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Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: Skynet74 on September 12, 2003, 10:52:25 PM
I realize there are problems securing the rights to many programs. However if you had your wish, name some of the shows that have NEVER been on Game Show Network that you think should be.

I'll go first.

Cross-Wits
Dream House
Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour
Hitman
Whew!
the All New Dating Game
Name That Tune
Face The Music
Scrabble
Sale Of The Century
The All New Let's make A Deal
Concentration
Classic Concentration
You Bet Your Life




John
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Post by: DjohnsonCB on September 12, 2003, 11:26:08 PM
Spin-Off

The one existing 1969 color kinescope of The Match Game (I'll take the long trip to L.A. to watch it at the Museum Of Broadcasting as soon as I win a Powerball jackpot...)
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Post by: Neumms on September 13, 2003, 12:10:27 AM
You Don't Say!

The Who, What & Where Game

Bruce Forsyth's Hot Streak (which is sorely underrated)
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Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 13, 2003, 12:17:27 AM
[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Sep 12 2003, 09:52 PM\'] I realize there are problems securing the rights to many programs. However if you had your wish, name some of the shows that have NEVER been on Game Show Network that you think should be.

I'll go first.

Cross-Wits
Dream House
Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour
Hitman
Whew!
the All New Dating Game
Name That Tune
Face The Music
Scrabble
Sale Of The Century
The All New Let's make A Deal
Concentration
Classic Concentration
You Bet Your Life




John [/quote]
 \"The All New Let's Make a Deal\" has aired on GSN, and I believe at least 1 episode of Elaine Joyce's Dating game has been aired as well.
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Post by: Winkfan on September 13, 2003, 12:48:35 AM
I STILL say Second Honeymoon and Talkabout!

I know you're all thinking 'Is she starting THAT deal again?' To all who disagree with moi, I say 'GO WATCH WHAT'S LEFT OF THOSE 'DATING SHOWS!'

Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Sally Ann Howes of the Big Board!'
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Post by: Brandon Brooks on September 13, 2003, 12:55:39 PM
[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Sep 12 2003, 11:17 PM\'] and I believe at least 1 episode of Elaine Joyce's Dating game has been aired as well. [/quote]
Sure did.  Nice lady, but was stiff as zwieback.

Brandon Brooks
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Post by: clemon79 on September 13, 2003, 01:59:25 PM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Sep 13 2003, 09:55 AM\'] Sure did.  Nice lady, but was stiff aa zwieback. [/quote]
\"Straight ahead!\" (Undoubtedly, a reminder as to which camera to look at.)

(For my money, the only outro poorer would be Jim Lange and \"here's hoping everything you're going for hits...the BULLSEYE!\"

Come to think of it, Jimbo had a lot of crappy outros. \"You don't have to be a newlywed to feel like one\" during that test week of NG on ABC was no winner, either.)
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Post by: ChuckNet on September 13, 2003, 05:15:11 PM
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Come to think of it, Jimbo had a lot of crappy outros. \"You don't have to be a newlywed to feel like one\" during that test week of NG on ABC was no winner, either.)

That's right up there w/Steve Edwards' close to the Get Rich Quick pilot \"I hope you walk down the street and something happens to you, and you Get Rich Quick!\", w/2nd place going to his opening line \"The name of this show is Get Rich Quick, because the quicker you are, the richer you get.\" :-)

Or maybe Joe Garagiola's \"They struck it rich, and I hope you strike it rich!\"

(Personally, I liked \"Hope everything you're going for hits the Bullseye\"...much better than the other ones, IMO)

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
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Post by: clemon79 on September 13, 2003, 06:27:51 PM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Sep 13 2003, 02:15 PM\'] Or maybe Joe Garagiola's "They struck it rich, and I hope you strike it rich!"
 [/quote]
 I was willing to let that one pass, because I knew that kickass theme was following it up. :)

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(Personally, I liked \"Hope everything you're going for hits the Bullseye\"...much better than the other ones, IMO)

The Undisputed King Of Outros, for my money, is still Kevin O'Connell. \"K.O. for G.O.. We'll see you tomorrow.\" Quick, pithy, to the point. There is no finer. :)
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Post by: Don Howard on September 13, 2003, 11:13:04 PM
If it were possible, I'd vote for Celebrity Sweepstakes. But I'd be perfectly content if they'd resume running those CBS Joker's Wild shows from the point of interruption.
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Post by: Ian Wallis on September 15, 2003, 09:11:19 AM
For me, \"Celebrity Sweepstakes\" would probably me my top choice - if the episodes still existed, of course.  \"Whew\" would be second.

