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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: xavier45 on February 05, 2008, 09:40:06 PM
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During Feud at 9:00pm, GSN ran an ad for a new interactive program called "GSN Live". The commercial went by really fast, but here is what I saw.
The promo says the show will begin on February 25th at 12pm. It also says "The show is not ready yet", "Less Commercials", and "more prizes coming". From this I have a feeling that this could be interstitial programming that will be between shows commerical breaks.
That is really all I could see. If it is interstitial programming, I would not mind. To me, that is what Playmania should have always been.
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[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'177230\' date=\'Feb 5 2008, 09:40 PM\']
During Feud at 9:00pm, GSN ran an ad for a new interactive program called "GSN Live". The commercial went by really fast, but here is what I saw.
The promo says the show will begin on February 25th at 9am. It also says "Less Commercials". From this I have a feeling that this could be interstitial programming that will be between shows commerical breaks.
That is really all I could see. If it is interstitial programming, I would not mind. To me, that is what Playmania should have always been.
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Almost sounds like a remake of the short-lived USA Live (which replaced all the remaining game shows), except with call-in and lose breaks. Am I not too far off?
Tyshaun
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It almost makes me wonder if we'll be going back to the shows starting at 9:10, 9:40, 10:20, etc...Like "back in the day"..
/I used "back in the day" to describe GSN
//Someone shoot me
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No kidding. We grew up wondering what it would be like to have an all-game show channel, and now there are people out there who can't remember a time when there *wasn't* one.
/And I sure never imagined I could easily go weeks without watching it
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I'm 22. Not only can I remember a time when there wasn't GSN (as it came on my cable provider junior year of HS) I can remember a time when I didn't have a computer (elementary school; I used an electric WP/typewriter)
I feel old approximately 4 times a week.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'177287\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 12:30 PM\']
I'm 22. Not only can I remember a time when there wasn't GSN (as it came on my cable provider junior year of HS) I can remember a time when I didn't have a computer (elementary school; I used an electric WP/typewriter)
I feel old approximately 4 times a week.
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I'm 18, and I remember waking up December 1, 1994 and seeing Password for the first time in my life.
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'177339\' date=\'Feb 7 2008, 12:07 PM\']
I'm 18, and I remember waking up December 1, 1994 and seeing Password for the first time in my life.
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You are one of the lucky ones...I didn't get to see GSN on a regular basis until about two years after that...
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'177355\' date=\'Feb 7 2008, 03:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'177339\' date=\'Feb 7 2008, 12:07 PM\']
I'm 18, and I remember waking up December 1, 1994 and seeing Password for the first time in my life.
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You are one of the lucky ones...I didn't get to see GSN on a regular basis until about two years after that...
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That's still 10 years before me.
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I saw this promo too today during the noon hour while on my lunch break @ work. I can only imagine what the cryptic messages in the commercial mean.
My guess that the "Less Commercials" bit would be either:
A) This GSN Live show is nothing more than a daytime re-tooling of Playmania with fewer commercials stop downs (Truthfully I thought Playmania had fewer commercials per hour than what they would run during whatever stock programming they had).
or
B) GSN Live is a intersertial as previously mentioned with the "Less Commercials" being the replacement of two to four commercial breaks per hour with the GSN Live segments being sponsored by (INSERT RANDOM PRODUCT OR SERVICE NAME HERE) so that GSN can make up the commercial revenue with sponsor driven segments.
I'm hoping for intersertials. Since GSN is really the only "Decent" entertainment based channel we're allowed to have in our break room at work, I kinda look forward to getting to watch Super Password while I'm eating my lunch.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'177283\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 11:23 AM\']
No kidding. We grew up wondering what it would be like to have an all-game show channel, and now there are people out there who can't remember a time when there *wasn't* one.
/And I sure never imagined I could easily go weeks without watching it
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Or those who can't remember a time when there were no game show reruns on cable at all.
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Here's a complete transcription of the commercial, nothing but black text on the "GSN blue/green" background:
It's new... It's live...
...so there's no show - yet.
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you're gonna love it.
GSNlive
premiering february 25 - noon eastern / 9 pacific
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If you were worried about this show, I would not be anymore. http://buzzerblog.com/ (http://\"http://buzzerblog.com/\") has more info on it!
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It indeed is a revival of USA Live, just themed around game shows. Sounds good...... I wonder if they're gonna cut one of the shows from the Noon-3 block?
