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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: toetyper on February 23, 2008, 12:48:50 PM
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of all shows that offer 1 million dollars. which one do you think had the toughest road to the million/ im excluding jeopardy because what ken did was soooooooooooooooo far from the norm
toughest survivor
easiest, 1000000 chance of a lifetimep
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Hit the Buzzer, Win a Cookie.
Takes a hell of a long time, but there's very little challenge.
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Limiting ourselves to actual shows that have advertised million-dollar payouts, I think Weakest Link has to rate as harder to win $1M on than Survivor.
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Even though we haven't see it yet, I'm gonna bet Million Dollar Password is going to be hard as hell to give away a million. And I'm not talking about content...I'm talking about competent celebrities giving decent enough clues.
Another show: The Celebrity Hollywood Squares/Connect Four Hour
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Right now the easiest is Deal or No Deal.
What other show gives you a 50-50 shot?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'178601\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 10:02 AM\']
Hit the Buzzer, Win a Cookie.
[/quote]
I believe Steve's unwritten sentiments echo mine.
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Toughest: Deal or No Deal by a landslide
Easiest: WWTBAM
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[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'178618\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 03:33 PM\']What other show gives you a 50-50 shot?[/quote]
Them's not tha' satistics talkin'.
Even with 13 million dollar cases in play (which is far, far removed from the norm on the show), you still have less than a 50/50 chance of winning a million dollars. There is a 50/50 chance that your case holds a million dollars, but you'd still either have to be left with a guaranteed win (and the odds aren't 50/50 for that) or else you'd have to make one ridiculous gamble in order to have a chance to win it.
In fact I think the Mission they've been playing for the last few weeks shows just how hard it is for someone to win the million dollar grand prize on Deal or No Deal.
In terms of guaranteed huge payouts, I would have liked my chances on Duel.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'178621\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 03:59 PM\']Easiest: WWTBAM
[/quote]Its always easy to win a million when the answers are displayed for you.
Honestly, how many people on this forum can say they'd have even a decent shot at it?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'178624\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 01:06 PM\']
Honestly, how many people on this forum can say they'd have even a decent shot at it?[/quote]
I'm thinking that number is a little higher than you think.
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Easiest: WWTBAM
Disagree with that. It's been nearly 5 years since it was won on the syndie show. Maybe the questions are harder than they were on Regis' version, but for a life-changing million dollars they should be hard. If it was that easy it would have happened more often.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'178630\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 04:19 PM\'] Maybe the questions are harder than they were on Regis' version, [/quote]
They absolutely, positively are, and have been from Day One.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'178624\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 03:06 PM\'] [quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'178621\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 03:59 PM\']Easiest: WWTBAM
[/quote]Its always easy to win a million when the answers are displayed for you.[/quote]
No arguing with Matt's point about the questions, but how can you call something "easy" without assessing the risk involved? In this case, it's equally "easy" to lose $468,000.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178620\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 03:56 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'178601\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 10:02 AM\']
Hit the Buzzer, Win a Cookie.
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I believe Steve's unwritten sentiments echo mine.
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No, that was from the classic cartoon show: [/i]Garfield and Friends.
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[quote name=\'GSRebich\' post=\'178649\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 03:27 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178620\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 03:56 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'178601\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 10:02 AM\']
Hit the Buzzer, Win a Cookie.
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I believe Steve's unwritten sentiments echo mine.
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No, that was from the classic cartoon show: [/i]Garfield and Friends.
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Thank goodness Chris C. put this in the archives for easy access!
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9759/picardbv6rw9.jpg (http://\"http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9759/picardbv6rw9.jpg\")
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Honest to God, I didn't even know that was a GS parody. I thought it was a sarcastic remark. Oh well...learn something new every day. (http://\"http://hardwarelogic.com/articles/blogs/Website_Reviews_and_You/MoreYouKnow.jpg\")
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[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'178618\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 03:33 PM\']Right now the easiest is Deal or No Deal.
What other show gives you a 50-50 shot?[/quote]
The $1,000,000 Celebrity Coin Toss?
Easiest (IMO): The Wonderwall on Winning Lines. And she STILL had a freakin' pitstop.
Hardest: Greed. The only individual who won the million was Curtis Warren, and that's only because he had one of the simplest big bucks questions for his million dollar moment.
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[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'178597\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 12:48 PM\']
of all shows that offer 1 million dollars. which one do you think had the toughest road to the million/ im excluding jeopardy because what ken did was soooooooooooooooo far from the norm
toughest survivor
easiest, 1000000 chance of a lifetimep
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I'd say toughest would be either Survivor because of all the crap you have to go through -- eating bugs and other (mostly) non-food items, using palm fronds for TP, dealing with bitchy teammates, etc. -- to win the million. (Are my mom and I the only two people on the planet who despised Survivor from the very first ep?)
Second place would be another show I hated from Day One -- The Meanest Weakest Link, only because the show's money ladder was so convoluted (broken?) that nobody even came close.
Easiest million on a game show? I'd have to agree with the OP here and pick $1,000,000 Chance of a Lifetime. I've always found game show Hangman derivatives word games to be fairly easy.
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[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'178657\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 04:40 PM\']I've always found game show
Hangman derivatives word games to be fairly easy.[/quote]Except for that laundry list of Wheel of Fortune bonus round puzzles you couldn't solve so by fault they're the hardest in the show's history.
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[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'178657\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 07:40 PM\']Second place would be another show I hated from Day One -- The
Meanest Weakest Link, only because the show's money ladder was so convoluted (broken?) that nobody even came close.[/quote]
How was the money ladder convoluted or broken? The more questions you get right, the more money you can win, with much larger payoffs for longer unbroken strings. But you have to bank the money before giving a wrong answer. And there's a limit of $125,000 ($12,500) ($25,000) (insert amount here) each round. Seems pretty simple to me--and all a contestant really had to internalize was "say 'bank' to play it safe, or don't to try to build up more money".
The reasons nobody came close to winning 1 million on that show: A) it required getting multiple long strings of questions correct, and B) it required the contestants to accept the risk of taking questions worth either Big Bucks or nothing rather than just playing it safe and shouting "bank".
Here's an unlikely-to-be-answered question (but who knows around here): on the $1M NBC version, what was the highest potential payout on any particular show's questions and answers, given perfect banking? I'd be shocked if that number was very much above $500,000.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'178652\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 06:55 PM\']
Thank goodness Chris C. put this in the archives for easy access!
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9759/picardbv6rw9.jpg (http://\"http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9759/picardbv6rw9.jpg\")
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So I guess my hope that this stupid picture would die a horrible death is...well, dying a horrible death.
Come on...THIS ONE IS BETTER! (http://\"http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1671/notthisshitagainep0.jpg\") And a not so copyright-infringing way to express frustrations at the idiocy of some posts.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178676\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:24 AM\']
[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'178652\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 06:55 PM\']
Thank goodness Chris C. put this in the archives for easy access!
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9759/picardbv6rw9.jpg (http://\"http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9759/picardbv6rw9.jpg\")
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So I guess my hope that this stupid picture would die a horrible death is...well, dying a horrible death.
Come on...THIS ONE IS BETTER! (http://\"http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1671/notthisshitagainep0.jpg\") And a not so copyright-infringing way to express frustrations at the idiocy of some posts.
