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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: entguy1 on December 15, 2006, 01:15:11 PM
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http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/t..._down_dave.html (http://\"http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/2006/12/verne_gay_come_on_down_dave.html\")
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Fair warning to any member considering doing harm to himself/himself over this: if you kill yourself, we will revoke your posting privileges immediately.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'140602\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 01:25 PM\']
Fair warning to any member considering doing harm to himself/himself over this: if you kill yourself, we will revoke your posting privileges immediately.
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Umm...possible "Line of the Day" consideration here?
How reliable are these people anyway? I haven't heard anything from them in the past.
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I'm taking some salt (covered on pretzel sticks) with this one. Yeah, replace a famous game show host with an inept television host who has to read cue cards. That will go over well.
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[quote name=\'TonicBH\' post=\'140605\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 01:31 PM\']
I'm taking some salt (covered on pretzel sticks) with this one. Yeah, replace a famous game show host with an inept television host who has to read cue cards. That will go over well.
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Oh, but it *has* to be true, I read it on Wikipedia too! Wikipedia is *always* right. :)
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I wonder if they would ever consider moving Price to NY or even Atlantic City so Dave wouldn't have to commute every week.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'140616\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 01:05 PM\']
I wonder if they would ever consider moving Price to NY or even Atlantic City so Dave wouldn't have to commute every week.
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Why? If Chenbot can do the news from L.A. while hosting BB, Price can do the weather from L.A. as well.
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Well, maybe to make Dave feel more at home, all the TPIR pricing games will be played on a green screen :-)
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'140603\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 01:29 PM\']
How reliable are these people anyway? I haven't heard anything from them in the past. [/quote]
I'd consider as a New Yorker, for Newsday to be a bit more of a reliable source than the other papers here.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'140647\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 04:35 PM\']
I'd consider as a New Yorker, for Newsday to be a bit more of a reliable source than the other papers here.
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When I was in New York, I preferred it to the post, being it seemed like the more professional paper.
/Then again, so did my high school's newspaper.
//And that's saying a LOT!
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From the article:
I hear he'll handle "Early" from Monday through Thursday, then fly to the coast for the game show tapings on Friday.
I have a feeling that he heard wrong... or maybe this was just made up?
There is no way they could produce enough episodes a year by only taping on Friday. They can't tape more than two shows in one day as it is, given the crowds that turn out on Monday.
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At the tryout last week, it was said they did three shows in one day. If they did two more shows on Saturday, Dave could fly back on Sat. Eve, enjoy Sunday in NY and be ready for the Early Show on Monday morn.
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"...and is considered a key to the morning show's success."
If you're deluded enough to consider The Early Show a "success", or that a competent but unknown weather reader is "key" to that success, I guess you can delude yourself into thinking just about anybody is a decent game show host.
Simple Q test: Say "Al Roker", and people know who that is. Say "Dave Price" and people don't know who that is. Outside of a little publicity mileage out of the cute name coincidence, this would be a big shoulder-shrug for most folks. Even if he's good (and if he was even good, wouldn't someone have come forward and told us?) this doesn't register as a morning TV story the way the hirings of Meredith Viera and Rosie O'Donnell did.
Also, honestly, if this really was a done deal, I would expect that it would have been leaked at Golden Road or here first. There are people on both forums (especially G-R) who are better connected to TPIR than a beat reporter on the wrong coast.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'140665\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 05:39 PM\']
Also, honestly, if this really was a done deal, I would expect that it would have been leaked at Golden Road or here first. There are people on both forums (especially G-R) who are better connected to TPIR than a beat reporter on the wrong coast.
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Our roving TPiR Reporter Don Howard would have broken the news. Remember one October 31? Yup. He was the first on the scene.
/he'll be here sometime, hopefully
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'140665\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 04:39 PM\']
Simple Q test: Say "Al Roker", and people know who that is. Say "Dave Price" and people don't know who that is. Outside of a little publicity mileage out of the cute name coincidence, this would be a big shoulder-shrug for most folks. Even if he's good (and if he was even good, wouldn't someone have come forward and told us?) this doesn't register as a morning TV story the way the hirings of Meredith Viera and Rosie O'Donnell did.[/quote]
Bless your heart for pointing this out; this is what's going to affect DoND's syndie sales. If someone were to say "Howie Mandel" or "Marc Curry," who would be picked off the bat? Name recognition will bring you to the plate, the game will keep you there.
