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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: game show guy on June 07, 2007, 06:29:04 PM
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Warning: LONG post
Well, I want this thread to show that alot of people here want to see the GSN weekend schedule revamped sometime soon.
So, If you would, please post why exactly you want the weekend schedule changed on GSN, want you want removed, and what you would want to see on it. Also, please be as detailed with your post if you can.
I will start with this, so here it goes.
The weekend schedule (Saturdays and Sundays) on GSN, In my opinion has really gotten from bad to worse in the past couple of years. Let me explain some more about this trend.
GSN's weekend schedule, from September 2004-April 2005, was the best lineup for Game Shows you could find on the schedule then. We had from 9am-12pm- Card Sharks (Jim Perry) and (Bob Eubanks), Blockbusters (Bill Cullen), Hollywood Squares (Tom Bergeron), Match Game (Syndicated 1979-1982- Gene Rayburn), and Press Your Luck (Peter Tomarken).
Ever since GSN brought back the classics to the daytime lineup witch was in April of 2005, the weekend schedule has just gotten old and worse because want they did was they put the Shows from the Weekend Schedule, Match Game (April 2005), Blockbusters (April 2005) Password Plus (April 2005) Super Password (April 2005), Press Your Luck (January of 2006), Card Sharks (July 2006), and Hollywood Squares (July 2006) to the weekdays.
GSN did change its weekend schedule the weekend of June 10th, 2006 (last year) If I can remember right. However, all they did was put Password Plus, Super Password, and a double run of Lingo in. Which all these shows that they added to the weekend schedule, were already on the weekday schedule.
Right now, the weekend schedule has gotten even worse because they put their WAY overran originals, Whammy! and Chain Reaction on the weekdays and effective tomorrow, adding one Chain Reaction airing to make it an hour on the weekends, replacing Match Game PM.
Here is my whole point to this. Right now the weekend schedule has very few shows that are actually worth watching because over half of the stuff on the weekends you can find on the weekday schedule. The ONLY and I mean ONLY things on the weekend schedule right now that are NOT things you can see on weekdays are the following:
Child's Play (Bill Cullen)
Card Sharks (Bill Rafferty)
Match Game PM (Gene Rayburn)
Greed (Chuck Woolery) (Saturday Only)
The 50 Greatest Game Shows Of All Time (Bil Dywer) (Saturday Only)
I've Got A Secret 2006 (Bil Dywer) (Saturday Only)
That is right, only 6 (six) shows on the weekends that are NOT found on the weekdays. And In my opinion, only 5 out of the 6 of these shows are worth watching, you should know which show I do not enjoy to watch. And when the 50 Greatest Game Shows special finishes on July 7th, what will take its place? If its more stuff you can find on the weekday schedule, then just, wow...
This brings me to another point with this. Who really wants to watch the same shows 7 (Seven) days a week? The shorter lived shows and Sony shows like Blockbusters- December 1980-April 1982, less then two years it ran, Hollywood Squares-only has the 2003-2004 season at the moment. I know it takes longer to cycle on the weekends, but, Blockbusters, Hollywood Squares, and Match Game SYN have been on the weekend schedule since January of 2003, which was the last time the schedule was revamped. I mean I love all these shows on the weekend, but, I already watch and tape them 5 (five) days a week. I know they have them on a different cycle then the weekdays, but, I would think the people who watch GSN often, would want some Variety in the schedule. This is where "Variety" comes into play.
GSN has so many good G/T (Goodson/Todman) shows that are not being shown that could be shown on the weekend schedule like, 1972 I've Got A Secret, To Tell The Truth, CBS Password, Tattletales, Now You See It, etc...
This is what could be done to the weekend schedule that wouldn't be too hard for GSN to do.
Put Bill Rafferty's Blockbusters in the Bill Cullen slot at 10am.
Put a different year of Match Game in the 11am slot like the CBS years, 76 77, 78, etc..
