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Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 16, 2008, 09:53:32 PM
Has anyone know about The Jay Wolpert version of Trivial Pursuit, hosted by Steve Morris and Linda Marr?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: parliboy on June 17, 2008, 11:39:03 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188320\' date=\'Jun 16 2008, 08:53 PM\'] Has anyone know about The Jay Wolpert version of Trivial Pursuit, hosted by Steve Morris and Linda Marr? [/quote]

Yes, someone knows about it.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: tvwxman on June 17, 2008, 12:10:46 PM
[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'188339\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:39 AM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188320\' date=\'Jun 16 2008, 08:53 PM\'] Has anyone know about The Jay Wolpert version of Trivial Pursuit, hosted by Steve Morris and Linda Marr? [/quote]

Yes, someone knows about it.
[/quote]
Yes, but the question wasn't does 'someone' know about it, but rather, 'has' anyone know about it.

To which, the answer is "Liver Spots".
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 17, 2008, 09:56:55 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'188342\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:10 AM\']
[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'188339\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:39 AM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188320\' date=\'Jun 16 2008, 08:53 PM\'] Has anyone know about The Jay Wolpert version of Trivial Pursuit, hosted by Steve Morris and Linda Marr? [/quote]

Yes, someone knows about it.
[/quote]
Yes, but the question wasn't does 'someone' know about it, but rather, 'has' anyone know about it.

To which, the answer is "Liver Spots".
[/quote]

"Liver Spots"? But what about rules for the Jay Wolpert Trivial Pursuit version?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: MikeK on June 17, 2008, 10:32:44 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188386\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 09:56 PM\']"Liver Spots"? But what about rules for the Jay Wolpert Trivial Pursuit version?[/quote]
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1671/no...hitagainep0.jpg (http://\"http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1671/notthisshitagainep0.jpg\")
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on June 17, 2008, 10:42:38 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188386\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 08:56 PM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'188342\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:10 AM\']
[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'188339\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:39 AM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188320\' date=\'Jun 16 2008, 08:53 PM\'] Has anyone know about The Jay Wolpert version of Trivial Pursuit, hosted by Steve Morris and Linda Marr? [/quote]

Yes, someone knows about it.
[/quote]
Yes, but the question wasn't does 'someone' know about it, but rather, 'has' anyone know about it.

To which, the answer is "Liver Spots".
[/quote]

"Liver Spots"? But what about rules for the Jay Wolpert Trivial Pursuit version?
[/quote]

I'll do you one better, Mike.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg275/T...ead_banging.gif (http://\"http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg275/TheKen08/Misc%20Pics/head_banging.gif\")
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: JasonA1 on June 17, 2008, 11:18:44 PM
Not to ruin the fun, but just in case somebody wants the information - here are the rules (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2205&st=14&p=18449&#entry18449\") courtesy of a SplitSecond post.

-Jason
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: CarbonCpy on June 17, 2008, 11:57:57 PM
http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg\")

What, too much?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: tvwxman on June 18, 2008, 12:18:01 AM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'188394\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:18 PM\']
Not to ruin the fun, but just in case somebody wants the information - here are the rules (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2205&st=14&p=18449&#entry18449\") courtesy of a SplitSecond post.

-Jason
[/quote]
I can't believe it's been 5 years since the first JRJ skeptics came about.

But i'll ask nonetheless, is JRJ associated with the upcoming TP:AG?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: MikeK on June 18, 2008, 12:52:24 PM
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'188396\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:57 PM\']http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg\")[/quote]
You win at everything.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on June 18, 2008, 01:53:55 PM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'188416\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 09:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'188396\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:57 PM\']http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg\")[/quote]
You win at everything.
[/quote]
OMG. That is indeed ten pounds of win in a five-pound bag, right there.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: BrandonFG on June 18, 2008, 03:21:43 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188423\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 01:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'188416\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 09:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'188396\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:57 PM\']http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg\")[/quote]
You win at everything.
[/quote]
OMG. That is indeed ten pounds of win in a five-pound bag, right there.
[/quote]
Concur.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fos.../untitled-1.jpg (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fostergray82/untitled-1.jpg\")
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 18, 2008, 04:05:16 PM
Am I willing to see pics of the Trivial Pursuit pilot with Steve Morris?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Tony Peters on June 18, 2008, 10:12:16 PM
If I could do this myself, I would; I'd like to see an altered New York "Pyramid screencap of a winning team, complete with "THE WINNERS" caption, but changed to read "TEH WINNARS".
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: BrandonFG on June 18, 2008, 10:34:55 PM
Done. (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fostergray82/untitled-2.jpg\") :-)

