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Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: JepMasta on February 28, 2008, 02:23:05 PM
Hey guys, call me dumb, but I have always wondered something.  I used to love watching the $25,000 Pyramid and the $100K version, and I have always wanted to know, how did the trilons work?  Did they have a stagehand behind them turning them?

Just curious

Brian~
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: clemon79 on February 28, 2008, 02:33:21 PM
[quote name=\'JepMasta\' post=\'179279\' date=\'Feb 28 2008, 11:23 AM\']
Hey guys, call me dumb, but I have always wondered something.  I used to love watching the $25,000 Pyramid and the $100K version, and I have always wanted to know, how did the trilons work?  Did they have a stagehand behind them turning them?[/quote]
Yes. Two of them. As we have mentioned here numerous times.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: tvrandywest on February 28, 2008, 02:46:57 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179282\' date=\'Feb 28 2008, 11:33 AM\']
[quote name=\'JepMasta\' post=\'179279\' date=\'Feb 28 2008, 11:23 AM\']
Hey guys, call me dumb, but I have always wondered something.  I used to love watching the $25,000 Pyramid and the $100K version, and I have always wanted to know, how did the trilons work?  Did they have a stagehand behind them turning them?[/quote]
Yes. Two of them. As we have mentioned here numerous times.
[/quote]
Yes, with a stage manager to cue the two stagehands. Search the previous posts on this, I remember it was described in glorious detail.

Randy
tvrandywest.com
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on March 02, 2008, 02:38:22 PM
I know this is minutiae that no one would probably even remember (or care to remember), but I still wonder just what the setup was--mainly A) what means of reaching all the trilons rapidly they had, and B) how they coordinated the two stagehands. Did they rotate back and forth, or was one stagehand always the "current category" person? It keeps me up at night.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: tvrandywest on March 02, 2008, 02:56:45 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'179605\' date=\'Mar 2 2008, 11:38 AM\']
I know this is minutiae that no one would probably even remember (or care to remember), but I still wonder just what the setup was--mainly A) what means of reaching all the trilons rapidly they had, and B) how they coordinated the two stagehands. Did they rotate back and forth, or was one stagehand always the "current category" person? It keeps me up at night.
[/quote]
I think we went into great detail last time, but here's the short version:

The stage manager is on the floor below the two stagehands, who are both up in a scaffolding behind the trilons. Stagehand #1 is handling the first category, and stagehand #2 will handle the second category when the game gets there. They just alternate from then on, with stagehand #1 handling categories #3 and #5.

Upon a cue from the control room, the stage manager then cues the stagehand who is holding the trilon in play to turn it in either of the two directions (correct or illegal clue), while cueing the other stagehand to reveal the next category. At that same time when a category is revealed, the other stagehand prepares to turn the subsequent trilon, as it could happen quickly if there is a passed category. When a new stagehand is assigned to that aspect of the show, they rehearse the correography before taping.

Sleep well  ;-)

Randy
tvrandywest.com
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: lobster on March 02, 2008, 03:38:26 PM
[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'179611\' date=\'Mar 2 2008, 01:56 PM\']
Upon a cue from the control room, the stage manager then cues the stagehand who is holding the trilon in play to turn it in either of the two directions (correct or illegal clue), while cueing the other stagehand to reveal the next category. At that same time when a category is revealed, the other stagehand prepares to turn the subsequent trilon, as it could happen quickly if there is a passed category. When a new stagehand is assigned to that aspect of the show, they rehearse the correography before taping.
[/quote]

Holy crap that's a lot of cues and coordination all to be executed so rapidly..  Are there any photos that exist of the behind-the-scenes?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: clemon79 on March 02, 2008, 03:54:32 PM
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179617\' date=\'Mar 2 2008, 12:38 PM\']
Holy crap that's a lot of cues and coordination all to be executed so rapidly..  Are there any photos that exist of the behind-the-scenes?
[/quote]
It's not, though, not with two people. Each person has to mind three boxes over the course of sixty seconds, and never more than one at a time. The only major move would be when Box One guy has to cross over his partner to get to Box Three.

I'm not trying to marginalize what they do, and certainly I am impressed with the flawlessness with which they do it, but I don't think it's a Herculean task in the least. :)
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: Neumms on March 02, 2008, 04:02:26 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179618\' date=\'Mar 2 2008, 03:54 PM\']
It's not, though, not with two people. Each person has to mind three boxes over the course of sixty seconds, and never more than one at a time. The only major move would be when Box One guy has to cross over his partner to get to Box Three.