Put the Tom Kennedy Password Plus episodes from the beginning in the slot at 11:30.
Replace Hollywood Squares at 10:30am, Press Your Luck at 12:30PM, Whammy at Noon, Karn Feud 4:00 and 4:30, Love Connection at 1PM, Millionaire at 5PM, Greed at 7PM and the 100,000^8th airings of Chain Reaction at 2:30-3:30PM and Lingo at 1:30-2:30PM for:
Now You See It, Double Dare 1976, I've Got A Secret 1972, Body Language, Ray Combs Family Feud, Bob Eubanks Card Sharks, and other rare Goodson Todman classics, or Sony shows, i.e The 100,000 Pyramid that are NOT on the weekdays.
Super Password hour, and the Dawson 5hr. marathons (Sunday night only) are fine to stay. As well as, Child's Play, Match Game PM, 50 Greatest Game Shows, I've Got A Secret 2006, and Card Sharks (Bill Rafferty).
One last thing, when I got GSN in 2000, there were shows on the weekends that were not on the weekdays and shows on weekdays not on weekends like this:
Weekdays ONLY in December 2000:
Hot Potato
CBS The Jokers Wild
Celeb. Family Feud
Weekends ONLY in December 2000:
Tic Tac Dough
Tattletales
CBS Password
Body Language
They did it 6.5 years ago. Why not do it NOW???
I am done ranting on for now. I want everyone else to say there thoughts as well.
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154565\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 05:29 PM\']
So, If you would, please post why exactly you want the weekend schedule changed on GSN, want you want removed, and what you would want to see on it. Also, please be as detailed with your post if you can. [/quote]
I don't want to see the weekend schedule changed. I don't get a chance to view it often during the week.
That is right, only 6 (six) shows on the weekends that are NOT found on the weekdays
And when you go on in the post, you say 2000 was better, but then, they only had four shows that were "weekends only".
And In my opinion, only 5 out of the 6 of these shows are worth watching, you should know which show I do not enjoy to watch.
I suspect the majority of people reading this don't know what show you dislike. Sometimes C/Ping a thread from GSN's boards doesn't always work.
I think this is one more backhanded way for you to gripe about GSN. Furthermore, your title reads "Why GSN...?" but as far as I can tell, you never give a coherent reason why they should.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'154570\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 06:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154565\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 05:29 PM\']
So, If you would, please post why exactly you want the weekend schedule changed on GSN, want you want removed, and what you would want to see on it. Also, please be as detailed with your post if you can. [/quote]
I don't want to see the weekend schedule changed. I don't get a chance to view it often during the week.
you never give a reason why they should
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I explain the reason why in the top of my thread. They should change it because the last time it was revamped was January of 2003. And on top of that, some of the shows right now on the schedule have been there since it was revamped in 2003 (http://\"http://www.gameshowfavorites.com/schedules/20030106.html\"). If you click the link I have posted, it will show the schedule for January 2003.
Also, ever since they done that revamp in 2003, after that they started to remove the good shows, i.e., Win, Lose, or Draw, Wheel of Fortune, Peter Marshall Hollywood Squares, $100,000 Pyramid, Trivia Trap, etc.... and replaced all of that with Tom Bergeron Squares, yuck, way too many airings of Lingo, and Chain Reaction, Love Connection is still on the schedule, another millionaire airing added, putting shows that are already on the weekday schedule to weekends, i.e. password plus, super password, etc..
All in all, the bottom line what I want to see GSN do more is[/b] "Variety" . They have so many shows that they refuse to take out of the vaults, i.e. TTTT, WML, Tattletales, etc... and instead, they put on their own shows and put the same stuff that is on weekdays to weekends.
Did you not read my last words at the bottom of the first post? When in 2000, GSN had different shows on weekends and had much more Variety??
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154565\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 06:29 PM\']
They did it 6.5 years ago. Why not do it NOW???
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Because it didn't work for them ratings-wise 6.5 years ago, that's why.
