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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: bclark71 on January 10, 2008, 03:21:50 PM
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http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Price-Rig...he-Best-Of/8760 (http://\"http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Price-Right-The-Best-Of/8760\")
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[quote name=\'bclark71\' post=\'174427\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 03:21 PM\']
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Price-Rig...he-Best-Of/8760 (http://\"http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Price-Right-The-Best-Of/8760\")
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They are actually going to include some Bill Cullen episodes in this new DVD box set? And even Bob Barker's first hosting episode...with that fur coat as the first IFUB ever??? Now that is a definite buy, no doubt!!!
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They're also wasting almost 25% of the content on Barker's last week.
I'll wait until it shows up in the $9.99 bin someplace. And it will.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'174433\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 02:36 PM\'] They're also wasting almost 25% of the content on Barker's last week.
I'll wait until it shows up in the $9.99 bin someplace. And it will. [/quote]
To be fair, it was originally announced as 20 episodes, then upped to 26. (Those extra six likely being the first show and the last week). The announced price did not change with the announced content. So it's not really wasted per se. Granted, I didn't want to pay $30 for this even before the added content, but that's a separate issue.
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The first episode bit strikes me as odd, considering it contains a fur. Not that I'm defending him at all, but I thought Bob called for a moratorium on any fur episodes? Consider it a curious thought. :-P
Or did that all go out the window when he stepped down?
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Everything mentioned so far points to there not being any Dian, Holly, or Kathleen episodes, huh. What a shame.
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'174435\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 12:52 PM\']
The announced price did not change with the announced content. So it's not really wasted per se.[/quote]
Sure it is. I don't care about what they announce, I care about what they go to market with. (Especially because it is entirely possible that they planned to go to market with 26 episodes all along and that all of this is a marketing stunt.) And if they discovered that they could squeeze six extra shows on there and decided to use that space to hold the final week of Ezekiel when they could have used it to hold more interesting stuff from further back in the history of the show, that, to me, is wasted.
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[quote name=\'petek66\' post=\'174437\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 05:12 PM\']
Everything mentioned so far points to there not being any Dian, Holly, or Kathleen episodes, huh. What a shame.
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So no "Bump" episodes, possibly?
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The first episode bit strikes me as odd, considering it contains a fur. Not that I'm defending him at all, but I thought Bob called for a moratorium on any fur episodes? Consider it a curious thought. :-P
I'm not too thrilled about all the last-week episodes either, but from a collecting standpoint it will be good to have a good-quality copy of the premiere. Most copies in the trade curcuit that I know about are in poor condition.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'174436\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 03:52 PM\']
The first episode bit strikes me as odd, considering it contains a fur. Not that I'm defending him at all, but I thought Bob called for a moratorium on any fur episodes? Consider it a curious thought. :-P
Or did that all go out the window when he stepped down?[/quote]
I'm thinking yeah, that's exactly it. He may have been executive producer, but he was never owner. My thought has always been that Fremantle had the right to license whatever episodes they wanted to whomever they wanted, and they kept the furs out of the equation just to keep the old man content.
Speaking of Ezekiel, for some reason this picture amuses me greatly (http://\"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200181944438\").
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I'm thinking yeah, that's exactly it. He may have been executive producer, but he was never owner. My thought has always been that Fremantle had the right to license whatever episodes they wanted to whomever they wanted, and they kept the furs out of the equation just to keep the old man content.
If that's the case, it would seem that if the old episodes ever found their way back to GSN we'd likely get the whole package of shows, including the ones they skipped over last time. Personally, I'd like to see more of the half-hour shows.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174450\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 02:53 PM\']
this picture amuses me greatly (http://\"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200181944438\").
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It would certainly be more accurate if his hands were about six inches higher on each side. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'174459\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 06:59 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174450\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 02:53 PM\']
this picture amuses me greatly (http://\"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200181944438\").
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It would certainly be more accurate if his hands were about six inches higher on each side. :)
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Or not visible at all.
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[quote name=\'petek66\' post=\'174437\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 04:12 PM\']
Everything mentioned so far points to there not being any Dian, Holly, or Kathleen episodes, huh. What a shame.
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What mentioned that? On the site first noted in the thread, none of the three reports says there are or aren't.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'174469\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 07:59 PM\']
[quote name=\'petek66\' post=\'174437\' date=\'Jan 10 2008, 04:12 PM\']
Everything mentioned so far points to there not being any Dian, Holly, or Kathleen episodes, huh. What a shame.
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What mentioned that? On the site first noted in the thread, none of the three reports says there are or aren't.
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Nothing has mentioned it, but given that the recent retrospective specials omitted them entirely, the box art shows only recent photos, and the DVD episodes we know of would not have those models in them, it makes me think there is some legal barrier to including them. But I wouldn't have expected the premiere episode to show up either, so maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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[quote name=\'petek66\' post=\'174492\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 12:45 AM\']
Nothing has mentioned it, but given that the recent retrospective specials omitted them entirely, the box art shows only recent photos, and the DVD episodes we know of would not have those models in them, it makes me think there is some legal barrier to including them. But I wouldn't have expected the premiere episode to show up either, so maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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I point out here that until we either have the DVD in our hands or see a press release containing which episodes will be included, this is conjecture or sheer speculation.
I, for one, don't think there will be any kind of legal barriers such as this.
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'174494\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 01:00 AM\']
I, for one, don't think there will be any kind of legal barriers such as this.
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I don't either. If they had to exclude episodes with Dian, Holly, and/or Kathleen, that wipes out pretty much every show between 1975 and 2000...well over half the run! That's a pretty big chunk of history for the show, and it would just seem weird not to include any episodes from that time.
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'174495\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 01:58 AM\']
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'174494\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 01:00 AM\']
I, for one, don't think there will be any kind of legal barriers such as this.
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I don't either. If they had to exclude episodes with Dian, Holly, and/or Kathleen, that wipes out pretty much every show between 1975 and 2000...well over half the run! That's a pretty big chunk of history for the show, and it would just seem weird not to include any episodes from that time.
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I'm thinking (hoping) that the exclusion of the classic-era models from the specials and retrospectives was a Barker Thing, done at his discretion while he was EP. That the first show with a fur is said to be included in the DVD set indicates to me that it is likely old Puckerbutt has no say in what shows are included in this package, as Fremantle owns the shows and can license them as they wish.
As I said, thinking and hoping...
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[quote name=\'bclark71\' post=\'174505\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 07:52 AM\']I'm thinking (hoping) that the exclusion of the classic-era models from the specials and retrospectives was a Barker Thing, done at his discretion while he was EP. [/quote]
That's almost certainly true. Speculation at this point about which episodes they'll include is pointless (but fun!), but if you threw darts blindly in the tape room you'd be bound to hit Dian, Holly and Kathleen episodes pretty quickly. Unless there really is some legal issue with their clearances, I can't imagine that they won't show up.
I would imagine it hasn't been easy to select episodes. Plenty of shows have moments, but why do we need, for example, the entire episode where the girl lost her tube top, if only those few seconds were noteworthy? Wasn't Vanna only selected to 'Come on Down' for the final IUFB? Honestly, hardly any episodes were really 'special' for the full sixty minutes.
(I still love Robair's idea for a TPIR series back when we were speculating about GSN: "You Know How It Ends: The Double Overbid Marathon")
But you're adding a Cullen or two? OK, just because I have some extra Best Buy rewards that I need to use up, you sold me.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174529\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 11:58 AM\']
Wasn't Vanna only selected to 'Come on Down' for the final IUFB? Honestly, hardly any episodes were really 'special' for the full sixty minutes.
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To Vanna's embarrassment, she was one of the first four contestants. As most of us know, she did not get out of contestant's row. I think we could get the whole show based on that alone.
/Maybe they should bring her back for another chance...
//Maybe not
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174529\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 11:58 AM\']Wasn't Vanna only selected to 'Come on Down' for the final IUFB? Honestly, hardly any episodes were really 'special' for the full sixty minutes.[/quote]
IIRC, she was down there the entire show. I recall Barker making a comment about her after his entrance.
If they have Barker's last show, that's fine. The entire week is a bit overkill. Maybe if my Dad gets those reward coupons, I'll try and buy them by proxy.
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EDIT: Well, I WAS going to say what Nick and Joe said. Darn me for being two minutes late to the party.
But yeah, Vanna did get a couple comments down there. At the top of the show, Bob remarked that there were TV screens backstage where the crew can watch the show. And when a crew member read "Get Serious" on Vanna's shirt, he said "I am! I am!"
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If I remember correctly, I believe Barker also commented on the fact that Vanna was still down in Contestant's Row at one point. This was about a year before she got the WOF job, and IIRC, Vanna was a brunette, not a blonde. This was around 1980 or 81, so it was Johnny O. who called Vanna to "come on down."
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'174540\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 01:29 PM\']
This was about a year before she got the WOF job, and IIRC, Vanna was a brunette, not a blonde. This was around 1980 or 81, so it was Johnny O. who called Vanna to "come on down."
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IIRC, in her book, she said the ep. taped on 6/2/80 (her mom's birthday), and aired about two or three weeks later. Or maybe it aired on her mom's b-day...either way, the taping and airing happened in June 1980. She went to "Wheel" in late-1982.
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'174532\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 12:18 PM\']To Vanna's embarrassment, she was one of the first four contestants. As most of us know, she did not get out of contestant's row. I think we could get the whole show based on that alone.[/quote]
I stand corrected. And yes, absolutely, that then ought to be one of the episodes in the set.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174529\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 11:58 AM\']
if you threw darts blindly in the tape room you'd be bound to hit Dian, Holly and Kathleen episodes pretty quickly. [/quote]
But please don't. Just on general principle.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'174556\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 03:28 PM\']IIRC, in [Vanna's] book, she said the ep. taped on 6/2/80 (her mom's birthday), and aired about two or three weeks later. Or maybe it aired on her mom's b-day...either way, the taping and airing happened in June 1980.[/quote]
It aired on June 20. Oddly enough, I don't believe this is the date Vanna has given for it, but Price's records confirm it to be correct.
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I believe you will find that alot of the previous episodes that have been excluded from reairing will remain as such as far as this DVD set is concerned.
You can draw your conclusions from that as you wish.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'174533\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 01:19 PM\']
If they have Barker's last show, that's fine. The entire week is a bit overkill.
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Agreed. But somewhere in the back of the mind, you wonder if including *ALL* of the final week of Barker's reign was a final ego stroke for Barker -- If Carson's last week on the Tonight Show can do it, than so can I, especially since I hosted "Price" longer than Carson hosted "Tonight".