I'm not trying to marginalize what they do, and certainly I am impressed with the flawlessness with which they do it, but I don't think it's a Herculean task in the least. :)
[/quote]

What was really amazing is that Concentration had 30 trilons, so 10 stagehands back there on the scaffolding to turn them, all in a much smaller space, as the boxes were smaller than Pyramid's.

No, no, just kidding.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: Kevin Prather on March 02, 2008, 04:07:05 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'179619\' date=\'Mar 2 2008, 01:02 PM\']
What was really amazing is that Concentration had 30 trilons, so 10 stagehands back there on the scaffolding to turn them, all in a much smaller space, as the boxes were smaller than Pyramid's.

No, no, just kidding.
[/quote]
Somehow, I got an image of thirty midgets running around turning boxes, and I lol'd. :)
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 02, 2008, 04:43:37 PM
Okay, now that we have that settled, how did BTB '76 work? :)
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on March 02, 2008, 04:49:48 PM
Thanks for the detailed reply, Randy. I'm actually pretty sure that I had asked the last time you mentioned that you got to see it up close, but you had probably already moved on to some silly paying job or other. :)

Yeah, that doesn't seem too complicated. When you're the "current category" stagehand, you're looking for either a "right", a "wrong", or a "pass". The stagehand at the next box is always only looking for a "reveal". Beyond what Chris said about going from #1 to #3, the only other cross-up issues might involve coming back to passed categories.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: dale_grass on March 03, 2008, 01:29:03 AM
Who controlled the trilon lights?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: chris319 on March 03, 2008, 10:34:26 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179618\' date=\'Mar 2 2008, 12:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179617\' date=\'Mar 2 2008, 12:38 PM\']
Holy crap that's a lot of cues and coordination all to be executed so rapidly..  Are there any photos that exist of the behind-the-scenes?
[/quote]
It's not, though, not with two people. Each person has to mind three boxes over the course of sixty seconds, and never more than one at a time. The only major move would be when Box One guy has to cross over his partner to get to Box Three.

I'm not trying to marginalize what they do, and certainly I am impressed with the flawlessness with which they do it, but I don't think it's a Herculean task in the least. :)
[/quote]
You've never worked on a game show, have you?

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Concentration had 30 trilons, so 10 stagehands back there on the scaffolding to turn them, all in a much smaller space, as the boxes were smaller than Pyramid's.
And the sound effects guy off camera making the sound with his mouth (or maybe they hired Mel Blanc to record the sound and put it on a cart).

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I got an image of thirty midgets running around turning boxes, and I lol'd. :)
Some of those little people stood on ladders to reach the upper rows (instead of using normal-sized people, see? Aw, never mind.)
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: lobster on March 03, 2008, 11:48:09 AM
I'm curious to know why trilons on any of these shows COULDN'T be automatic?  It's not like there'd need to be any high degree of technology present in order to just have trilons spin and snap to certain positions automatically -- and it couldn't have been expensive to rig either; sounds like it could have been done simply with servos & magnets ..

or was this some sort of conspiracy by the Trilon Workers Union Local 106?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: Mike Tennant on March 03, 2008, 11:59:48 AM
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179701\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 11:48 AM\']I'm curious to know why trilons on any of these shows COULDN'T be automatic?  It's not like there'd need to be any high degree of technology present in order to just have trilons spin and snap to certain positions automatically -- and it couldn't have been expensive to rig either; sounds like it could have been done simply with servos & magnets .. [/quote]More to break, I would think.  The Concentration board was apparently quite the pain at times.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: clemon79 on March 03, 2008, 01:38:02 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179692\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 07:34 AM\']
You've never worked on a game show, have you?[/quote]
No, I sure haven't. We didn't flip any trilons on the news. Hence, "I don't think." Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm especially coordinated so it just seems easy, but I'm pretty sure I could teach two people to do it.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: chris319 on March 03, 2008, 01:45:05 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm especially coordinated so it just seems easy
Turning trilons with your CENSORED doesn't count.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: clemon79 on March 03, 2008, 01:46:01 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179731\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:45 AM\']
Turning trilons with your CENSORED doesn't count.[/quote]
I doubt I could get one at a time if I did that. :)
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: chris319 on March 03, 2008, 01:48:05 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179732\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:46 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179731\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:45 AM\']
Turning trilons with your CENSORED doesn't count.[/quote]
I doubt I could get one at a time if I did that. :)
[/quote]
In your dreams.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: geno57 on March 03, 2008, 03:12:32 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179734\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179732\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:46 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179731\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:45 AM\']
Turning trilons with your CENSORED doesn't count.[/quote]
I doubt I could get one at a time if I did that. :)
[/quote]
In your dreams.
[/quote]