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'177627\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 12:19 AM\']
It indeed is a revival of USA Live, just themed around game shows. Sounds good...... I wonder if they're gonna cut one of the shows from the Noon-3 block?
Tyshaun
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I don't think they will. If I'm right, I believe both west coast and east coast will have the same shows; it's just that east coast viewers will have Super Password, Family Feud, Match Game, Card Sharks, Jeopardy, and Password Plus from 12PM-3PM, while west coast viewers will have the same shows, but from 9AM-12PM.
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This is what GSN SHOULD'VE done instead of the dreck that was Playmania. It sounds like a good idea whose time has come even before Playmania was even considered. If only I had GSN on my regular analog lineup before it disappeared on me without warning last summer(thanks alot Comcast!).
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Fred Roggin is involved, so it will suck by default.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'177639\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 04:32 AM\']
Fred Roggin is involved, so it will suck by default.[/quote]
But departing guests will at least get to enjoy a fresh loaf of bread.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'177676\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 02:42 PM\']
But departing guests will at least get to enjoy a fresh loaf of bread.
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Grr... Must get Canadian proxy setup by 2010.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'177628\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 12:32 AM\']
I don't think they will. If I'm right, I believe both west coast and east coast will have the same shows; it's just that east coast viewers will have Super Password, Family Feud, Match Game, Card Sharks, Jeopardy, and Password Plus from 12PM-3PM, while west coast viewers will have the same shows, but from 9AM-12PM.
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No, the schedules will be changed so that the particular block will run simultaneously on both feeds.
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'177639\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 07:32 AM\']
Fred Roggin is involved, so it will suck by default.
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So they hired Heidi Bohay - you remember her from 80's Pyramid - for balance. Good job, GSN.
/she's still married to that Spound guy
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[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'177230\' date=\'Feb 5 2008, 09:40 PM\']
During Feud at 9:00pm, GSN ran an ad for a new interactive program called "GSN Live". The commercial went by really fast, but here is what I saw.
The promo says the show will begin on February 25th at 12pm. It also says "The show is not ready yet", "Less Commercials", and "more prizes coming". From this I have a feeling that this could be interstitial programming that will be between shows commerical breaks.
That is really all I could see. If it is interstitial programming, I would not mind. To me, that is what Playmania should have always been.
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What game shows do we expect to see on GSN Live?
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[quote name=\'trev17ian\' post=\'178045\' date=\'Feb 17 2008, 06:49 AM\']
What game shows do we expect to see on GSN Live?
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Everything on the schedule remains the same.
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Everything on the schedule remains the same.
Steve Beverly mentioned on his site that GSN is looking for past contestants on shows either on the GSN schedule, or in the GSN library. I'm thinking that when they get a few for interviews, they could actually air their episode during GSN Live, instead of the regularly-scheduled program. That way they'd pull stuff out of "the vault" once in a while.
Could happen...
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'178116\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 12:09 PM\'] I'm thinking that when they get a few for interviews, they could actually air their episode during GSN Live, instead of the regularly-scheduled program. That way they'd pull stuff out of "the vault" once in a while.
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Paging contestants of Go. Contestants of Go to the white courtesy phone please. Thank you.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'178121\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 10:40 AM\']
Paging contestants of Go. Contestants of Go to the white courtesy phone please. Thank you.
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White? I'm thinking it would need to be red or blue for them to know where to go. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178126\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 02:24 PM\']
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'178121\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 10:40 AM\']
Paging contestants of Go. Contestants of Go to the white courtesy phone please. Thank you.
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White? I'm thinking it would need to be red or blue for them to know where to go. :)
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No, the white phone!
God I love Airplane!
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[quote name=\'daveromanjr\' post=\'178155\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 05:30 PM\']
No, the white phone!
God I love Airplane!
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I know what you really mean by that!
\ObGameShow: Airplane 2 featured a quickie involving the passenegers' lives being in jeopardy.
ETA: Wait, one or both of us confused the colored phones with the colored zones.
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Paging Dan Avila! They could have a field day with him - Joker's Wild, Break the Bank, Greed - plus probably a couple of other goodies in GSN's holdings. How many shows was he on again? :)
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Phyllis Harris would also be an obvious choice, with Card Sharks, Greed, Trivia Trap, Millionaire and even Grand Slam to her credit. She did Wheel as well, but I don't know whether GSN has access to her appearance there.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178174\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 09:15 PM\']
[A]nd even Grand Slam to her credit.