...But Carson's final week was far better!!!
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'174713\' date=\'Jan 13 2008, 10:53 AM\']But somewhere in the back of the mind, you wonder if including *ALL* of the final week of Barker's reign was a final ego stroke for Barker -- If Carson's last week on the Tonight Show can do it, than so can I, especially since I hosted "Price" longer than Carson hosted "Tonight".
...But Carson's final week was far better!!![/quote]
Is Carson's entire final week on DVD? I have The Ultimate Collection and that has the Thursday and Friday shows from Carson's last week. From what I've seen, the newer Definitive Collection is primarily the previously released sets in one box.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'174716\' date=\'Jan 13 2008, 12:11 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'174713\' date=\'Jan 13 2008, 10:53 AM\']But somewhere in the back of the mind, you wonder if including *ALL* of the final week of Barker's reign was a final ego stroke for Barker -- If Carson's last week on the Tonight Show can do it, than so can I, especially since I hosted "Price" longer than Carson hosted "Tonight".
...But Carson's final week was far better!!![/quote]
Is Carson's entire final week on DVD? I have The Ultimate Collection and that has the Thursday and Friday shows from Carson's last week. From what I've seen, the newer Definitive Collection is primarily the previously released sets in one box.
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I had thought there were 3 new eps on Carson's last week, and they were all available on DVD & VHS at the time. That was one collection that has always been on my 'must have' list but for whatever reason I have yet to purchase.
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No Dennis James.
No Tom Kennedy.
No Doug Davidson.
No sale.
Like them or not, TPIR from 1972 on has had four emcees. At least one episode of each should be included if only for posterity, even if it means dropping some Cullen episodes (sorry, Matt). During his run on the show, Dennis James brought a certain energy to the show that stiff, mechanical (at the time) Barker did not.
Liz Habib -- Giggity Extreme!
Would you like me to pass this along to her?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'174755\' date=\'Jan 13 2008, 09:18 PM\']
No Dennis James.
No Tom Kennedy.
No Doug Davidson.
No sale.
Like them or not, TPIR from 1972 on has had four emcees.
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What about Drew?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'174755\' date=\'Jan 13 2008, 09:18 PM\']
At least one episode of each should be included if only for posterity, even if it means dropping some Cullen episodes (sorry, Matt). [/quote]
Oh, you won't hear complaints from me, that sounds like a terrific idea. Besides, I doubt seriously that there are going to be oodles of Cullen episodes to drop. Two would frankly surprise me. The way I see it, they should have a "bonus disc" of non-Barker TPIR, heck maybe even with an oversea version or two.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174770\' date=\'Jan 13 2008, 11:04 PM\']
The way I see it, they should have a "bonus disc" of non-Barker TPIR, heck maybe even with an oversea version or two.
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I vote for the oversea version (or two) being from Joe Pasquale's version. :-P
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174770\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 12:04 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'174755\' date=\'Jan 13 2008, 09:18 PM\']
At least one episode of each should be included if only for posterity, even if it means dropping some Cullen episodes (sorry, Matt). [/quote]
Oh, you won't hear complaints from me, that sounds like a terrific idea. Besides, I doubt seriously that there are going to be oodles of Cullen episodes to drop. Two would frankly surprise me. The way I see it, they should have a "bonus disc" of non-Barker TPIR, heck maybe even with an oversea version or two.
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They could definitely add a Dennis James ep, since furs are "in" again, so to speak, and that was the only show a vast majority of people remember him hosting.
Kennedy?? perhaps, but IMHO I don't recall him doing anything on his version that stood out.
Davidson?? That show was so far off the traditional format chart, it might scare some people!
Foreign versions?? Absolutely! Maybe a quick montage of the non-English formats and a full ep from each English-speaking country (If you can have a DVD box set including Bruce Forsyth's appearance from The Muppet Show,...) :-)
And if you're gonna have Barker's last, you should have either Drew's first taped or aired ep!
Would you like me to pass this along to her?
Sure...then we can finalize the dates for that weekend in Vail next month... :-)
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According to someone who works for BCI...
"This is what I know.
We have 4 Bill Cullen episodes, 3 episodes from Bob' first week, his entire final week and the rest are from the early to mid 70s.
I would guess that depending on how this set sells and how that influences the producers, future volumes could move into the 80s."
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[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' post=\'174850\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 03:52 PM\']
According to someone who works for BCI...
We have 4 Bill Cullen episodes, [/quote]
OK, nobody's happier about this than I (and maybe Adam), but even I know That's Too Much!
If I'm Joe Housewife, and I'm buying this thing because of my hero, Bob Barker, why on earth am I going to be excited by the fact that half of one disc is this black and white version I've never heard of?
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According to that list then, there don't appear to be too many hour-long episodes outside of the last week. I wonder if they're going to include the first hour-long from 1975. Even though most of us have it in our collections, for the average fan out there, it would be a nice touch.
They could definitely add a Dennis James ep, since furs are "in" again, so to speak, and that was the only show a vast majority of people remember him hosting.
A fur wasn't given away on every episode. It would have been good if they could have seen fit to throw one Dennis ep in there -- how about the one that ended in a showcase tie -- the only time in the show's history that happened. That would have been a neat treasure!
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[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' post=\'174850\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 03:52 PM\']We have 4 Bill Cullen episodes, 3 episodes from Bob' first week, his entire final week and the rest are from the early to mid 70s.[/quote]Hmm . . . Dian didn't start until 1975. Is it possible we'll only be getting pre- and post-Dian episodes in this set?
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' post=\'174860\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 04:27 PM\']
[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' post=\'174850\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 03:52 PM\']We have 4 Bill Cullen episodes, 3 episodes from Bob' first week, his entire final week and the rest are from the early to mid 70s.[/quote]Hmm . . . Dian didn't start until 1975. Is it possible we'll only be getting pre- and post-Dian episodes in this set?
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Does Barker have a say in that?
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'174865\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 03:58 PM\']
Does Barker have a say in that? [/quote]
If Barker's lost the power to stop episodes due to furs, I'd imagine it'd be the same thing for Dian or any of the other models.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'174868\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 05:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'174865\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 03:58 PM\']
Does Barker have a say in that? [/quote]
If Barker's lost the power to stop episodes due to furs, I'd imagine it'd be the same thing for Dian or any of the other models.[/quote]
But it's all just been speculation. None of us knows* whether Barker is wielding any veto power over this set. One member has already rather cryptically suggested that the off-limits episodes are still off-limits, and you'll note that the BCI guy says they have "3 episodes from Bob' first week," which might mean three shows that don't have furs and not necessarily the "very first" episode they're promising at the OP's link.
*I imagine some people might know for sure but for some reason or another aren't saying.
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The evidence does seem to fit with the theory Bob has veto power.
I said three days ago...
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'174495\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 01:58 AM\']
If they had to exclude episodes with Dian, Holly, and/or Kathleen, that wipes out pretty much every show between 1975 and 2000...well over half the run!
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The episodes we know of are all outside that time period, and the rest being from "the early-to-mid 70's" would seem to suggest nothing after 1975. And there were exactly three episodes from week 1 without fur coats.
Of course, something could happen to prove me totally wrong, but so far everything seems to support it.
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'174876\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 05:20 PM\']
The evidence does seem to fit with the theory Bob has veto power.
I said three days ago...
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'174495\' date=\'Jan 11 2008, 01:58 AM\']
If they had to exclude episodes with Dian, Holly, and/or Kathleen, that wipes out pretty much every show between 1975 and 2000...well over half the run!
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The episodes we know of are all outside that time period, and the rest being from "the early-to-mid 70's" would seem to suggest nothing after 1975. And there were exactly three episodes from week 1 without fur coats.
Of course, something could happen to prove me totally wrong, but so far everything seems to support it.
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Was Dian around on the first hour long episode?
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[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' post=\'174878\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 06:29 PM\']Was Dian around on the first hour long episode?
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Sure was. In fact, she started sometime in the summer of '75, when Anitra took a leave of absence.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174873\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 06:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'174868\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 05:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'174865\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 03:58 PM\']
Does Barker have a say in that? [/quote]
If Barker's lost the power to stop episodes due to furs, I'd imagine it'd be the same thing for Dian or any of the other models.[/quote]
But it's all just been speculation. None of us knows* whether Barker is wielding any veto power over this set.
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According to the aforementioned "BCI guy," the set "can't have episodes that feature furs, as Bob won't allow it." (http://\"http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-tv-shows-tv-movies/260504-whats-next-bci-2.html#post3294654\") Which is why I was surprised when it was reported the first episode is included. Probably just an exception because of its significance.
BCI did try to negotiate (for lack of a better term) with Bob to include fur episodes, but no go (http://\"http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-tv-shows-tv-movies/260504-whats-next-bci-3.html#post3296046\") (also a mention of other hosts' exclusion at that link).
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Here's why I think it makes sense for Bob to have veto power over DVD releases. Those in the know about such things, correct me if I'm wrong.
Bob's contract (at least until recently) probably had no clauses relating to home video releases of the show since (a) none was planned and (b) until the advent of DVD, doing so was fairly cost prohibitive. Therefore, just as GSN has to obtain releases from all hosts and celebrities to rerun older shows, and just as BCI likely had to get releases to release the Best of MG DVD, so they probably have to obtain releases from Bob to release the Best of TPIR DVD. Thus, Bob can simply refuse to release any episodes he does not want to be seen again, which means BCI is stuck with whatever non-fur, non-Dian/Holly/Kathleen episodes they can find. (It's possible his recent contracts did have clauses giving him veto power over reruns and other releases of old shows, too.) This may also explain the lack of James/Kennedy/Davidson episodes; Bob could have held his episodes (at least the ones he was willing to have included) hostage until BCI agreed not to include any other 1972-and-beyond versions of TPIR .
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[quote name=\'scottua1\' post=\'174883\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 07:10 PM\']
BCI did try to negotiate (for lack of a better term) with Bob to include fur episodes, but no go (http://\"http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-tv-shows-tv-movies/260504-whats-next-bci-3.html#post3296046\") (also a mention of other hosts' exclusion at that link).
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My god...if that is true, it just proves that Barker is/was a complete jerk*. It's nice that he cared about Uncle Bill...but denying a PSA possibility or a donation of the proceeds to a charity (I'd assume either the charity the money from the mic and chair went to or his DJ&T foundation) is just plain silly.
*Yeah, I went there. Sue me.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'174887\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 07:24 PM\']
[quote name=\'scottua1\' post=\'174883\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 07:10 PM\']
BCI did try to negotiate (for lack of a better term) with Bob to include fur episodes, but no go (http://\"http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-tv-shows-tv-movies/260504-whats-next-bci-3.html#post3296046\") (also a mention of other hosts' exclusion at that link).