As for \"Dating Game\", I'd like to see them run some of the Jeff MacGregor episodes.  It seems strange that in all these years they've never aired even one.  I remember the very first one he did as being very funny...too bad nobody has it.
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Post by: zachhoran on September 15, 2003, 09:51:17 AM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Sep 15 2003, 08:11 AM\']
As for "Dating Game", I'd like to see them run some of the Jeff MacGregor episodes.  It seems strange that in all these years they've never aired even one.  I remember the very first one he did as being very funny...too bad nobody has it. [/quote]
 One possibility is that GSN never converted the McGregor episodes for airing. Lange's DG is of course the best known version, though they did run Woolery's DG for a couple of years IIRC.
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Post by: zachhoran on September 15, 2003, 09:53:33 AM
[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Sep 12 2003, 09:52 PM\']

Cross-Wits
Dream House
Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour
Hitman
Whew!
the All New Dating Game
Name That Tune
Face The Music
Scrabble
Sale Of The Century
The All New Let's make A Deal
Concentration
Classic Concentration
You Bet Your Life




John [/quote]
 They've aired a couple of episodes of Elaine Joyce All New DG and about 40 episodes of ALl New LMAD(1984-85 season, they don't have the 1985-86 season as yet). As for the others, they would be nice to see again, but John C. should remember that SHOULD and DID are two different words/
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Post by: HSquares2003 on October 12, 2003, 11:21:02 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 15 2003, 09:53 AM\'] [quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Sep 12 2003, 09:52 PM\']

Cross-Wits
Dream House
Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour
Hitman
Whew!
the All New Dating Game
Name That Tune
Face The Music
Scrabble
Sale Of The Century
The All New Let's make A Deal
Concentration
Classic Concentration
You Bet Your Life




John [/quote]
They've aired a couple of episodes of Elaine Joyce All New DG and about 40 episodes of ALl New LMAD(1984-85 season, they don't have the 1985-86 season as yet). As for the others, they would be nice to see again, but John C. should remember that SHOULD and DID are two different words/ [/quote]
 If they are gonna screw up a new acquistion like they did with H2(marshall version), they should not acquire anything new for awhile. My .03 cents worth.
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Post by: Pyramid80 on October 12, 2003, 11:23:17 PM
Shouldn't the Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour be in the Goodson-Todman package that GSN has now?  Or is it seperate like TPIR?
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on October 12, 2003, 11:27:14 PM
[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Oct 12 2003, 11:21 PM\'] If they are gonna screw up a new acquistion like they did with H2(marshall version), they should not acquire anything new for awhile. My .03 cents worth. [/quote]
 The only sense I can make out of this statement is that given the choice between 150 episodes of a rare treasure that no one had seen in decades and ZERO episodes of a rare treasure than no one had seen in decades, you would prefer zero.  Interesting.
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Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 12, 2003, 11:51:42 PM
[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Oct 12 2003, 10:23 PM\'] Shouldn't the Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour be in the Goodson-Todman package that GSN has now?  Or is it seperate like TPIR? [/quote]
 There is a problem with the cross-ownership with Orion and Goodson-Todman.  Some have speculated that Rayburn requested them not to be rerun, but I have heard recent accounts disputing that.
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Post by: inturnaround on October 13, 2003, 07:51:30 AM
[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Oct 12 2003, 10:51 PM\'] [quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Oct 12 2003, 10:23 PM\'] Shouldn't the Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour be in the Goodson-Todman package that GSN has now?  Or is it seperate like TPIR? [/quote]
There is a problem with the cross-ownership with Orion and Goodson-Todman.  Some have speculated that Rayburn requested them not to be rerun, but I have heard recent accounts disputing that. [/quote]
Yeah, I would think that if there were to be money to be made in a property long since written off, they would do it in a heartbeat. A request by Gene Rayburn 20 years ago would probably be ignored.