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Honestly, why not go for a reunion of sorts? Perhaps not every single contestant (for example, Ogi Ogas-does GSN even own the daytime Millionaire?), but a few of the bigger winners, i.e. Dan, Phyllis, Thom McK.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'178116\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 01:09 PM\']in the GSN library. [/quote]...and magically, Tom Parks starts to earn residuals.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'178164\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 07:52 PM\']
Paging Dan Avila! They could have a field day with him - Joker's Wild, Break the Bank, Greed - plus probably a couple of other goodies in GSN's holdings. How many shows was he on again? :)
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Don't know the exact number, but I know Dan also did Jeopardy & Hollywood Connection. And I'm sure we're all clamoring to see Hollywood Connection again! (Just me? Really?)
He also did $ale of the Century, but I know GSN couldn't access that.
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'178185\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 11:26 PM\']Don't know the exact number, but I know Dan also did Jeopardy & Hollywood Connection. And I'm sure we're all clamoring to see Hollywood Connection again! (Just me? Really?)[/quote]
I'm wondering whether shows like that and Diamond Head are ones that GSN still has unfettered access to and just chooses not to run because of their perceived worthlessness, or whether they're now tied up in Sony red tape.
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'178185\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 11:26 PM\']He also did $ale of the Century, but I know GSN couldn't access that.[/quote]
And Phyllis did Scrabble, so if they get one, they'll get 'em both!
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178187\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 10:55 PM\']
I'm wondering whether shows like that and Diamond Head are ones that GSN still has unfettered access to and just chooses not to run because of their perceived worthlessness, or whether they're now tied up in Sony red tape.
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I've been lead to believe for a while now that the issues involved there were never related to Sony so much as GSN being far more thrifty than they were in the past. It'd also help to explain why GSN was always jumping seasons with shows like Wheel, Jeopardy, TTD, TJW, etc over the years, and why they never ran anything other than 1982-83 for $25,000 Pyramid through 2001. Apparently at some point they noticed they could get comparable numbers running the same 150-200 episodes of a show from one given season repeatedly compared to running multiple seasons
If GSN seems half as sincere about, you know, giving a rat's ass about it's programming as they want folks to think they are now this is one thing I'd definitely like to see changed. I'd love to see 80s and 90s Jeopardy, 80s Newlywed Game again - and while Tic Tac Dough and Wheel of Fortune are still fresh, if they continue to run the shows respective 1979-80 and 1994-95 seasons a year or two down the road, through a few cycles - they'll be just as uninteresting as Jeopardy and Newlywed are now.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'178194\' date=\'Feb 19 2008, 05:10 AM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'178187\' date=\'Feb 18 2008, 10:55 PM\']
I'm wondering whether shows like that and Diamond Head are ones that GSN still has unfettered access to and just chooses not to run because of their perceived worthlessness, or whether they're now tied up in Sony red tape.
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I've been lead to believe for a while now that the issues involved there were never related to Sony so much as GSN being far more thrifty than they were in the past. It'd also help to explain why GSN was always jumping seasons with shows like Wheel, Jeopardy, TTD, TJW, etc over the years, and why they never ran anything other than 1982-83 for $25,000 Pyramid through 2001. Apparently at some point they noticed they could get comparable numbers running the same 150-200 episodes of a show from one given season repeatedly compared to running multiple seasons
If GSN seems half as sincere about, you know, giving a rat's ass about it's programming as they want folks to think they are now this is one thing I'd definitely like to see changed. I'd love to see 80s and 90s Jeopardy, 80s Newlywed Game again - and while Tic Tac Dough and Wheel of Fortune are still fresh, if they continue to run the shows respective 1979-80 and 1994-95 seasons a year or two down the road, through a few cycles - they'll be just as uninteresting as Jeopardy and Newlywed are now.
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I know, man. I've had enough of this stupid policy. It's gone on for far too long, and enough is enough.
And I don't know how the ratings for $25K Pyramid were like the last time it was on GSN, but I hope they weren't any worse than the ratings for the same 1986-1987 season of the $100K version.
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178201\' date=\'Feb 19 2008, 08:01 AM\']I know, man. I've had enough of this stupid policy. It's gone on for far too long, and enough is enough.[/quote]I don't know what the particulars are of why TPTB do what they do, but there's a reason for that.