/Still hate Arial though
//The bastard stepchild of Helvetica
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Adam Nedeff on June 18, 2008, 10:37:07 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188432\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 04:05 PM\']
Am I willing to see pics of the Trivial Pursuit pilot with Steve Morris?
[/quote]
Only YOU know for sure. Be strong.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Clay Zambo on June 18, 2008, 10:45:58 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'188429\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 03:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188423\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 01:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'188416\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 09:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'188396\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:57 PM\']http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg\")[/quote]
You win at everything.
[/quote]
OMG. That is indeed ten pounds of win in a five-pound bag, right there.
[/quote]
Concur.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fos.../untitled-1.jpg (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fostergray82/untitled-1.jpg\")
[/quote]

Yes indeed.  CarbonCpy wins at things he hasn't even entered.

/the girl in the MDP screencap?  Apparently is an alumna of my college.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Sodboy13 on June 18, 2008, 11:39:44 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188432\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 03:05 PM\']
Am I willing to see pics of the Trivial Pursuit pilot with Steve Morris?
[/quote]

Am I willing to find out your primary language?  'Cause it sure as hell isn't English.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on June 19, 2008, 12:36:15 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'188429\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 03:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188423\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 01:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'188416\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 09:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'188396\' date=\'Jun 17 2008, 11:57 PM\']http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/ultramegafacepalm.jpg\")[/quote]
You win at everything.
[/quote]
OMG. That is indeed ten pounds of win in a five-pound bag, right there.
[/quote]
Concur.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fos.../untitled-1.jpg (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fostergray82/untitled-1.jpg\")
[/quote]

All these pictures...what's next, a photo album of failure?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Sodboy13 on June 19, 2008, 12:51:57 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'188454\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 11:36 PM\']
All these pictures...what's next, a photo album of failure?
[/quote]

If you insist... (http://\"http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/Sodboy13/failalbum.gif\")
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on June 19, 2008, 01:07:43 AM
[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'188457\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 11:51 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'188454\' date=\'Jun 18 2008, 11:36 PM\']
All these pictures...what's next, a photo album of failure?
[/quote]

If you insist... (http://\"http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/Sodboy13/failalbum.gif\")
[/quote]

I guess the old adage, "ask and ye shall receive", applies...

Worthy effort...was thinking something else, though. But appreciated.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on June 19, 2008, 01:21:26 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the OP is PTH4FUN?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 19, 2008, 12:09:47 PM
But what about the rules of Fortune Hunters?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on June 19, 2008, 02:02:58 PM
Tell me this guy's moderated. I beg of you. If he isn't he damned well should be.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: CarbonCpy on June 19, 2008, 02:13:40 PM
Also, be on the lookout for our great new Picard flavor (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/ultramegapicard.jpg\")!  Two great tastes for your moments of FAIL.


(from the makers of OM NOM NOMs and GTFO, an internets family company)
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: BrandonFG on June 19, 2008, 02:14:13 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188464\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 12:09 PM\']
But what about the rules of Fortune Hunters?
[/quote]
Contestants hunt for a fortune in cash and prizes, however, they must watch out for the Hitman, who, at a moment's notice, comes out and whacks the opponent in the kneecap with a crowbar. However, the hitman can be avoided by wearing a pink frilly tutu and saying "John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt" five times fast in less than seven seconds. There's a great clip on Youtube where the contestant accidentally says "Jingleheimer Shit", and gets hit. I lol'd because it's true.

[quote name=\''CarbonCpy'\']
Also, be on the lookout for our great new Picard flavor! Two great tastes for your moments of FAIL.


