, because I can't see every Super Match being like that. I wouldn't get too worried... yet.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'189431\' date=\'Jul 1 2008, 02:38 PM\']
I just wanted to point out that, after watching the video, the lady (who seems kind of mixed up with some things) describing the game seemed to generalize the questions, because in addition to the Hilary question, she also noted a "Tom Cruise is a _____" question. I can only assume (not to mention hope) she's just generalizing some of the main game questions, because I can't see every Super Match being like that. I wouldn't get too worried... yet.
[/quote]
Kind of mixed up is an understatement. However, she clearly stated the top answer (regardless of how the question is worded) in the Super Match was B***H, that was one thing she was pretty sure of. She also mentions the other Audience Match being "____ & M" and stated "the first thing that came to my mind was S" and I believe she said that a celeb said that too.
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I would consider "___ & M" to be borderline--at least it has several interesting answers. (Okay, just three that I can think of.) But the other . . . yuck.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189442\' date=\'Jul 1 2008, 07:27 PM\']
I would consider "___ & M" to be borderline--at least it has several interesting answers. (Okay, just three that I can think of.) But the other . . . yuck.
[/quote]
I can think of three if you're counting S:
M
A (though I'm less sure of that one)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189462\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 09:01 AM\']
A (though I'm less sure of that one)[/quote]
A&M is a record label, as well as the term used to describe traditionally agricultural land-grant universities (notably Texas A&M). I'm old enough (and Southern enough) to remember L&M cigarettes, which I note after a little checking are still around. Still, neither are likely to jump to mind. Am I missing an obvious third?
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Rapper EM &M? :)
Questions that call for opinions (especially political ones) in Super Match aren't going to work. Hopefully they'll rectify that before the series starts.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'189463\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 08:42 AM\']
Am I missing an obvious third?
[/quote]
Don't know if it's an obvious third, but H&M (the clothing store) comes to mind as well.
ETA: Too many minds think alike.
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B&M...Brick and Mortar (as in physical, not internet, stores)
H&M...the clothing retailer from Sweden
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How about clothing store H&M?
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H&M was what popped into my mind first. It's a clothing store.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'189463\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 08:42 AM\']
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189462\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 09:01 AM\']
A (though I'm less sure of that one)[/quote]
A&M is a record label, as well as the term used to describe traditionally agricultural land-grant universities (notably Texas A&M). I'm old enough (and Southern enough) to remember L&M cigarettes, which I note after a little checking are still around. Still, neither are likely to jump to mind. Am I missing an obvious third?
[/quote]
I recall both A&M's; I just wasn't sure that either was familiar enough to make the top three. I remember L&M as well, but I'd think A&M is more likely to be one of the top three.
Someone who's still in New England, please refresh my memory: Is/Was there a brand of baked beans named B&M?
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Yes, there is a famous brand of baked beans called B&M. Brick-oven baked beans. They are very good.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189477\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 10:39 AM\']
Someone who's still in New England, please refresh my memory: Is/Was there a brand of baked beans named B&M?[/quote]
There is. Considering the two letters involved, the irony is delicious. :)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'189464\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 06:52 AM\']
Rapper EM &M? :)
Questions that call for opinions (especially political ones) in Super Match aren't going to work. Hopefully they'll rectify that before the series starts.
[/quote]
Super Match is where the contestant has a shot at the big money. You don't go for the funny; you play it straight. You stick with "Bread and (BLANK)". Besides, "Hillary Clinton is a (BLANK)" isn't funny or clever if you don't go for the provocative answer. Hillary Clinton is a woman, a politician, a lawyer -- there is nothing funny or clever about those. For that matter there is nothing funny about calling her a bitch or a c**t, either.