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My god...if that is true, it just proves that Barker is/was a complete jerk*. It's nice that he cared about Uncle Bill...but denying a PSA possibility or a donation of the proceeds to a charity (I'd assume either the charity the money from the mic and chair went to or his DJ&T foundation) is just plain silly.
*Yeah, I went there. Sue me.
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This quote got me:
...I don't think Barker will allow any other hosts to appear, but he has great reverence for Cullen...
Are you serious...no really, are you serious?!
/somewhat rhetorical question
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'174887\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 07:24 PM\']
[quote name=\'scottua1\' post=\'174883\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 07:10 PM\']
BCI did try to negotiate (for lack of a better term) with Bob to include fur episodes, but no go (http://\"http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-tv-shows-tv-movies/260504-whats-next-bci-3.html#post3296046\") (also a mention of other hosts' exclusion at that link).
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My god...if that is true, it just proves that Barker is/was a complete jerk*. It's nice that he cared about Uncle Bill...but denying a PSA possibility or a donation of the proceeds to a charity (I'd assume either the charity the money from the mic and chair went to or his DJ&T foundation) is just plain silly.[/quote]
The quest of revisionist history can be one that can be at times jerkish. Barker's attempts at it have worked out well since your average person under the age of, say, 30 would be (and, from my own personal experience, have been) floored by the idea that Mr. "Have Your Pet Spayed or Neutered" wasn't always that way.
Besides, who wants to say that the PSA possibility hasn't been brandied about before? Back in the day GSN had to have thought of giving PSA time to animal rights organizations in exchange for airing fur episodes a la the deal with cigarette shows, yes?
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it just proves that Barker is/was a complete jerk
You hadn't figured that out already?
I really take umbrage with this jerk, who doesn't even have an equity stake in the product, pulling the levers. Leave it to his monumental, unbridled vanity to exclude the other emcees and Dian/Holly/Kathleen. Jerk. He's probably got it set up so he can pull the levers from the grave.
*Yeah, I went there. Sue me.
Kudos to you! If we had any money we'd pay you a bonus.
P.S. Yes, five emcees, but I don't think Drew is far enough along to be immortalized on DVD as yet.
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Bill Cullen is truly a god, if even Bob Barker likes him.
I do question how much of a market beyond us geeks that there really would be for eps of the other hosts.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'174900\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 08:39 PM\']I do question how much of a market beyond us geeks that there really would be for eps of the other hosts.[/quote]There probably isn't much of one, but tossing in even one James and one Kennedy as extras wouldn't be asking for much. Besides, how much market do you really think exists for black-and-white Cullen episodes either? Surely more living Americans remember the James (especially) and Kennedy versions than the Cullen ones, and many of these same people view B&W as only slightly better than a test pattern.
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I do question how much of a market beyond us geeks that there really would be for eps of the other hosts this whole DVD deal.
There, fixed that for you.
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' post=\'174902\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 08:58 PM\']
Surely more living Americans remember the James (especially) and Kennedy versions than the Cullen ones, and many of these same people view B&W as only slightly better than a test pattern.
[/quote]
True, but at least the Cullen eps offer something that is completely different from the current format. No one could look at Unca Bill's show and think "who's that weird guy on Bob's show?"
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Let's hope Bob doesn't "go green" next and ban all shows including machines with gasoline internal combustion engines.
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' post=\'174902\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 08:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'174900\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 08:39 PM\']I do question how much of a market beyond us geeks that there really would be for eps of the other hosts.[/quote]There probably isn't much of one, but tossing in even one James and one Kennedy as extras wouldn't be asking for much. Besides, how much market do you really think exists for black-and-white Cullen episodes either? Surely more living Americans remember the James (especially) and Kennedy versions than the Cullen ones, and many of these same people view B&W as only slightly better than a test pattern.
[/quote]
Well, what I have been seeing in the last seven years of any connection with The Price Is Right is that severe usage of "revisionist history" that I am sure that Bob Barker has had as a strong, evil clout for really too long, and it is really much more than him with a severe ego problem that I have witnessed in the last 35 years. I have this strong belief and theory that Barker may have had a very intensive dislike and even jealousy for Dennis James, and perhaps vice versa, and you hardly heard or saw any news of the two of them together in the same room. Compare that with the always friendly relationship with Dick Clark and Bill Cullen when they were on the same soundstage for Pyramid, and those two game show icons had great admiration for each other, particularly as seen on the ABC daytime finale of Friday, June 27, 1980.
Barker's veto power of denying any viewing of Dennis James' episodes, even without the usage of fur coats, is one of the lamest excuses I ever heard in my life. Sure, Barker may have respect for Cullen, but not necessiarly for James or even anyone else who hosted or modeled the show for that matter. Just look at the sixth nighttime episode available on the trading circuit, as taped on the same date of the first airing of the CBS daytime version of Price, and I do not see any such type of that prize offered anywhere at all on that broadcast. By today's standards, it would be almost politically correct even by Barker's standards.
Oh, yeah...count me in as another one who also thinks that Barker is a jerk also. I have seen his swelling ego on other shows far too long as I can remember, particularly also when he hosted the Daytime Emmy Awards in 1976 and 1979. As a matter of fact, I would not even dare to be in the same room as Barker, unless I want to say to him, to parapharse the line from the movie Happy Gilmore, "The $20,000 Pyramid,...you mutt!!!"
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[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'174966\' date=\'Jan 15 2008, 12:33 PM\']
Oh, yeah...count me in as another one who also thinks that Barker is a jerk also. I have seen his swelling ego on other shows far too long as I can remember...[/quote]
Considering that the details are coming out piece by piece (no furs; no Dennis, Tom or Doug; Bob's last week in its entirety), I inclined to agree that he's a pompous jerk. It's things like that that make Drew's PIR more and more a breath of fresh air. Personally, I'm surprised that Bob didn't hire any fanbois to vandalise Wikipedia by removing furs, Dennis and Tom from the TPIR articles.
[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'174966\' date=\'Jan 15 2008, 12:33 PM\']
I would not even dare to be in the same room as Barker, unless I want to say to him, to parapharse the line from the movie Happy Gilmore, "The $20,000 Pyramid,...you mutt!!!"
[/quote]
Considering that Happy finagled the title in the film, have you meant "The $20,000 Trapezoid"? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'174914\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 09:22 PM\']
No one could look at Unca Bill's show and think "who's that weird guy on Bob's show?"
[/quote]I'm personally waiting for the day when my kids are old enough to ask, "Who's that weird old guy on Drew's show?"
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Looks like I have $40 I can put to better use. Maybe I'll buy some sheepskin boots for the cold Iowa winter.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'174974\' date=\'Jan 15 2008, 12:29 PM\']Looks like I have $40 I can put to better use. Maybe I'll buy some sheepskin boots for the cold Iowa winter.[/quote]
Agreed, I don't think I'll be buying a DVD set of "The Ego is Right" anytime soon.
Shame, I was really looking forward to this for a while.
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[quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'174972\' date=\'Jan 15 2008, 10:21 AM\']
I'm personally waiting for the day when my kids are old enough to ask, "Who's that weird old guy on Drew's show?"
[/quote]
But will they understand why you immediately take them out for ice cream? :)
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Shame I don't have the ability to capture video; I'd post every fur episode of TPIR I had on Youtube out of spite.
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'174990\' date=\'Jan 15 2008, 04:41 PM\']
Shame I don't have the ability to capture video; I'd post every fur episode of TPIR I had on Youtube out of spite.
[/quote]
He'd probably sue you for that.
Hell, he'd probably sue the rest of us who have "verboten" episodes in our collections.
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Not that this makes Barker look any better, but it seems doubtful that Barker has grudges against James, Kennedy, AND Davidson . . . except in the context of what seems to me like the real reason for exclusion: They're all Someone Else hosting The Bob Barker Show.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'175080\' date=\'Jan 15 2008, 10:29 PM\']
[E]xcept in the context of what seems to me like the real reason for exclusion: They're all Someone Else hosting The Bob Barker Show.
[/quote]
And I'm guessing the only reason he didn't veto Cullen (other than the obvious) is because he knows good and well the show existed long before 1972?
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While I'm speculating wildly, I would say it's more a case of Cullen TPIR not sufficiently resembling TBBS.
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The latest word from ClockGameJohn at G-R.net (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=5046.msg74485#msg74485\"), after contacting BCI about the set, is:
I will confirm 4 Bill Cullen episodes in the set, the full last week of Bob's show in Season 35 (as we knew), and additionally the episodes will be from the 1972-1975 era. 26 total shows over 4 discs.
There also may be a "pot of gold" on one of the episodes.
Aside from the potential "pot of gold," then, that seems to indicate we're likely to be getting only pre-Dian episodes, plus Bob's last week and the Cullen episodes.
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' post=\'175847\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 08:29 AM\']
There also may be a "pot of gold" on one of the episodes[/quote]
And what would that be? Seriously.
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Perhaps he's teasing to the members that they're including the debut of Golden Road from one of the half hour shows where it got played last instead of first.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'175855\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 09:39 AM\']Perhaps he's teasing to the members that they're including the debut of Golden Road from one of the half hour shows where it got played last instead of first.[/quote]
Y'know, I told him that's what everybody would think of when they read that.
(And no, that isn't it.)
(And no, I can't say what it is.)
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175862\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 11:59 AM\']
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'175855\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 09:39 AM\']Perhaps he's teasing to the members that they're including the debut of Golden Road from one of the half hour shows where it got played last instead of first.[/quote]
Y'know, I told him that's what everybody would think of when they read that.
(And no, that isn't it.)
(And no, I can't say what it is.)[/quote]
Oh boy, more baseless speculation!
For him to tease it in Golden Road, I imagine it would have to be something really unusual and really special. The first thing that leaps to mind would be the Mark Goodson-Dennis James pitch film that collectors have been swapping for years. A too-good-to-be-true choice would be Bill Cullen's original pilot/test show. I have photos from it, but I've never heard whether it exists. Hey, how about a completely different Barker thing, like an episode of TorC, or even The Family Game or the Simon pilot?
Sorry, I'm getting carried away. I just can't believe that he'd be teasing an episode that merely has an unusual order of pricing games to be a "pot of gold".
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You know, I would be jumping up and down to get a big mess o' early-seventies eps, but knowing that it's being done like that just to get back at a few models makes it a whole lot less fun.