(from the makers of OM NOM NOMs and GTFO, an internets family company)
[/quote]

This. (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fostergray82/untitled-2.jpg\")
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 19, 2008, 02:33:17 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188464\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 12:09 PM\']
But what about the rules of Fortune Hunters?
[/quote]
Someone runs around a black market supermarket to find $2,000,000.  Find the cash, you win.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: tvwxman on June 19, 2008, 02:37:30 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'188471\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 02:14 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'188464\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 12:09 PM\']
But what about the rules of Fortune Hunters?
[/quote]
Contestants hunt for a fortune in cash and prizes, however, they must watch out for the Hitman, who, at a moment's notice, comes out and whacks the opponent in the kneecap with a crowbar. However, the hitman can be avoided by wearing a pink frilly tutu and saying "John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt" five times fast in less than seven seconds. There's a great clip on Youtube where the contestant accidentally says "Jingleheimer Shit", and gets hit. I lol'd because it's true.
[/quote]
Sounds better than "Set For Life".
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: CarbonCpy on June 19, 2008, 03:03:44 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'188471\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 02:14 PM\']
This. (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fostergray82/untitled-2.jpg\")
[/quote]

I hope you don't mind, but I felt there was something missing (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/WINNARS.gif\").
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on June 19, 2008, 03:08:02 PM
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'188475\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 02:03 PM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'188471\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 02:14 PM\']
This. (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fostergray82/untitled-2.jpg\")
[/quote]

I hope you don't mind, but I felt there was something missing (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/WINNARS.gif\").
[/quote]

Even better.

I applaud.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: BrandonFG on June 19, 2008, 03:17:30 PM
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'188475\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 03:03 PM\']
I hope you don't mind, but I felt there was something missing (http://\"http://carboncpy.com/WINNARS.gif\").
[/quote]
I bow to your superiority.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: J.R. on June 19, 2008, 03:27:10 PM
That does it, I'm officially retiring from the macro business. I can't compete with CarbonCpy's awesum skillz.

I am curious though, how to you create that montage effect?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Matt Ottinger on June 19, 2008, 03:37:31 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188468\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 02:02 PM\']
Tell me this guy's moderated. I beg of you. If he isn't he damned well should be.[/quote]
Of course he is.  But if I don't let his stuff through, I don't get to see you guys' arts & crafts projects.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on June 19, 2008, 03:52:18 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'188479\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 12:37 PM\']
Of course he is.  But if I don't let his stuff through, I don't get to see you guys' arts & crafts projects[/quote]
Fair enough. Just remember what you *do* see along with said projects. :)
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: CarbonCpy on June 19, 2008, 04:04:59 PM
[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'188478\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 03:27 PM\']
That does it, I'm officially retiring from the macro business. I can't compete with CarbonCpy's awesum skillz.

I am curious though, how to you create that montage effect?
[/quote]

Now, now, I'm not that talented.  The facepalm photomosiacs were found... elsewhere... on the internet -- I'd say they were made with something like AndreaMosaic (http://\"http://www.andreaplanet.com/andreamosaic/\").  I say, because I haven't had a chance to try it out, and that was the first result in google.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on June 19, 2008, 04:07:53 PM
Right, my guess is that you provide the small pics, the big pic that you want in the background, and the app mucks with brightness and chroma settings on the individual pics to create the desired effect.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Adam Nedeff on June 19, 2008, 06:33:34 PM
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'188459\' date=\'Jun 19 2008, 01:21 AM\']
Am I the only one who thinks the OP is PTH4FUN?
[/quote]
There's only one way to find out...

I haven't posted anything on YouTube in 24 hours. Tell me how that makes you feel.

/Answer me.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 21, 2008, 11:57:18 AM
Yes I am. Any more pilots?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on June 21, 2008, 03:26:46 PM
Which begs the question (and I know I'm going to regret asking it): what is the significance of this guy being PTH4FUN?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on June 21, 2008, 05:05:47 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188608\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 02:26 PM\']
Which begs the question (and I know I'm going to regret asking it): what is the significance of this guy being PTH4FUN?
[/quote]

http://youtube.com/PTH4FUN (http://\"http://youtube.com/PTH4FUN\")

This is PTH4FUN.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 21, 2008, 07:46:06 PM
Um... They're not sure.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on June 21, 2008, 09:20:18 PM
Oh, this is the numbskull who harasses anyone who posts a game-show-related video to post moar and moar?

Yep. This is gonna be good.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: comicus on June 21, 2008, 10:53:17 PM
You want pilots?  Here...