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I'm sorry, but I'm a fan of any putdown that involves either Patrick Stewart or Gene Wilder, and Chris has them both. You're generic image is just that: generic. It lacks a certain star fleet captain or chocolatier quality. It's like watching a scene from Law & Order when someone's standing in front of a vending machine and it just says "Cola." C'mon, NBC, pick Coke or Pepsi (and don't get me started on my Coke vs. Pepsi rant).
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178677\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 12:57 AM\']
I'm sorry, but I'm a fan of any putdown that involves either Patrick Stewart or Gene Wilder, and Chris has them both. You're generic image is just that: generic. It lacks a certain star fleet captain or chocolatier quality. It's like watching a scene from Law & Order when someone's standing in front of a vending machine and it just says "Cola." C'mon, NBC, pick Coke or Pepsi (and don't get me started on my Coke vs. Pepsi rant).
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But there's a diff between the Wilder thing and the Picard thing...one sucks, the other doesn't.
(Wanna PM the Coke vs. Pepsi rant? Suddenly you piqued my curiosity, Mr. Grass. ;))
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178678\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 02:00 AM\']
(Wanna PM the Coke vs. Pepsi rant? Suddenly you piqued my curiosity, Mr. Grass. ;))
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I was alluding to an earlier post (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14731&st=7&p=176974&#entry176974\") where I skewed onto a tangent.
Basically, I love Coke and hate Pepsi, almost as much as I hate it when I go to a restaurant and discover they only have Pepsi products and the waitress just gives you a look of helplessness, as if to tell you she wasn't the one who chose which distributor to go with, and you want to smack her for that patronizing look, but then you realize she's just trying to be nice, so you order a Mountain Dew, even though Mountain Dew doesn't do anything for anyone soda-wise, and there isn't a food on God's green earth that goes well with Mountain Dew and never will be (except maybe certain Mexican dishes, but you'd have to stretch), and now you've got a great big glass of lemon-lime sadness sitting on your table whose smell reminds you it's time to mop the kitchen floor... y'know what? I just like Coke better.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178679\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 10:22 PM\']
...and now you've got a great big glass of lemon-lime sadness sitting on your table whose smell reminds you it's time to mop the kitchen floor... y'know what? I just like Coke better.
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Mountain Dew is more of an orange soda than a lemon-lime, but your point still stands.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178679\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:22 AM\']
Basically, I love Coke and hate Pepsi, almost as much as I hate it when I go to a restaurant and discover they only have Pepsi products and the waitress just gives you a look of helplessness, as if to tell you she wasn't the one who chose which distributor to go with, and you want to smack her for that patronizing look, but then you realize she's just trying to be nice, so you order a Mountain Dew, even though Mountain Dew doesn't do anything for anyone soda-wise, and there isn't a food on God's green earth that goes well with Mountain Dew and never will be (except maybe certain Mexican dishes, but you'd have to stretch), and now you've got a great big glass of lemon-lime sadness sitting on your table whose smell reminds you it's time to mop the kitchen floor... y'know what? I just like Coke better.
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I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.
/I still lol'd.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'178680\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 02:26 AM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178679\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 10:22 PM\']
...and now you've got a great big glass of lemon-lime sadness sitting on your table whose smell reminds you it's time to mop the kitchen floor... y'know what? I just like Coke better.
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Mountain Dew is more of an orange soda than a lemon-lime, but your point still stands.
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Have you seen a glass of that stuff recently? The only way an orange soda is that color is if the grove was located just outside Chernoyl.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'178681\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:27 AM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178679\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:22 AM\']
Basically, I love Coke and hate Pepsi, almost as much as I hate it when I go to a restaurant and discover they only have Pepsi products and the waitress just gives you a look of helplessness, as if to tell you she wasn't the one who chose which distributor to go with, and you want to smack her for that patronizing look, but then you realize she's just trying to be nice, so you order a Mountain Dew, even though Mountain Dew doesn't do anything for anyone soda-wise, and there isn't a food on God's green earth that goes well with Mountain Dew and never will be (except maybe certain Mexican dishes, but you'd have to stretch), and now you've got a great big glass of lemon-lime sadness sitting on your table whose smell reminds you it's time to mop the kitchen floor... y'know what? I just like Coke better.
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I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.
/I still lol'd.
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As did I.
Well done, gentlemen.
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As for me, I'll have tea, Earl Grey, hot.
(Here's one hint as to why some folks would find the Picard image funnier--it doesn't have any words in it . . . and it doesn't need any.)
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'178686\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 02:22 AM\']
(Here's one hint as to why some folks would find the Picard image funnier--it doesn't have any words in it . . . and it doesn't need any.)
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Yeah...still don't like it. To each his own, I suppose.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178677\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 09:57 PM\']
I'm sorry, but I'm a fan of any putdown that involves either Patrick Stewart or Gene Wilder[/quote]
Dale gets it. Pop-culture references FTW.
[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'178680\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 10:26 PM\']
Mountain Dew is more of an orange soda than a lemon-lime, but your point still stands.[/quote]
Depends on which one you're drinking. The bog-standard Mountain Dew is most definitely a lemon-limeish citrus drink. That Game Fuel stuff they did to help pimp Halo 3 (and subsequently deployed in every Microsoft kitchen EXCEPT the ones in my building, despite c**kteasing me with a "Coming soon!" sticker) was definitely closer to orange soda.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178679\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 12:22 AM\']Basically, I love Coke and hate Pepsi, almost as much as I hate it when I go to a restaurant and discover they only have Pepsi products and the waitress just gives you a look of helplessness, as if to tell you she wasn't the one who chose which distributor to go with, and you want to smack her for that patronizing look, but then you realize she's just trying to be nice, so you order a Mountain Dew, even though Mountain Dew doesn't do anything for anyone soda-wise, and there isn't a food on God's green earth that goes well with Mountain Dew and never will be (except maybe certain Mexican dishes, but you'd have to stretch), and now you've got a great big glass of lemon-lime sadness sitting on your table whose smell reminds you it's time to mop the kitchen floor... y'know what? I just like Coke better.
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Lately I've discovered that you can get a Dr. Pepper at a lot of these places, which is at least something of an improvement. Of course, that makes it even more depressing when you go someplace where even that's not an option.
ETA: I forgot to say, I have a problem comparing the difficulty of a $1,000,000 win on Survivor to other shows, because it's guaranteed to happen exactly once in each cycle. How do you compare that to a show where, theoretically, it's possible for every contestant to win it?
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Meh, as for the toughest...
Ask me in a few weeks. Or maybe next week.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178679\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:22 AM\']Basically, I love Coke and hate Pepsi...[/quote]Are you from a Southern state by chance? Just wondering; this got brought up at work one day, and it seems far more common down South than up here.
The bog-standard Mountain Dew is most definitely a lemon-limeish citrus drink.
Gonna have to side with Kevin here...considering one of the ingredients in Mountain Dew is OJ (concentrated, I believe), I think it tastes far closer to Minute Maid or Sunkist than a Sprite or a 7up (which tastes like shit since they went "all natural")[quote name=\''Jay Temple'\']Lately I've discovered that you can get a Dr. Pepper at a lot of these places, which is at least something of an improvement. Of course, that makes it even more depressing when you go someplace where even that's not an option.[/quote]I think it has something to do with who is the Dr. Pepper distributor in the area. I think you're far more likely to see Dr. Pepper with a Pepsi fountain as opposed to a Coke one, since Coke has their own variant (Mr. Pibb). Pepsi's equivalent went bust (Dr. Slice).