I suspect that reason is for every message like this, they're getting a thousand times more channel surfers who are flipping over, seeing the Match Game crew, and having a nostalgia kick, no matter what year the show is from.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'178275\' date=\'Feb 19 2008, 11:16 PM\']
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178201\' date=\'Feb 19 2008, 08:01 AM\']I know, man. I've had enough of this stupid policy. It's gone on for far too long, and enough is enough.[/quote]I don't know what the particulars are of why TPTB do what they do, but there's a reason for that.
I suspect that reason is for every message like this, they're getting a thousand times more channel surfers who are flipping over, seeing the Match Game crew, and having a nostalgia kick, no matter what year the show is from.
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QFT, Travis.
There's a lot more to be indignant about in today's world than the channel lineup on GSN and what they show from their lineup.
I may not like it, I may bitch about it, but I'm not going to get anywhere near the level that gameshowlover87 has with my anger.
Hey, gameshowlover, read your local paper. Turn on the TV. Listen to your radio. There's a lot more stupid bullcrap going on in the world that you should care about.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178294\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 01:36 AM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'178275\' date=\'Feb 19 2008, 11:16 PM\']
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178201\' date=\'Feb 19 2008, 08:01 AM\']I know, man. I've had enough of this stupid policy. It's gone on for far too long, and enough is enough.[/quote]I don't know what the particulars are of why TPTB do what they do, but there's a reason for that.
I suspect that reason is for every message like this, they're getting a thousand times more channel surfers who are flipping over, seeing the Match Game crew, and having a nostalgia kick, no matter what year the show is from.
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Hey, gameshowlover, read your local paper. Turn on the TV. Listen to your radio. There's a lot more stupid bullcrap going on in the world that you should care about.
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I'd rather watch GSN than watch, listen, and read about today's bullcrap.
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178295\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 01:43 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178294\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 01:36 AM\']
Hey, gameshowlover, read your local paper. Turn on the TV. Listen to your radio. There's a lot more stupid bullcrap going on in the world that you should care about.
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I'd rather watch GSN than watch, listen, and read about today's bullcrap.
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You'd rather watch it, or you'd rather complain about it?
You're relatively new to our board, so you probably don't know about this yet: GSN is a business, which means that it exists to make money. When you run a business, you need to do what's likely to make you the most money possible. If that means leasing only one season of a particular show at any one time because it costs less than getting the whole run at once, that's what GSN is going to do. If it means showing the same episodes on weekends that run during the week, that's what GSN is going to do. If it means not having as many classic shows on the schedule as some of us would like, that's what GSN is going to do.
Having more classics, or more episodes of the classics, definitely would be nice. But as Mr. Eberle pointed out (and as others have pointed out before him), most people don't notice. Some of us notice, because we're the hardcore fans — but if GSN spends its efforts and money appealing only to us, it won't be around for much longer because there simply aren't enough of us to matter in the grand scheme of things.
If GSN's executives could make more money for the network with more classics, or more episodes of the classic shows they have, they'd do it in a heartbeat, because most of them are fans of the classics themselves. But it doesn't, so they don't.
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In other words, what might be rerun-abused to one viewer, may not be rerun-abused to another viewer.
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178319\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 09:57 AM\']
In other words, what might be rerun-abused to one viewer, may not be rerun-abused to another viewer.
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That's one way to put it, yes. Most of GSN's viewers don't watch enough of the network day in and day out to notice that some of the shows have been rerun, re-rerun, and re-re-rerun.
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I see where they're coming from, but would it kill them to ditch the current season of J! for something from 15-20 years ago? I don't watch GSN to reminisce about 2002! :)
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178295\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 01:43 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178294\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 01:36 AM\']
Hey, gameshowlover, read your local paper. Turn on the TV. Listen to your radio. There's a lot more stupid bullcrap going on in the world that you should care about.
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I'd rather watch GSN than watch, listen, and read about today's bullcrap.
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And that's exactly why my hope for the world declines every day. Comments like that.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'178329\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 12:33 PM\']
I see where they're coming from, but would it kill them to ditch the current season of J! for something from 15-20 years ago? I don't watch GSN to reminisce about 2002! :)[/quote]
You do realize that what you're saying here is "I completely understand your argument, but they should do what I want them to do anyway, regardless of the fact that it costs them more money"?
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178337\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 01:17 PM\']
And that's exactly why my hope for the world declines every day. Comments like that.