I know they have them on a different cycle then the weekdays, but, I would think the people who watch GSN often, would want some Variety in the schedule.
And as others have stated in far greater detail in the past, I dare say that what you would think and what GSN's ratings data and other studies show likely are miles apart.
As has been explained to you in the past, GSN is in business to make money, not to be nice to the diehard game show fans. If most people don't notice (never mind care) that GSN's showing the same thing on weekends and weekdays, GSN's going to keep doing it because it works and because it's less expensive than leasing more shows from the Sony library.
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There were more then that including, Rock+Roll Jeopardy, To Tell The Truth, I've Got A Secret, Beat The Clock, The Dating Game. There that is a total of 10 shows that were different. And I know there was more.
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^They don't have to put shows from the sony library on. They can put a bunch of stuff from The Goodson/Todman library on like Now You See It, To Tell The Truth, Whats My Line, and others.
Also, if they keep the weekend schedule the way it is, then no skin off my back. I will just do something else during the weekends then. I will watch the shows I want to watch, and not watch what I don't want to watch.
I guess I should have recorded more stuff off of the superior 2000 weekend schedule, IMHO, if I'd known they were going to do this to the weekends now. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154574\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 06:57 PM\']
I explain the reason why in the top of my thread. They should change it because the last time it was revamped was January of 2003.[/quote]
Why should they do a more extensive revamp now when there's no evidence that it will get higher ratings, particularly when your definition of a "revamp" is "adding many more classics," something that's actually been shown not to work?
Emphasis mine:
All in all, the bottom line what I want to see GSN do more is[/b] "Variety" . They have so many shows that they refuse to take out of the vaults, i.e. TTTT, WML, Tattletales, etc... and instead, they put on their own shows and put the same stuff that is on weekdays to weekends.
This is the distinction you're missing: "what GSG would like GSN to do" and "what GSN should do" are not the same thing. GSN needs to do what it takes to make money, and that involves catering to a wide audience, not just diehard game show fans.
[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154578\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 07:07 PM\']
^They don't have to put shows from the sony library on. They can put a bunch of stuff from The Goodson/Todman library on like Now You See It, To Tell The Truth, Whats My Line, and others.
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Again, if adding more classics doesn't help them make money, why should they do it?
Again: "Because the last time GSN showed The $100,000 Pull My Finger was in 2000" is an explanation for why you might want GSN to show The $100,000 Pull My Finger. It is not in any way a justification for why GSN actually should show The $100,000 Pull My Finger. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you'll understand why GSN does what it does.
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You know David, I don't care anymore about how GSN programs the weekends. I really don't. I will watch if I want to.
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154583\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 04:22 PM\']
You know David, I don't care anymore about how GSN programs the weekends. I really don't. I will watch if I want to.
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So, wait. Now that your long-winded thesis has been efficiently and thoroughly refuted, you're gonna play the "Oh, I didn't care anyhow!" card?
Enjoy your Prize (http://\"http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8675/youwintheprizezk9.jpg\").
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^yep, I am dead serious too:) Again, I will watch the good stuff, and find something else to do during the shows that are on weekdays that are on.
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What I think should be permanently on GSN's weekend schedule:
- the 10/17/84 episode of daytime TPiR
- episode 3 of Show Me The Money
- episode 1 of The Rich List
- episode 71 of Narz Now You See It
- three consecutive episodes of World Series of Blackjack
- the 9/16/85 daytime episode of WoF
- episode 345 of Press Your Luck
The rest can be infomercials. This list will be repeated every Saturday and Sunday for the rest of time.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'154588\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 08:04 PM\']
What I think should be permanently on GSN's weekend schedule:
- the 10/17/84 episode of daytime TPiR
- episode 3 of Show Me The Money
- episode 1 of The Rich List
- episode 71 of Narz Now You See It
- three consecutive episodes of World Series of Blackjack
- the 9/16/85 daytime episode of WoF
- episode 345 of Press Your Luck
The rest can be infomercials. This list will be repeated every Saturday and Sunday for the rest of time.