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178679\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:22 AM\']
so you order a Mountain Dew, even though Mountain Dew doesn't do anything for anyone soda-wise, and there isn't a food on God's green earth that goes well with Mountain Dew and never will be (except maybe certain Mexican dishes, but you'd have to stretch),
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Would you prefer Mountain Dew or crab juice? (http://\"http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F22\")
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'178697\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 10:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178679\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:22 AM\']
so you order a Mountain Dew, even though Mountain Dew doesn't do anything for anyone soda-wise, and there isn't a food on God's green earth that goes well with Mountain Dew and never will be (except maybe certain Mexican dishes, but you'd have to stretch),
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Would you prefer Mountain Dew or crab juice? (http://\"http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F22\")
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One of those choices is really gross. Ewwww.
I'll take the crab juice.
/BTW, my mother, who's Southern, prefers Pepsi.
//Thankfully, my trip to Manhattan wasn't that rough.
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Yeah, there's something I forgot to add. If there's Dr Pepper on the menu, I go with that, no questions asked.
Shows where a million dollar winner is guaranteed, like Survivor, shouldn't be in the running. That said, DoND is by far the easiest: it requires no knowledge whatsoever (a near-sighted orangutan with an inner ear infection could win the million) and the odds have sharply increased due to the latest gimmick. (Which reminds me of a possible gimmick: Have a near-sighted orangutan with an inner ear infection throw poo at the models to choose the next case. Or throw poo at Howie. Either way, I'd start watching again.) The hardest million is hard to call. You could get a string of questions on Millionaire that are easy for you, or your celebrity partner on Password could be an out-and-out moron. I'll let more learned people decide this one.
ObSimpsonsReference: "Ow, my eye! I'm not supposed to get pudding in it!"
\And I'm from Minnesota, so I prefer "pop" over "soda." So what? Big whoop. Ya wanna fight about it?
\\Damn, a new set of references.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178715\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 10:27 AM\']
\And I'm from Minnesota, so I prefer "pop" over "soda." So what? Big whoop. Ya wanna fight about it?[/quote]
They have a hard-on about this in Washington, too. That and apparently appending the article "the" when referring to a highway number (such as "when I go to work in the morning I take the 522 over the top of the lake") marks you as a Californian, which annoys them because a lot of people think that Californians (never mind that a lot of the migration to the area has been from OTHER states, too) are responsible for ruining their state.
/which is why I do it at EVERY opportunity
//suck it, locals
///you'd still be pulling threads out of your sweaters if it wasn't for us
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178715\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:27 PM\']
That said, DoND is by far the easiest: it requires no knowledge whatsoever (a near-sighted orangutan with an inner ear infection could win the million) and the odds have sharply increased due to the latest gimmick.
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Interesting that you would call DoND "by far the easiest" when it's just about the only significant show with a million dollar prize that HASN'T been given away. It's certainly the easiest show to play, and whoever eventually wins the million will arguably have done the least to earn it, but as I said earlier in this very thread, the fact that they're loading the board with million dollar cases and STILL can't give the grand prize away ought to show you just how HARD it is to win a million on the show.
/Oh, and the Picard thing is perfect as it is. Pop culture rules.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'178696\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 09:02 AM\']
I think it has something to do with who is the Dr. Pepper distributor in the area. I think you're far more likely to see Dr. Pepper with a Pepsi fountain as opposed to a Coke one, since Coke has their own variant (Mr. Pibb).
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I always found that one interesting...in my former life I worked at a Wendy's, who, like many other fast-food restaurants, serves Coke products. Yet, Dr. Pepper is always at the fountain as well, but I rarely see Mr. Pibb.
In college, the soda vs. pop almost started a few fights.
/Not literally
//Those Midwesterners take their pop seriously!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178717\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 10:42 AM\']
They have a hard-on about this in Washington, too. That and apparently appending the article "the" when referring to a highway number (such as "when I go to work in the morning I take the 522 over the top of the lake") marks you as a Californian, which annoys them because a lot of people think that Californians (never mind that a lot of the migration to the area has been from OTHER states, too) are responsible for ruining their state.
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This made me lol, because when I do the traffic on my radio show, I often say "The 520".
I also lol'd at your saying "the 522." I know it changes from Lake City Way in to Bothell Way at the city limit, but I've still never heard anyone call it the 522. :)
Speaking of the 522, it turns in to I-5 at around 75th while it's still Lake City Way, and they call that the Bothell Way Interchange. What kinda crap is that? :)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178719\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 11:00 AM\']
/Oh, and the Picard thing is perfect as it is. Pop culture rules.
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Which means, to Mr. Palmer:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/673/hairaftersk5.jpg (http://\"http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/673/hairaftersk5.jpg\")
:D
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'178721\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 01:06 PM\']In college, the soda vs. pop almost started a few fights.
/Not literally
//Those Midwesterners take their pop seriously!
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St. Louis, my area, has been called an island of soda in a sea of pop.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'178721\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 02:06 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'178696\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 09:02 AM\']
I think it has something to do with who is the Dr. Pepper distributor in the area. I think you're far more likely to see Dr. Pepper with a Pepsi fountain as opposed to a Coke one, since Coke has their own variant (Mr. Pibb).
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I always found that one interesting...in my former life I worked at a Wendy's, who, like many other fast-food restaurants, serves Coke products. Yet, Dr. Pepper is always at the fountain as well, but I rarely see Mr. Pibb.
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I work for Coke, and still don't know why Dr. Pepper is prefered over Pibb in fountains. For some reason, I want to say Pibb syrup isn't made...but I'm probably off base with that one.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'178732\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 02:53 PM\']
I work for Coke, and still don't know why Dr. Pepper is prefered over Pibb in fountains. For some reason, I want to say Pibb syrup isn't made...but I'm probably off base with that one.
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I would lean that way myself, considering that the Johnny Rockets nearest to me serves Pibb while every other Coke fountain outlet that chooses to serve Dr. Pepper does (not all of 'em do, for the record).
/Rockets is a ripoff
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Mr Pibb has actually been discontinued since 2001. Its replacement is called Pibb Xtra, with a different formula than the original.
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[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'178741\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:33 PM\']
Mr Pibb has actually been discontinued since 2001. Its replacement is called Pibb Xtra, with a different formula than the original.
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I heard that they just renamed the original and redid the formula, kinda like with New Coke.
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I see Pibb Xtra in exactly one place: Moe's Southwest Grill. Never found it anywhere else, in cans, bottles or fountain.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178742\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 12:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'178741\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:33 PM\']
Mr Pibb has actually been discontinued since 2001. Its replacement is called Pibb Xtra, with a different formula than the original.[/quote]
I heard that they just renamed the original and redid the formula, kinda like with New Coke.[/quote]
Um, isn't that basically what he said?
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'178743\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:36 PM\']
I see Pibb Xtra in exactly one place: Moe's Southwest Grill. Never found it anywhere else, in cans, bottles or fountain.
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Wow...that's weird. There's Pibb in every grocery store in my area. Stocked some today, even.
(Yes, I realize *I* should have stated the Pibb Xtra thing. But to me (and seemingly everyone who shops when I stock), it's just called "Pibb" for short.