No, I think it's a rights issue, plain and simple (or as plain and simple as rights issues can be). A lot of things with Orion (God bless its bankrupt little soul) had the same problem.
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Post by: NickintheATL on October 13, 2003, 10:41:02 AM
Need I remind everyone again of what actually happed to Orion, they went bankrupt and was bought out by MGM, which used to be owned by Ted Turner, then broke off before Turner's holdings got absorbed by Time/Warner. MGM has all of Orion's holdings at this point.

They did go bankrupt, but MGM would be the people who GSN would talk to about the HS side of the rights nowadays.

and Zach, don't just repeat my post.... :-P
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Post by: tommycharles on October 13, 2003, 11:50:14 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 12 2003, 10:27 PM\'] [quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Oct 12 2003, 11:21 PM\'] If they are gonna screw up a new acquistion like they did with H2(marshall version), they should not acquire anything new for awhile. My .03 cents worth. [/quote]
The only sense I can make out of this statement is that given the choice between 150 episodes of a rare treasure that no one had seen in decades and ZERO episodes of a rare treasure than no one had seen in decades, you would prefer zero.  Interesting. [/quote]
 I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. Or I could be wrong and that made no sense whatsoever.

It would be something new here if someone were to think of the network, anyway. As much as some of us bash the GSN execs, I defy any of you to make a higher ratings/more profitable network relying on the relentless string of obscure (to anyone that's not a member here) titles that you seem to want.
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Post by: catnap1972 on October 13, 2003, 12:11:44 PM
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:50 AM\'] I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. [/quote]
 That whole statement from them about the classic Squares shows "not bringing in ratings from the desirable demographic" bothers me.  You mean the brass didn't have a clue that anyone under 30 or so probaly wouldn't even remember those shows (or many of the celebrities) beforehand?
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on October 13, 2003, 12:30:55 PM
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 12:11 PM\'] That whole statement from them about the classic Squares shows "not bringing in ratings from the desirable demographic" bothers me.  You mean the brass didn't have a clue that anyone under 30 or so probaly wouldn't even remember those shows (or many of the celebrities) beforehand? [/quote]
 So now they're being faulted for even trying?  Look, it's real simple.  They put Hollywood Squares on the air.  It didn't give them the ratings they needed and/or wanted.  They took Hollywood Squares off the air.  

[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:50 AM\'] I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. [/quote]

I have yet to see in what way they "let" HS fly down the toilet. They gave it a chance, as I recall they promoted it pretty heavily, and it didn't do for them what they wanted it to do.  So now it's not on the schedule anymore.  

That's what happens.  Shows come and go on every network all the time.  You guys still see GSN as a museum with regular, rotating exhibits ("When is Now You See It coming back?") rather than a television business trying to evolve, grow and reach more viewers.
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Post by: tommycharles on October 13, 2003, 02:19:56 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:30 AM\']
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:50 AM\'] I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. [/quote]

I have yet to see in what way they "let" HS fly down the toilet. They gave it a chance, as I recall they promoted it pretty heavily, and it didn't do for them what they wanted it to do.  So now it's not on the schedule anymore.  

That's what happens.  Shows come and go on every network all the time.  You guys still see GSN as a museum with regular, rotating exhibits ("When is Now You See It coming back?") rather than a television business trying to evolve, grow and reach more viewers. [/quote]
 I understand that they didn't do anything wrong - ok "let" was the wrong word. They experimented, and it didn't go well. Many people thought that they didn't do enough and people got sick of reruns. I don't agree with that - assuming that the members of this forum don't count as the "general" GSN viewer (and in the grand scheme of things, we don't), no one will tune in to Marshall HS and notice the secret square prize and say "oh, I've seen this one. I'll go watch Blind Date now"

People just didn't see the show as "appointment television" - not that people plan things around television, but something people watch when it's on, generally. There was absolutely nothing GSN could do, short of jump in the time machine and tell HQ to appeal more to 18-34's...