And, again. The entire final week? Seriously.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'175870\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 12:40 PM\']
And, again. The entire final week? Seriously.
[/quote]
Hm. At least that would make some fanb0is who would like to see the un-condensed closing credit crawls of those shows happy. Hehe.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'175867\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 12:26 PM\']
For him to tease it in Golden Road, I imagine it would have to be something really unusual and really special. The first thing that leaps to mind would be the Mark Goodson-Dennis James pitch film that collectors have been swapping for years. A too-good-to-be-true choice would be Bill Cullen's original pilot/test show. I have photos from it, but I've never heard whether it exists. Hey, how about a completely different Barker thing, like an episode of TorC, or even The Family Game or the Simon pilot?
[/quote]
The Shower Game?
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Through the clue, "pot of gold," I will guess that it is a long-thought lost episode of Barker's 1958 prime time series "End of the Rainbow." How they got the rights from Ralph Edwards, I'm not sure. :)
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'175870\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 09:40 AM\']
And, again. The entire final week? Seriously.
[/quote]
Yeah, that right there is enough to make me completely disinterested in the set.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'175875\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 12:53 PM\']The Shower Game?[/quote]
OK, yeah, some completely bizarre long-lost pricing game might qualify. Professor Price, anyone?
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Unfortunately for those guesses, they don't cover the era 1972-1975. I'd almost certainly bet at this rate it's going to be something the G-R crowd would be a bit happier about than this crowd.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'175882\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 10:26 AM\']
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'175875\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 12:53 PM\']The Shower Game?[/quote]
OK, yeah, some completely bizarre long-lost pricing game might qualify. Professor Price, anyone?
[/quote]
I always wanted to see Professer Price goof up and shoot up the wrong finger. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'175888\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 01:41 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'175882\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 10:26 AM\']
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'175875\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 12:53 PM\']The Shower Game?[/quote]
OK, yeah, some completely bizarre long-lost pricing game might qualify. Professor Price, anyone?
[/quote]
I always wanted to see Professer Price goof up and shoot up the wrong finger. :)
[/quote]
Professor Price '08 prototype ? (http://\"http://tinyurl.com/37ubyv\")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'175888\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 01:41 PM\']
I always wanted to see Professer Price goof up and shoot up the wrong finger. :)[/quote]
According to Brad Francini (http://\"http://gscentral.net/prof.htm\"), "Professor Price had just four fingers on each hands as to prevent an unintentional obscene gesture." Though to most people, I would imagine that rather than preventing such a gesture, four fingers actually made it more likely.
I never realized the game was only played twice. They played more individual rounds of You're In The Picture than that!
BTW, Google "Professor Price" and the first two hits are references to the pricing game. Only after that do you actually get hits for professors named Price.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'175893\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 11:45 AM\']
According to Brad Francini[/url], "Professor Price had just four fingers on each hands as to prevent an unintentional obscene gesture."[/quote]
Yeah, I saw that too. I've got news for you, though: opposible thumb or no, if the second finger from the left goes up, he's flippin' you off. :)
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Somehow, I think it's much more likely that the "pot of gold" is a clip of Yolanda, with the usual Ezekiel commentary. :P
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[quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'175897\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:21 PM\']Somehow, I think it's much more likely that the "pot of gold" is a clip of Yolanda, with the usual Ezekiel commentary. :P
[/quote]
Do you really think we'd create hype for that?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175898\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 02:26 PM\']
[Do you really think we'd create hype for that?
[/quote]I think Bob would.
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Prediction: an outtake that shows Bob telling a contestant, "I have a pot of gold... IN MY PANTS."
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[quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'175899\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:36 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175898\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 02:26 PM\']Do you really think we'd create hype for that?[/quote]
I think Bob would.[/quote]
And what, pray tell, does that have to do with a post written by ClockGameJohn?
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'175901\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 04:39 PM\']
Prediction: an outtake that shows Bob telling a contestant, "I have a pot of gold... IN MY PANTS."
[/quote]
That was the original premise to It's In the Bag. Or was it Pick a Pair?
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'175903\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:46 PM\'][quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'175901\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 04:39 PM\']Prediction: an outtake that shows Bob telling a contestant, "I have a pot of gold... IN MY PANTS."
[/quote]
That was the original premise to It's In the Bag.
[/quote]
I always wondered why that game got delayed a whole year...
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And what, pray tell, does that have to do with a post written by ClockGameJohn?
CGJ contacted BCI, and BCI appears to be kowtowing to Bob regarding everything else on this DVD set...
Whatever. I'm just not expecting much from this, and that includes whatever the pot of gold is.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175902\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 12:41 PM\']
And what, pray tell, does that have to do with a post written by ClockGameJohn?
[/quote]
Yer getting awfully defensive, man. Why was it an unrealistic guess?
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[quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'175905\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:49 PM\']
And what, pray tell, does that have to do with a post written by ClockGameJohn?
CGJ contacted BCI, and BCI appears to be kowtowing to Bob regarding everything else on this DVD set...[/quote]
Lemme explain something to you here. We don't work for BCI, and while I'm not gonna say we've never done any kind of promotion for them, we don't work for the show, either. We work for our fellow fans, and when we see something we think is going to get them excited that we can't release immediately, we like to build a little suspense in the meantime. The 50 billionth airing of the tube top incident doesn't meet those standards.
[quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'175905\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:49 PM\']Whatever. I'm just not expecting much from this, and that includes whatever the pot of gold is.
[/quote]
Well, if you want to ignore the obvious hints otherwise, that's up to you.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'175907\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:54 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175902\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 12:41 PM\']And what, pray tell, does that have to do with a post written by ClockGameJohn?
[/quote]Yer getting awfully defensive, man. Why was it an unrealistic guess?
[/quote]Because I would like to think we're a little better than to create hype for something all of us have seen a hundred times already.
I think I can say this much without getting in trouble: If you didn't see the "pot of gold" in question on its original broadcast, then you haven't seen it.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175909\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 01:00 PM\']
Because I would like to think we're a little better than to create hype for something all of us have seen a hundred times already.[/quote]
So would I, but your outright admission of astroturfing in the few posts above certainly brings that into question.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'175910\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 04:07 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175909\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 01:00 PM\']
Because I would like to think we're a little better than to create hype for something all of us have seen a hundred times already.[/quote]
So would I, but your outright admission of astroturfing in the few posts above certainly brings that into question.
[/quote]
Well, let me rephrase that. If there's a $1,000,000 Spectacular to coming up, we're going to have ads for it on our front page, and for all we know, the show could be skunked. If there's a DVD collection coming out (I think I heard something about one of those...), we're going to have some promotion for that, too, because hey, it's supposed to be our favorite show. If we go out of our way to single out one particular aspect of the DVD...that's a hint that it might be something a little out of the ordinary.
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I think I can say this much without getting in trouble: If you didn't see the "pot of gold" in question on its original broadcast, then you haven't seen it.
Hmmm...this sounds like something that probably wasn't seen on GSN then. I wonder if Barker has relented and allowed an episode that was previously vetoed.
/On the other hand, does Barker even know the meaning of the word relent?
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Selfishly, I'm gonna buy it for the last Zeke Week alone. I forgot to tape it when it was on and to have it on crystal clear DVD is fantastic. Also want the Cullen eps on DVD.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'175903\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:46 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'175901\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 04:39 PM\']
Prediction: an outtake that shows Bob telling a contestant, "I have a pot of gold... IN MY PANTS."
[/quote]
That was the original premise to It's In the Bag. Or was it Pick a Pair?
[/quote]
I lol'd. Well played!
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175908\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'175905\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:49 PM\']Whatever. I'm just not expecting much from this, and that includes whatever the pot of gold is.[/quote]Well, if you want to ignore the obvious hints otherwise, that's up to you.[/quote]All that's been indicated is that there's a "pot of gold". Aside from the premiere, and perhaps the Cullen episodes, I don't see how that makes expectations rise much higher.
Certainly not worth the asking price.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'175925\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 06:46 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175908\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:58 PM\'][quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'175905\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:49 PM\']Whatever. I'm just not expecting much from this, and that includes whatever the pot of gold is.[/quote]Well, if you want to ignore the obvious hints otherwise, that's up to you.[/quote]All that's been indicated is that there's a "pot of gold". Aside from the premiere, and perhaps the Cullen episodes, I don't see how that makes expectations rise much higher.[/quote]
Mark, you hate everything. They could release the whole run with Barker digitally edited out, and you still wouldn't be excited.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175929\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 07:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'175925\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 06:46 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175908\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:58 PM\'][quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'175905\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 03:49 PM\']Whatever. I'm just not expecting much from this, and that includes whatever the pot of gold is.[/quote]Well, if you want to ignore the obvious hints otherwise, that's up to you.[/quote]All that's been indicated is that there's a "pot of gold". Aside from the premiere, and perhaps the Cullen episodes, I don't see how that makes expectations rise much higher.[/quote]
Mark, you hate everything. They could release the whole run with Barker digitally edited out, and you still wouldn't be excited.
They could release the whole run with Barker digitally edited out, and you still wouldn't be excited.[/quote]I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth.
I think I've stated previously what would make me "excited". Episodes hand-picked because a certain egomaniac seems to have gotten his way (again) doesn't constitute that. I've noticed others can complain, but Mark gives an opinion and zap.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'175930\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 04:06 PM\']
I've noticed others can complain, but Mark gives an opinion and zap.
[/quote]
(See Wolf, Boy Who Cried)
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'175930\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 07:06 PM\']I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth.[/quote]
Dude, I don't need to put words in your mouth. You've got umpteen hundred posts here that make the statement just fine by themselves.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'175930\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 07:06 PM\']
I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth.
[/quote]
Correct -- you don't hate everything about TPIR. Just the host, the announcer, the producer, the set, the audience, and the game. Which also just happens to be the list of what you hate about pretty much every other game show ever made.
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Could they have unearthed a color Cullen episode?
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[quote name=\'petek66\' post=\'175942\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 10:24 PM\']
Could they have unearthed a color Cullen episode?[/quote]
oh, don't DO that to me!
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you don't hate everything about TPIR. Just the host, the announcer, the producer, the set, the audience, and the game
You forgot the director :-P
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'175930\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 04:06 PM\']I've noticed others can complain, but Mark gives an opinion and zap.[/quote]That's a load of fertilizer. You proclaim Bill Cullen as fair to middling, then get standoff-ish when there's a line of people to disagree with you. You complain about, well, everything pertaining to game shows, like David said, and then expect people to lend an ear when you want to complain again.