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/images/pilot.jpg (http://\"http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/images/pilot.jpg\")

http://www.american-appliance.com/images/i...ngestpilot2.jpg (http://\"http://www.american-appliance.com/images/image_data/gasrangestpilot2.jpg\")

http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/sport...uto-bouton1.JPG (http://\"http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/sports/baseball/images/pilots/auto-bouton1.JPG\")

http://www.drywalldynamicsinc.com/Pilot%20...el%20Center.JPG (http://\"http://www.drywalldynamicsinc.com/Pilot%20Travel%20Center.JPG\")

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Compone..._vmed.widec.jpg (http://\"http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060321/060321_PalmPilot_vmed.widec.jpg\")

http://www.alexgitlin.com/pilot7.jpg (http://\"http://www.alexgitlin.com/pilot7.jpg\")

Enough pilots for you, friendo?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 21, 2008, 10:57:16 PM
No, not the different piolts-pilots. Just pics of real game show pilots.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Adam Nedeff on June 22, 2008, 12:30:25 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'188636\' date=\'Jun 21 2008, 09:20 PM\']
Oh, this is the numbskull who harasses anyone who posts a game-show-related video to post moar and moar?
[/quote]
Well...ONE of them, yes.

/"Block User" is your friend.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on December 27, 2008, 03:44:14 PM
Anyknow about The Puzzle Game?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: pacdude on December 27, 2008, 09:13:12 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204853\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 03:44 PM\']Anyknow about The Puzzle Game?[/quote]

Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:

http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: tyshaun1 on December 27, 2008, 09:17:50 PM
[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'204880\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 09:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204853\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 03:44 PM\']Anyknow about The Puzzle Game?[/quote]

Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:

http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")
[/quote]
LMAO.......Post of the years.

Tyshaun
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on December 27, 2008, 09:20:11 PM
[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'204880\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 06:13 PM\']
Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:

http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")[/quote]
Bravo. Bravissimo.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Mr. Matté on December 27, 2008, 10:11:07 PM
[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'204880\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 09:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204853\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 03:44 PM\']Anyknow about The Puzzle Game?[/quote]
Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:

http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")
[/quote]
Contestant: Is it Fsnow? (buzz)

/Another gold star from me
//PTH4Fun Fan4Sure: still at 0 vids..!
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Strikerz04 on December 28, 2008, 02:49:44 AM
[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'204880\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 08:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204853\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 03:44 PM\']Anyknow about The Puzzle Game?[/quote]

Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:

http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")
[/quote]

Hilarious.
Approves (http://\"http://images.quickblogcast.com/48616-44164/800KrustySealOfApproval2007.jpg\")



/First personal approval
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on December 28, 2008, 03:18:55 PM
No. Actually, The pilot was hosted by Jim Lange in the late 1980s. But what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: TLEberle on December 28, 2008, 03:57:47 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204940\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 12:18 PM\']No. Actually, The pilot was hosted by Jim Lange in the late 1980s. But what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?[/quote]Post some videos and then we'll tell you.

Come on! Get on it! Upload that stuff to Youtube! No time to waste.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: pacdude on December 28, 2008, 06:12:56 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204940\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 03:18 PM\']No. Actually, The pilot was hosted by Jim Lange in the late 1980s. But what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?[/quote]

I have a somewhat curious question: Do you realize that you've been labeled by some as an annoying person and thus won't be getting any help unless you contribute to the community?

I'm not trying to be snarky. I just want to know why it seems like he doesn't get it.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: dale_grass on December 28, 2008, 06:33:45 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204940\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 04:18 PM\']
No. Actually, The pilot was hosted by Jim Lange in the late 1980s. But what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?
[/quote]
That's OK, Fan4Sure. Some people on this board would rather ridicule others and engage in degrading posts than help, mocking the original poster.  Here's the shake-down of the original Puzzle Game, as told to me by Jim Lange's neighbor from Yorba Linda (oddly enough, named Linda Yorba):

Three contestants were given giant jigsaw puzzle pieces.  Jim would ask questions, and whoever answered correctly got to put a piece in (hopefully the correct) place.  The two people who put the most of their puzzle together by the end of round one moved on.  Round two consisted of the two remaining contestants sitting in a mock living room on leather chairs, doing the New York Times crossword puzzle.  Whoever filled in the most of the grid by the end of this round went on to the bonus round.  Here, Jim asked the contestant five questions that were previously given to a sample of 100 people.  The contestant was awarded points based on how many of the 100 people gave the same answer.  Then the player's pre-selected partner was brought out and asked the same five questions.  If they got more than 200 points, they won $5000.  Sadly, the pilot was never approved, due to the similarity of the bonus round to Family Feud, and the boringness of the rest of the game.

