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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Jimmy_1 on May 26, 2007, 12:55:07 AM
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CNN Headline News reported Rosie O'Donnell has been negotiating with CBS for a daytime talk show to air opposite The View. The allaged sticking point is Rosie wants $20 million (don't know for how long) and CBS is offering $10 million. That would bump TPIR from its current slot if these plans come into being. Has anyone else heard about CBS's negotiations with Rosie, and would CBS be willing to move or drop TPIR if they reached an agreement with Rosie to host a show.
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Anything is possible in today's TV world. What might happen is CBS could move Price to its old time slot of 3pm with stations having the option of running it at 10am, bumping GL or they could take back an hour of daytime and not cancel anything. I think the fate of Price rests with whomever they find to host the show.
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Tell me if this is profitable, and if so, feasible?
With a new host, the show might be a lot to handle...so maybe consider going back to the original half-hour format, and use that. Then again, the Showcase Showdown is as big as a cultural icon as the show itself, and trying to do a two best scores would be a little too much.
But I said all that to suggest letting the host learn the ropes for a bit, and give CBS a chance to do another half-hour game, perhaps one of the more successful shows from last summer's Marathon.
/Is that even saying much?
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I believe I heard that comment about Rosie broadcasting opposite *The View* as well (this was on Nancy Grace's show, correct?).
There are so many rumors out there surrounding O'Donnell's future (this morning on *Weekend Today,* a pop culture "expert" claimed O'Donnell could be in the running for a late-night chat show on one of the networks) that I would just play wait and see. She's probably going to take about a year off to be with family and work on her other interests -- I would expect to hear something by the end of the year on her TV future, but not now.
As far as moving or canceling TPiR -- IIRC, I remember reading that CBS must decide by the end of this month whether to renew *Guiding Light*. If CBS opts to end *GL,* then the possibility of CBS asking affiliates to air TPiR at 10 and a new show at 11 is a possibility.
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Why does this scream "David Letterman in 1980" to me?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'153450\' date=\'May 26 2007, 12:24 PM\']
Anything is possible in today's TV world. What might happen is CBS could move Price to its old time slot of 3pm with stations having the option of running it at 10am, bumping GL or they could take back an hour of daytime and not cancel anything. I think the fate of Price rests with whomever they find to host the show.
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Not if it gets moved. If the time slot changes, then CBS pretty much gives the death knell to Price, and all the hype that's been built up gets wasted as viewers will probably turn away from two shows (Price and whatever goes in at 11)
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[quote name=\'colonial\' post=\'153459\' date=\'May 26 2007, 01:39 PM\']
I believe I heard that comment about Rosie broadcasting opposite *The View* as well (this was on Nancy Grace's show, correct?).[/quote]
Yes - I heard this on Nancy Grace.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'153461\' date=\'May 26 2007, 02:08 PM\']
Why does this scream "David Letterman in 1980" to me?[/quote]
I can't imagine, the two situations are radically different in just about every respect.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy_1\' post=\'153484\' date=\'May 26 2007, 06:32 PM\']
Yes - I heard this on Nancy Grace. [/quote]
Just curious if there's another source other than the Wicked Witch of the South breying about this. (or was it on their little news ticker?) I've come to the point where I generally assume the opposite of whatever that shreiking harpy may claim or state.
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Here's what one article has to say:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269355,00.html (http://\"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269355,00.html\")
Greg
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Hate to say this, but If Fremantle can't find a host soon for TPIR it may be over. Barker reruns can't go on much past October.
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Actually, I think Barker reruns could go on for years.
I haven't watched TPIR since Barker's ego got bigger than the show around the early '90s.
The only thing that could get me to watch again would be a new host, but it's possible that CBS intends to just run Barker reruns indefinitely. They might get higher ratings than a new host would, and would be cheaper (I assume).
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'153498\' date=\'May 26 2007, 10:14 PM\'] Hate to say this, but If Fremantle can't find a host soon for TPIR it may be over. Barker reruns can't go on much past October. [/quote]
Actually, they've got 35 years worth of episodes already produced and in the can. Even if you assume 50% of the first ten years is unairable due to furs, you've still got an extensive amount of episodes that can be ran. If they wanted to, they could run classic episodes for a good few decades, and compared to Price with a new host, there are probably a lot of people who wouldn't mind a bit.