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'140646\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 01:32 PM\']
Well, maybe to make Dave feel more at home, all the TPIR pricing games will be played on a green screen :-)
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There's your line of the day.
I am told that at last weekend's tapings, Dave Price was still struggling to master the format of a small number of stage games. In discussing this with a fellow member of this board, we concluded that if the format isn't second nature to Mr. Price, he won't be able to milk for laughs the way-out contestant or unexpected situation as Barker is able to do.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'140680\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 06:41 PM\']
...was still struggling to master the format of a small number of stage games...
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Maybe it's just because I know the general rules of all the games, what games could he possbily have difficulty with? I can understand "Triple Play", "Check Out", and maybe "Pocket Change".
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'140660\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 05:19 PM\']At the tryout last week, it was said they did three shows in one day. If they did two more shows on Saturday, Dave could fly back on Sat. Eve, enjoy Sunday in NY and be ready for the Early Show on Monday morn.[/quote]
At a tryout, you can keep audience members from show to show, not have to worry about stopdowns and retaping errors, and so forth. (People who actually work in teevee, correct this with extreme prejudice.)
I can think of lots of games that a host unsuited for TPIR could have trouble with. The pricing part of Plinko needs a particular explanation each time. You have to remind contestants about stopping at $1,000 on Grand Game. Check Game . . . well, just imagine the average Check Game contestant's explanation of the game.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'140665\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 06:39 PM\']
Simple Q test: Say "Al Roker", and people know who that is. Say "Dave Price" and people don't know who that is. Outside of a little publicity mileage out of the cute name coincidence, this would be a big shoulder-shrug for most folks. Even if he's good (and if he was even good, wouldn't someone have come forward and told us?) this doesn't register as a morning TV story the way the hirings of Meredith Viera and Rosie O'Donnell did.
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Agreed. If hired, Dave Price will be to TPIR as Rolf Binerschke was to Wheel Of Fortune. Unless you lived in San Diego or were a fan of the Chargers, Rolf was a nobody to 80% of the country.
Given The Early Show's 'stellar' ratings (sarcasm meter calibration check is now complete), and how he was known by only a select few in the Big Apple area (based on WCBS's news ratings), he is running on the same level of familiarity as Rolf with a large majority of the country.
That being said, even if CBS tries to force Dave Price down our throats for Season 36, and he Rolf's out in the ratings, TPiR will survive...somehwere, if not on CBS -- someone will make that cash cow work with a good emcee!
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what games could he possbily have difficulty with?
Any of them. Things have to be presented in a specific way for all (INSERT NUMBER) of games because you're working with the director who has to get the right pictures on at the right time. This requires that cameras be in the right places, etc.
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I still say the show and CBS would benefit from going with an unknown.
Someone with a strong background in broadcasting that could interact with the contestants the way Barker does, and is familiar enough with the show that the rules of the games aren't a big problem for them. The mechanics of the production, staging, etc. can be learned.
Also, if they go with an unknown there is the huge upside of postive PR. CBS could position it in such a way that Barker would appear to be "paying it forward" by giving a break to an unknown the same way Ralph Edwards did for him fifty years ago.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'140688\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 08:44 PM\']
what games could he possbily have difficulty with?
Any of them. Things have to be presented in a specific way for all (INSERT NUMBER) of games because you're working with the director who has to get the right pictures on at the right time. This requires that cameras be in the right places, etc.
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Agreed! Tell that same comment to R. Brian DiPirro or to the post-production editors and the "sweeteners" of Deal or No Deal.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'140602\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 02:25 PM\']
Fair warning to any member considering doing harm to himself/himself over this: if you kill yourself, we will revoke your posting privileges immediately.
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I've always advocated the death penalty for those who commit suicide, myself.
I have no idea who Dave Price is. Would TPTB consider Todd Newton... not that he's a household name either.
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The TV Guide Channel also mentioned that Dave's got the gig. Ok Dave, you have about 6 months to learn EVERY game and nuance that made TPIR work for 35 years. Good luck!
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I have remained very neutral with this transition period for a number of reasons.
The Staff of the Production Company have not been given ANY official word of the hiring of a new host.