If you can, get a picture or screen grab from the pilot.  Jim shaved his head in protest Jimmy Carter's grain embargo against the USSR.

\At least, that's what Linda Yorba told me.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: TimK2003 on December 28, 2008, 07:17:40 PM
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'204956\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 07:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204940\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 04:18 PM\']
No. Actually, The pilot was hosted by Jim Lange in the late 1980s. But what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?
[/quote]
That's OK, Fan4Sure. Some people on this board would rather ridicule others and engage in degrading posts than help, mocking the original poster.  Here's the shake-down of the original Puzzle Game, as told to me by Jim Lange's neighbor from Yorba Linda (oddly enough, named Linda Yorba):
[/quote]


Is that the same Linda Yorba who's originally from Athens?  I had been neighbors with her brother, Jimmy Yorba about 30-some years ago!!!  

Coincidentally, Jimmy once told me that he was the favorite to host the pilot of The Puzzle Game, but despite being the longshot, Mr. Lange got the gig instead.  Jimmy Yorba replied, "What were the odds on that happening?"

(Jimmy later went on to greater fame after dropping Yorba from his name...He became known on TV simply as "Jimmy The Greek").
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: DoorNumberFour on December 28, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204940\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 03:18 PM\']
No. Actually, The pilot was hosted by Jim Lange in the late 1980s. But what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?
[/quote]
We're not telling you.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on December 28, 2008, 11:02:53 PM
What about... Star Play hosted by Tom Kennedy?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on December 28, 2008, 11:15:44 PM
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'204956\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 06:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204940\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 04:18 PM\']
No. Actually, The pilot was hosted by Jim Lange in the late 1980s. But what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?
[/quote]
That's OK, Fan4Sure. Some people on this board would rather ridicule others and engage in degrading posts than help, mocking the original poster.  Here's the shake-down of the original Puzzle Game, as told to me by Jim Lange's neighbor from Yorba Linda (oddly enough, named Linda Yorba):

Three contestants were given giant jigsaw puzzle pieces.  Jim would ask questions, and whoever answered correctly got to put a piece in (hopefully the correct) place.  The two people who put the most of their puzzle together by the end of round one moved on.  Round two consisted of the two remaining contestants sitting in a mock living room on leather chairs, doing the New York Times crossword puzzle.  Whoever filled in the most of the grid by the end of this round went on to the bonus round.  Here, Jim asked the contestant five questions that were previously given to a sample of 100 people.  The contestant was awarded points based on how many of the 100 people gave the same answer.  Then the player's pre-selected partner was brought out and asked the same five questions.  If they got more than 200 points, they won $5000.  Sadly, the pilot was never approved, due to the similarity of the bonus round to Family Feud, and the boringness of the rest of the game.

If you can, get a picture or screen grab from the pilot.  Jim shaved his head in protest Jimmy Carter's grain embargo against the USSR.

\At least, that's what Linda Yorba told me.
[/quote]





Actually, that should have been a remake of catch phrase.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 28, 2008, 11:40:25 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204982\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 11:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'204956\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 06:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204940\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 04:18 PM\']
No. Actually, The pilot was hosted by Jim Lange in the late 1980s. But what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?
[/quote]
That's OK, Fan4Sure. Some people on this board would rather ridicule others and engage in degrading posts than help, mocking the original poster.  Here's the shake-down of the original Puzzle Game, as told to me by Jim Lange's neighbor from Yorba Linda (oddly enough, named Linda Yorba)[/quote]
Actually, that should have been a remake of catch phrase.[/quote]
If you already know that The Puzzle Game was a remake of Catch Phrase (which is correct, BTW), why do you ask the question in the first place?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: BrandonFG on December 28, 2008, 11:41:52 PM
[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'204880\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 09:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204853\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 03:44 PM\']Anyknow about The Puzzle Game?[/quote]

Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:

http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")
[/quote]
Took me forever to catch on, but F'n brilliant. Well played!
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 28, 2008, 11:45:15 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204981\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 11:02 PM\']What about... Star Play hosted by Tom Kennedy?[/quote]
I guess it's conceivable that someone obsessed with game show pilots might not be familiar with Mike Burger's Game Show Pilot Light (http://\"http://usgameshows.net\").  If you're not, then here's the page for Star Play (http://\"http://usgameshows.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Pilot_Star_Play\").  If you are, and you're just posting the names of pilots to amuse yourself, you should know that you've reached my fun limit, and you shouldn't expect any more of your questions to show up.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: chad1m on December 29, 2008, 12:07:20 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'204984\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 11:41 PM\']
[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'204880\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 09:13 PM\']
Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:
http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")
[/quote]Took me forever to catch on, but F'n brilliant. Well played![/quote]Lol. I'll admit that I'm still not there.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on December 29, 2008, 01:08:55 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'204985\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 08:45 PM\']
If you are, and you're just posting the names of pilots to amuse yourself, you should know that you've reached my fun limit, and you shouldn't expect any more of your questions to show up.[/quote]
<clap clap clap clap clap>
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: aaron sica on December 29, 2008, 08:59:43 AM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'204986\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 12:07 AM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'204984\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 11:41 PM\']
[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'204880\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 09:13 PM\']
Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:
http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")
[/quote]Took me forever to catch on, but F'n brilliant. Well played![/quote]Lol. I'll admit that I'm still not there.
[/quote]

I just caught on now. Brilliant!

Chad, let me give you a couple hints as to the second word:

____ TO THE CHIEF
____ TO THE REDSKINS
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 29, 2008, 01:20:42 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'204986\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 12:07 AM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'204984\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 11:41 PM\']
[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'204880\' date=\'Dec 27 2008, 09:13 PM\']
Yeah, it was a show like Concentration. Here's a screenshot from the pilot:
http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png (http://\"http://www.pacdudegames.com/puzzlegame.png\")
[/quote]Took me forever to catch on, but F'n brilliant. Well played![/quote]Lol. I'll admit that I'm still not there.
[/quote]
Lions.  Cowboys.  Football.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Marc412 on December 29, 2008, 02:18:51 PM
Succeed...  Opposite.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: chad1m on December 29, 2008, 02:53:20 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'204997\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 08:59 AM\']Chad, let me give you a couple hints as to the second word,[/quote]Yep, I'm there now. My biggest fault was thinking it was rain. ;)
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: aaron sica on December 29, 2008, 02:54:14 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'205011\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 02:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'204997\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 08:59 AM\']Chad, let me give you a couple hints as to the second word,[/quote]Yep, I'm there now. My biggest fault was thinking it was rain. ;)
[/quote]

Seconded. "Frain?" went through my mind last night.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: BrandonFG on December 29, 2008, 02:59:46 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'205005\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 01:20 PM\']
Lions.  Cowboys.  Football.
[/quote]
Hey hey hey hey! What is going on here? (http://\"http://membres.lycos.fr/sironimo/belding01.jpg\")

/I do not approve
//I do agree though
///Sigh
////I've offered my thoughts on this season on enough blogs
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Clay Zambo on December 29, 2008, 06:44:57 PM
[quote name=\'Marc412\' post=\'205010\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 02:18 PM\']
Succeed...  Opposite.
[/quote]

BZZZZ.  Saying "opposite" is an illegal clue.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on December 29, 2008, 06:54:21 PM
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'205018\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 03:44 PM\']
BZZZZ.  Saying "opposite" is an illegal clue.[/quote]
Further, if you're any kind of Password player at all, you should never need to. :)
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: chad1m on December 29, 2008, 06:57:10 PM
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'205018\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 06:44 PM\']BZZZZ.  Saying "opposite" is an illegal clue.[/quote]Well, not on MDP. Though, sometimes saying opposite doesn't even work, even when you've already inflected. ;)
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 29, 2008, 07:00:47 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'205019\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 06:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'205018\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 03:44 PM\']
BZZZZ.  Saying "opposite" is an illegal clue.[/quote]
Further, if you're any kind of Password player at all, you should never need to. :)
[/quote]
Your partner is one of a)Rachel Ray, b)William Shatner, c)Adam Corolla.