/never had Pibb or Pibb Xtra, FWIW.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178719\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:00 PM\']
Interesting that you would call DoND "by far the easiest" when it's just about the only significant show with a million dollar prize that HASN'T been given away. It's certainly the easiest show to play, and whoever eventually wins the million will arguably have done the least to earn it, but as I said earlier in this very thread, the fact that they're loading the board with million dollar cases and STILL can't give the grand prize away ought to show you just how HARD it is to win a million on the show.
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There's a slight flaw in your logic. For example, PowerBall. Sometimes the jackpot gets up to $300 million, sometimes someone wins it at $20 million. The game's the exact same. It's just a matter of luck. Joe Schmoe from Left Bear Nut, Arkansas, has a 1/26 chance of picking the million dollar case. It's that simple. I don't have the stats in front of me, but hasn't someone already picked the million dollar case, only to have switched? People are persuaded from the million with bank offers, but at the end of the day the game boils down to simple chance. The producers have zany contestants, a comedic host, twenty-six pieces of eye candy, and never-ending gimicks in the hopes that the viewers won't realize they'd have as much fun buying a $5 scratch-off card. This game is so close to Hit the Buzzer, Win a Cookie it almost depresses me. Then I remember there are other TV channels and a shelf full of books in the office, so I turn it off.
\I need a Dr Pepper.
\\Or Mr. Pibb. They're both exquisite.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'178755\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:59 PM\']
Wow...that's weird. There's Pibb in every grocery store in my area. Stocked some today, even.
[/quote]
Seems like it can vary widely from market to market... Here in Denver, some of the stores still carry Tab but you never see it anywhere else hardly.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178765\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 02:46 PM\']There's a slight flaw in your logic. For example, PowerBall. Sometimes the jackpot gets up to $300 million, sometimes someone wins it at $20 million. The game's the exact same. It's just a matter of luck.[/quote]But that's not a logistical flaw, that's a rhetorical flaw in the question. There's a difference in "amount of work I have to do to win the Prize" and "difficulty of that work" DonD has a very low X quantity (pick the right number) but a very high Y quantity (be right in that first choice, or avoid it to the end, and subsequently turn down huge amounts of money to get there). Survivor has high X and Y (you have to stick around to be in the final three, convince enough people to vote for you, and deal with the tribulations of living on your own for a month-and-change, and dealing with other people who want that money for themselves, and are willing to do what they need to in order to get that cash.) On the other hand, "name four films that were made into movies" is the lowest X-Y I can think of.
/what can I say, I'm a metrics geek.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178765\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 05:46 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178719\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:00 PM\']Interesting that you would call DoND "by far the easiest" when it's just about the only significant show with a million dollar prize that HASN'T been given away. It's certainly the easiest show to play, and whoever eventually wins the million will arguably have done the least to earn it, but as I said earlier in this very thread, the fact that they're loading the board with million dollar cases and STILL can't give the grand prize away ought to show you just how HARD it is to win a million on the show. [/quote]
There's a slight flaw in your logic. [/quote]
Really, now?
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178765\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 05:46 PM\']For example, PowerBall. Sometimes the jackpot gets up to $300 million, sometimes someone wins it at $20 million. The game's the exact same. It's just a matter of luck. Joe Schmoe from Left Bear Nut, Arkansas, has a 1/26 chance of picking the million dollar case. It's that simple. I don't have the stats in front of me, but hasn't someone already picked the million dollar case, only to have switched? People are persuaded from the million with bank offers, but at the end of the day the game boils down to simple chance. [/quote]
For the record, several people have had the million dollar case in their possession without switching. And none of those players won a million dollars.
I'll try again. Everybody understands that the game is luck. Therefore the game is "easy" to play. Eventually someone will win a million, and that person will not have had to work very hard to win it. That person will have been lucky.
Yes, there is a 1 in 26 chance of picking the million dollar case. However, that is not the same as having a 1 in 26 chance of winning a million dollars. Not even remotely close. That's one of several flaws in your logic. The question was not which game is the easiest to play. The question was which game is the easiest to win a million dollars playing. Most of us agreed a while ago that under the original structure, Deal or No Deal would be one of the most difficult games to win a million on, because so many things would have to go your way and you'd still be left with a pricey gamble. Now that they're adding cases in order to virtually guarantee a million dollar win, they're still having a hard time doing it.
I'll grant that a DoND game with 13 million dollar cases represents just about the easiest possible way to win a million. But you're indicating that the basic game is "by far the easiest", and that just ain't so.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178769\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:03 PM\']
For the record, several people have had the million dollar case in their possession without switching. And none of those players won a million dollars.
[/quote]
How can you pick the million dollar case and not win the million dollars? Seriously, I don't watch the show any more. Granted, there are inducements throughout the show (as I mentioned), but if I pick a case and close my ears for the rest of the show, I have a 1 in 26 chance of winning the million, correct? You're right, though. I was taking into account the ease of play, as per the OP. That's the thing that bugs me about the show. On Jeopardy or WWTBAM, if you're smart, you're far more likely to get the million. On DoND, a pulse is all that's required. I get your point entirely. I'm just still stymied that the show is even on the air.
Let's switch gears for a moment. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this:Most of us agreed a while ago that under the original structure, Deal or No Deal would be one of the most difficult games to win a million on, because so many things would have to go your way and you'd still be left with a pricey gamble.
As far as I can tell, only one thing would have to go your way: you pick the right case at the beginning. I don't see what the middle stuff has to do with getting the million dollars. If it does, please illuminate the situation.
\I can't believe I wasted so much time and energy on Deal or No Deal.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178769\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:03 PM\']
But you're indicating that the basic game is "by far the easiest", and that just ain't so.
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Just so we're perfectly clear, I was basing opinion on "after-the-fact" winnings. Ann, Bryan, and Chad each won a million dollars: Ann on Jeopardy, Bryan on DoND, and Chad on WWTBAM. Which was the easiest million? Bryan.
Now the reverse: Ann, Bryan, and Chad will be appearing on Jeopardy, DoND, and WWTBAM, respectively. Who's the most likely to get the million?
Now that I got my lines uncrossed, I'm officially done ever talking about DoND. (I do, however, reserve the right to bash the snot out of it if the opportunity arrises.)
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178778\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:38 PM\']How can you pick the million dollar case and not win the million dollars? Seriously, I don't watch the show any more. [/quote]So you're arguing about something that you admit you don't even know how it works?
You gotta be kidding me.
/A player can accept a "deal," and thereby sell the chosen case, for a smaller (or larger) amount than what is in the case.
//or they can play on, saying "no deal," and open more cases; thereby changing the climate of the game depending upon the amounts in those opened cases.
///The password is..."condescending."
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'178782\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:51 PM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178778\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:38 PM\']How can you pick the million dollar case and not win the million dollars? Seriously, I don't watch the show any more. [/quote]So you're arguing about something that you admit you don't even know how it works?
You gotta be kidding me.
/A player can accept a "deal," and thereby sell the chosen case, for a smaller (or larger) amount than what is in the case.
//or they can play on, saying "no deal," and open more cases; thereby changing the climate of the game depending upon the amounts in those opened cases.
///The password is..."condescending."
[/quote]
I wasn't arguing. I was asking a question. See that squiggly mark with a dot under it at the end, like this one? That indicates a question. (Now you have permission to call me condescending.)