Their only fault that I can figure out without the data in front of me is not dumping it earlier. They were obviously using it as a filler after a while (which might have been for B&WO reasons, or just pure filler), and they shouldn't have left it on if there was something else to go in its place. They dump things when they get low ratings all the time (Trap, Trivia and Plus, Password). This was just a wierd occurance.

But hey, we got a show that hasn't been seen in decades for 18 months. I'm happy.
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Post by: melman1 on October 13, 2003, 04:20:17 PM
But if viewers are making a show "appointment television", wouldn't they have noticed the endless cycle of repeats?

I wonder if they really had 150 shows.  Seems like shows were repeated way too often for that.

FWIW, I doubt that GSN has any meaningful way to measure ratings.  (Meaningful to anyone not "in the biz", that is.)
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Post by: uncamark on October 13, 2003, 04:22:37 PM
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:11 AM\'][quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:50 AM\'] I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. [/quote]
That whole statement from them about the classic Squares shows "not bringing in ratings from the desirable demographic" bothers me.  You mean the brass didn't have a clue that anyone under 30 or so probaly wouldn't even remember those shows (or many of the celebrities) beforehand?[/quote]
My guess is that they were hoping that the kids had heard of Paul Lynde and wanted to see him in action--after all, it seems like that there are enough people who want to see Brett, Charles and Richard in action every day--and "MG"'s success paralleled "Squares"' height of syndication success.  Remember that Lynde was featured in every single promo for the show (my favorite--"The Paul Lynde School of Comedy").

Turns out they were wrong.
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Post by: Rhudson765 on October 13, 2003, 04:31:14 PM
[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Sep 12 2003, 09:52 PM\'] I realize there are problems securing the rights to many programs. However if you had your wish, name some of the shows that have NEVER been on Game Show Network that you think should be.

I'll go first.

Cross-Wits
Dream House
Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour
Hitman
Whew!
the All New Dating Game
Name That Tune
Face The Music
Scrabble
Sale Of The Century
The All New Let's make A Deal
Concentration
Classic Concentration
You Bet Your Life




John [/quote]
 I realize there are problems securing the rights to many programs. However if you had your wish, name some of the shows that have NEVER been on Game Show Network that you think should be.

I'll go first.


Hitman
Whew!

Why should GSN buy the rights to two FAILED SHOWS that no one outside of thisgroup will remember?

the All New Dating Game

Why? GSN has enough Dating Game and Newlywed Game episodes.

Name That Tune
Face The Music

Why? Their treasured demo won't recognize any of the songs.

Scrabble
Sale Of The Century

Now these actually make sense. Both of these shows have long runs and one is hosted by the patron saint of GSN, Chuck Wollery.


You Bet Your Life

It would be a great addition to Black and White overnight.


John
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Post by: sshuffield70 on October 13, 2003, 07:33:11 PM
Tammy,