Would you welcome in a dog that you knew wasn't house trained? It's the same thing. Your reputation precedes you, and no one takes you seriously anymore. Lay off the Statler and Waldorf act for a while, or at least put some meat behind your positions as opposed to a Jay Sherman-ish "It stinks!", and you might get someone to pay you attention.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'175951\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 08:14 PM\']
You forgot the director :-P[/quote]
At least that's a reasonable hatred.
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'175960\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 10:11 PM\']
Lay off the Statler and Waldorf act for a while, or at least put some meat behind your positions as opposed to a Jay Sherman-ish "It stinks!", and you might get someone to pay you attention.[/quote]
Two shiny gold stars for the Muppet and Critic references.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'175951\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 11:14 PM\']
you don't hate everything about TPIR. Just the host, the announcer, the producer, the set, the audience, and the game
You forgot the director :-P
[/quote]
I forgot the contestant coordinator, the set designer and the pages too. Mea culpa.
In the same vein, I hereby apologize for having previously stated that Jeremy Soria hates the entire free world. I neglected to mention that he hates everyone living under dictatorships and in slavery as well.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'175964\' date=\'Jan 23 2008, 03:29 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'175951\' date=\'Jan 22 2008, 11:14 PM\']
you don't hate everything about TPIR. Just the host, the announcer, the producer, the set, the audience, and the game
You forgot the director :-P
[/quote]
I forgot the contestant coordinator, the set designer and the pages too. Mea culpa.
[/quote]
TPIR doesn't have a contestant coordinator, but let's not forget the technical director, the lighting director, the audio mixer and the guys from CBS Electronics, lest they feel left out.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'175993\' date=\'Jan 23 2008, 04:45 PM\']
TPIR doesn't have a contestant coordinator,
[/quote]
Then what is Stan's title when he's interviewing all the people in line? I thought he was the "coordinator'...
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Stan is one of three co-producers. Ultimately on any of the old-school G-T shows, the producer picked the contestants.
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From CBS.com (http://\"http://www.cbs.com/daytime/price/about/justin/\") (emphasis mine)... "[Stan Blits] is the co-producer, music director, contestant coordinator, and staff writer."
So, no, they don't have a separate person acting in that capacity, but he is called that.
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I just wanted to bring attention to the fact that this set is scheduled to come out 3/25/08, in ten days. From an earlier Golden Road post, we know that these discs will contain...
[quote name=\'Golden-Road.net\']
Disc 1 - 4 half hour Bill Cullen episodes, and 3 half hour episodes from the first week of The New Price is Right with Bob Barker.
Disc 2 - 7 half hour episodes from 1972 and 1973.
Disc 3 - 3 half hour episodes from 1974, 1 hour long show from the Third Anniversary Week, 2 more half hour episodes from 1975, and the first permanent hour long show.
Disc 4 - The final 5 episodes from 2007 hosted by Bob Barker.[/quote]
Has there been any specific information released, such as airdates and whatnot?
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Is there any way I could just purchase discs 1, 2 and 3? haha
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I don't have the DVD right now because it's still in processing, but here's what I know:
Disc 1: BC-3/10/57, 1/13/60, 1/27/60, 9/4/64
Disc 1: 8/21/72 (#12), 8/26/72 (#13), 8/21/72 (#15) [third date probably in error]
Disc 2: 9/3/72 (#25), 9/17/72 (#44), 6/17/73 (#455), 6/17/73 (#462), 8/27/73 (#573), 9/23/73 (#612), 12/10/73 (#701)
Disc 3: 3/11/74 (#861), 6/17/74 (#972), 8/5/74 (#1024), 8/31/75 (#1585), 10/11/75 (#1651), 10/12/75 (#1652), 10/20/75 (#1661)
Disc 4: Last 5 (#4031-#4035)
I'm pretty sure the dates are tape dates and not air dates, with the exception of the Bill episodes.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'181310\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 12:33 PM\']
Disc 1: BC-3/10/57, 1/13/60, 1/27/60, 9/4/64
Disc 1: 8/21/72 (#12), 8/26/72 (#13), 8/21/72 (#15) [third date probably in error]
Disc 2: 9/3/72 (#25), 9/17/72 (#44), 6/17/73 (#455), 6/17/73 (#462), 8/27/73 (#573), 9/23/73 (#612), 12/10/73 (#701)
Disc 3: 3/11/74 (#861), 6/17/74 (#972), 8/5/74 (#1024), 8/31/75 (#1585), 10/11/75 (#1651), 10/12/75 (#1652), 10/20/75 (#1661)
Disc 4: Last 5 (#4031-#4035)[/quote]
Let me ask the fans what the numbering means. I'd assume based on Disc One that the last digit is the episode number for that week, and the earlier nunber(s) represents the week of production. So the last episode on Disc Thre, for example, would more logically be written #166-1. That would mean we're getting the Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday show for the premiere week. But the final week on Disc Four must represent some slightly different numbering pattern, because surely there have been more than 403 original weeks of TPIR produced.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'181314\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 12:45 PM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'181310\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 12:33 PM\']Disc 1: BC-3/10/57, 1/13/60, 1/27/60, 9/4/64
Disc 1: 8/21/72 (#12), 8/26/72 (#13), 8/21/72 (#15) [third date probably in error]
Disc 2: 9/3/72 (#25), 9/17/72 (#44), 6/17/73 (#455), 6/17/73 (#462), 8/27/73 (#573), 9/23/73 (#612), 12/10/73 (#701)
Disc 3: 3/11/74 (#861), 6/17/74 (#972), 8/5/74 (#1024), 8/31/75 (#1585), 10/11/75 (#1651), 10/12/75 (#1652), 10/20/75 (#1661)
Disc 4: Last 5 (#4031-#4035)[/quote]Let me ask the fans what the numbering means. I'd assume based on Disc One that the last digit is the episode number for that week, and the earlier nunber(s) represents the week of production. So the last episode on Disc Thre, for example, would more logically be written #166-1. That would mean we're getting the Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday show for the premiere week. But the final week on Disc Four must represent some slightly different numbering pattern, because surely there have been more than 403 original weeks of TPIR produced.[/quote]
You're absolutely right, although the Wednesday show from the first week is actually 0013D("R")* (0013D was never aired, plus it has a fur coat). The show numbers loop around from 9995D to 0011K near the end of Season 24, so that explains Barker's last week.
And the tapedate for 0015D is correct.
*There aren't supposed to be quotation marks in there, but I can't figure out how to type it properly without it turning into Ž.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181316\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:02 PM\']The show numbers loop around from 9995D to 0011K near the end of Season 24, so that explains Barker's last week.[/quote]
Oh, of course! Should have thought of that, though I imagine they also could have just had five-digit episode number too.
OK, fine, what do the "D" and "K" mean?
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IIRC, D stood for Daytime (since I think the syndie episodes used N), and K stood for the 1000 tape weeks they already did. (Addendum: The FAQ (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/faq/index.php/General_Questions#How_do_I_read_an_episode.27s_production_number.3F\") agrees)
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'181321\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:07 PM\']
IIRC, D stood for Daytime, and K stood for the 1000 tape weeks they already did.
[/quote]
Brilliant! I've learned something today, thank you both.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'181319\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:05 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181316\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:02 PM\']The show numbers loop around from 9995D to 0011K near the end of Season 24, so that explains Barker's last week.[/quote]Oh, of course! Should have thought of that, though I imagine they also could have just had five-digit episode number too.[/quote]
Well, the slates have always written the daytime codes with four digits, using leading zeroes before the hundreth week (and the nighttime codes with three digits and leading zeroes, for that matter)...I'm not sure why that prevented them from going to five digits, really, but at least it provides some context.
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'181321\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:07 PM\']IIRC, D stood for Daytime (since I think the syndie episodes used N), and K stood for the 1000 tape weeks they already did. (Addendum: The FAQ (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/faq/index.php/General_Questions#How_do_I_read_an_episode.27s_production_number.3F\") agrees)
[/quote]
You know, as obvious as that seems now, it took me over two years to figure it out.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181316\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:02 PM\']And the tapedate for 0015D is correct.[/quote]
Interesting that we bemoan the modern practice (especially with GSN) of having self-contained shows that can air in any order, when it turns out that's exactly what they did on TNPIR in its very first week!
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181332\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:53 PM\']
Well, the slates have always written the daytime codes with four digits, using leading zeroes before the hundreth week (and the nighttime codes with three digits and leading zeroes, for that matter)...I'm not sure why that prevented them from going to five digits, really, but at least it provides some context.
[/quote]
I will guess that whatever accounting system either CBS or GT used at the time couldn't handle a sixth digit in the production code. Quite common in the older days of computin'.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'181333\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 02:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181316\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:02 PM\']And the tapedate for 0015D is correct.[/quote]
Interesting that we bemoan the modern practice (especially with GSN) of having self-contained shows that can air in any order, when it turns out that's exactly what they did on TNPIR in its very first week!
[/quote](cross-post from Golden-Road and myself when this info broke)
Ok...just from my quick calculations and figurings...here's kind of a possibility for the tape/air order situation in the first few episodes.
If you place the shows in order of slate number, you get the following:
#0011D - Any/Bonus/Double
#0012D - Grocery/Bullseye/Double
#0013D - Any/Bonus/Double (the unaired one)
#0013D ® - Grocery/Bullseye/Double
#0014D - Any/Bonus/Double
#0015D - Grocery/Bullsye/Double
Now we all know that wasn't the taping order...and #0013D ® was the end of the week/start of the next week
NOW, if you re-arrange the order by the order the shows were taped, you get something really really interesting...
Tape 1 - Any/Bonus/Double - 0011D
Tape 2 - Any/Bonus/Double - 0013D (unaired)
Tape 3 - Any/Bonus/Double - 0014D
Tape 4 - Grocery/Bullseye/Double - 0012D
Tape 5 - Grocery/Bullseye/Double - 0015D
Tape 6 - Grocery/Bullseye/Double - 0013D ®
Apparently, they wanted to tape shows with the same games together, then, when the bad contestant came up, they stuck it at the end of the taping set, and so they didn't have to truck out the other games, they gave it the Grocery/Bullseye/Double lineup.
Hopefully this makes sense to people.
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What was the reason for the unaired game?
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'181335\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:08 PM\'] Hopefully this makes sense to people.[/quote]
Aha, it does make sense now. Basically, they did the same thing they did with Drew at the beginning of this season.
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'181338\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:23 PM\'] What was the reason for the unaired game? [/quote]
I believe one of the contestants was found ineligible after the taping.