Maybe if they were really really tiiiiiiiny trilons?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: chris319 on March 03, 2008, 05:58:26 PM
[quote name=\'geno57\' post=\'179753\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179734\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179732\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:46 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179731\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:45 AM\']
Turning trilons with your CENSORED doesn't count.[/quote]
I doubt I could get one at a time if I did that. :)
[/quote]
In your dreams.
[/quote]

Maybe if they were really really tiiiiiiiny trilons?
[/quote]
He could do the home game.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: dale_grass on March 03, 2008, 09:37:58 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179793\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 06:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'geno57\' post=\'179753\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179734\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179732\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:46 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179731\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:45 AM\']
Turning trilons with your CENSORED doesn't count.[/quote]
I doubt I could get one at a time if I did that. :)
[/quote]
In your dreams.
[/quote]

Maybe if they were really really tiiiiiiiny trilons?
[/quote]
He could do the home game.
[/quote]
Coincidentally, I was the one who spun the Feud trilon from '88 to '94.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: Kevin Prather on March 04, 2008, 12:12:35 AM
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'179826\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 06:37 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179793\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 06:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'geno57\' post=\'179753\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179734\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179732\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:46 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179731\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:45 AM\']
Turning trilons with your CENSORED doesn't count.[/quote]
I doubt I could get one at a time if I did that. :)
[/quote]
In your dreams.
[/quote]

Maybe if they were really really tiiiiiiiny trilons?
[/quote]
He could do the home game.
[/quote]
Coincidentally, I was the one who spun the Feud trilon from '88 to '94.
[/quote]
I worked the WoF puzzle board.

/They wanted Vanna back. Imagine that.
//How much bigger will this quoting nest get?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: chris319 on March 04, 2008, 12:28:53 AM
Quote
Coincidentally, I was the one who spun the Feud trilon from '88 to '94.
This I believe. That would make you a stagehand at CBS at some time?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: clemon79 on March 04, 2008, 12:38:45 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179848\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 09:28 PM\']
This I believe. That would make you a stagehand at CBS at some time?
[/quote]
And really well-hung, apparently.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: chris319 on March 04, 2008, 12:48:36 AM
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And really well-hung, apparently.
Which one of us is the size qu ... aw, forget it.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: dale_grass on March 04, 2008, 01:04:23 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179848\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 01:28 AM\']
Quote
Coincidentally, I was the one who spun the Feud trilon from '88 to '94.
This I believe. That would make you a stagehand at CBS at some time?
[/quote]

No, not a stagehand.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: dale_grass on March 04, 2008, 01:05:47 AM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'179846\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 01:12 AM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'179826\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 06:37 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179793\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 06:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'geno57\' post=\'179753\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179734\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 12:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'179732\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:46 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179731\' date=\'Mar 3 2008, 10:45 AM\']
Turning trilons with your CENSORED doesn't count.[/quote]
I doubt I could get one at a time if I did that. :)
[/quote]
In your dreams.
[/quote]

Maybe if they were really really tiiiiiiiny trilons?
[/quote]
He could do the home game.
[/quote]
Coincidentally, I was the one who spun the Feud trilon from '88 to '94.
[/quote]
I worked the WoF puzzle board.

/They wanted Vanna back. Imagine that.
//How much bigger will this quoting nest get?
[/quote]

It can't get much bigger, unless some jackass decides to respond to your question.

\Wait a second...
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: chris319 on March 04, 2008, 02:12:28 AM
Quote
No, not a stagehand.
Are you in local 33?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: uncamark on March 04, 2008, 12:08:10 PM
It's "How Big Is It?", coming soon to Logo!
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: dale_grass on March 04, 2008, 08:19:05 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'179854\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 03:12 AM\']
Quote
No, not a stagehand.
Are you in local 33?
[/quote]

More like 9 1/2, locally.