As for fixing it by the time it goes to series, if this is what they're doing for the pilot, I doubt they will suddenly "get it" by airtime.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189485\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 12:01 PM\']
For that matter there is nothing funny about calling her a bitch or a c**t, either.[/quote]
One wonders if they think they are playing to a right-wing / conservative / Obama-supporting audience with this pilot.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'189486\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 03:52 PM\']One wonders if they think they are playing to a right-wing / conservative / Obama-supporting audience with this pilot.[/quote]
"I believe that if you can't say anything nice about somebody....you must be talking about Hillary Clinton."
--Jeff Foxworthy
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Sorry I left everyone in suspense. I figured that the 3 letters one would see on a "____ & M" audience match would be S, M, and A. And I did mean to include "S&M" as an interesting answer that wouldn't turn me off the show anymore than someone saying "boob" in the 70s would.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189491\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 04:57 PM\']
Sorry I left everyone in suspense. I figured that the 3 letters one would see on a "____ & M" audience match would be S, M, and A. And I did mean to include "S&M" as an interesting answer that wouldn't turn me off the show anymore than someone saying "boob" in the 70s would.
[/quote]
Suddenly I just thought...
Considering the decade and the times, do you suppose that you could've slipped "S&M" in on the '70s show if you were a writer and really wanted to push the envelope?
(Why I'm thinking of this I don't know...)
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189519\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 03:34 PM\']
Suddenly I just thought...
Considering the decade and the times, do you suppose that you could've slipped "S&M" in on the '70s show if you were a writer and really wanted to push the envelope?
(Why I'm thinking of this I don't know...)
[/quote]
No. You would've gotten smacked by S&P. :)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'189520\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 03:50 PM\']No. You would've gotten smacked by S&P. :)[/quote]
That's assuming S&P knows S&M. There are legendary stories about people putting one by a censor just because a censor is clueless about the reference.
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I'm sure a very sharp producer and associate producer would have caught it long before S&P got involved.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189545\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:47 PM\']
I'm sure a very sharp producer and associate producer would have caught it long before S&P got involved.
[/quote]
That's true, but I'm sure they were bound by orders from an authority figure who would have whipped them into obeying the rules of the game. Submission of something like that would have batted a lash or two.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'189553\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 03:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189545\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:47 PM\']
I'm sure a very sharp producer and associate producer would have caught it long before S&P got involved.
[/quote]
That's true, but I'm sure they were bound by orders from an authority figure who would have whipped them into obeying the rules of the game. Submission of something like that would have batted a lash or two.
[/quote]
Old man Goodson would be the only authority figure they'd have to worry about, and Ira and Bobby didn't need him to tell them how to pick material. I don't see where the rules of the game were being violated.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'189553\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189545\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:47 PM\']
I'm sure a very sharp producer and associate producer would have caught it long before S&P got involved.
[/quote]
That's true, but I'm sure they were bound by orders from an authority figure who would have whipped them into obeying the rules of the game. Submission of something like that would have batted a lash or two.
[/quote]
Nothin' like a good baseball joke.
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Thanks for appreciating the subtlety. :)
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If I'm remembering correctly:
There was a Super Match that read simply "T ____ A." Two answers given were "W" and "V." The celebrity who gave the third, "and," was apprehensive about his answer and asked if he were allowed to give it. Gene didn't have the slightest clue why the answer would be inappropriate.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189519\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 03:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189491\' date=\'Jul 2 2008, 04:57 PM\']
Sorry I left everyone in suspense. I figured that the 3 letters one would see on a "____ & M" audience match would be S, M, and A. And I did mean to include "S&M" as an interesting answer that wouldn't turn me off the show anymore than someone saying "boob" in the 70s would.
[/quote]
Suddenly I just thought...
Considering the decade and the times, do you suppose that you could've slipped "S&M" in on the '70s show if you were a writer and really wanted to push the envelope?
[/quote]
I know for a fact that on an ep of Match Game PM, McLean Stevenson suggested "and" as an Audience Match response to "T _ A". It wasn't one of the three, but the suggestion was by no means censored. So if T & A could work, why not S & M?
Just my thoughts.