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If anyone would like to know the airdates associated with what mmb5 reported above... then head on over to this link (http://\"http://www.nicholasmooneyhan.com/bestofpricedvd.html\") for a list of the episodes plus some notes (as far as I can make out), of what is on these episodes.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'181335\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 02:08 PM\']Tape 1 - Any/Bonus/Double - 0011D
Tape 2 - Any/Bonus/Double - 0013D (unaired)
Tape 3 - Any/Bonus/Double - 0014D
Tape 4 - Grocery/Bullseye/Double - 0012D
Tape 5 - Grocery/Bullseye/Double - 0015D
Tape 6 - Grocery/Bullseye/Double - 0013D("R")[/quote]
This is almost right, except that 0013D("R") was the second taping on August 26, after 0022D, which has the same lineup. The next session was 0021D and 0023D (which also both have the same lineup), and after that, everything goes pretty much in order.
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[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' post=\'181342\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 02:27 PM\']
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'181338\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 01:23 PM\'] What was the reason for the unaired game? [/quote]
I believe one of the contestants was found ineligible after the taping.
[/quote]
The ineligible contestant was a relative of one of the cameramen.
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'181398\' date=\'Mar 14 2008, 08:55 PM\']The ineligible contestant was a relative of one of the cameramen.[/quote]
Common-law wife, actually.
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I'm looking forward to this set. One of my regrets is that I didn't record more half-hour shows from GSN when I had the chance. By looking at Nick's air-date list, I see at least a dozen hour-hour shows I don't already have, so it will be neat to have access to them. I think there's a certain charm about the show's early years which was missing a little in recent years (although Drew's brought some of it back, IMHO).
I guess we shouldn't count on too many more (if any) of these sets if 25 years worth of episodes are on the "no-go" list though.
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ClockGameJohn from golden-road.net has an advance copy of the DVD, and posted a few screenshots here (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=5046.msg84580#msg84580\").
Yes, the slates and the ticket plugs are there.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'181649\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 02:15 PM\']I guess we shouldn't count on too many more (if any) of these sets if 25 years worth of episodes are on the "no-go" list though.[/quote]
I wouldn't bank on the first part of that sentence.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181680\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 05:20 PM\']
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'181649\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 02:15 PM\']I guess we shouldn't count on too many more (if any) of these sets if 25 years worth of episodes are on the "no-go" list though.[/quote]
I wouldn't bank on the first part of that sentence.
[/quote]
I was more hoping not to bank on the second part.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'181681\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 08:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181680\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 05:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'181649\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 02:15 PM\']I guess we shouldn't count on too many more (if any) of these sets if 25 years worth of episodes are on the "no-go" list though.[/quote]I wouldn't bank on the first part of that sentence.[/quote]I was more hoping not to bank on the second part.[/quote]
Well, so was I, but one out of two's better than nothing.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181683\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 05:33 PM\']
Well, so was I, but one out of two's better than nothing.
[/quote]
Can't say I agree, but to each their own.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181683\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 08:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'181681\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 08:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'181680\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 05:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'181649\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 02:15 PM\']I guess we shouldn't count on too many more (if any) of these sets if 25 years worth of episodes are on the "no-go" list though.[/quote]I wouldn't bank on the first part of that sentence.[/quote]I was more hoping not to bank on the second part.[/quote]
Well, so was I, but one out of two's better than nothing.
[/quote]
I'm not sure I see the point, actually. We've long established that the fanb0iz will buy pretty much anything with a TPIR logo, but they're also not enough of a customer base by themselves. Will another set that's more of the same appeal to the mass market? At least with Match Game or Tattletales there would be different celebrities; I'm not sure "Volume 2, with even MORE idiots jumping around!" is a big selling point.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'181698\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 09:37 PM\']I'm not sure I see the point, actually. We've long established that the fanb0iz will buy pretty much anything with a TPIR logo, but they're also not enough of a customer base by themselves. Will another set that's more of the same appeal to the mass market? At least with Match Game or Tattletales there would be different celebrities; I'm not sure "Volume 2, with even MORE idiots jumping around!" is a big selling point.[/quote]
I just say what I know. I don't always try to explain the logic behind it.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'181698\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 09:37 PM\']
I'm not sure "Volume 2, with even MORE idiots jumping around!" is a big selling point.[/quote]
But that's not your problem, or mine. That's only BCI's problem. The question as presented was whether having a Volume Two available (even without the "golden age" of models) is better than not having a Volume Two available. I don't see the downside of more episodes being made available to those who want them, while those of us who are not interested in seeing more idiots jumping around are free to do something else with our money.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'181702\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 09:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'181698\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 09:37 PM\']
I'm not sure "Volume 2, with even MORE idiots jumping around!" is a big selling point.[/quote]
But that's not your problem, or mine. That's only BCI's problem. The question as presented was whether having a Volume Two available (even without the "golden age" of models) is better than not having a Volume Two available. I don't see the downside of more episodes being made available to those who want them, while those of us who are not interested in seeing more idiots jumping around are free to do something else with our money.
[/quote]
True enough. And I guess it's still a better use of one's money than, say, $182.50 on a fake PYL T-shirt. :-) I'll still be interested to see how many of these sell.
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Unless I missed it, whatever happened to the premiere episode being on this set? Was it axed because of the fur coat?
And I guess I still don't see what the "pot of gold" was.
(Although, I assume that these sets are selling halfway decently for BCI to continue making them...)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'181702\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 06:52 PM\']
I don't see the downside of more episodes being made available to those who want them, while those of us who are not interested in seeing more idiots jumping around are free to do something else with our money.
[/quote]
Well, my response against that talking point is that I think the man-hours being put into The Best Of The Price Is Right That Lord Barker Will Let Us Air, Volume 2 would be better spent working on a compilation of another show (say, Pyramid), so long as BCI is going to continue this Game Show Boxed-Set series.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'181707\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 10:04 PM\']
And I guess I still don't see what the "pot of gold" was.
[/quote]
I believe it is the episode from 3rd Anniversary Week with the Rainbow Wheel.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'181698\' date=\'Mar 16 2008, 09:37 PM\']
We've long established that the fanb0iz will buy pretty much anything with a TPIR logo...
[/quote]
Or anything in general that uses the "Pricedown" font -- I wonder how many "Grand Theft Auto" fans are also fans of TPIR (or vice versa)?
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On the screenshots, for the show main menu, I notice one airdate of "9/3/72", AKA the day before the premiere, AKA a Sunday. Is that just a typo, or a set date for that week's syndie episodes, which I'm guessing bicycled back then?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'181742\' date=\'Mar 17 2008, 01:20 PM\']On the screenshots, for the show main menu, I notice one airdate of "9/3/72", AKA the day before the premiere, AKA a Sunday. Is that just a typo, or a set date for that week's syndie episodes, which I'm guessing bicycled back then?[/quote]
The dates shown in the menu are tapedates. The airdates will be on a guide included in the package.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'181742\' date=\'Mar 17 2008, 01:20 PM\']
On the screenshots, for the show main menu, I notice one airdate of "9/3/72", AKA the day before the premiere, AKA a Sunday. Is that just a typo, or a set date for that week's syndie episodes, which I'm guessing bicycled back then?
[/quote]
Those dates on that menu are the VTR dates for those episodes. Check a few posts back for the link to the airdate list I compiled and that should clear up the confusion.
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I just got the set from Best Buy....and it appears the premiere is not on it.
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We knew it wouldn't be. A fur coat was offered as the first IUFB. How did you get a copy so early? Was it in the store or from BestBuy.com?
Greg
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Wow, no wonder I didn't realize it was out until I was at Best Buy! The Best Buy here in Phoenix had it out a week early! (So for those of you in Phoenix, quick go to Best Buy before they realize their mistake!)
But I knew the first IUFB was a fur coat, but I must've missed the post that said it was cancelled. I don't mind, I have it on tape anyways :)
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[quote name=\'gsgalaxy82\' post=\'181852\' date=\'Mar 18 2008, 09:39 PM\']
Wow, no wonder I didn't realize it was out until I was at Best Buy! The Best Buy here in Phoenix had it out a week early! (So for those of you in Phoenix, quick go to Best Buy before they realize their mistake!) [/quote]
Ooh, they can get in trouble for that if they make a habit of it. Most retailers get their stock several days in advance, so that everybody puts it out at the same time and nobody is inconvenienced because their UPS deliveries come later in the day than their rivals across town. System only works, though, if everybody plays fair.
An entire week early does seem like an awfully long lead time, though. Could BCI have gotten it out earlier than they planned, and the store mistakenly thought it truly was part of this week's releases?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'181868\' date=\'Mar 18 2008, 11:04 PM\']
[quote name=\'gsgalaxy82\' post=\'181852\' date=\'Mar 18 2008, 09:39 PM\']
Wow, no wonder I didn't realize it was out until I was at Best Buy! The Best Buy here in Phoenix had it out a week early! (So for those of you in Phoenix, quick go to Best Buy before they realize their mistake!) [/quote]
Ooh, they can get in trouble for that if they make a habit of it. Most retailers get their stock several days in advance, so that everybody puts it out at the same time and nobody is inconvenienced because their UPS deliveries come later in the day than their rivals across town. System only works, though, if everybody plays fair.
An entire week early does seem like an awfully long lead time, though. Could BCI have gotten it out earlier than they planned, and the store mistakenly thought it truly was part of this week's releases?
[/quote]
That very well could've been it Matt. We have two Best Buy's in the area and only one had it stocked. When I was at the one that had it I said "Oh, they didn't have this at the other store!". I was bored and decided to go to the other one because it's right next to the mall and figured it couldn't hurt to take a second look at the new releases, see if I missed anything. Good thing I did, haha. Actually though, I told someone, it's not like it was a huge blockbuster movie, I don't think anyone will knock the doors down to get a TPIR DVD.
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I have my copy, and it is amazing.
I have just watched #0012D (ep 2) and #1585D (fifth experimental hr long ep), and the episodes are in freaking amazing quality. 1585D has some excellent moments with Bob and the contestants (notably how complex Card Game is made).
Sadly for Barker-lovers, it really shows how far Barker "fell" in his hosting abilities from the 70s to today.
(Also doesn't bode well for Fields either...in direct competition with Olsen and Pardo).
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'182451\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 04:16 PM\']
I have my copy, and it is amazing.
I have just watched #0012D (ep 2) and #1585D (fifth experimental hr long ep), and the episodes are in freaking amazing quality. 1585D has some excellent moments with Bob and the contestants (notably how complex Card Game is made).
Sadly for Barker-lovers, it really shows how far Barker "fell" in his hosting abilities from the 70s to today.