I know the general gist of the game. I was wondering if it was possible to pick the right case, keep it for the duration, and not walk away with a million dollars. A "yes" or "no" will suffice in the future.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178778\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 06:38 PM\']As far as I can tell, only one thing would have to go your way: you pick the right case at the beginning. I don't see what the middle stuff has to do with getting the million dollars. If it does, please illuminate the situation.
\I can't believe I wasted so much time and energy on Deal or No Deal.[/quote]
Clearly, you don't understand the way the game is played. Which is fine if you don't care for it. A lot of people don't. But to turn around and tell ME that my logic is flawed even though YOU clearly don't know what you're talking about is the height of misplaced arrogance.
Without getting into a lot of detail that you probably aren't that interested in anyway, the 'inducements', as you call them, eventually become so attractive that a player will nearly always accept one before reaching the end of the game, because they risk ending up with a much smaller amount.
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' post=\'178766\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 05:50 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'178755\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:59 PM\']
Wow...that's weird. There's Pibb in every grocery store in my area. Stocked some today, even.
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Seems like it can vary widely from market to market... Here in Denver, some of the stores still carry Tab but you never see it anywhere else hardly.
[/quote]
Wow again...my market carries both Tab and Pibb. Northern Indiana must be weird.
/OBGS: Easiest to win a million? Pepsi's Play for a Billion. Blind-assed luck, but topical!
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178786\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:59 PM\']
Clearly, you don't understand the way the game is played. Which is fine if you don't care for it. A lot of people don't. But to turn around and tell ME that my logic is flawed even though YOU clearly don't know what you're talking about is the height of misplaced arrogance.
Without getting into a lot of detail that you probably aren't that interested in anyway, the 'inducements', as you call them, eventually become so attractive that a player will nearly always accept one before reaching the end of the game, because they risk ending up with a much smaller amount.
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First off, Chris, I have nothing but respect for you. I said your logic was slightly flawed, from a probability standpoint, when I was talking about ease of play (hence, the PowerBall scenario). The crux of the argument is winning the million dollars, which is impossible once you deal (equivalent to walking away on WWTBAM). Hence, the offers aren't a consideration. Want to go for a million? Don't hit the button the entire show. Of course, it's moot once the million dollar case is out of play; then the contestant can do all the dealing he/she wants.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178788\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:05 PM\']
First off, Chris, I have nothing but respect for you.[/quote]
Appreciate that. The name's Matt.
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178788\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:05 PM\']
I said your logic was slightly flawed, from a probability standpoint, when I was talking about ease of play (hence, the PowerBall scenario).[/quote]
Well, whatever modifier you want to use is irrelevant. You were telling me I was wrong because A) you were talking about something completely different (the fact that the game is pure luck) that I had already mentioned and conceded and B) you truly didn't know yourself how the game actually works.
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178788\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:05 PM\']Want to go for a million? Don't hit the button the entire show.[/quote]
Yes, but nobody follows that "logic" any more than they would on Millionaire. "Want to go for a million? Answer every question the entire show, whether you know it or not." That's not the way either game is played.
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Easiest $1,000,000 game show?
Anything Drew Carey is involved in.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178793\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 08:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178788\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:05 PM\']
First off, Chris, I have nothing but respect for you.[/quote]
Appreciate that. The name's Matt.
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178788\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:05 PM\']
I said your logic was slightly flawed, from a probability standpoint, when I was talking about ease of play (hence, the PowerBall scenario).[/quote]
Well, whatever modifier you want to use is irrelevant. You were telling me I was wrong because A) you were talking about something completely different (the fact that the game is pure luck) that I had already mentioned and conceded and B) you truly didn't know yourself how the game actually works.
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178788\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:05 PM\']Want to go for a million? Don't hit the button the entire show.[/quote]
Yes, but nobody follows that "logic" any more than they would on Millionaire. "Want to go for a million? Answer every question the entire show, whether you know it or not." That's not the way either game is played.
[/quote]
Sorry, Matt. Got my moderators screwed up. As for the logic thing, I was talking out my ass on another vein. I thought you zigged, so I zagged, etc. I do know how the game works (pick cases, offer, hit the button or not). I was wondering how it was possible to stick with the million dollar case the entire night and not get the million. As for Millionaire, you need to know the correct answer to every question. On DoND, standing there with one's thumb up one's kiester will do the trick. I know the point of Millionaire is to answer 15 questions in a row to get to the million, while the point of DoND is to walk out of there with as much money as possible (not necessarily the million). If nobody follows the logic of never dealing, that's their bed to make. Like you said earlier, several people initally picked the right case. Following the thumb-kiester model of economics, they would have made out. I guess my point is this: winning on Millionaire is an active pursuit (if you quit/lag, you can't get the million) while winning on DoND is passive (if you deal, you can't get the million).
\Sorry again about the Chris thing. I'm doing three things at once.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178797\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:27 PM\']I was wondering how it was possible to stick with the million dollar case the entire night and not get the million.[/quote]
Hence, Matt's comment about how it's "certainly the easiest show to play", back before all the logic-flaw ridiculousness.
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toughest, "The Million Dollar Word Game"
since we never saw the last round, and since the rules seemed to be made up as they went along, I'm guessing it was something like "spell every word listed under 'm' in the dictonary"
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'178835\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:47 PM\']
I'm guessing it was something like "spell every word listed under 'm' in the dictonary"
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"E-V-E-R-Y-space-W-O-R....."
/oh you KNOW it's one "M", AND the Christopher goes BEFORE the John now, dammit
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178784\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:56 PM\']I know the general gist of the game. [/quote]You can say that all you want, but it's just not so: because you asked this:
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178778\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:38 PM\']How can you pick the million dollar case and not win the million dollars? [/quote]So you didn't know what you were talking about, and then tried to swat it away with a rhetorical dodge. Sorry, you lose.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178748\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:43 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178742\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 12:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'178741\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:33 PM\']
Mr Pibb has actually been discontinued since 2001. Its replacement is called Pibb Xtra, with a different formula than the original.[/quote]
I heard that they just renamed the original and redid the formula, kinda like with New Coke.[/quote]
Um, isn't that basically what he said?
[/quote]
No, he said discontinued. If you redo something, it's not discontinuing it.
Discontinuing means getting rid of it altogether, far as I'm concerned.
(Cue Picard if you must, it'll probably give me nightmares tonight)
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178839\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 08:10 PM\']
(Cue Picard if you must, it'll probably give me nightmares tonight)[/quote]
*sigh* No, there's really no need, I couldn't top that if I tried.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178839\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 11:10 PM\']
No, he said discontinued. If you redo something, it's not discontinuing it.
Discontinuing means getting rid of it altogether, far as I'm concerned.
[/quote]
Is there a real, substantive difference "redoing" the product with a new formula and name, and "discontinuing" the old product while replacing it with something that has a different name and formula?
No. End of story.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178797\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 07:27 PM\']As for Millionaire, you need to know the correct answer to every question. On DoND, standing there with one's thumb up one's kiester will do the trick. I know the point of Millionaire is to answer 15 questions in a row to get to the million, while the point of DoND is to walk out of there with as much money as possible (not necessarily the million). If nobody follows the logic of never dealing, that's their bed to make. [/quote]
OK, I'm breathing a little easier now, but I still think you're letting your general disdain for DoND get the better of your 'logical' argument. On pretty much any game show, the goal is to win as much money as possible. On Millionaire, once you hit a point where you don't know an answer, and you're afraid to take the gamble and go on, you leave with the money you've earned. On DoND, once you hit a point where you think the sure-thing money they're offering you is good enough, and you're afraid to take the gamble and go on, you leave with the money you've won.