Now whether that's actually anything approaching a reasonable idea for a broadcast TV network in 2007, is another story. But they've got enough in the can they could rerun the show ad infinitum and be fine.
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The Price is Right, more even than most trivia-based shows, depends on being current. Sure, you *can* play along to a 20-year-old episode, but guessing how much something cost a possibly-unknown number of years ago isn't the same game, and most of the fun comes from the novelty (if you'll pardon the word) of it, seeing how much the show has and hasn't changed, pricing games/models/announcers that are gone, etc.
(and... If Rosie really loves TPIR, and IF she really is trying specifically to get herself a new show *on CBS at 11AM*, what does that mean?)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'153498\' date=\'May 26 2007, 11:14 PM\']
Hate to say this, but If Fremantle can't find a host soon for TPIR it may be over. Barker reruns can't go on much past October.
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They can't find a host? Well, they've only had since October, right? So, then what happens if they don't decide on someone by the end of June when they're supposed to start taping for the next season? Could be the longest stretch of reruns ever. Another semester of reruns? Don't get any ideas, Zach. Ah, the good old days with that and AFIKJAMES. Speaking of which, after having searched for stuff on him on google, I found this (http://\"http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=606949062927&crvAll=1&crvStart=1&displayonly=CRV&z=y\"). It appears his name is Afi K. James. Either way, it still sounds like a dumb name. I had always been under the impression that the whole title was his first name.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'153494\' date=\'May 26 2007, 09:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy_1\' post=\'153484\' date=\'May 26 2007, 06:32 PM\']
Yes - I heard this on Nancy Grace. [/quote]
Just curious if there's another source other than the Wicked Witch of the South breying about this. (or was it on their little news ticker?) I've come to the point where I generally assume the opposite of whatever that shreiking harpy may claim or state.
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It wasn't Grace herselg discussing it. She was hosting a roundtable on Rosie's quitting The View. A male Hollywood gossip columnist countered the claim Rosie is washed up with the announcement that Rosie has been talking with CBS for about two weeks now for her own daytime talker CBS wants to air opposite The View.
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Oh, a gossip columnist! Well, that sure lends an air of credence to the whole thing!
And Adam, Bob was saying at tapings this past week that reruns will definitely be airing at least into October.
EDIT: And now that I think about it, what the hell is a Hollywood gossip columnist doing on Nancy Grace? I might well have my facts wrong, as I don't have Headline News, but I was under the impression that that was some kind of legal program.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'153530\' date=\'May 27 2007, 05:52 PM\']
EDIT: And now that I think about it, what the hell is a Hollywood gossip columnist doing on Nancy Grace? I might well have my facts wrong, as I don't have Headline News, but I was under the impression that that was some kind of legal program.
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A better question to ask is, what the hell is Nancy Grace still doing on the air? Oh, right, the windbags that actually think she's credible are watching her. Sigh.
ObGameShow: I don't see CBS giving Rosie a shot in a prestigious time slot like this. No way.
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'153540\' date=\'May 27 2007, 06:36 PM\']
ObGameShow: I don't see CBS giving Rosie a shot in a prestigious time slot like this. No way.
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That time slot is gonna get a *lot* less prestigious in the next few months.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'153543\' date=\'May 27 2007, 09:41 PM\']
That time slot is gonna get a *lot* less prestigious in the next few months.
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Agreed. It will lose its luster so to speak, but any show is better than no show at all.
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Or, rumors about Rosie being in discussions with CBS and NBC could be one big cunard to draw attention from the fact that she no longer has a show.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'153546\' date=\'May 27 2007, 06:57 PM\']
Or, rumors about Rosie being in discussions with CBS and NBC could be one big cunard to draw attention from the fact that she no longer has a show.
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Cunard?
http://www.oldgloryprints.com/Cunard_Line.jpg (http://\"http://www.oldgloryprints.com/Cunard_Line.jpg\")
:)
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[quote name=\'fishbulb\' post=\'153500\' date=\'May 26 2007, 09:10 PM\']
Actually, I think Barker reruns could go on for years.
I haven't watched TPIR since Barker's ego got bigger than the show around the early '90s.
The only thing that could get me to watch again would be a new host, but it's possible that CBS intends to just run Barker reruns indefinitely. They might get higher ratings than a new host would, and would be cheaper (I assume).