\I could keep this up all week.
\\No pun intended.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: lobster on March 04, 2008, 08:35:21 PM
..along those lines ..

(dun dun dunnn)

is it coincidence that the two game shows with the most ominous trilons are hosted by guys named Dick Clark and Dick Dawson?

/thought i'd try my hand at it
//don't go all soft on me
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: BrandonFG on March 04, 2008, 08:42:32 PM
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179985\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 08:35 PM\']
is it coincidence that the two game shows with the most ominous trilons are hosted by guys named Dick Clark and Dick Dawson?
[/quote]
Well played.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: dale_grass on March 04, 2008, 09:01:35 PM
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179985\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 09:35 PM\']
..along those lines ..

(dun dun dunnn)

is it coincidence that the two game shows with the most ominous trilons are hosted by guys named Dick Clark and Dick Dawson?

/thought i'd try my hand at it
//don't go all soft on me
[/quote]

Bah-zing!

ObGameShow: Paul Lynde's favorite Biblical character was a young Peter.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: MikeK on March 04, 2008, 09:22:35 PM
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'179993\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 09:01 PM\']ObGameShow: Paul Lynde's favorite Biblical character was a young Peter.[/quote]
Hellbound Line of the Month.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: TenPoundHammer on March 04, 2008, 10:36:54 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'179867\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 12:08 PM\']
It's "How Big Is It?", coming soon to Logo!
[/quote]

Will that game feature 25-point boner questions?

/someone had to do it
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: lobster on March 04, 2008, 10:42:00 PM
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'179993\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 08:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179985\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 09:35 PM\']
..along those lines ..

(dun dun dunnn)

is it coincidence that the two game shows with the most ominous trilons are hosted by guys named Dick Clark and Dick Dawson?

/thought i'd try my hand at it
//don't go all soft on me
[/quote]

Bah-zing!

ObGameShow: Paul Lynde's favorite Biblical character was a young Peter.
[/quote]
..yes and Cox was often on top of him..

/too far?
//poorly played?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: geno57 on March 05, 2008, 02:42:06 AM
[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180010\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 09:48 PM\']
As for me, I'm just some random jack-off who only plays well only with myself.
[/quote]

Narz?  Clark?  Bailey?  Barry?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: tvwxman on March 05, 2008, 08:43:43 AM
[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180010\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 10:48 PM\']
Nope, not at all. That was well played as usual.

As for me, I'm just some random jack-off who only plays well only with myself.
[/quote]
Wow. Please stop posting. Once again, you're adding nothing to the conversation, and you're not funny.

/My two cents.
//Others will agree.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: TenPoundHammer on March 05, 2008, 12:05:09 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'180048\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 08:43 AM\']Wow. Please stop posting. Once again, you're adding nothing to the conversation, and you're not funny.

/My two cents.
//Others will agree.
[/quote]

Are any of the other jokesters really adding to this conversation? Not that I'm defending myself.

I've now heard from just about everybody that my jokes suck, so I'll stop. Unlike the rest of this board, I have no clue how to be funny.

Quote
Unlike the rest of this board, I have no clue how to be funny.

Fixed that for me.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: dzinkin on March 05, 2008, 12:23:32 PM
[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180072\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 12:05 PM\']
Are any of the other jokesters really adding to this conversation? Not that I'm defending myself.
[/quote]
In fact, actual humor does add to a conversation.  Your attempts at such do not, because you're not good at it.

Quote
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Unlike the rest of this board, I have no clue how to be funny.
Fixed that for me.
I'm not sure I'd go that far, but you would do far better if you'd stick to commenting only when you actually know something about the subject at hand.  Using humor to cover for a lack of knowledge is usually perceived as PJTP (aka Posting Just to Post).
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: tpirfan28 on March 05, 2008, 12:25:12 PM
I personally thought the trillions on both boards were electronically controlled with motors.

I'd assume that the main game pyramid was hand-controlled...possibly by the judge?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: William A. Padron on March 05, 2008, 12:51:58 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'180075\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 12:25 PM\']
I personally thought the trillions on both boards were electronically controlled with motors.