If I understand you correctly (and we both know how likely THAT is...) it sounds like you're saying that a logical DoND player should never deal as long as the million dollar case is still unrevealed. But when hundreds of thousands in guaranteed money is on the line, and of course you don't know for sure that your case holds the million, that's really not a very logical thing to do at all. Even the most risk-taking players that they get to play their little game realize that.
That's why I think DoND (certainly in its regular form) is one of the hardest shows to win a million dollars on. The odds combined with the risk/reward element that is an integral part of the game, make it all but impossible. The only time anyone's even come close has been when they've jiggered the game up to make it easier to win, and it still hasn't happened. They're going to keep monkeying with it until someone does win the top prize, of course, but the odds of seeing somebody win a million on the regular game are pretty long indeed.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'178838\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 12:07 AM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178784\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:56 PM\']I know the general gist of the game. [/quote]You can say that all you want, but it's just not so: because you asked this:
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178778\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:38 PM\']How can you pick the million dollar case and not win the million dollars? [/quote]So you didn't know what you were talking about, and then tried to swat it away with a rhetorical dodge. Sorry, you lose.
[/quote]
There was nothing rhetorical or dodgy about it. I was stuck in "don't do anything after the initial pick" mode and Matt was thinking like a typical contestant. Believe it or not, it's as simple as that.
I lose? Well, you'd better send me a case of consolation Rice-A-Roni, by golly.
And Matt, I concede. Played like it's normally played, a player is less likely to walk out with a million than, say, Millionaire (provided he or she has half a brain). And to be perfectly honest, if I were on the show, I can't say with 100% certainty that I wouldn't deal if the million dollar case were still in play. Like you and everyone else said, it's the temptation aspect of the show that drives it.
And there's one local restaurant that has Mr. Pibb at the fountain.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178882\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 12:17 PM\']
and Matt was thinking like a typical contestant. [/quote]
Saying I think like a typical Deal or No Deal contestant may be the worse insult of all!
/Joke. It's a joke.
//I'm from the south. There is no such thing as Pepsi.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178891\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 01:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178882\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 12:17 PM\']
and Matt was thinking like a typical contestant. [/quote]
Saying I think like a typical Deal or No Deal contestant may be the worse insult of all!
/Joke. It's a joke.
//I'm from the south. There is no such thing as Pepsi.
[/quote]
Aww, heck, you knew what I meant.
\Pepsi is a Coke wanna-be. Always has been, always will be.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178894\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 11:52 AM\']
\Pepsi is a Coke wanna-be. Always has been, always will be.
[/quote]
it's all syrupy crap and y'all shouldn't drink any of that slop anyway! :D .. I half-way credit my losing 35 lbs to me not consuming cola since 2004 -- the place I used to work for had their soda machine rigged to give out free cans of any selection, so I was throwing down 3 or 4 a day easy.. they loaded the machine with extra mt. dew and jolt for us IT nerds, but once I cut all that out, I noticed a dramatic decrease in belly.
having that said, the "Dublin" variety of Dr. Pepper which is a special version they make at the Dublin, Texas plant is made with pure cane sugar, and they bottle it in an old style DP 2/4/10 bottle and it is by far the most fantastic dark cola one can consume (it's a close contest with RC) .. I know of only one store here that sells it, I don't even know if you can get it out of state.. too bad for me I am on the twenty-year-no-cola diet, so I can only rely on memories.. :D
btw -- in Texas, they seem to call any cola "Coke" even if it's a Pepsi.. it's the generic term for cola -- (kinda how everyone calls tissues "Kleenex" even if it's puffs -- or a copy a Xerox even if it's made with a Canon :D) ..
/I say 'soda', wife (from Minnesota) says 'pop', and that is the one thing neither of us will compromise on :p
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[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'178907\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 02:32 PM\']
having that said, the "Dublin" variety of Dr. Pepper which is a special version they make at the Dublin, Texas plant is made with pure cane sugar, and they bottle it in an old style DP 2/4/10 bottle and it is by far the most fantastic dark cola one can consume (it's a close contest with RC) .. I know of only one store here that sells it, I don't even know if you can get it out of state..
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Apparently, yes, you can (http://\"http://www.olddocs.com/results.aspx?cat=Drinks&subcat1=Dr+Pepper\"). The Int3rn3tz got everything, just as you said. :-D (I just picked up a new Dr. Pepper flavor yesterday: Cherry Chocolate Diet Dr. Pepper. Whatever's in it, I bet they're not using cane sugar!)
Meanwhile, those who like Coke with pure cane sugar have two choices. They can wait until Passover's about to arrive, since corn syrup isn't kosher for Passover and many stores start carrying Coke with cane sugar to fill the void. Or they can buy their Coke near the border with Mexico; apparently Mexican-bottled Coke also has cane sugar.
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Seems like it can vary widely from market to market... Here in Denver, some of the stores still carry Tab but you never see it anywhere else hardly.
I occasionally see TaB in the (highly overpriced) grocery store around here, but no Super Mr. Pibb Xtra Plus And Then Some. The only place I've ever seen the latter in Michigan is at one gas station on the other side of the state.
/would rather see Barq's Red Cream Soda than either of the above
//can only find that at one store around here too
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[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'178911\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 03:40 PM\']
/would rather see Barq's Red Cream Soda than either of the above
//can only find that at one store around here too
[/quote]
The first and last time I saw Barq's Red Cream Soda was in Wisconsin five years ago. I thought a friend of mine was joking when he mentioned such a thing existed, then proved me wrong when he produced a bottle.
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Well, now that this thread's apparently gone to the HFCS side...
anyone know if Coke C2 is being sold anywhere nowadays?
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'178909\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 02:38 PM\'](I just picked up a new Dr. Pepper flavor yesterday: Cherry Chocolate Diet Dr. Pepper. Whatever's in it, I bet they're not using cane sugar!)[/quote]
Or cherries or chocolate. I bought a 2-liter of it on sale a month ago. I dumped what was left of it over the weekend--2/3 of a bottle. I love Dr. Pepper, Diet Dr. Pepper, and both versions of the cherry vanilla flavor. What was in that 2-liter bottle was not Dr. Pepper.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'178916\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 02:51 PM\']
[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'178911\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 03:40 PM\']
/would rather see Barq's Red Cream Soda than either of the above
//can only find that at one store around here too
[/quote]
The first and last time I saw Barq's Red Cream Soda was in Wisconsin five years ago. I thought a friend of mine was joking when he mentioned such a thing existed, then proved me wrong when he produced a bottle.
[/quote]
It showed up once at a Citgo station in my town, and since then the stuff has been hiding in the cooler at the nearest Dollar Tree (which is an hour away; yes, I live in a void). Shame, too -- it's good stuff. Come to think of it, just finding Barq's Root Beer isn't all that easy around here, either.
/wishes Culver's would bottle their root beer, as it kicks just about every other root beer's ass
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178919\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 02:54 PM\']
Well, now that this thread's apparently gone to the HFCS side...
anyone know if Coke C2 is being sold anywhere nowadays?
[/quote]
Per Wikipedia (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_C2\"), so take it with the usual grain of salt: "An inquiry to the Coca-Cola company in February of 2007 revealed that only one bottler in the South Eastern United States still produced the product, and that it had been discontinued. However this product is still sold in Canada." The Coca-Cola Canada site makes no mention of it, so I'd bet it's gone from there too by now.