I will definately not dispute that Dave Price is not being highly considered, but as far as the folks that work in the bungalow know, no decision has been made.
CBS making their own "premature" decisions is a completely different story, I'm sure.
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Depending on who is hired to fill Bob's shoes, might there be a possibility that some of those important staffers (some who have been there since or close to Day One and are now in their 50's or 60's) take an early retirement (like Bob) so they can leave on a high note as well, or are they under contract with Fremantle and pretty much have to fufill their terms?
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'140684\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 03:33 PM\']
Agreed. If hired, Dave Price will be to TPIR as Rolf Binerschke was to Wheel Of Fortune.
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Or of course, Patrick Wayne was to Tic Tac Dough '90.
Jonathan Allen
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[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' post=\'140711\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 02:23 AM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'140684\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 03:33 PM\']
Agreed. If hired, Dave Price will be to TPIR as Rolf Binerschke was to Wheel Of Fortune.
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Or of course, Patrick Wayne was to Tic Tac Dough '90.
Jonathan Allen
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That really doesn't count, in my opinion, because Wayne's show was a revival/rework of the format, and Wayne wasn't a direct successor to Wink, like Rolf was.
Of course, replace "Patrick Wayne" with "Jim Caldwell" and take the '90 out, and you're fine.
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[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' post=\'140711\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 11:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'140684\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 03:33 PM\']
Agreed. If hired, Dave Price will be to TPIR as Rolf Binerschke was to Wheel Of Fortune.
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Or of course, Patrick Wayne was to Tic Tac Dough '90.
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Or Pat O'Brien was to....no, wait, that's wrong. Pat O'Brien has improved every show he's touched. That guy's great.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'140712\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 03:35 AM\']
[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' post=\'140711\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 02:23 AM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'140684\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 03:33 PM\']
Agreed. If hired, Dave Price will be to TPIR as Rolf Binerschke was to Wheel Of Fortune.
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Or of course, Patrick Wayne was to Tic Tac Dough '90.
Jonathan Allen
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That really doesn't count, in my opinion, because Wayne's show was a revival/rework of the format, and Wayne wasn't a direct successor to Wink, like Rolf was.
Of course, replace "Patrick Wayne" with "Jim Caldwell" and take the '90 out, and you're fine.
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And of course, Paul Rodrieguez played "The Rolf" on The Newlywed Game in 1988-89,.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'140719\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 06:44 AM\']
Pat O'Brien has improved every show he's touched. That guy's great.
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Pat O. has improved every thing he's touched. He's greater than great.
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And to continue on his unexceptional track record, Price was weatherman at WBBM in Chicago in the mid-90s, at the absolute low point of that news shop's recent history, before he moved to Philadelphia and then on to New York.
But if you've got Les Moonves' wife in your corner, perhaps it is all a fait accompli.
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A friendly reminder to those of you -- and you know who you are -- who have emailed or IMed me, or are thinking of doing so, to ask that the moderators of the Game Show Forum take an official position on who should replace Bob: no, that would not "guarantee" that our choice would get the job, and no, we're not seeking suggestions for such a campaign.
Thank you for your attention. That is all.
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The Staff of the Production Company have not been given ANY official word of the hiring of a new host.
I will definately not dispute that Dave Price is not being highly considered, but as far as the folks that work in the bungalow know, no decision has been made.
CBS making their own "premature" decisions is a completely different story, I'm sure.
This raises the question of how many test tapings will it take to convince Julie and Les CBS that he's not the right guy?
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'140750\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 11:28 AM\']
A friendly reminder to those of you -- and you know who you are -- who have emailed or IMed me, or are thinking of doing so, to ask that the moderators of the Game Show Forum take an official position on who should replace Bob:
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Tell me you're joking.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'140772\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 04:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'140750\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 11:28 AM\']
A friendly reminder to those of you -- and you know who you are -- who have emailed or IMed me, or are thinking of doing so, to ask that the moderators of the Game Show Forum take an official position on who should replace Bob:
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Tell me you're joking.
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I wish I were.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'140780\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 03:33 PM\']
I wish I were.
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Names. I want names.
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I was gonna suggest Matt O. be our official pick, but do they have flights out of Lansing?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'140781\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 06:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'140780\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 03:33 PM\']
I wish I were.
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Names. I want names.