I'd assume that the main game pyramid was hand-controlled...possibly by the judge?
[/quote]

Yes, it was hand-controlled, at least during the days when it had the pulled subject cards and later trilons.  It was handled by a stagehand behind the board, along side with the stage manager getting his signals from upstairs in the control room.

Check out this snapshot photo by an audience member at a $20,000 Pyramid taping session in progress.  You might see the stagehand, somehow barely, behind the mini-pyramid.

http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr1.jpg (http://\"http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr1.jpg\")
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: lobster on March 05, 2008, 01:08:40 PM
hah that's cool..

and then he took these:
http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr2.jpg (http://\"http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr2.jpg\")
and
http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr3.jpg (http://\"http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr3.jpg\")

must have hung out by the exit to get that cool shot of Ms Worley
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: tvwxman on March 05, 2008, 01:10:43 PM
[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'180084\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 12:51 PM\']
http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr1.jpg (http://\"http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr1.jpg\")
[/quote]
That may be, to me, the best photo of the 20K Pyramid I've ever seen. Gives you a real indication just how deep the 'cavernous' looking studio actually was.

And the colors are incredible!

GREAT Find.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: lobster on March 05, 2008, 01:16:58 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'180090\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 12:10 PM\']
[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'180084\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 12:51 PM\']
http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr1.jpg (http://\"http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr1.jpg\")
[/quote]
That may be, to me, the best photo of the 20K Pyramid I've ever seen. Gives you a real indication just how deep the 'cavernous' looking studio actually was.

And the colors are incredible!

GREAT Find.
[/quote]

That's a nice vantage point the photographer had, i had no idea the studio had such a steep "stadium seating" style pitch to it
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: William A. Padron on March 05, 2008, 01:27:17 PM
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'180089\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 01:08 PM\']
hah that's cool..

and then he took these:
http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr2.jpg (http://\"http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr2.jpg\")
and
http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr3.jpg (http://\"http://subway.com.ru/other/images/pyr3.jpg\")

must have hung out by the exit to get that cool shot of Ms Worley
[/quote]

And also, Tony Randall about to go inside his taxi to take him home from TV-15 to his Central Park West apartment.

http://subway.com.ru/other/images/tr77.jpg (http://\"http://subway.com.ru/other/images/tr77.jpg\")

Yeah, they are cool photos, no doubt.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: bricon on March 05, 2008, 01:32:10 PM
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That's a nice vantage point the photographer had, i had no idea the studio had such a steep "stadium seating" style pitch to it

The picture was taken from the balcony of the theater, which accounts for the raised view.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: lobster on March 05, 2008, 01:36:22 PM
[quote name=\'bricon\' post=\'180098\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 12:32 PM\']
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That's a nice vantage point the photographer had, i had no idea the studio had such a steep "stadium seating" style pitch to it

The picture was taken from the balcony of the theater, which accounts for the raised view.
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was the balcony right over the stage or back above a bottom row of lower-level audience (like you see at Letterman, etc)?  The shot makes it appear as if they're right there feet away from the stage ..

/or.. zoom lens? :p
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: dale_grass on March 05, 2008, 02:18:49 PM
Does anybody else see the faint outlines of the four hidden squares at the bottom of the board?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: BrandonFG on March 05, 2008, 02:21:50 PM
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Does anybody else see the faint outlines of the four hidden squares at the bottom of the board?
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Good eye.

However, I was always under the impression that the original, 10-trilon board, remained property of CBS, and the ABC art dept. built a new board from scratch?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: William A. Padron on March 05, 2008, 02:41:03 PM
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'180106\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 02:18 PM\']
Does anybody else see the faint outlines of the four hidden squares at the bottom of the board?
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Good eye.

However, I was always under the impression that the original, 10-trilon board, remained property of CBS, and the ABC art dept. built a new board from scratch?
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Correct...ABC-TV just simply built a new Pyramid set from scratch at a said cost of $80,000.  It made its first on-air appearence during its seventh week on the air (June 17-21, 1974) with celebrity guests June Lockhart and William Shatner.

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was the balcony right over the stage or back above a bottom row of lower-level audience (like you see at Letterman, etc)?  The shot makes it appear as if they're right there feet away from the stage ..