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Why not just go to the GSN board and get rid of that hope once and for all? ;-)
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178319\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 06:57 AM\']
In other words, what might be rerun-abused to one viewer, may not be rerun-abused to another viewer.
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More specifically, what might be rerun-abuse to one viewer, is very likely not rerun-abuse to MANY MANY THOUSANDS OF VIEWERS.
You own a TV network specializing in game shows. You can put together a program library that can appease a certain audience, or, at significantly greater expense, you can put together a program library that appeases that same audience plus a very very small number (as in, unmeasurable by Nielsen standards) of additional viewers.
Oh, and those viewers who are upset that the first library isn't targeted to them? Most of them are WATCHING ANYHOW.
What are you going to do?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178352\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 03:00 PM\']What are you going to do?
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Absolutely nothing?
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178357\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 12:15 PM\']
Absolutely nothing?
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Right. That tells me everything I need to know.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'178307\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 03:31 AM\']Having more classics, or more episodes of the classics, definitely would be nice. But as Mr. Eberle pointed out (and as others have pointed out before him), most people don't notice. Some of us notice, because we're the hardcore fans — but if GSN spends its efforts and money appealing only to us, it won't be around for much longer because there simply aren't enough of us to matter in the grand scheme of things.
If GSN's executives could make more money for the network with more classics, or more episodes of the classic shows they have, they'd do it in a heartbeat, because most of them are fans of the classics themselves. But it doesn't, so they don't.[/quote]I live to serve. My original draft was going to ask our fellow game show lover to put up the coin so GSN could lease the proper seasons of Pyramid.
I don't understand: It doesn't take that many synapses to understand that GSN is a business, and not a charity channel for the game show fans. And yet we get people who say "GSN should do this," "why do they constantly run the same old stuff," and the thing that really frosts my birthday cake, "rerun-abuse."
I have two guesses: either we're being tweaked by someone who really knows better, but thinks it's fun to watch us react to his pitching a hissy, or more likely, it's some youngster still living at home, who is used to Mommy giving him whatever he wants with the bat of an eyelash, and the notion of the 'real' world is foreign to him. Which is too bad, unless he already has "Would you like fries with that?" memorized.
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178295\' date=\'Feb 19 2008, 10:43 PM\']I'd rather watch GSN than watch, listen, and read about today's bullcrap.[/quote]Seeing this, I think it's the latter. Someone who would complain about the state of GSN but STILL WATCH ALL THE SAME is showing the paragon of irrationality, and should be taken seriously at the same level as your average teenager.
To gameshowlover87, grow up. Read a newspaper. Go outside and interact with the world. You'll be better for it.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'178409\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 12:50 AM\']
I don't understand: It doesn't take that many synapses to understand that GSN is a business, and not a charity channel for the game show fans. And yet we get people who say "GSN should do this," "why do they constantly run the same old stuff," and the thing that really frosts my birthday cake, "rerun-abuse."[/quote]
Truth. I mean, yeah, I may bitch and you may bitch about certain things they have run or don't have-maybe not to the degree gslover does, but you know what? We (and probably most of the others here) have enough sense in our heads to know that GSN isn't going to bend to our whims and to demand that they do so is pointless. (Besides, I think we know what would happen if any one of us was put in charge of programming there...pure, unadulterated anarchy. ;))
It comes back to an old saying that I think applies here: IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE WATCHING, CHANGE THE CHANNEL. And maybe even further I can add another point: a major outlet, whether it be television network or newspaper, is not going to care what one person thinks. (Re: a discussion I had with someone over high school football coverage in New Jersey. They said to me that they would try to organize a boycott of the paper being criticized. I said that they wouldn't care- it wouldn't make enough of a dent in their readership to matter. When the guy countered with 'if enough do it, they might take notice,' I said, "if you're only buying the paper for the high school sports coverage then you seriously need to consider why you're buying the paper in the first place." I also brought up the fact that the paper has one of the largest circulations in the country-15th in 2006, I couldn't find any more current data- and he shut right up.)
I have two guesses: either we're being tweaked by someone who really knows better, but thinks it's fun to watch us react to his pitching a hissy, or more likely, it's some youngster still living at home, who is used to Mommy giving him whatever he wants with the bat of an eyelash, and the notion of the 'real' world is foreign to him. Which is too bad, unless he already has "Would you like fries with that?" memorized.
I would use a word that rhymes with "Dole," but I don't think that it really applies. I'd lean more towards the former, to tell you the truth.