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Frankly, I'm not sure what would be more enlightening: the names of the people who made the request, or the names of the people they want us to endorse. (Few would be surprised at the former and I haven't worked up the courage to ask for the latter.)
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'140785\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 09:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'140781\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 06:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'140780\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 03:33 PM\']
I wish I were.
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Names. I want names.
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Frankly, I'm not sure what would be more enlightening: the names of the people who made the request, or the names of the people they want us to endorse. ([/quote]
Yeah, I want to find out who's been e-mailing the "Pat O'Brien for TPiR'07 and Beyond" campaign spam as well!! Oh, Donald....??? :-P
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If he is named host as expected, give him at least two years, if he does last that long. Remember what happened with Dylan Lane.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'140826\' date=\'Dec 17 2006, 02:05 PM\']
If he is named host as expected, give him at least two years, if he does last that long. Remember what happened with Dylan Lane.
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And you remember what happened with Richard Karn. Four years, and he acted the same way he did his rookie year.
If CBS doesn't go for someone who established themselves at TPiR Live, then their priorities are in the wrong place. I understand the "Early Show" thing, and how it would be oh-so-cute to have a host named "Price", but if he can't host his way out of a paper bag, then to hell with him.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'140826\' date=\'Dec 17 2006, 11:05 AM\']
If he is named host as expected, give him at least two years, if he does last that long. Remember what happened with Dylan Lane.
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Dylan Lane got good? Did I miss this?
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Don't forget about how we felt about Howie Mandel taking on a game show and he turned ou great to surprise us all. I'd give Dave a year to see if he settles in.
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[quote name=\'GSmaniac\' post=\'140832\' date=\'Dec 17 2006, 12:37 PM\']
Don't forget about how we felt about Howie Mandel taking on a game show and he turned ou great to surprise us all. I'd give Dave a year to see if he settles in.
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And if that helps you not to throw your TV out the window, that's spiffy, but there are several factors that make that argument utterly irrelevant:- Deal was an unproven format. (For some of us, it still is, at least the way they're doing it in the US.) If people don't know what to expect, they're not gonna worry overmuch about the host. TPiR has been around for 30 years, people have expectations, and it's arguably the highest-profile job in the industry.
- People at least knew Howie's name. Maybe not as a game-show host, but they knew who he was. As much as CBS would like to believe otherwise, nobody knows who Dave Price is.
- Howie was rough at the start, but didn't abjectly suck. By all reports, this guy is horrible.
Of course I'm willing to see myself, just as I was with Mandel (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=9174&view=findpost&p=100888\"), but with Mandel I had a blank slate to work from, and in this case we have documented proof that he's just not at the level the job calls for.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'140742\' date=\'Dec 16 2006, 10:22 AM\']
And to continue on his unexceptional track record, Price was weatherman at WBBM in Chicago in the mid-90s, at the absolute low point of that news shop's recent history, before he moved to Philadelphia and then on to New York.
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Wait, he stunk up weather in Philly? Glad I missed that! Anyway, maybe I missed this in another post, but could this columnist be 'pimping' for Dave by saying he already got the job? In other words, Dave is telling him that he has the job (when he actually doesn't yet) to make himself look good (and get a raise at the 'Early Show' in the process).
I work in conspiracy theories as a living...
Josh
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You're forgetting the fact that Howie has vast experience working in front of live audiences. Dave Price has vast experience working in front of green screens. It's simple arithmetic.
Howie is also a formidable writer, from what I gather.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'140843\' date=\'Dec 17 2006, 04:57 PM\']
Howie is also a formidable writer, from what I gather.
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Not to mention an actor...he can work well with the material on D/ND. Plus his work with "Bobby's World" is perfect for the cartoon that D/ND is! ;-)
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And just how credible is this report?
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The other thing here is too they have 9 months, not 6. Remember, TPIR seasons don't officially begin until September.
The factor of the Early Show is a big one. WIth the departure of Rene, there's an issue of what CBS will do with that trainwreck as it is.
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The season may not begin until September, but when you account for the taping schedule (see CBS.com/daytime/price) the new season has to go into production in JUNE. (Although that can and could change)
RIght now, my feeling is CBS or the show will name Bob's successor no later than the NCAA Break in March - and I don't hold high hopes for Mr. Price. There's some looking to do yet.