/Corolla might have just gotten outpaced by White
//Nah, it was bad.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on December 29, 2008, 07:03:29 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'205021\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 04:00 PM\']
Your partner is one of a)Rachel Ray, b)William Shatner, c)Adam Corolla.[/quote]
Fine, I'll qualify that: "If the celebrity bookers are doing their jobs, you shouldn't need to."
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Clay Zambo on December 30, 2008, 11:13:05 AM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'205020\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 06:57 PM\']
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'205018\' date=\'Dec 29 2008, 06:44 PM\']BZZZZ.  Saying "opposite" is an illegal clue.[/quote]Well, not on MDP. Though, sometimes saying opposite doesn't even work, even when you've already inflected. ;)
[/quote]

My bad.  I mis-remembered the Buzzerblog posting.  It's "Rhyme" you can't say.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Don Howard on December 30, 2008, 09:11:14 PM
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'204956\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 06:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'204940\' date=\'Dec 28 2008, 04:18 PM\']
what are the rules for The Puzzle Game?
[/quote]
Three contestants were given giant jigsaw puzzle pieces...(most excellent recap of the rules edited)...Jim shaved his head in protest Jimmy Carter's grain embargo against the USSR.
[/quote]
You're telling me this work of genius didn't sell in favor of....of.....The Challengers? What drugs were being syringed at NATPE that year?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on January 04, 2009, 11:29:03 AM
Why did they edited my postings?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Sodboy13 on January 04, 2009, 01:00:14 PM
Pointless your words on screen is.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on January 04, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'205446\' date=\'Jan 4 2009, 01:00 PM\']
Pointless your words on screen is.
[/quote]

Approves your post, he does. (http://\"http://blogs.fayobserver.com/faytoz/files/2008/08/yoda.jpg\")

Quote
Why did they edited my postings?

It was not came's. He borrowed mine.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Fan4Sure on January 05, 2009, 05:09:41 PM
Do each player staked at $250, When each player take turns purchasing questions means earning money on Trivial Pursuit Pilot Jay Wolpert version?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: chad1m on January 06, 2009, 09:51:32 AM
srsly?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Sodboy13 on January 06, 2009, 11:07:02 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'205554\' date=\'Jan 5 2009, 04:09 PM\']
Do each player staked at $250, When each player take turns purchasing questions means earning money on Trivial Pursuit Pilot Jay Wolpert version?
[/quote]

Do third rail you take flying leap onto Bzzzzz! pilot?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 06, 2009, 11:27:29 AM
Thought have u of user name changing to Ban4Sure?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on January 06, 2009, 11:48:23 AM
Harming mattress mixes frothy turkey hammer, but for sure not to me!
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Mr. Matté on January 06, 2009, 12:03:32 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'205554\' date=\'Jan 5 2009, 05:09 PM\']
Do each player staked at $250, When each player take turns purchasing questions means earning money on Trivial Pursuit Pilot Jay Wolpert version?
[/quote]
Approves. (http://\"http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6954/misssccm3.jpg\")

/Still a reference, people!
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on January 06, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'205554\' date=\'Jan 5 2009, 05:09 PM\']
Do each player staked at $250, When each player take turns purchasing questions means earning money on Trivial Pursuit Pilot Jay Wolpert version?
[/quote]

Stopping mangling language English perhaps considering you?

/for somebody to saying need.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: CarbonCpy on January 06, 2009, 02:16:06 PM
Huh.  I didn't think they actually made a pilot for Markov Chain Reaction.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Joe Mello on January 06, 2009, 02:36:41 PM
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'205623\' date=\'Jan 6 2009, 02:16 PM\']Huh.  I didn't think they actually made a pilot for Markov Chain Reaction.[/quote]
But that was in the past, so does it really matter?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: BrandonFG on January 06, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'205554\' date=\'Jan 5 2009, 05:09 PM\']
Do each player staked at $250, When each player take turns purchasing questions means earning money on Trivial Pursuit Pilot Jay Wolpert version?
[/quote]
Stop. Please, just stop.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: dale_grass on January 06, 2009, 03:17:26 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'205629\' date=\'Jan 6 2009, 04:07 PM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'205554\' date=\'Jan 5 2009, 05:09 PM\']
Do each player staked at $250, When each player take turns purchasing questions means earning money on Trivial Pursuit Pilot Jay Wolpert version?
[/quote]
Stop. Please, just stop.
[/quote]
Shame on you for discouraging the guy, who's surely a fan, from posting!  Some people on this board (certainly not myself, mind you) might be amused reading what he types.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Don Howard on January 06, 2009, 03:48:43 PM
Plus, it gives us all the chance to play Fargo North, Decoder.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Strikerz04 on January 07, 2009, 01:27:45 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'205554\' date=\'Jan 5 2009, 04:09 PM\']
Do each player staked at $250, When each player take turns purchasing questions means earning money on Trivial Pursuit Pilot Jay Wolpert version?
[/quote]