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Wow. A BB hater. Well, to each his own, but would you care to explain
the differences between the BB of the 1970's and '80s, and the one post
early '90s? What is it about him that makes it uncomfortable to watch? In any case, I dare say the reason for TPIR's huge
popularity is due in part to Bob's "ego".
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[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'153612\' date=\'May 28 2007, 01:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'fishbulb\' post=\'153500\' date=\'May 26 2007, 09:10 PM\']
Actually, I think Barker reruns could go on for years.
I haven't watched TPIR since Barker's ego got bigger than the show around the early '90s.
The only thing that could get me to watch again would be a new host, but it's possible that CBS intends to just run Barker reruns indefinitely. They might get higher ratings than a new host would, and would be cheaper (I assume).
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Wow. A BB hater. Well, to each his own, but would you care to explain
the differences between the BB of the 1970's and '80s, and the one post
early '90s?
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Yes, because anyone who offers an opinion you disagree with is a hater. Riiiiiight.
FWIW, I find that Barker has become extremely cranky and irritable with contestants. Some cases, rightfully so, but as a game show host on a show like Price, it's not asking a lot to be patient with the contestants. And from a few Price insiders, he really has gotten a swollen ego since then, esp. with his EP title.
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[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'153612\' date=\'May 28 2007, 10:52 AM\']
Wow. A BB hater.
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Yes, you'll find quite a few of them here, where people are allowed to think that Barker isn't actually the end-all-be-all of game show hosts. Better get used to the idea.
Well, to each his own, but would you care to explain
the differences between the BB of the 1970's and '80s, and the one post
early '90s? What is it about him that makes it uncomfortable to watch?
What Brandon said, and: He can't do the friggin' job anymore. For the last five years or so, he frequently screws up, throws his hands in the air, and yells "So you win anyhow!" And then all of the Barker fanb0is bounce up and down in their chairs, completely snowed that something happened that wouldn't have, were he competent.
In any case, I dare say the reason for TPIR's huge popularity is due in part to Bob's "ego".
I dare say the average Price viewer has no idea about Barker's ego.
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I frequently tell people I talk to that I have never thought for one iota that Barker is the best host of all time. I also say that I thought he should have retired years ago (around 2000 seemed about right). Then, I get asked, who is a better host? I always say I think Bill Cullen was the best, to which I usually get, "Who?"
How quickly the public forgets...
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'153617\' date=\'May 28 2007, 11:36 AM\']
[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'153612\' date=\'May 28 2007, 01:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'fishbulb\' post=\'153500\' date=\'May 26 2007, 09:10 PM\']
Actually, I think Barker reruns could go on for years.
I haven't watched TPIR since Barker's ego got bigger than the show around the early '90s.
The only thing that could get me to watch again would be a new host, but it's possible that CBS intends to just run Barker reruns indefinitely. They might get higher ratings than a new host would, and would be cheaper (I assume).
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Wow. A BB hater. Well, to each his own, but would you care to explain
the differences between the BB of the 1970's and '80s, and the one post
early '90s?
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Yes, because anyone who offers an opinion you disagree with is a hater. Riiiiiight.
FWIW, I find that Barker has become extremely cranky and irritable with contestants. Some cases, rightfully so, but as a game show host on a show like Price, it's not asking a lot to be patient with the contestants. And from a few Price insiders, he really has gotten a swollen ego since then, esp. with his EP title.
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What would you call fishbulb's opinion of Barker, then? Neutral?!
He has to keep the show going at a reasonable pace. Some contestants hem and haw their way through things. For example, contestants bidding on the IUFB who take their sweet time deciding on an amount.
Examples of Bob's "swollen ego", please?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'153619\' date=\'May 28 2007, 11:45 AM\']
[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'153612\' date=\'May 28 2007, 10:52 AM\']
Wow. A BB hater.
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Yes, you'll find quite a few of them here, where people are allowed to think that Barker isn't actually the end-all-be-all of game show hosts. Better get used to the idea.
Well, to each his own, but would you care to explain
the differences between the BB of the 1970's and '80s, and the one post
early '90s? What is it about him that makes it uncomfortable to watch?