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[quote name=\'joe_capitano\' post=\'140868\' date=\'Dec 18 2006, 02:25 AM\']
The season may not begin until September, but when you account for the taping schedule (see CBS.com/daytime/price) the new season has to go into production in JUNE. (Although that can and could change)
RIght now, my feeling is CBS or the show will name Bob's successor no later than the NCAA Break in March - and I don't hold high hopes for Mr. Price. There's some looking to do yet.
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And weren't the first TPIRs shot within a couple weeks of its Debut in Sept 1972? There's also the possiblity they'll have to convert the BB studio to HD. That's going to require quite a bit of planning and modifications.
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'140918\' date=\'Dec 18 2006, 06:31 PM\']
[quote name=\'joe_capitano\' post=\'140868\' date=\'Dec 18 2006, 02:25 AM\']
The season may not begin until September, but when you account for the taping schedule (see CBS.com/daytime/price) the new season has to go into production in JUNE. (Although that can and could change)
RIght now, my feeling is CBS or the show will name Bob's successor no later than the NCAA Break in March - and I don't hold high hopes for Mr. Price. There's some looking to do yet.
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And weren't the first TPIRs shot within a couple weeks of its Debut in Sept 1972? There's also the possiblity they'll have to convert the BB studio to HD. That's going to require quite a bit of planning and modifications.
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Why would they have to convert? There's nobody pushing them to. They would have to rehab the games to eliminate the blemishes for HD. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it. But there's no benefit for them to do so.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'140919\' date=\'Dec 18 2006, 07:35 PM\']
Why would they have to convert? There's nobody pushing them to. They would have to rehab the games to eliminate the blemishes for HD. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it. But there's no benefit for them to do so.
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Actually there's a very good reason...money. if the BB studio is configured for HD, there's more business CBS can generate from production houses needing to shoot HD shows.
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One name that hasn't been mentioned as a possible host:
Ken Jennings
Think about it. I would bet his Q score is higher than Mr. Price's. He has instant name and face recognition. He's very personable. He's got that Grandma likeability. The college set would connect with him, since he has the hipness and quick witted.
Whaddya think? Ken, would you do the trip from Seattle to Television City?
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[quote name=\'toddyo\' post=\'141009\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 10:17 AM\']
One name that hasn't been mentioned as a possible host:
Ken Jennings
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With all due respect to Ken (and I have to think he would be the first to agree), there's a reason for that.
Think about it. I would bet his Q score is higher than Mr. Price's
My Q-score is higher than Mr. Price's.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141011\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 01:51 PM\']
[quote name=\'toddyo\' post=\'141009\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 10:17 AM\']
One name that hasn't been mentioned as a possible host:
Ken Jennings
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With all due respect to Ken (and I have to think he would be the first to agree), there's a reason for that.
Think about it. I would bet his Q score is higher than Mr. Price's
My Q-score is higher than Mr. Price's.
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I totally agree about Ken on TPIR, but this reminds me that he did host a game on public TV here in Minneapolis and was pretty darn good. It was College Bowl but with high schools, so not a complex format, but he was witty and smooth.
And Chris, isn't likability factored somewhere into one's Q score?
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'141014\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 11:54 AM\']
And Chris, isn't likability factored somewhere into one's Q score?
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Absolutely. Isn't to know me to love me? :)
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[quote name=\'toddyo\' post=\'141009\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 01:17 PM\']
One name that hasn't been mentioned as a possible host:
Ken Jennings[/quote]
I don't think be a contestant on a game show translates into being the next Great Emcee. Yes, we have plenty of local quiz hosts on this board, but they are local, and it's not primarily because they were contestants. Besides, if we want a former J! contestant to host Price, I'll take Bob Harris. ^^;
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'140705\' date=\'Dec 15 2006, 11:39 PM\']
Depending on who is hired to fill Bob's shoes, might there be a possibility that some of those important staffers (some who have been there since or close to Day One and are now in their 50's or 60's) take an early retirement (like Bob) so they can leave on a high note as well, or are they under contract with Fremantle and pretty much have to fulfill their terms?
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From the same source as last time, the word is that all contracts have been amended so that all staffers' pacts now end in early June 2007.