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Wiki is at least mostly correct...C2 isn't made in many places anymore, if at all. Can't vouch if it's being made by a single bottler.
Also: Black Cherry Vanilla isn't made anymore, having been replaced by Vanilla Coke. Black Cherry Vanilla replaced Vanilla Coke, too.
OBGS: Just like $25K Pyramid and Blackout!
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'178909\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 01:38 PM\']
Meanwhile, those who like Coke with pure cane sugar have two choices. They can wait until Passover's about to arrive, since corn syrup isn't kosher for Passover and many stores start carrying Coke with cane sugar to fill the void. Or they can buy their Coke near the border with Mexico; apparently Mexican-bottled Coke also has cane sugar.
[/quote]
indeedey, that is true -- they sell 'em in those huge recycled bottles (un litro!) and they're SO recycled (how recycled are they??) that their labels are practically worn off .. it's one of those fun quirks about visiting the border towns (alongside getting $3 bottles of pure vanilla and $5 bottles of pure kahlua :D) but the "Mexican Coke" has started to appear in our mexican grocery stores as far north as here in Fort Worff (7 hour drive from the border) and perhaps beyond .. they do taste better, but people have this strange argument that soda (and beer) tastes better when consumed out of a bottle..
/never thought I'd be saying the phrase "Mexican Coke" in a game show forum..
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'178909\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 02:38 PM\']
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'178907\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 02:32 PM\']
having that said, the "Dublin" variety of Dr. Pepper which is a special version they make at the Dublin, Texas plant is made with pure cane sugar, and they bottle it in an old style DP 2/4/10 bottle and it is by far the most fantastic dark cola one can consume (it's a close contest with RC) .. I know of only one store here that sells it, I don't even know if you can get it out of state..
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Apparently, yes, you can (http://\"http://www.olddocs.com/results.aspx?cat=Drinks&subcat1=Dr+Pepper\"). The Int3rn3tz got everything, just as you said. :-D (I just picked up a new Dr. Pepper flavor yesterday: Cherry Chocolate Diet Dr. Pepper. Whatever's in it, I bet they're not using cane sugar!)
Meanwhile, those who like Coke with pure cane sugar have two choices. They can wait until Passover's about to arrive, since corn syrup isn't kosher for Passover and many stores start carrying Coke with cane sugar to fill the void. Or they can buy their Coke near the border with Mexico; apparently Mexican-bottled Coke also has cane sugar.
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Mexican-bottled Coke can also be found in many Mexican supermarkets and Mexican restaurants, sometimes quite far from the border. I know of a Mexican place here in Albany that sells assorted Mexican sodas including Coke.
There is also a third choice: In many parts of Canada, Coke (and Pepsi) are still bottled with cane sugar. I know Quebec and British Columbia bottle it with cane sugar, Ontario doesn't, and the Maritimes are a crap shoot.
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You can buy Pepsi/Coke/Tab/some stange stuff online. Go to :Sodapop.com (http://\"http://www.sodapop.com\").
Charles
PS...Easiest: DoND
Hardest: $1.98 Pagent
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' post=\'178766\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 06:50 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'178755\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 03:59 PM\']
Wow...that's weird. There's Pibb in every grocery store in my area. Stocked some today, even.
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Seems like it can vary widely from market to market... Here in Denver, some of the stores still carry Tab but you never see it anywhere else hardly.
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I'm now a "Pop" man living in a "soda" world in the Rockies as well. Another long lost brand, Fresca, is also readily available in CO. The ones I wonder if they still exist are Hires Root Beer and Teem.
Also in Colorado:
Traffic Circles are Roundabouts,
Expressways are Freeways,
and I-225 in Denver is also known as 2 and a Quarter.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'178971\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 07:22 PM\']
Another long lost brand, Fresca, is also readily available in CO.[/quote]
Fresca, long lost? Not so much. It's been around as long as I can remember, and it's regularly stocked in the coolers at Microsoft.
/and it's the official drink of Tichu!
//http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5874/judgesmells5caet7.jpg
///does not approve
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If you find an old favorite you thought they didn't make anymore, check the date... The last time I found Budwine in a store, around 2000-2001 or so, I thought, "Great! Haven't had one of those in ages!" and bought the last 6-pack. And it was the nastiest stuff I've ever intentionally put in my mouth. Apparently it *was* the last, the very last, because it turns out they quit making it in 1995.
On the bright side, I now know that that Ingle's doesn't do so well about rotating stock...
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'178971\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 10:22 PM\']
I'm now a "Pop" man living in a "soda" world in the Rockies as well. Another long lost brand, Fresca, is also readily available in CO. The ones I wonder if they still exist are Hires Root Beer and Teem.
Also in Colorado:
Traffic Circles are Roundabouts,
Expressways are Freeways,
and I-225 in Denver is also known as 2 and a Quarter.
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Fresca is pretty much national again. I have at least one a day.
At least the people in Denver are finally calling their highways by numbers. When I lived out there, it was pretty much by their names.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178973\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 10:30 PM\']
Fresca, long lost? Not so much. It's been around as long as I can remember, and it's regularly stocked in the coolers at Microsoft.
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That's interesting. Fresca isn't a hot seller, but there's usually someone who will buy up five or six at a time.
And just to throw the maybe "forgotten" brands out there: Tab, (Mr.) Pibb (Xtra), Barqs, Barqs Red Creme Soda, Mello Yello (maybe), and Caffeine Free Coke (not diet).
And if those are forgotten, we are currently blessed with such wonderfuls as Diet Coke with Lime, Diet Coke+ (with minerals...insert 'it's more than Diet Coke' joke here) and the understandably needed but odd Diet Coke with Splenda.
My favorite? Sprite Remix...Sprite with some other flavors. Long gone, though.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'179054\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 04:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178973\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 10:30 PM\']
Fresca, long lost? Not so much. It's been around as long as I can remember, and it's regularly stocked in the coolers at Microsoft.
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That's interesting. Fresca isn't a hot seller, but there's usually someone who will buy up five or six at a time.
And just to throw the maybe "forgotten" brands out there: Tab, (Mr.) Pibb (Xtra), Barqs, Barqs Red Creme Soda, Mello Yello (maybe), and Caffeine Free Coke (not diet).
And if those are forgotten, we are currently blessed with such wonderfuls as Diet Coke with Lime, Diet Coke+ (with minerals...insert 'it's more than Diet Coke' joke here) and the understandably needed but odd Diet Coke with Splenda.
My favorite? Sprite Remix...Sprite with some other flavors. Long gone, though.
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If you go to sodafinder.com (http://\"http://www.sodafinder.com\"), they have a vast majority of long-forgotten or discontinued sodas (drinkable, but at your own risk).
But $600 for a 12-pack of Pibb is a bit rich for my blood.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'178971\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 10:22 PM\']
Traffic Circles are Roundabouts,
Expressways are Freeways,
and I-225 in Denver is also known as 2 and a Quarter.
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Since we've strayed so far - I just moved here from Iowa about 6 months ago, so I'm a "pop" man too. But it took me 3 months to figure out what "the mousetrap" was. (I-25 and I-70 interchange).
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'179051\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 05:46 PM\']
At least the people in Denver are finally calling their highways by numbers. When I lived out there, it was pretty much by their names.