They dance make question response to have sexy time beforehand.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on January 07, 2009, 01:37:42 AM
[quote name=\'Strikerz04\' post=\'205672\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 01:27 AM\']
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'205554\' date=\'Jan 5 2009, 04:09 PM\']
Do each player staked at $250, When each player take turns purchasing questions means earning money on Trivial Pursuit Pilot Jay Wolpert version?
[/quote]

They dance make question response to have sexy time beforehand.
[/quote]

It is nice... (http://\"http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/05/borat_narrowweb__300x400,0.jpg\")
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: CarbonCpy on January 07, 2009, 01:53:30 AM
"No no you see the rules of language are purely arbitrary stodgy ivory-tower crap we doesn't have to worried aboard because everytime history on you rebendible sausage mountain."
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: dale_grass on January 07, 2009, 02:13:49 AM
OK, guys, enough ribbing the poor guy.  Time for a serious answer.  Fan4Sure, I have over 2,783 pictures from game show pilots (2,784 to be exact).  Here's one from the $25,000 Pyramid pilot, which was shown briefly in a commercial for GSN in 2002.  The commercial aired between 1 AM and 4 AM for only a week, due to an uncensored shot of Jaye P. Morgan's breasts from The Gong Show.  Rather than simply edit them out, the network pulled the spot, which I thought was odd.  Also odd, one of the winner's circle categories deals with game show pilots!  Here you go.  If you need any more screen grabs/ticket scannings/promotional pictures, don't be afraid to ask.  I look forward to your replies. ;)

$25,000 Pyramid Pilot (http://\"http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/dale_grass/pyramidpilot.jpg\")
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on January 07, 2009, 02:31:23 AM
Nothing good can come of that...
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: dazztardly on January 07, 2009, 03:02:11 AM
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'205676\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 03:13 AM\']
OK, guys, enough ribbing the poor guy.  Time for a serious answer.  Fan4Sure, I have over 2,783 pictures from game show pilots (2,784 to be exact).  Here's one from the $25,000 Pyramid pilot, which was shown briefly in a commercial for GSN in 2002.  The commercial aired between 1 AM and 4 AM for only a week, due to an uncensored shot of Jaye P. Morgan's breasts from The Gong Show.  Rather than simply edit them out, the network pulled the spot, which I thought was odd.  Also odd, one of the winner's circle categories deals with game show pilots!  Here you go.  If you need any more screen grabs/ticket scannings/promotional pictures, don't be afraid to ask.  I look forward to your replies. ;)

$25,000 Pyramid Pilot (http://\"http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/dale_grass/pyramidpilot.jpg\")
[/quote]

I have to agree with dale_grass, enough already.
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: J.R. on January 07, 2009, 03:20:39 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'205677\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 01:31 AM\']Nothing good can come of that...[/quote]
[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'205678\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 02:02 AM\']I have to agree with dale_grass, enough already.[/quote]
I think your Sarcasm Detectors need fresh batteries. You two do realize that dale was actually continuing the ribbing? :)

/And a very good rib. I lol'd hard
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: PYLdude on January 07, 2009, 03:03:39 PM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'205679\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 03:20 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'205677\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 01:31 AM\']Nothing good can come of that...[/quote]
[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'205678\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 02:02 AM\']I have to agree with dale_grass, enough already.[/quote]
I think your Sarcasm Detectors need fresh batteries. You two do realize that dale was actually continuing the ribbing? :)

/And a very good rib. I lol'd hard
[/quote]

I knew Dale was continuing the ribbing. The last part of the rib concerned me, though.

Berger, on the other hand, I can't speak for. (Edited)
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on January 07, 2009, 03:37:31 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'205692\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 03:03 PM\']Berger, on the other hand...[/quote]Yes, most of us know you don't like Dan.  Why even bother starting it up again?
Title: Game Show Pilots
Post by: clemon79 on January 07, 2009, 03:39:18 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'205693\' date=\'Jan 7 2009, 12:37 PM\']
Yes, most of us know you don't like Dan.  Why even bother starting it up again?[/quote]
Actually, I had no idea until you said this. But now that you've opened the box, let the pissing match begin!