About the Dave Price tryout, I hear the intro had to be done seven (count 'em) seven times for reasons which include his waving to America upon the opening of the door [Blake Emmons used to do that] and not acknowledging the audience.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141016\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 01:59 PM\']
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'141014\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 11:54 AM\']
And Chris, isn't likability factored somewhere into one's Q score?
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Absolutely. Isn't to know me to love me? :)
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That's the third monitor this month. Geez!
:-D
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'141025\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 04:02 PM\']
That's the third monitor this month. Geez!
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"Geez!"? What, did you throw it out the window too?
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'141018\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 03:19 PM\']
I don't think be a contestant on a game show translates into being the next Great Emcee.
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Hey now, what about Mike Reilly? Er...well...OK, point taken.
I actually wouldn't mind seeing Ken hosting a show if the opportunity came up, but TPiR doesn't seem like his "style." Speaking of which, did that Comedy Central show he was slated to be the focus of officially fall through? It seems like we haven't heard much about it lately.
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[quote name=\'SamJ93\' post=\'141033\' date=\'Dec 19 2006, 04:31 PM\']
Speaking of which, did that Comedy Central show he was slated to be the focus of officially fall through? It seems like we haven't heard much about it lately.
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His website mentioned something about the success of "The Colbert Report" putting the game on the back burner.
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The only Colbert I want to see on my TV is Colbert Television Sales.
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About the Dave Price tryout, I hear the intro had to be done seven (count 'em) seven times for reasons which include his waving to America upon the opening of the door [Blake Emmons used to do that] and not acknowledging the audience.
SEVEN TIMES for what, 20 steps to be in front of contestant's row?!? Yikes, you know what, that should be a wakeup call to Les Moonves right there. To "personalize" or screw up once or twice on an intro, that's OK...but SEVEN TIMES?!?! Excuse me if I'm looking too deep into his audition, but it sounds like Dave played "Unlucky Seven". (Losing horns for Dave AND the bad pun by me.)
James
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This may be late to the party again, but I was watching to see how this thread fleshed out. I was watching a bit of TV Land's "100 Most Famous Catchlines, etc." last weekend and saw a comment made by Dave Price, and right below his name was "The Price Is Right". Looked awfully official. Didn't say "being considered"....
Should that be considered based on inside knowledge or not?
Seven times??? Sure, it's a new routine for him, but if you can't get it right by the third time at most.....
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A good number of on-line versions of major newspapers are reporting it as fact as well. Most refer to the Newsday article as source. Is there another source, or is this a story that to most papers is a throwaway item?
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You know, if I was Dave Price's manager, or publicist, or whatever, this is exactly how I'd be mounting my campaign to keep my guy as the front runner. Drop a story to Newsday. Tip off a reporter, which is how this thread got started. (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10885&st=0\") Make appearances on goofy little VH1 shows where you can drop in an ID like that, and then if anyone says something, call it an accident. It sure seems as though if this was the foregone conclusion that everybody wants to think it is, we would have heard something a little more definite by now. Just seems pretty calculated to me.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'141093\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 01:16 PM\']
You know, if I was Dave Price's manager, or publicist, or whatever, this is exactly how I'd be mounting my campaign to keep my guy as the front runner.[/quote]
I have no doubt that's how this engine got running.
Helen Kushnick pulled the same sort of garbage to pump Jay Leno in the press in the spring of 1991 and the next thing we knew, Johnny Carson was retiring, Jay was given The Tonight Show job and David Letterman was, eventually, off to CBS.
The book The Late Shift is fascinating reading. The HBO movie was, in my opinion, a waste of time.
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Didn't Jay Leno's former manager Helen Kushnik do something like that during the battle for The Tonight Show?
That is, drop a story to one of the papers that Jay already had the job back when it wasn't official yet.
Is this a fairly common practice in Hollywood?
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I dunno, but the tactic seems to work and if it is untrue, wouldn't somebody at CBS or Fremantle officially say Price is not the guy?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'141104\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 01:00 PM\']
Helen Kushnick pulled the same sort of garbage to pump Jay Leno in the press in the spring of 1991
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[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' post=\'141105\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 01:01 PM\']
Didn't Jay Leno's former manager Helen Kushnik do something like that during the battle for The Tonight Show?
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Simulpost! :)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'141106\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 03:09 PM\']
I dunno, but the tactic seems to work and if it is untrue, wouldn't somebody at CBS or Fremantle officially say Price is not the guy?