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178295\' date=\'Feb 19 2008, 10:43 PM\']I'd rather watch GSN than watch, listen, and read about today's bullcrap.
Seeing this, I think it's the latter. Someone who would complain about the state of GSN but STILL WATCH ALL THE SAME is showing the paragon of irrationality, and should be taken seriously at the same level as your average teenager.
To gameshowlover87, grow up. Read a newspaper. Go outside and interact with the world. You'll be better for it.
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Cheers, Travis. I wish I said it better the first time, but he obviously didn't get it and probably still won't.
gameshowlover87, there's a place for you. It's called the GSN Forums. Use them.
(BTW, David...appreciated the joke before, but my point still is the same. People talk about how the American public doesn't seem to care about what's going on in the world...it's not because they don't know, it's because they don't want to know. And they don't care.
And I think perhaps it's time to take this discussion in another direction because I don't think anything more can come from it that's good.)
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178412\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 02:03 AM\']
gameshowlover87, there's a place for you. It's called the GSN Forums. Use them.
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He does, and believe me it is the same thing over there. I like to call him "The Impossible Questionaire", because almost all of his posts are questions that Randy West would not even be able to answer.
I think mostly everything was said here. I just want to add one more thing about this so-called "Rerun Abuse". When GSN aired the Pyramid marathon this past New Year's, every single episode was new to me. And lots of people say that the 86-87 season was abused. I don't see how because I didn't see that many episodes from it. As someone said "What is rerun abused to one person, is not rerun abused for the other".
And I think perhaps it's time to take this discussion in another direction because I don't think anything more can come from it that's good.)
And I have some not so great news. According to the Perf, Wink Martindale was told after rehearsals of Live that "There would not be enough time for interviews." So there will not be any Wink, Monty, or Marshall in GSN Live's Future, for now.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178412\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 02:03 AM\']
(BTW, David...appreciated the joke before, but my point still is the same. People talk about how the American public doesn't seem to care about what's going on in the world...it's not because they don't know, it's because they don't want to know. And they don't care.
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This part I actually can understand to some extent. When pretty much every politician in Washington, DC is an idiot, a sleazeball, or both — and everything that goes on in the world is described based on what those idiots and sleazeballs think of it — it's not hard to see why people stop caring.
But there is a world of difference between "I don't care what's going on in the news" and "I don't care about anything that goes on outside GSN." And what we're seeing here is clearly the latter.
[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'178422\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 08:28 AM\']
As someone said "What is rerun abused to one person, is not rerun abused for the other".
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And again, the larger point is that it's not "rerun abused" for the vast majority of those who watch GSN. They don't know what "rerun abuse" means, they don't care, and they don't notice that the shows have been rerun multiple times. And as Chris correctly noted, the few people who do notice and whine about "rerun abuse" watch it anyway. So why would GSN change what it's doing?
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I apologize for coming off as a jerk on these boards.
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178425\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 10:09 AM\']
Look, I apologize for coming off as a jerk on these boards. Can we please get this thread back on topic?
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As we like to say around here, fixed that for you.
A snotty apology really doesn't score you a lot of points on this board.
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178425\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 10:09 AM\']
I apologize for coming off as a jerk on these boards.
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Too late.
And since you're the one who veered this thread so far off topic, you really don't have any reason to ask it to go back...now DO YOU?
/Yes, I'm piling on
//Is that so bad in this case?
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178445\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 02:56 PM\']
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178425\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 10:09 AM\']
I apologize for coming off as a jerk on these boards.
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Too late.
And since you're the one who veered this thread so far off topic, you really don't have any reason to ask it to go back...now DO YOU?
/Yes, I'm piling on
//Is that so bad in this case?
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I do have a reason for this thread to go back on topic; I promise never to say anything stupid like that ever again. I really mean it.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178445\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 02:56 PM\']
Too late.
And since you're the one who veered this thread so far off topic, you really don't have any reason to ask it to go back...now DO YOU?
/Yes, I'm piling on
//Is that so bad in this case?
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In this case, I say so. He made an apology for overreacting, so no sense in continuing to rake him over the coals.
Now, if he doesn't learn from this incident, that's another story.
ETA: I just read the original statement, quoted in Michi-Matt's post. Sorry bout that, ummm, no it's not a bad thing.
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That said, he's realized his error and promised not to repeat it.
THAT said, it's his future actions that will tell the tale, not his promises.