I think Wayne Cox is underrated, and should be hosting something instead of that blowhard Roberto.  Hey, "Talkabout" should be easy to revive and for more money than the original (what a concept!)
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Post by: Ian Wallis on October 14, 2003, 09:13:45 AM
While I think it's interesting to see lists of shows people would like GSN to get (I've certainly got one myself), based on what's been happening with GSN lately, I wonder if we should give up hope of them ever buying another classic library?  It just seems like that's not the way they want to go.
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Post by: zachhoran on October 14, 2003, 10:42:46 AM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 08:13 AM\'] While I think it's interesting to see lists of shows people would like GSN to get (I've certainly got one myself), based on what's been happening with GSN lately, I wonder if we should give up hope of them ever buying another classic library?  It just seems like that's not the way they want to go. [/quote]
 Cronin HAS mentioned wanting to get TPIR back, but other than that, some of the shows WE want to see that they don't yet have rights to they might not be getting anytime soon.
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Post by: Jay Temple on October 14, 2003, 02:00:09 PM
[quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 03:31 PM\'] Hitman
Whew!
 [/quote]
 How long have they been showing Win, Lose or Draw?  I don't think it ran much longer than Whew!.
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Post by: catnap1972 on October 14, 2003, 02:00:47 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 10:42 AM\'] Cronin HAS mentioned wanting to get TPIR back, but other than that, some of the shows WE want to see that they don't yet have rights to they might not be getting anytime soon. [/quote]
 Is there anything left that GSN could feasbily make a profit on?  Aside from TPIR and maybe the (future) PAX castoffs (SS and STYD), I can't think of much left that doesn't fall under the "too obscure to spend money on" blanket.
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Post by: SRIV94 on October 14, 2003, 02:07:48 PM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 01:00 PM\'] [quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 03:31 PM\'] Hitman
Whew!
 [/quote]
How long have they been showing Win, Lose or Draw?  I don't think it ran much longer than Whew!. [/quote]
 WLoD ran three seasons in syndication (Convy for two years, Weller for one year).  The NBC version with Vicki Lawrence ran about two years (but GSN wasn't showing that version anyway).  WHEW!  ran considerably shorter.

Speaking of Vicki Lawrence, I just got tix to her two-woman/one-woman show.  Anyone here seen it and care to give me an idea as to what to expect?

Doug
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Post by: uncamark on October 14, 2003, 03:51:11 PM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 01:00 PM\'][quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 03:31 PM\'] Hitman
Whew!
 [/quote]
How long have they been showing Win, Lose or Draw?  I don't think it ran much longer than Whew!.[/quote]
I don't have the actual dates for "Whew!", but it seems to me that "WLOD" ran two years longer than "Whew!"  It's also a decade sooner and has more than a few celebs that are still active today.
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Post by: zachhoran on October 14, 2003, 06:46:50 PM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 01:00 PM\'] [quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 03:31 PM\'] Hitman
Whew!
 [/quote]
How long have they been showing Win, Lose or Draw?  I don't think it ran much longer than Whew!. [/quote]
 WLOD ran three years in syndication(Sep 1987-Sep 1990), and two years concurrently with that on NBC daytime(Sep 1987-Sep 1989). GSN has 200 episodes of the syndie run(all of season one and the first few weeks of season two). They could acquire the rest of the syndie run, which would include the 1989-90 season with Robb Weller, or even pull a surprise and bring us Vicki Lawrence's daytime NBC version, but I don't think it will happen anytime soon. GSN has run WLOD for 18 months at this point, and the shows they acquired are midway through their third cycle(7PM airing EST), the new 1PM EST airing started at the beginning of the run yesterday.
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Post by: Gromit on October 16, 2003, 01:17:40 AM
Put me down as someone who stopped watching HS after the repeats kept coming up. If I know the outcome or the jokes, I don't watch.

Did the ratings start out low and stay that way, or did they slowly decline over time?

As for shows they should get, I've always wanted to see the old "scandal" shows. Let me watch 21 knowing that the contestant may have been tipped off. I think it would be very interesting to watch in hindsight.
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Post by: BrandonFG on October 16, 2003, 02:03:25 AM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 02:51 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 01:00 PM\'][quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 03:31 PM\'] Hitman
Whew!
 [/quote]
How long have they been showing Win, Lose or Draw?  I don't think it ran much longer than Whew!.[/quote]
I don't have the actual dates for "Whew!", but it seems to me that "WLOD" ran two years longer than "Whew!"  It's also a decade sooner and has more than a few celebs that are still active today. [/quote]
 IIRC, Whew barely made it past one year.
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Post by: Ian Wallis on October 16, 2003, 08:58:47 AM
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IIRC, Whew barely made it past one year.

April 1979-May 1980.