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One would think.
Maybe they're waiting for E! or "Access Hollywood" to report the rumor before they say anything. (I think they can keep "ET" and "The Insider Starring PAT O'BRIEN!" under control.)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'141106\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 04:09 PM\']
I dunno, but the tactic seems to work and if it is untrue, wouldn't somebody at CBS or Fremantle officially say Price is not the guy?
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I don't think it's possible to say Price is not the guy, when he may end up being the guy. If CBS issues a release saying "No, it's not him" and then it ends up being him, it just causes more undue upset.
No decisions yet, folks. Happy Holidays!
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[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'141116\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 07:08 PM\']
I don't think it's possible to say Price is not the guy, when he may end up being the guy. If CBS issues a release saying "No, it's not him" and then it ends up being him, it just causes more undue upset.
No decisions yet, folks. Happy Holidays!
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There's nothing to stop them from saying "There's been no decision yet" if there hasn't. Doesn't make anyone look foolish or cause anymore upset. If they've already decided strictly on a handshake, they could even get away with "No one's been signed yet." I should know, we're going through that crap right now here in Alabama, looking for a new head football coach for the Crimson Tide.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141109\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 04:41 PM\']
Simulpost! :)
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My apologies. Long thread and I must not have caught that.
One would figure at this point the only statement CBS or FreeMantle could make is that no decision has been made. Which is pretty much restating the obvious. They'll never announce who it isn't, just who it is.
...And who knows when that's going to happen.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'141118\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 06:43 PM\']
There's nothing to stop them from saying "There's been no decision yet" if there hasn't. Doesn't make anyone look foolish or cause anymore upset. If they've already decided strictly on a handshake, they could even get away with "No one's been signed yet." I should know, we're going through that crap right now here in Alabama, looking for a new head football coach for the Crimson Tide.
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They already have said "no decision has been made." How do you think this whole thing started? There is no reason for them to reiterate what they've said from the beginning. Don't look for weekly updates from CBS. When they're ready to break the news, you'll hear the official word right from CBS. Every paper and news outlet will cover it. Speculative reports will continue, however!
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[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' post=\'141119\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 03:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141109\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 04:41 PM\']
Simulpost! :)
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My apologies.
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Nothing to apologize for, you just posted the same thing within like a minute of Don and I was pointing it out. :)
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What CBS isn't doing is calling Verne Gay and telling him that he's putting out either incorrect or premature info in an NY paper. My gut feeling is that DP as host is a fait accompli.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'141122\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 08:15 PM\']
My gut feeling is that DP as host is a fait accompli.
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There are some over-the-counter laxatives which can fix that problem, you know, cause you shouldn't have to suffer. :-)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'141122\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 07:15 PM\']
What CBS isn't doing is calling Verne Gay and telling him that he's putting out either incorrect or premature info in an NY paper. My gut feeling is that DP as host is a fait accompli.
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The attitude of big media vs. gossip columnists is such : They're pond scum, and we won't stoop to their level so they can requote us and attempt to sell more papers.
So who put the bug up Verne's ass about Dave? Probably Dave, Dave's New York agent, or Dave's New York publicist.
This isn't the first time Dave's been on Page 6 or in Newsday.... a few years ago, when Price was still at Fox5, he took a 3 week sickout to hold out for a new contract. He got one, and a year later, still jumped to CBS. The "No Dave" Drama was played in the papers almost every day in the gossip columns.
It's PT Barnum 101, folks.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'141124\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 07:31 PM\']
This isn't the first time Dave's been on Page 6 or in Newsday.... a few years ago, when Price was still at Fox5, he took a 3 week sickout to hold out for a new contract. He got one, and a year later, still jumped to CBS. The "No Dave" Drama was played in the papers almost every day in the gossip columns.
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So, in other words, Newsday has a somewhat apparent hard-on for all things Dave Price, or just likes stirring empty pots?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'141125\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 07:47 PM\']
Newsday has a somewhat apparent hard-on for all things Dave Pric
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There, fixed that for you. :)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'141126\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 07:49 PM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'141125\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 07:47 PM\']
Newsday has a somewhat apparent hard-on for all things Dave Pric
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There, fixed that for you. :)
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Oy. Original post edited accordingly.
/And a gold star.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'141127\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 07:56 PM\']
/And a gold star.