/in other words, what Brandon said and then crossed out
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'178412\' date=\'Feb 20 2008, 11:03 PM\']And I think perhaps it's time to take this discussion in another direction because I don't think anything more can come from it that's good.)[/quote]I don't have a problem with this line of discussion, since I think these people should be routinely and repeatedly disabused of the notion that GSN exists solely for their own amusement/tape collection. Because it doesn't seem to be getting through.
That said, the notion of stretching three half hours into 120 minutes becomes far less interesting an idea if there aren't any interviews or stuff.
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'178425\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 07:09 AM\']I apologize for coming off as a jerk on these boards.[/quote]I'd believe you except Matt caught you playing the "I'm sorry you feel that way" card, and it's too late anyway, you can't unring a bell. Your best bet is to change and hope people have short memories.
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Meanwhile, back on the topic, with host interviews being eliminated, does this mean the call for contestants who appeared on game shows pre-1990 has also been pulled from the plans?
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Well, I do know this, however:
According to Steve Beverly's site, arrangements have been made and Wink Martindale has agreed to appear on next Friday's edition of GSN's new GSN Live interstitials.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'178833\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 10:44 PM\']
Meanwhile, back on the topic, with host interviews being eliminated, does this mean the call for contestants who appeared on game shows pre-1990 has also been pulled from the plans?
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<TPIR overbid>
The interview with Wink will be on Friday (per GSN). I would think everything else will happen as well, though maybe not where we think they should be.
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2 days of this latest GSN venture and no comments on it?
Well I'll start...
Um, well, at least the hosts aren't overworked. Could be the easiest gig on TV.
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'179038\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 04:04 PM\']
2 days of this latest GSN venture and no comments on it?
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Here's a comment :
To celebrate Jim Narz's birthday today, they had him on the phone. While he was responding to Fred's question about why he hasn't hosted a game show in 22 years, Heidi interrupted him to ask him what his favorite show hosting was. After that quick answer, he was thanked for calling in.
The entire segment lasted, at best, 90 seconds.
Pass.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'179044\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 01:20 PM\']
The entire segment lasted, at best, 90 seconds.[/quote]
Wow, that's telling. As is Roggin's attempt at hard-hitting journalism.
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Paraphrasing, Tom said he stopped hosting because his phone stopped ringing. His fave shows to host were YDS and NTT, ironically (or is it coincidentally?) both unshown on GSN.
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And they couldn't have taken out one of the game segments to talk to him? Still, it's nice to have had him on, even if it was for a go-to-the-kitchen-to-get-a-drink-and-you'll-miss-it segment. They should "make his phone ring" more often.
I can only imagine what Friday's going to be like: "Hiya Wink! Nice to have you. Now, 'Family Feud'!"
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[quote name=\'Queen of Nerdocrombesia\' post=\'179087\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 05:23 PM\']
I can only imagine what Friday's going to be like: "Hiya Wink! Nice to have you. Now, 'Family Feud'!"
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"I bet you like bread, don't you?"
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'179049\' date=\'Feb 26 2008, 05:31 PM\']
Paraphrasing, Tom said he stopped hosting because his phone stopped ringing. His fave shows to host were YDS and NTT, ironically (or is it coincidentally?) both unshown on GSN.
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It's achingly close to irony, but just falls short. (Now if the name of the network were Kennedy's Klassics and neither YDS nor NTT were on the schedule, we'd have a winner.)
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I taped the premiere. I was about halfway through converting it to DVD when I thought, "Why am I doing this?"
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A few notes for the next week. Tommorow Ken Jennings will be on and will be promoting his book as well as telling us on how to become a Game Show Champion.
Joyce Bulifant will be coming to GSN Live on Friday.
Guide_Angel says that next week, Fred Roggin will be taking a vacation. Taking his spot for the week will be Wink Martindale. And next Friday, Peter Marshall will be the special guest.
This all comes from GSN.
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[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'181859\' date=\'Mar 18 2008, 10:54 PM\']
Taking his spot for the week will be Wink Martindale.
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Which easily makes this the most tolerable and best week of the show. Those brows man, I tell ya. Expect Heidi to get more than her token few words in each segment when dealing with the much more genial Winker.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'181861\' date=\'Mar 18 2008, 11:20 PM\']
Which easily makes this the most tolerable and best week of the show. Those brows man, I tell ya.
-Jason
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Brows, bad. Face, SCARY!