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And no credit crunches!!!1!!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'154584\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 04:35 PM\']
So, wait. Now that your long-winded thesis has been efficiently and thoroughly refuted, you're gonna play the "Oh, I didn't care anyhow!" card?
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154585\' date=\'Jun 7 2007, 04:38 PM\']
^yep, I am dead serious too:)
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Everybody, all together, sing it with me: Wow.
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Nobody should be dead serious on this forum :)
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Memo to Mr. GSG: no matter how many times you might wish otherwise, the definition of "discussion" still is not "I say something and everyone agrees with me."
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Time to throw in my 2 cents...
GSN, overall, is much better than it was between 1998 and 2001. If you look at the game show offerings on there now, sure, there's no Joker, Tic Tac, or Hot Potato on the schedule now, but there is more variety. Back then, you would see a 4 hour block, and then you'd get the same block again immediately after. Be lucky GSN isn't the way it was in those days. If it still were, you'd REALLY be whining over a Hot Potato revival being shot on a set resembling a basement.
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To each his own, I guess. I liked it back in 98. Sunday Night in Black and White was a treat, Moore TTTT. I had the foresight to tape the stuff I liked, but I usually kept the TV on GSN all the time back then. Can't say I do that now. I don't watch GSN at all in primetime, as it is either recent reruns or shows that don't interest me. How many times can you watch the same five guys play poker?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'154620\' date=\'Jun 8 2007, 02:25 AM\']
To each his own, I guess. I liked it back in 98. Sunday Night in Black and White was a treat, Moore TTTT. I had the foresight to tape the stuff I liked, but I usually kept the TV on GSN all the time back then. Can't say I do that now. I don't watch GSN at all in primetime, as it is either recent reruns or shows that don't interest me. How many times can you watch the same five guys play poker?
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Personally, I thought it was excellent in 1998, particularly toward the end of the Dark Period, although there were still some good shows then as well (i.e. Treasure Hunt). The post-DP lineup made for some fun times. One of my fondest memories was going to the mall, and sneaking to the TV section and flipping to GSN. :-) At the time, I'd only heard of Card Sharks and Match Game, so seeing full episodes was gold to me.
Similarly, my mom's old job had a Dish system, and on the days where I'd go to her job, I'd always sneak to the break room and do the same exact thing. Oh yeah, andnocreditcrunchesw00t! ;-)
What's that phrase about not knowing what you had until it's gone? Hell, I've seen complaints about the 2002 schedule...I'd love to have that back as well.
Thing is, back then, GSN knew what it was. Even when they lost most of the G/T shows, they still knew they were about game shows, mainly classic. The bad originals weren't until 1999-2000. Nowadays, GSN has a serious identity crisis, where they constantly go back and forth. They can't decide whether they want to do classics or originals, reality shows or reality shows with game show elements (and vice versa). I'm not complaining as a fanboi, but as someone who just wants them to be a little more consistent with their decisions, and stop throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.
/and stop crunching the credits! >:o
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[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'154617\' date=\'Jun 8 2007, 12:27 AM\']
Time to throw in my 2 cents...
Back then, you would see a 4 hour block, and then you'd get the same block again immediately after. Be lucky GSN isn't the way it was in those days. If it still were, you'd REALLY be whining over a Hot Potato revival being shot on a set resembling a basement.
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I do agree with you on the 4 hour repeating blocks, those were bad:).
I would not be whining over Hot Potato, or Joker or Tic Tac. These shows to me are very good. Much better then the Hollywood Squares with Tom Bergeron, and the Love Connections and the Awful Chain Reaction that we have now.
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I am getting the impression that all of you guys think that "variety" is airing the same shows on the weekdays and on the weekends. i.e. Blockbusters, Chain Reaction, Whammy, Hollywood Squares, Password Plus, etc... is this correct?