(Also doesn't bode well for Fields either...in direct competition with Olsen and Pardo).
[/quote]
Anybody find a good price on it in-store? I ended up ordering from Amazon.com after none of the Sunday paper ads mentioned its release.
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Not sure about anywhere else, but I paid $29.99 for it at Best Buy on Saturday.
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I'm holding out for the $10 bin.
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Or the $4.99 FamilyVideo.com one-day sale.
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[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'182457\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 06:08 PM\']
Or the $4.99 FamilyVideo.com one-day sale.
[/quote]
Only if you like badgering the company until it ships what it promised.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'182459\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 03:21 PM\']
Only if you like badgering the company until it ships what it promised.[/quote]
For $5? It was worth it. (Especially when they never bothered charging my credit card for the $5.)
Would I give them any other business? Absolutely not.
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DeepDiscount (http://\"http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=38379313\") has it for $22.14.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'182461\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 03:51 PM\']
DeepDiscount (http://\"http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=38379313\") has it for $22.14.
[/quote]
And these guys I can recommend without reservations. I've done a fair amount of business with them, and I've never had a problem. If $22.14 is a price you're willing to pay, absolutely go with them.
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I got mine today for $29.99 (too much?). Anyway, I watched 3 episodes so far, and I was especially interested in the Oct 1975 episodes just before the show expanded to an hour.
On the Monday ep, Bert Convy drops by; and on Tuesday Charles Nelson Reilly actually "comes on down" to congratulate Bob on the expansion to an hour starting the following week. I don't believe these episodes ever aired on GSN (and since I was in school when they did, it was my first time seeing them!)
If they were going to pick an entire week to put on the discs, it should have been this one. I think it's probable that the Wed-Thurs-Fri shows that week also had guests congratulating them - anyone know who they were?
I think they were quite inventive with the tix plugs as well.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'182465\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 07:20 PM\']
I got mine today for $29.99 (too much?).
[/quote]
Remember when that would have been a great price given the exchange rate? :(
/ Going to Canada later this year
// I'm saving my loonies for poutine
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I'd sure like to know how the people writing the notes came up with 3/10/57 as the date for the Cullen daytime show (the oldest surviving TPIR and the first one that GSN always aired in their cycle of episodes) when all the comments made on the show clearly indicate it's still February.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'182451\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 05:16 PM\']1585D has some excellent moments with Bob and the contestants (notably how complex Card Game is made).[/quote]
Odd thing I've discovered about this recently...this is the only appearance of Card Game in 1975 between July 24 and November 8.
Actually, based on the game lineups of September 8-12 and November 3-7 (the lists are identical aside from Range Game and Poker Game flip-flopping between Monday and Tuesday, and Poker Game and 1 Right Price are in similar situations to Card Game), I've got a theory going that the "trial hour shows" weren't planned until the hour format was already finalized...I think they just scrapped whatever they'd originally had planned for that week and duplicated the lineups from November. There's things about them that just don't make a lot of sense otherwise.
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[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'182480\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 11:14 PM\']
I'd sure like to know how the people writing the notes came up with 3/10/57 as the date for the Cullen daytime show (the oldest surviving TPIR and the first one that GSN always aired in their cycle of episodes) when all the comments made on the show clearly indicate it's still February.
[/quote]
Well, I don't know how much more to the source I can get; but I wrote the notes.
I was given the episodes dates directly from BCI/Fremantle and did what I could with them. Granted, I didn't see the Cullen eps (as several eps were switched around before production) when I was tasked to do the notes, but I did what I could with what I was given.
If you had complained about my typo of the episode taped in 75 but aired in 73...I could take some blame ;)
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'182461\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 03:51 PM\']
DeepDiscount (http://\"http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=38379313\") has it for $22.14.
[/quote]
...but now have it on backorder until April 5th.
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A whole nine days? Oh noes! Everybody panic!
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[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'181851\' date=\'Mar 18 2008, 09:35 PM\']
We knew it wouldn't be. A fur coat was offered as the first IUFB.
[/quote]
But there is a leather outfit from Zinman Furs in one of the mid-70's episodes, and there is even a prize plug for Kentucky Fried Chicken, which has been on the attack by Pamela Anderson and her PETA colleagues. Do not forget the meat products, such as bacon packages, in some of these early Grocery Game rounds (too many of those on the DVD set).
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'182451\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 05:16 PM\']
Sadly for Barker-lovers, it really shows how far Barker "fell" in his hosting abilities from the 70s to today.
[/quote]
Darn right...Barker was fantastic in the 1970's and 1980's, I will admit, after I watched all on this DVD box set. Looking and hearing him speak at such a lackluster manner during his last week of hosting was pathetic at most. Glad he's retired, because Barker was running on fumes at the end.
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[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'182548\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 03:40 PM\']
But there is a leather outfit from Zinman Furs in one of the mid-70's episodes, and there is even a prize plug for Kentucky Fried Chicken, which has been on the attack by Pamela Anderson and her PETA colleagues. [/quote]
Not sure whether you're being facetious or not, but Pamela Anderson and her PETA colleages were not the Executive Producer of The Price Is Right. Bob simply had a problem with the furs, he was not specifically representing PETA or their sometimes extremist views.
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[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'182548\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 01:40 PM\']
Darn right...Barker was fantastic in the 1970's and 1980's, I will admit, after I watched all on this DVD box set. Looking and hearing him speak at such a lackluster manner during his last week of hosting was pathetic at most. Glad he's retired, because Barker was running on fumes at the end.
[/quote]
It should go without saying that a man of 47 or so would have much more energy than a man of 82... That he wasn't as lively in his last week should hardly be considered surprising. Now, I'm all for criticizing some of Bob's decisions as executive producer, but this seems a bit extreme to me...
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' post=\'182562\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 03:02 PM\']
It should go without saying that a man of 47 or so would have much more energy than a man of 82...[/quote]
It should also go without saying that when the energy level drops to the point where you can't do the job competently anymore, you quit.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'182563\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 06:11 PM\']
[quote name=\'isucgv\' post=\'182562\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 03:02 PM\']
It should go without saying that a man of 47 or so would have much more energy than a man of 82...[/quote]
It should also go without saying that when the energy level drops to the point where you can't do the job competently anymore, you quit.
[/quote]
And there's our winner.
Barker should have retired at 25 years of Price. Everything else jumped the bell curve.
Now, in 1997, who would have ended up as host? I'd wager Michael Burger.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'182569\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 07:11 PM\']
Now, in 1997, who would have ended up as host? I'd wager Michael Burger.
[/quote]
My money's on Marc Summers, MAYBE Chuck Woolery.
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I'm sure Burger would have been on the list. CBS seemed to go to Gordon Elliot or Mark McEuen for their game pilots, so they might have been in the running as well. Maybe Peter Tomarken.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'182573\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 07:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'182569\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 07:11 PM\']
Now, in 1997, who would have ended up as host? I'd wager Michael Burger.[/quote]My money's on Marc Summers, MAYBE Chuck Woolery.[/quote]
I feel bad when this happens, but every time I think Marc Summers would be a great host for Price, I wonder if he would be able to handle the more.....enthusiastic contestants. I doubt it would've been an issue, but I'm not sure if a network would want to take that liability.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'182599\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 10:26 PM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'182573\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 07:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'182569\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 07:11 PM\']
Now, in 1997, who would have ended up as host? I'd wager Michael Burger.[/quote]My money's on Marc Summers, MAYBE Chuck Woolery.[/quote]
I feel bad when this happens, but every time I think Marc Summers would be a great host for Price, I wonder if he would be able to handle the more.....enthusiastic contestants. I doubt it would've been an issue, but I'm not sure if a network would want to take that liability.
[/quote]
He would have handled them the same way Howie Mandel handles his contestants.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'182599\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 10:26 PM\']
I feel bad when this happens, but every time I think Marc Summers would be a great host for Price, I wonder if he would be able to handle the more.....enthusiastic contestants. I doubt it would've been an issue, but I'm not sure if a network would want to take that liability.
[/quote]
Per usual, I have no idea what the hell he's talking about.
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Got the DVD and have viewed all shows on Disc 1. The shows, including Cullen's versions, are of amazing quality. And that contestant Booboo was something else on Barker's first week, asking if the trip to London in the showcase was by plane or boat. It she asked that during Barker's last week as host, he would probably given her a verbal lashing. But it's fun to see how the show evolved into what it is now.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'182603\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 10:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'182599\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 10:26 PM\']
I feel bad when this happens, but every time I think Marc Summers would be a great host for Price, I wonder if he would be able to handle the more.....enthusiastic contestants. I doubt it would've been an issue, but I'm not sure if a network would want to take that liability.[/quote]
Per usual, I have no idea what the hell he's talking about.[/quote]
It's an I'm-so-smart reference to the fact that Summers has OCD and would, presumably, be uncomfortable with a lot of physical contact. The fact that he spent the better part of a decade hosting an extremely physical show with hyperactive kids and green ooze everywhere would seem to counter that notion in an instant, but then you wouldn't get to show off your Summers Fun Fact.
/Is 'liability' really the right word here? "Your host didn't hug me back, so I'm going to sue!"
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'182609\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 08:32 PM\']
It's an I'm-so-smart reference to the fact that Summers has OCD and would, presumably, be uncomfortable with a lot of physical contact. The fact that he spent the better part of a decade hosting an extremely physical show with hyperactive kids and green ooze everywhere would seem to counter that notion in an instant, but then you wouldn't get to show off your Summers Fun Fact.[/quote]
Can we get a Photoshop of someone approaching Obstacle #7, "FAIL"?
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Here's another Summers Fun Fact: his ThighMaster has sold over 14 million units since 1994.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'182613\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 11:51 PM\']
Can we get a Photoshop of someone approaching Obstacle #7, "FAIL"?
[/quote]How's about this, even more apropos, IMO:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7766/ddfailse4.jpg (http://\"http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7766/ddfailse4.jpg\")
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'182620\' date=\'Mar 27 2008, 12:41 AM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'182613\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 11:51 PM\']
Can we get a Photoshop of someone approaching Obstacle #7, "FAIL"?
[/quote]How's about this, even more apropos, IMO:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7766/ddfailse4.jpg (http://\"http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7766/ddfailse4.jpg\")
[/quote]
Beat me to the punch. Well played!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'182613\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 11:51 PM\']Can we get a Photoshop of someone approaching Obstacle #7, "FAIL"?
[/quote]
This good enough? http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1619/ddfaildq2.jpg (http://\"http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1619/ddfaildq2.jpg\")
EDIT: Darn, too slow.