What Brandon said, and: He can't do the friggin' job anymore. For the last five years or so, he frequently screws up, throws his hands in the air, and yells "So you win anyhow!" And then all of the Barker fanb0is bounce up and down in their chairs, completely snowed that something happened that wouldn't have, were he competent.
In any case, I dare say the reason for TPIR's huge popularity is due in part to Bob's "ego".
I dare say the average Price viewer has no idea about Barker's ego.
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Wow. Project much?
Just how frequently has Bob screwed up, resulting in a "So you win anyhow!"? It's not like it's every week, or month, for that matter. Excrement happens. People mess up every once in a while, no matter the age of the person. Deal with it.
And by all means, please enlighten the masses. Tell us about Bob's dastardly ego, which simply must not go unchallenged.
It's all a moot point anyway. Bob is about to ride off into the sunset after 50 glorious and successful years in the biz.
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The reason Janice and Kathleen were unjustly fired, which was for possibly testifying against Barker in the Holly Hallstrom wrongful termination case.
Someone will come along and correct that...because I'm not 100% positive about that.
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[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'154103\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 05:41 PM\']
What would you call fishbulb's opinion of Barker, then? Neutral?!
He has to keep the show going at a reasonable pace. Some contestants hem and haw their way through things. For example, contestants bidding on the IUFB who take their sweet time deciding on an amount.
Examples of Bob's "swollen ego", please?
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[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'154104\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 06:07 PM\']
Wow. Project much?
Just how frequently has Bob screwed up, resulting in a "So you win anyhow!"? It's not like it's every week, or month, for that matter. Excrement happens. People mess up every once in a while, no matter the age of the person. Deal with it.
And by all means, please enlighten the masses. Tell us about Bob's dastardly ego, which simply must not go unchallenged.
It's all a moot point anyway. Bob is about to ride off into the sunset after 50 glorious and successful years in the biz.
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Wow.
So what's it like being Bob's agent anyway?
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I just wish his wife had not passed away. That seemed to be a turning point.
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(Massive overquoting deleted. -DZ)
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'154107\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 03:17 PM\']
So what's it like being Bob's agent anyway?
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Eh, could be better. Not enough perks. And could the cheapskate stand to pay me a decent wage?
Damn that Barker! Another example of his swollen ego. Damn that bastard to hell!!!!!!!
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[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'154109\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 06:34 PM\']
Eh, could be better. Not enough perks. And could the cheapskate stand to pay me a decent wage?
Damn that Barker! Another example of his swollen ego. Damn that bastard to hell!!!!!!!
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Wow.
(sends royalty check to Lemon)
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[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'154109\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 06:34 PM\']
(Massive overquoting deleted. -DZ)
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'154107\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 03:17 PM\']
So what's it like being Bob's agent anyway?
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Eh, could be better. Not enough perks. And could the cheapskate stand to pay me a decent wage?
Damn that Barker! Another example of his swollen ego. Damn that bastard to hell!!!!!!!
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Dude, you're making yourself look like an idiot. Even those of us who like Barker as a host know that the man isn't exactly a saint.
Why do you think they stopped showing Rod Roddy calling contestants? It wasn't because of his cancer.
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I love it when combative-posters-with-a-total-of-6-posts-to-their-name stir the pot.
So, who are you, and why do you think we owe you the time of day? Cause you're not making friends early in your tenure here, that's why.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'154114\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 03:59 PM\']
Dude, you're making yourself look like an idiot.
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Present tense?
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This action does not surprise me. (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=11449&view=findpost&p=132085\")
/keyword stars with "fan" and ends in "boy"
//correct present tense would be, "Dude, you're an idiot".
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Just to clarify, I don't hate Bob Barker. He was never my favorite host, though, even back in ToC days.
I'll give him this - he injected an energy into the show that the new format would need. The Dennis James version paled in comparison, I think.
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Also: is Bob giving away a car a week due to his errors? No. But based on my sampling of the past few years, I think that he is making errors that come close to the realm of screwing up the gameplay just about every week. Losing his train of thought on rules explanations, forgetting more and more to let contestants know just what risks they're taking, and so on.
Putting aside all personal issues (and just because I choose to for the moment, not because personal issues are not fair game in this discussion), I think he has been a damn good host in the past. And if you look at the times he's not flubbing, I think he's still pretty damn good. But those flubs are simply bad, and shouldn't be ignored in the context of running a professional TV show broadcast to millions.