Replaced by "Alice" reruns on the CBS schedule.  Ugh!
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Post by: Ian Wallis on October 16, 2003, 09:02:53 AM
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Did the ratings start out low and stay that way, or did they slowly decline over time?


I've often wondered about GSN's ratings.  Surely the people that run the network must know that airing the same limited number of shows over and over (such as 150 "Hollywood Squares", 200 "Press Your Lucks" or 150 "Let's Make a Deals") will drop the ratings after a while.

It's easy to for them to take a show off the schedule once the ratings drop, but part of it is their own fault.  Once they lease a show, they should have a pretty good indication of what the ratings are fairly quickly.  They shouldn't have to wait a couple of years, and run through the same episodes many times before deciding this is worth renewing.  By then it might be too late.
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Post by: Jay Temple on October 16, 2003, 11:35:35 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 16 2003, 01:03 AM\'][quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 01:00 PM\']
How long have they been showing Win, Lose or Draw?  I don't think it ran much longer than Whew!.[/quote]
IIRC, Whew barely made it past one year.[/quote]
Okay, I overestimated how long Whew! ran.  Still, Blockbusters only ran a year and a half, and it's at least been on the schedule since the start of the year.
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Post by: cweaver on October 18, 2003, 05:58:16 PM
Here's what I would like to see...

Cross Wits
The Liar's Club
High Rollers
Concentration

Then again what do I know?  I thought "Hollywood Squares" would hold onto its initial high ratings (remember it *was* successful at first), and that "To Tell the Truth" was a great idea for a game show to revive.  0 for 2 on that one.

I am surprised GSN has never revived any of the classic GT panel shows as a new show for their own network.  "What's My Line?" would be great now, with more video available of some of these people at their jobs.   But once again, what do I know?
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Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 19, 2003, 03:51:24 AM
[quote name=\'cweaver\' date=\'Oct 18 2003, 04:58 PM\'] Here's what I would like to see...

Cross Wits
The Liar's Club
High Rollers
Concentration

Then again what do I know?  I thought "Hollywood Squares" would hold onto its initial high ratings (remember it *was* successful at first), and that "To Tell the Truth" was a great idea for a game show to revive.  0 for 2 on that one.

I am surprised GSN has never revived any of the classic GT panel shows as a new show for their own network.  "What's My Line?" would be great now, with more video available of some of these people at their jobs.   But once again, what do I know? [/quote]
 Assuming you mean the original runs, all of these shows are rumored to be destroyed.  Sparks' Cross-Wits is still intact, and has been rerun on Family Channel, and America One Television.  Liar's Club--perhaps it did get rerun on USA for a while, "The New Liar's Club" should still exist.  Both original HR runs seem to be non existant; Wink's is still somewhere.  Original Concentration is likely gone; Narz and Trebek should still exist.
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Post by: Ian Wallis on October 20, 2003, 09:25:48 AM
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Liar's Club--perhaps it did get rerun on USA for a while, "The New Liar's Club" should still exist.


Strange that USA never ran any Allen Ludden-hosted "Liars Club".  Too bad none of those are in the trade curcuit.

I wonder if the reason GSN has never attempted to remake a GT panel show is because they don't own the rights to them - they only lease them.  They did try to remake Barris' "Three's a Crowd", but they own the Barris formats.
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: Starkman on October 29, 2003, 10:53:23 PM
ok based on what I would LIKE to see note that LIKE is in all caps because i KNOW gsn wont, cant and shouldnt air these shows because they would not garner enough ratings and or do not exist.

Talk About (Very underrated)

(hersey) Davidson Squares (/Hersey)

Edwards Chain Reaction (Ok ill suffer through some blake emmons too just to bolster the count of eps) I didnt like the 3 on 3 cullen version personally.

Fun House

UK Link

Kennedy NTT

Whew!

My Generation

Groucho YBYL

$ale of the century (perry)

Scrabble

and

Concentration (trebek)

As i said id LIKE them to be seen again but I would not expect and in some cases even want GSN to spend the money on them. So there is my attempt of keeping both the fantasy schedulers and the realists happy ;)
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 29, 2003, 11:18:57 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 20 2003, 08:25 AM\']


Strange that USA never ran any Allen Ludden-hosted "Liars Club".  Too bad none of those are in the trade curcuit.