/or.. zoom lens? :p
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The balcony's edge in the first few rows at TV-15 was just little over the stage's end.  If an audience member was lucky enough to sit in the very first row, the view in seeing the show videotaped would be really that close, and far much better than being downstairs in the orchestra section at times.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: lobster on March 07, 2008, 05:07:20 PM
I just heard from the gentleman who took those Pyramid set photos, and here's what he writes:

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Hello Robert,

I used to go to the Pyramid a lot when I was a teenager and took lots of
photos. At some point I'll be posting more of the photo on my site, but
right now those are the only few I have.

Take care,
-Larry

So apparently there will be more to be had :D

I'm actually surprised they didn't mind someone in the audience having a camera (doesn't appear he was so stealth about it judging from those great shots), as it seems every time I've ever been to a taping that's the one big no-no..

in my follow-up I asked if they ever let him on stage to take a shot of the back of the large pyramid.. I guess we'll soon see what goodies he has :]

LObs
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: chris319 on March 07, 2008, 07:41:23 PM
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[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'180084\' date=\'Mar 5 2008, 12:51 PM\']
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That may be, to me, the best photo of the 20K Pyramid I've ever seen. Gives you a real indication just how deep the 'cavernous' looking studio actually was.

And the colors are incredible!

GREAT Find.
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It's also a great glimpse at the end of an era: ABC TV-15, home to shows ranging from The Dick Cavett Show to Music Bingo to Pyramid, which I believe was the last show in there.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: HYHYBT on March 07, 2008, 09:04:42 PM
A couple of Possibly-Stupid Questions: why, since this Pyramid never had the bottom four boxes, is there still a line under the row of three, and what is the mound of carpet (visible in the first picture) right in front of the big pyramid for?
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: BrandonFG on March 07, 2008, 09:12:20 PM
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[W]hat is the mound of carpet (visible in the first picture) right in front of the big pyramid for?
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To hide Jimmy Hoffa. ;-)
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: William A. Padron on March 08, 2008, 02:55:41 PM
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'180452\' date=\'Mar 7 2008, 05:07 PM\']
I just heard from the gentleman who took those Pyramid set photos, and here's what he writes:

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Hello Robert,

I used to go to the Pyramid a lot when I was a teenager and took lots of
photos. At some point I'll be posting more of the photo on my site, but
right now those are the only few I have.

Take care,
-Larry

So apparently there will be more to be had :D

I'm actually surprised they didn't mind someone in the audience having a camera (doesn't appear he was so stealth about it judging from those great shots), as it seems every time I've ever been to a taping that's the one big no-no..

in my follow-up I asked if they ever let him on stage to take a shot of the back of the large pyramid.. I guess we'll soon see what goodies he has :]

LObs
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Well, from my personal experience in going to these NYC Pyramid tapings at ABC TV-15, and despite being printed on the ticket saying it was prohibited, photo taking was allowed by the show, as long as you did not use a flashbulb.  That was instructed by announcer Bob Clayton during the warm-ups, and any audience member can easily shoot their photos with no problems or hassling from anyone on the network or production company staff.

[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' post=\'180460\' date=\'Mar 7 2008, 09:04 PM\']
A couple of Possibly-Stupid Questions: why, since this Pyramid never had the bottom four boxes, is there still a line under the row of three, and what is the mound of carpet (visible in the first picture) right in front of the big pyramid for?
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The dividing middle line for the ABC-TV big pyramid's bottom three boxes is a bit lower than the one for the original CBS-TV design, which was right at the edge of that board's now bottom three boxes.  The ABC big pyramid board's lower section, where they would be a provision added for those four additional boxes never used on the CBS version, is hollow and nothing else.

The mound of carpet was simply a covering not to show a recessed portion of the pyramid board underneath that was not painted in gold lame.  The carpet mound did not cover the so-called four bottom boxes on the original CBS set pet se, and that was instead covered with gold lame plywood in a two pieces (there is a straight line down the middle also).

Why not ten categories?  Because during some run throughs conducted by Bob Stewart before they were going to start taping the first CBS 10K episodes, it was discovered that during game play, no one could easily solve ten subjects and win within 60 seconds.  Stewart told this problem to CBS, and simply told them to make that change.  The plywood stayed up there until the show moved to ABC TV-15 with its duplicate set and a brand new board from scratch.
Title: The "Pyramid" Trilons
Post by: clemon79 on March 08, 2008, 03:17:18 PM
"Yes, it was fine to take non-flash pictures at the tapings I attended."

How hard is that?