Well, my 2 cents on this is that "variety" to me, means having completely DIFFERENT (key word) shows on the weekdays AND the weekends. That in my opinion, is "variety".
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I forgot one thing.
Change the # of WSoB episodes to 2 and add 4 airings of Thousand Dollar Bee.
No credit crunches either.
/that'll teach em to shut up about GSN's weekend schedule
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154633\' date=\'Jun 8 2007, 09:14 AM\']
I am getting the impression that all of you guys think that "variety" is airing the same shows on the weekdays and on the weekends. i.e. Blockbusters, Chain Reaction, Whammy, Hollywood Squares, Password Plus, etc... is this correct?[/quote]
No. No one is arguing with you about what the word 'variety' means. What we're saying (among many, many other things) is that variety doesn't matter as much as you keep whining that it does.
I know you're frustrated at the fact that you can't get people to go along with what has become a personal crusade for you. Please do not use that frustration to twist other people's arguments against you into something they never said.
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154632\' date=\'Jun 8 2007, 08:02 AM\']
I would not be whining over Hot Potato, or Joker or Tic Tac. These shows to me are very good. [/quote]
And you think the shows now get "rerun abused". How many times did GSN go through the cycle of Hot Potato? 5? 6?
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I would watch Hot Potato until I got every episode. And Tic Tac Dough and The Jokers Wild, had MANY seasons like Match Game and Family Feud, so theres no way they'd get rerunned abused!!
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There are only a handful of things I'd want GSN to do, but it's no skin off my nose if they don't. And that's bring back Joker/Tic Tac (but I can understand WHY, unless it's like those Thom McKee/Joe Dunn episodes then nobody would watch) and fewer repeats of Millionaire (Or start licensing the Vieira version already and shove that into mornings with Reege doing primetime).
And I'd have to agree with the majority that Chain Reaction still sucks. Doesn't matter what season.
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If a GSN original goes into reruns, does it become a "classic"?
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IMHO, the best GSN I saw was early '97, shortly after I got the channel. Awesome shows, an awesome lineup, 24 hours a day of games (before the 4am-9am infomercials, of course). A time when I could literally just turn on GSN anytime and watch for hours. Today's product isn't as good as that, but it is definitely better than what was my least favorite time - I'd have to say around 2000, whenever they did the 4 hour blocks repeating (8am-noon would then repeat noon-4pm, same shows and episodes).
Now that they have East/West Coast feeds, that doesn't really happen anymore. That said, I'm content with GSN's current schedule. They still have lots of classic shows on there, with reruns of their originals thrown in, too. Yes, it could be better, but at least we have it.
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/and stop crunching the credits! >:o
...and pull out a Barry-Enright show once in a while! :)
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^You know, I really enjoyed GSN in 2000 because that is when I first got it. I love game shows alot and now that I think about it, those 4 hour repeat blocks were not bad. I liked them. If I liked the shows they were airing at the time, I would watch it. EVEN if it was the same episode.
Heck, isn't that why people have giant game show collections? To watch the same episodes of there favorites over and over and over again??
I am sorry, but, the variety is lacking a little in todays GSN schedule. Let me explain
In 2000, we had a total of:
25 different game shows total (weekdays + weekends)
GSN's current schedule, we have a total of:
23 different game shows total (weekdays + weekends)
If you do not believe me, then look at This (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/onair/\") and This (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/buzz/showthread.php?t=85688\") as well as This (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/buzz/showthread.php?t=89123\") and count yourself how many different shows were on the schedule. Even with the 4hr. repeat blocks in 2000, it STILL beat out what we have today. GSN just refuses to bring more shows out of the vault and they just move shows around or add some dumb shows i.e. Love Connection/Chain Reaction.
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154657\' date=\'Jun 8 2007, 11:48 AM\']
I am sorry, but, the variety is lacking a little in todays GSN schedule. Let me explain
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Again: we all know what the word "variety" means. We all know that GSN has aired a wider variety of classics in the past than they do now.