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Well done on both counts, gentlemen. NJ137 gets the bonus point for using the correct obstacle number as well.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'182569\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 07:11 PM\']
Now, in 1997, who would have ended up as host? I'd wager Michael Burger.
[/quote]
A recent thread (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14726&hl=\") on this very question.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'182617\' date=\'Mar 27 2008, 12:01 AM\']
Here's another Summers Fun Fact: his ThighMaster has sold over 14 million units since 1994.[/quote]
OK, this made me laugh.
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' post=\'182562\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 06:02 PM\']
It should go without saying that a man of 47 or so would have much more energy than a man of 82... That he wasn't as lively in his last week should hardly be considered surprising. Now, I'm all for criticizing some of Bob's decisions as executive producer, but this seems a bit extreme to me...
[/quote]
Maybe my comments were read as a bit too harsh at most, but I could see that Barker may appeared to be too laid back in his performance as on-air host towards the end of his run. It is amazing that at his age, Barker was able to the show as able he could do it.
If my comments offended anyone, then my apologies and so be it. Okay, I did see a slight bit more energy (but not much) than usual in Barker during his final episode, which was indeed a very good and memorable show too.
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[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'182650\' date=\'Mar 27 2008, 09:19 AM\']
Maybe my comments were read as a bit too harsh at most, but I could see that Barker may appeared to be too laid back in his performance as on-air host towards the end of his run.[/quote]
I don't think I've ever seen so many words used to say "he phoned it in."
It is amazing that at his age, Barker was able to the show as able he could do it.
People can fail at any age, you don't have to be old to do it.
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I'm having to get these second-hand now . . . "in his performance as on-air host"??? As opposed to his participation as off-air contestant, I suppose.
I think 25 years would have best to keep memories (moderately) fond, but even 30 would have been justifiable with regards to basic competence. After that, though . . . I wish not to make fun of either older people in general or Bob Barker in particular, but the man was forgetting huge swaths of game rules and replacing them with mumbling.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'182656\' date=\'Mar 27 2008, 12:04 PM\']People can fail at any age, you don't have to be old to do it.[/quote]Indeed (http://\"http://pylp.fastpalaces.com/ryanleaf.jpg\").
(not the best Paint job [my own], but still)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'182551\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 03:02 PM\']
[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'182548\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 03:40 PM\']
But there is a leather outfit from Zinman Furs in one of the mid-70's episodes, and there is even a prize plug for Kentucky Fried Chicken, which has been on the attack by Pamela Anderson and her PETA colleagues. [/quote]
Not sure whether you're being facetious or not, but Pamela Anderson and her PETA colleages were not the Executive Producer of The Price Is Right. Bob simply had a problem with the furs, he was not specifically representing PETA or their sometimes extremist views.
[/quote]
Bob didn't have a problem with meat and leather (since leather is made from cows which are killed for meat); Bob, like many others, have a problem with furs since animals are raised and killed JUST for the fur.
[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'182548\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 02:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'182451\' date=\'Mar 25 2008, 05:16 PM\']
Sadly for Barker-lovers, it really shows how far Barker "fell" in his hosting abilities from the 70s to today.
[/quote]
Darn right...Barker was fantastic in the 1970's and 1980's, I will admit, after I watched all on this DVD box set. Looking and hearing him speak at such a lackluster manner during his last week of hosting was pathetic at most. Glad he's retired, because Barker was running on fumes at the end.
[/quote]
I have to agree here as well. I was sad to see Bob retire initially, but after seeing the episodes from the 70's and how energetic and upbeat he was, it made me realize how decrepid and tired he seemed to become. He probably should have retired sooner, even at the 30th year hosting TPIR. But he probably wanted to reach his 50th year in TV before retiring, and if I was him, I would have done the same.
Watching the DVDs, it's fascinating to see the people and prices from the 70's, as well as the horrid designs on some of the products. Does anyone know why none of the shows from the 80's were included? I read (probably through here), that it had something to do with Dian Parkinson and all that nonsense that happened with her on the show, but Dian is in the last episode on disc 3, which was the first show of the hour-long format. So it's not for that reason.
On a side note, Janice Pennington used to be really pretty compared to how she looked in the 80's and 90's. She looked a lot different too before what I presume was a lot of facelifts :)
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[quote name=\'eday_2010\' post=\'182849\' date=\'Mar 30 2008, 10:30 AM\']
Bob didn't have a problem with meat and leather (since leather is made from cows which are killed for meat); Bob, like many others, have a problem with furs since animals are raised and killed JUST for the fur.[/quote]
Spoken like a man who has never enjoyed a steaming dish of ermine!
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[quote name=\'eday_2010\' post=\'182849\' date=\'Mar 30 2008, 01:30 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'182551\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 03:02 PM\'][quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'182548\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 03:40 PM\']But there is a leather outfit from Zinman Furs in one of the mid-70's episodes, and there is even a prize plug for Kentucky Fried Chicken, which has been on the attack by Pamela Anderson and her PETA colleagues.[/quote]Not sure whether you're being facetious or not, but Pamela Anderson and her PETA colleages were not the Executive Producer of The Price Is Right. Bob simply had a problem with the furs, he was not specifically representing PETA or their sometimes extremist views.[/quote]Bob didn't have a problem with meat and leather (since leather is made from cows which are killed for meat); Bob, like many others, have a problem with furs since animals are raised and killed JUST for the fur.[/quote]
Yes, and I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the grills offered on the show prior to this season were always barbecuing vegetables.
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Could also be because vegetables can last longer under hot studio lights than a yummy piece of steak before it starts to reek. Or it could be because Bobpushed his vegetarian ways on the show. Doesn't really matter anymore since Bobby is no longer there.
I amstill curious about the lack of 80's episodes in the DVD set though...
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[quote name=\'eday_2010\' post=\'182849\' date=\'Mar 30 2008, 12:30 PM\']
On a side note, Janice Pennington used to be really pretty compared to how she looked in the 80's and 90's. She looked a lot different too before what I presume was a lot of facelifts :)
[/quote]
Yeah, thank heavens Barker had his faculties long enough to kick her to the curb before she'd drag down the whole show by being old.
I miss Anitra.
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[quote name=\'eday_2010\' post=\'182884\' date=\'Mar 30 2008, 11:29 PM\']Could also be because vegetables can last longer under hot studio lights than a yummy piece of steak before it starts to reek.[/quote]
Could also be that the vegetables were plastic.
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[quote name=\'eday_2010\' post=\'182849\' date=\'Mar 30 2008, 10:30 AM\']Bob didn't have a problem with meat and leather (since leather is made from cows which are killed for meat); Bob, like many others, have a problem with furs since animals are raised and killed JUST for the fur.[/quote]
Here's part of an interview Bob had with Larry King on December 26, 2002:
(http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0212/26/lkl.00.html for the whole thing)
BARKER: I want them to live their life the way nature intended. I don't approve of hunting. I don't approve of mistreating or making an animal miserable.
KING: But you're not a vegetarian.
BARKER: Oh, yes, I am.
KING: You are.
BARKER: I became a vegetarian out of concern for animals. But I'll tell you, I hadn't been a vegetarian long before I realized I could understand why people have become vegetarians for health reasons.
KING: How about wearing leather?
BARKER: I don't wear leather either.
KING: Soles of your shoes.
BARKER: I try to wear shoes that are not leather.
KING: You can buy shoes that are not leather.
BARKER: You can.
Ever notice, even on the Drew Carey episodes, that none of the food items have meat in them? (The "Hot Pockets" are "cheese pizza", for example.)
-- Don
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'182952\' date=\'Mar 31 2008, 09:13 PM\']Ever notice, even on the Drew Carey episodes, that none of the food items have meat in them? (The "Hot Pockets" are "cheese pizza", for example.)
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NO! There's no way that the cheesy-goodness of my "Cheese Pizza" Hot Pockets are part of some Barker meat-spiracy.
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[quote name=\'Hastin\' post=\'182959\' date=\'Apr 1 2008, 01:29 AM\']
[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'182952\' date=\'Mar 31 2008, 09:13 PM\']Ever notice, even on the Drew Carey episodes, that none of the food items have meat in them? (The "Hot Pockets" are "cheese pizza", for example.)
[/quote]
NO! There's no way that the cheesy-goodness of my "Cheese Pizza" Hot Pockets are part of some Barker meat-spiracy.
[/quote]
To find out what IS part of the Barker meat-spiracy, you need to consult some former models' court transcripts.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'182885\' date=\'Mar 30 2008, 10:31 PM\']
Yeah, thank heavens Barker had his faculties long enough to kick her to the curb before she'd drag down the whole show by being old.
I miss Anitra.
[/quote]
There is something about her face that I found weird. I think it was her eyes (one seemed quite off compared to the other), but it could be her huge hair, overly-tanned skin, or something else. But overall, I thought she was quite a good model. There was just something about her look that I found "different".
[quote name=\''dale_grass'\']To find out what IS part of the Barker meat-spiracy, you need to consult some former models' court transcripts.[/quote]
Are these transcripts available? Have they ever been released? They would sure be a fascinating read.
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[quote name=\'eday_2010\' post=\'183011\' date=\'Apr 1 2008, 08:41 PM\']
There is something about her face that I found weird. I think it was her eyes (one seemed quite off compared to the other), but it could be her huge hair, overly-tanned skin, or something else. But overall, I thought she was quite a good model. There was just something about her look that I found "different".
[/quote]
One man's "different" is another man's "exotic."
Hubba hubba!
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'183163\' date=\'Apr 3 2008, 10:49 AM\']
[quote name=\'eday_2010\' post=\'183011\' date=\'Apr 1 2008, 08:41 PM\']
There is something about her face that I found weird. I think it was her eyes (one seemed quite off compared to the other), but it could be her huge hair, overly-tanned skin, or something else. But overall, I thought she was quite a good model. There was just something about her look that I found "different".
[/quote]
One man's "different" is another man's "exotic."
Hubba hubba!
[/quote]
AMEN!
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'183163\' date=\'Apr 3 2008, 10:49 AM\']
One man's "different" is another man's "exotic."
Hubba hubba!
[/quote]
And here is a 1999 photo of Anitra herself from the alumni web page of her high school class (of 1960)...
http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/a7b.jpg (http://\"http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/a7b.jpg\")
The accompanying caption found on the website (scroll down to the middle of the page below) states that, "Anitra is a published poet and her artwork has been exhibited in several Santa Barbara galleries."
http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/mcnbrhd.htm (http://\"http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/mcnbrhd.htm\")
Yeah, Anitra is older, but still is attractive, no doubt. She must had a thing for hats when that photo was taken...