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[quote name=\'fishbulb\' post=\'154124\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 08:13 PM\']
Just to clarify, I don't hate Bob Barker.
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And why would you? You don't know him personally and he's done nothing to you.
I'm thinking that Mr. Run is...
1. Someone who, not unlike certain members of the GSN board, can't conceive of the possibility that others might disagree with him -- in this case, that Bob Barker is G-d's gift to television;
2. Someone who is a personal friend of Bob, works for Bob, and/or has some personal stake in promoting the idea that Bob Barker is G-d's gift to television;
3. Someone who knows that many of us dislike various aspects of Bob's personality or performance and, Casey Abell-style, is publicly taking the position that Bob is G-d's gift to television precisely because it's a contrarian position.
In any event, whatever his true intentions are, I don't think he's succeeding.
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(Massive overquoting deleted. -DZ)
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'154114\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 03:59 PM\']
Why do you think they stopped showing Rod Roddy calling contestants? It wasn't because of his cancer.
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I don't know. Why did they stop showing RR calling contestants? And when did it take effect?
Nobody is exactly a saint. But I don't believe Barker is a total high-n-mighty SOB, either.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'154118\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 04:10 PM\']
I love it when combative-posters-with-a-total-of-6-posts-to-their-name stir the pot.
So, who are you, and why do you think we owe you the time of day? Cause you're not making friends early in your tenure here, that's why.
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I'm not looking to make friends. I'm not looking to make enemies, either. This isn't a popularity contest. Whether I'm liked or hated is of no concern to me. I'm just a game show fan participating in a discussion forum. No more, no less.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'154123\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 05:12 PM\']
This action does not surprise me. (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=11449&view=findpost&p=132085\")
/keyword stars with "fan" and ends in "boy"
//correct present tense would be, "Dude, you're an idiot".
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Ooooooooo my very own stalker! I was wondering if someone would dig up that little gem!
Oh the horror! Boo-Hoo! Woe is me. You called me an idiot! Damn, now i'm going to cry like a little girl.
<snort> : rolls eyes
As if it isn't clear by now, I am a thick skinned person who can express sarcasm when necessary.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'154127\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 06:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'fishbulb\' post=\'154124\' date=\'Jun 2 2007, 08:13 PM\']
Just to clarify, I don't hate Bob Barker.
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And why would you? You don't know him personally and he's done nothing to you.
I'm thinking that Mr. Run is...
1. Someone who, not unlike certain members of the GSN board, can't conceive of the possibility that others might disagree with him -- in this case, that Bob Barker is G-d's gift to television;
2. Someone who is a personal friend of Bob, works for Bob, and/or has some personal stake in promoting the idea that Bob Barker is G-d's gift to television;
3. Someone who knows that many of us dislike various aspects of Bob's personality or performance and, Casey Abell-style, is publicly taking the position that Bob is G-d's gift to television precisely because it's a contrarian position.
In any event, whatever his true intentions are, I don't think he's succeeding.
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My intentions are to express my opinions and to participate in a discussion. To that end, I have succeeded. If the powers that be think I'm too hot to handle, please let me know, so that I can act accordingly. I sincerely enjoy "The Game Show Forum", and will continue to until it's demise.
BTW, the answers to 1, 2, and 3 are all "no".
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[quote name=\'Waiter_On_The_Run\' post=\'154183\' date=\'Jun 3 2007, 08:11 PM\']
My intentions are to express my opinions and to participate in a discussion. To that end, I have succeeded. [/quote]
Well, you're halfway there -- you have indeed expressed your opinion that Bob Barker is G-d's gift to television, if not humanity. But making fun of others for not agreeing with you does not constitute "participating in a discussion," no matter how much you might wish otherwise.
Some other lessons in basic English...
1. You're not "too hot to handle," you're merely completely incapable of (1) conceiving of the possibility that anyone might disagree with you and (2) expressing your opinion without denigrating anyone and everyone in your path.
2. Calling you on your own words is not "stalking."
3. Insulting others for not sharing your opinion that Bob Barker is G-d's gift to television is not "sarcasm."
Further posts from you will be approved when you decide that you actually want to participate.
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(too lazy to quote)
I did a brief check of posting history....and found said post. I've got better things to do than stalk persons.