Here's my question for you, and I want you to answer it directly, without going into another rant about what GSN aired in the past and what they should be taking out of the vaults now:
How do you know that GSN would get better ratings, and make more money, by airing more classics?
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^And my answer to that question is this.
You see, GSN would get better ratings because why in April 2005 did they get rid of their originals in daytime and put the classics back?? Why since January, have they been airing classic game shows in primetime on Saturday nights from 8-10PM? Why since May 19 have they been airing Dawson Feud marathons in primetime from 7PM-Midnight?
The answer is people like GAME SHOWS they like to watch them. otherwise GSN would not have put the classics back in daytime. The numbers for GSN have gone up in daytime since they have put the classic GAME SHOWS back.
However, the reason the weekend schedule should have different shows on it is because GSN during the classic blocks on Saturdays programmed Double Dare 1976 and Now You See It. These shows did well in ratings so why not put them on the schedule??
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154660\' date=\'Jun 8 2007, 12:11 PM\']
^And my answer to that question is this.
You see, GSN would get better ratings because why in April 2005 did they get rid of their originals in daytime and put the classics back?? Why since January, have they been airing classic game shows in primetime on Saturday nights from 8-10PM? Why since May 19 have they been airing Dawson Feud marathons in primetime from 7PM-Midnight?
The answer is people like GAME SHOWS they like to watch them. otherwise GSN would not have put the classics back in daytime. The numbers for GSN have gone up in daytime since they have put the classic GAME SHOWS back.
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Congratulations for not answering the question. No one has disputed that GSN needs a certain number of classics on the schedule, not even GSN. What I asked you was what proof you have that adding even more different classics -- the "wider variety" you keep saying they need -- would lead to higher ratings.
However, the reason the weekend schedule should have different shows on it is because GSN during the classic blocks on Saturdays programmed Double Dare 1976 and Now You See It. These shows did well in ratings so why not put them on the schedule??
First, I doubt you have any concrete ratings information that points to how well those blocks did (if you do, please provide a link, and not to the GSN board). But even if we assume for the sake of argument that those blocks did do well, that tells us absolutely nothing about how well those shows would do as part of the regular schedule. Viewers may like the shows as a one-time stunt but find that the novelty wears off if the show is on every day.
Try again. And before you do, please remember that "because why would...?" is not an answer to the question when there's more than one reasonable answer to "why would...?"
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I'm probably going to regret wasting my time but....
[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154657\' date=\'Jun 8 2007, 10:48 AM\']
I am sorry, but, the variety is lacking a little in todays GSN schedule. Let me explain
In 2000, we had a total of:
25 different game shows total (weekdays + weekends)
GSN's current schedule, we have a total of:
23 different game shows total (weekdays + weekends)
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If variety = 25, how can you come to such a drastic conclusion based on your own evidence? 2 fewer distinct shows to me is but a small percentage change....
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[quote name=\'game show guy\' post=\'154657\' date=\'Jun 8 2007, 10:48 AM\']
In 2000, we had a total of 25 different game shows total (weekdays + weekends). [In] GSN's current schedule, we have a total of23 different game shows total (weekdays + weekends)
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That's a difference of two shows. Big whoop.
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This is all I have to say... (http://\"http://www.ac-nancy-metz.fr/enseign/anglais/Henry/brick.jpg\")
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I know I'm going to be repeating for the most part what David said here, but it's time for a basic lesson in how a cable channel operates.
A channel is run primarily off of advertiser dollars. The more successful a show, the higher the ad rates for advertisers buying time is which turns into more money. If a channel has a show that is pulling in dismal ratings and not turning any profit whatsoever, that puppy is going to get replaced and fast.