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The only freeways that I have ever known in Denver that ever had a name was US 36 between Denver and Boulder, aka the "Boulder Turnpike", and Pena Boulevard, which connects I-70 to Denver International Airport.
Then there's the E-470 and the C-470 debacle, which should all just be called I-470.
OBG Game Shows: Frostie Root Beer, another forgotten favorite, was one of a select few soft drinks that was ever given away as a Game Show Consolation Prize.
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[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' post=\'179045\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 03:22 PM\']
If you find an old favorite you thought they didn't make anymore, check the date... The last time I found Budwine in a store, around 2000-2001 or so, I thought, "Great! Haven't had one of those in ages!" and bought the last 6-pack. And it was the nastiest stuff I've ever intentionally put in my mouth. Apparently it *was* the last, the very last, because it turns out they quit making it in 1995.
On the bright side, I now know that that Ingle's doesn't do so well about rotating stock...
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A joke I made once: I don't wanna say the soda in this machine is old, but you know how they put the game schedules on some cans? Well, mine has the schedule for the St. Louis Browns.
They became the Baltimore Orioles in 1954.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'179101\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 11:14 PM\']
A joke I made once: I don't wanna say the soda in this machine is old, but you know how they put the game schedules on some cans? Well, mine has the schedule for the St. Louis Browns.
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Seriously, though, I've drank pop around Thanksgiving with Super Bowl advertising on the cans (that year's, not next year's). You can definitely tell the difference.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'179101\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 10:14 PM\']
A joke I made once: I don't wanna say the soda in this machine is old, but you know how they put the game schedules on some cans? Well, mine has the schedule for the St. Louis Browns.
They became the Baltimore Orioles in 1954.
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This is what happens when you tell a bad joke. (http://\"http://radio.weblogs.com/0001015/images/2002/01/29/worf.gif\")
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'178971\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 10:22 PM\']The ones I wonder if they still exist are Hires Root Beer[/quote]It does. I have some in my fridge right now.
Expressways are Freeways
In Iowa (and I think, technically anywhere)Expressway refers to a road that is multi-lane divided, but has at-grade intersections, while a freeway does not. (Yeah, I'm a 'roadgeek'. What of it?)
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'179108\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 10:49 PM\']In Iowa (and I think, technically anywhere)Expressway refers to a road that is multi-lane divided, but has at-grade intersections, while a freeway does not. (Yeah, I'm a 'roadgeek'. What of it?)[/quote]
Wikipedia (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressway\") has a very specifically referenced source that says the federal government agrees with you. I dare say that the general public, though, uses both terms more or less interchangeably.
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has this thread officially gone far enough off-topic?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'179112\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 08:10 PM\']
I dare say that the general public, though, uses both terms more or less interchangeably.
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Really? Nowhere I've lived. In the areas I've lived there has always been a very distinct difference between the two.
That said, it took me several years living here before I figured out that the Mukilteo Speedway wasn't a racetrack.
/always thought roadgeeks had the best reason to hold their heads high
//Because what they know is actually useful information
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'179122\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 11:32 PM\']
has this thread officially gone far enough off-topic?
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I once ate barracuda while in Trinidad.
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'179122\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 12:32 AM\']
has this thread officially gone far enough off-topic?[/quote]Eh, who cares? Once in awhile, a little diversion from game shows doesn't hurt. The hamburger thread from a few months ago is a good example too.
I'm sure if the mods cared, they would have locked this by now.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'179143\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 10:09 AM\']I'm sure if the mods cared, they would have locked this by now.[/quote]
As long as people don't get pissy with each other, threads going astray is one of the natural phenomena of a message board. I'll admit that while I was arguing with Dale over DoND nuances, it was a pain to slog through all the sugar-water posts, but I'm not going to artificially control the nature of perfectly civil conversations.
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As someone who is trying to wean himself off pop, this conversation is really eroding my willpower... ;-)
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[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179137\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 08:55 AM\'][quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'179122\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 11:32 PM\']has this thread officially gone far enough off-topic?[/quote]
I once ate barracuda while in Trinidad.[/quote]
What type of soda or pop goes best with barracuda? Does Trinidad have any freeways or expressways? Do they have any million dollar game shows in Trinidad?
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'179154\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 10:40 AM\']
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179137\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 08:55 AM\'][quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'179122\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 11:32 PM\']has this thread officially gone far enough off-topic?[/quote]
I once ate barracuda while in Trinidad.[/quote]
What type of soda or pop goes best with barracuda? Does Trinidad have any freeways or expressways? Do they have any million dollar game shows in Trinidad?
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ObGameShows: When Alex Trebek and Pat Sajak switched jobs, the FJ was FAMOUS TRINIDADIAN ICHTHYOLOGISTS.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'179154\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 10:40 AM\']
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179137\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 08:55 AM\'][quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'179122\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 11:32 PM\']has this thread officially gone far enough off-topic?[/quote]
I once ate barracuda while in Trinidad.[/quote]
What type of soda or pop goes best with barracuda? Does Trinidad have any freeways or expressways? Do they have any million dollar game shows in Trinidad?
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They have a version of their national beer called Carib Shandy, and it seriously tastes like Big Red (the soda not the gum) :D ..used to be available in the states, but I've been told they don't import Carib anymore.
Trinidad has many two-lane and single lane roads and locals seem not to be too concerned with which side of the road to ride on.
While there one of the days had torrential rain, so we did chill inside and scan the TV selection, I remember they had GSN (this was back in 1999 -- before I got it here in the states) and watched that horrible Peck 3's a Crowd a couple of times. They seemed to have some sort of NBC deal that we've seen in other countries where they run older (but seemingly only NBC) shows such as older eps of Friends and the Cosby Show. The only Trini-related TV content seemed to be local news. No million dollar shows (at the time) :( but if there were any, $1m TTD (Trinidad/Tobago dollars, not the *other* ttd :d ) would be about $115,000 USD. Lots and lots of steel drums.
a carib game show would be awesome, but i've never heard of any..
/yassee how even in off-topic tangents we come full circle here? :p
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[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179168\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 01:45 PM\']
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'179154\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 10:40 AM\']
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179137\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 08:55 AM\'][quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'179122\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 11:32 PM\']has this thread officially gone far enough off-topic?[/quote]
I once ate barracuda while in Trinidad.[/quote]
[What type of soda or pop goes best with barracuda? Does Trinidad have any freeways or expressways? Do they have any million dollar game shows in Trinidad?
[/quote]Trinidad has many two-lane and single lane roads and locals seem not to be too concerned with which side of the road to ride on. [/quote]
Whoosh.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'179154\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 11:40 AM\'][quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'179137\' date=\'Feb 27 2008, 08:55 AM\'][quote name='narzo' post='179122' I once ate barracuda while in Trinidad.[/quote]What type of soda or pop goes best with barracuda? Does Trinidad have any freeways or expressways? Do they have any million dollar game shows in Trinidad?
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Anybody got Mike's cell number? Somebody oughta let him know Zach got into his house this morning.
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A topical bump: I spoke with some of my higher-ups about the Dr. Pepper thing. Here's the answer: Dr. Pepper is "universal", meaning it can be carried by Pepsi or Coke, and can be sold alongside Coke or Pepsi at a fountain. Apparently if your area doesn't have Pibb, Coke probably carries Dr. Pepper.