 [/quote]
 USA didn't show any Jack Barry TJW either.  I thought the reason might be because both Allen and Jack were deceased before the USA airings, however they did show Bobby Van's MML.
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: zachhoran on October 30, 2003, 07:55:07 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 29 2003, 11:18 PM\'] [quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 20 2003, 08:25 AM\']



 [/quote]
USA didn't show any Jack Barry TJW either.  I thought the reason might be because both Allen and Jack were deceased before the USA airings, however they did show Bobby Van's MML. [/quote]
 USA continued to show Convy's WLoD after his death(though they first aired Syndie WLOD while he was still alive)
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: Pyramid80 on October 30, 2003, 09:39:40 AM
I wouldn't care if there were any new shows acquired.  There is enough sitting in the vault that I would love to see again.
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: pyrfan on November 05, 2003, 05:00:34 PM
Easy answer for me: Bill Cullen's "$25,000 Pyramid." All 150 episodes exist, and we'd get to see stars like Penny Marshall, Joan Rivers, George Hamilton, Kate Jackson, Frank Gifford, Rue McClanahan, Peggy Cass, Betsy Palmer, Robert Urich, Rob Reiner, Garry Moore, John Ritter, and Dick Clark (!!!) play.

As far as things GSN already has in their possession, I'd be very happy to see "$20,000 Pyramid" back on the schedule.


Brendan
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: cweaver on November 08, 2003, 02:01:53 PM
[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Oct 19 2003, 02:51 AM\']Assuming you mean the original runs, all of these shows are rumored to be destroyed...

(snip)

Original Concentration is likely gone; Narz and Trebek should still exist.[/quote]
I *still* haven't given up that some of these may turn up in a vault, after all we were told we would never, ever see a Marshall "Squares" again and look what happened there.  (I haven't given up on the ABC "Password" either.)  But if I actually had to lay money on something still being in existence, it would be the Narz version of "Concentration."  But it could be tied up by the same type of cross-ownership legal red tape as "The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour."  It's a shame, as I recently ran across a beautifully preserved, taped-off-the-air copy of *just* the closing of a Narz-hosted "Concentration," complete with the earth-toned Chevette parked in the middle of the set, and it sure left me wanting more.

Dixon
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: cweaver on November 08, 2003, 02:11:22 PM
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Oct 14 2003, 01:00 PM\'] Is there anything left that GSN could feasbily make a profit on?  Aside from TPIR and maybe the (future) PAX castoffs (SS and STYD), I can't think of much left that doesn't fall under the "too obscure to spend money on" blanket. [/quote]
 I think if it ever turns up (and once again, I haven't given up hope) the ABC "Password" would do well, considering the TV Land celebs who appear on that incarnation (Elizabeth Montgomery, Florence Henderson, Ed Asner, etc).
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on November 08, 2003, 06:12:27 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Oct 30 2003, 07:55 AM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 29 2003, 11:18 PM\'] [quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 20 2003, 08:25 AM\']



 [/quote]
USA didn't show any Jack Barry TJW either.  I thought the reason might be because both Allen and Jack were deceased before the USA airings, however they did show Bobby Van's MML. [/quote]
USA continued to show Convy's WLoD after his death(though they first aired Syndie WLOD while he was still alive) [/quote]
 Wasn't Convy the syndie host?
Title: Shows that Game Show Network should get.
Post by: zachhoran on November 08, 2003, 07:26:16 PM
[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 8 2003, 06:12 PM\']
USA continued to show Convy's WLoD after his death(though they first aired Syndie WLOD while he was still alive) [/QUOTE]
Wasn't Convy the syndie host? [/quote]
 Yes, Convy did indeed host the first two years of the Syndie run. USA may well have been been showing Robb Weller's season when COnvy passed(they started with 1988-89, then went to 1989-90, then back to 1987-88 before taking it off)