Programming decisions are usually not made on what people like, they're going after demographics. It's the way TV works. If GSN thinks it's going to pull in males 18-34 with a Chain Reaction revival because it ranks better than reruns of the Joker's Wild, it's a no-brainer decision. I side with GSN in this case.
(Drifting off topic a bit) Then again, there is a channel out there called American Life TV, which reportedly does not care about ratings and demographics in what shows they air, but that's purely an example of someone trying to do something out of the box, but how long would that last?
(Back on topic) "Variety" as you put it, is an ambiguous term. It seems that no matter what GSN does to its schedule, not everyone is satisfied. For that matter, when has anyone ever been satisfied with a network or cable channel's schedule?
I think you need to learn more before you post these diatribes, if you know more about how a channel works, you could see it from their side.
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'154777\' date=\'Jun 9 2007, 03:45 AM\']
(Drifting off topic a bit) Then again, there is a channel out there called American Life TV, which reportedly does not care about ratings and demographics in what shows they air, but that's purely an example of someone trying to do something out of the box, but how long would that last?[/quote]
Started as Nostalgia Channel in 1985, became Goodlife in the early part of the decade when the Unification Church bought 'em, changed to AmericanLife a while back. About 22 years.
Granted, they're only in about 10 million households - of which I do believe they're on digital in 9.9 million (I've only heard of a few sporadic cable lineups carrying them on analog, of which my cable lineup is one of said few). They don't have carriage deals for either major DBS provider. Their advertisements are usually the stuff that even a lower-mid-level niche channel like GSN won't air at 4 AM, for the most part.
But somehow, they've kept going along for 22 years. And now they're airing St. Elsewhere, so I'm indeed a happy man :-)
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'154778\' date=\'Jun 9 2007, 04:52 AM\']
Started as Nostalgia Channel in 1985, became Goodlife in the early part of the decade when the Unification Church bought 'em, changed to AmericanLife a while back. About 22 years.
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And they don't crunch the credits!
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'154778\' date=\'Jun 9 2007, 04:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'154777\' date=\'Jun 9 2007, 03:45 AM\']
(Drifting off topic a bit) Then again, there is a channel out there called American Life TV, which reportedly does not care about ratings and demographics in what shows they air, but that's purely an example of someone trying to do something out of the box, but how long would that last?[/quote]
Started as Nostalgia Channel in 1985, became Goodlife in the early part of the decade when the Unification Church bought 'em, changed to AmericanLife a while back. About 22 years.
Granted, they're only in about 10 million households - of which I do believe they're on digital in 9.9 million (I've only heard of a few sporadic cable lineups carrying them on analog, of which my cable lineup is one of said few). They don't have carriage deals for either major DBS provider. Their advertisements are usually the stuff that even a lower-mid-level niche channel like GSN won't air at 4 AM, for the most part.
But somehow, they've kept going along for 22 years. And now they're airing St. Elsewhere, so I'm indeed a happy man :-)
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American Life TV is about the only Network I miss having with Dish Network over Time Warner Cable..Though with Dish I have RFD TV which has some neat shows (at least to me).TWC doesnt carry RFD..
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'154868\' date=\'Jun 10 2007, 09:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'154778\' date=\'Jun 9 2007, 04:52 AM\']
Started as Nostalgia Channel in 1985, became Goodlife in the early part of the decade when the Unification Church bought 'em, changed to AmericanLife a while back. About 22 years.
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And they don't crunch the credits!
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They've got my vote!
/if only more cable networks would not try to equate ratings with dollars
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'154881\' date=\'Jun 10 2007, 10:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'154868\' date=\'Jun 10 2007, 09:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'154778\' date=\'Jun 9 2007, 04:52 AM\']
Started as Nostalgia Channel in 1985, became Goodlife in the early part of the decade when the Unification Church bought 'em, changed to AmericanLife a while back. About 22 years.
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And they don't crunch the credits!
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They've got my vote!
/if only more cable networks would not try to equate ratings with dollars
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Yeah, if only more networks were owned by cults.