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/That's like two in a week
//Moving to the head of the class
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[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' post=\'141119\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 06:48 PM\']
My apologies. Long thread and I must not have caught that.
One would figure at this point the only statement CBS or FreeMantle could make is that no decision has been made. Which is pretty much restating the obvious. They'll never announce who it isn't, just who it is.
...And who knows when that's going to happen.
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It's about six months or less, because that's when Season 36 would start taping (and Season 35 stops taping). You'd have some very unhappy prospective audience members if there were a delay because a host isn't in place, because you know CBS and Fremantle needs more rope to hang themselves with.
Oh, and unless Robert DiPirro magically started working on The Price is Right, seven takes is a bad thing.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'141130\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 09:04 PM\']
I do. It's about six months or less, because that's when Season 36 would start taping (and Season 35 stops taping). You'd have some very unhappy prospective audience members if there were a delay because a host isn't in place, because you know CBS and Fremantle needs more rope to hang themselves with.
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I doubt if it'll be that big of a deal. Even if CBS doesn't make an announcement, they'll probably gonna go to a revolving guest host format. They did it when Craig Kilborn left "The Late Late Show"*, they did it for Rod's replacement, and honestly, it wouldn't hurt here. Let the viewers see who could be taking over the show, and have them offer input. Bob made the announcement in what, October? Don't be in such a rush to fill his shoes, and wind up regretting the mistake.
*No, I'm not comparing Bob Barker to Craig Kilborn. Just making a statement.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'141131\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 09:10 PM\']
I doubt if it'll be that big of a deal. Even if CBS doesn't make an announcement, they'll probably gonna go to a revolving guest host format. They did it when Craig Kilborn left "The Late Late Show"*, they did it for Rod's replacement, and honestly, it wouldn't hurt here. Let the viewers see who could be taking over the show, and have them offer input. Bob made the announcement in what, October? Don't be in such a rush to fill his shoes, and wind up regretting the mistake.
*No, I'm not comparing Bob Barker to Craig Kilborn. Just making a statement.
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I can't imagine them doing that.
Revolving hosts on a show nobody watches? Yeah.
Revolving announcers on a popular show where the host stays intact? Yeah.
Revolving hosts on a show that is the cornerstone of the daytime lineup?
I can't imagine it happening.
The Price gig is something a bit too important to trivialize it by letting a bunch of people do it for weeks. Besides, what if everyone who tuned in during the revolving announcer phase heard Paul Boland and was completely turned off of the show? That won't happen with announcers. That can happen with hosts.
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a few years ago, when Price was still at Fox5, he took a 3 week sickout to hold out for a new contract. He got one, and a year later, still jumped to CBS
And they're still seriously considering him?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'141131\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 09:10 PM\']I doubt if it'll be that big of a deal. Even if CBS doesn't make an announcement, they'll probably gonna go to a revolving guest host format. They did it when Craig Kilborn left "The Late Late Show"*, they did it for Rod's replacement, and honestly, it wouldn't hurt here. Let the viewers see who could be taking over the show, and have them offer input. Bob made the announcement in what, October? Don't be in such a rush to fill his shoes, and wind up regretting the mistake.[/quote]
If they preface the rotating hosts by saying they want viewer input, that's good, but I believe if Price is to stay afloat, it would behoove the powers that be to be a full supporter of somebody. Otherwise, it'll look like CBS is serving up a side of waffling.
I'm not sure how well viewer input is going to work, anyway. Half the audience will probably be expecting Dick Clark, and the other half will probably be expecting Ryan Seacrest.
To your argument's credit, though, Craig Ferguson is hella funny, so it might work out in the end.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141121\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 07:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' post=\'141119\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 03:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141109\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 04:41 PM\']
Simulpost! :)
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My apologies.
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Nothing to apologize for, you just posted the same thing within like a minute of Don and I was pointing it out. :)
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It also means we owe each other a Coke.
Back to topic, Dave's attempt at an audition has opened some eyes, it seems, as I'm told these people are now being considered for tryouts:
John O'Hurley, Rich Fields, Todd Newton, Sam Champion and Tara Conner fan club president Rosie O'Donnell.
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Ohhh...Sam Champion would be cool... "Let's meet our champion for today...and everyday...SAM CHAMPION!" Dave Price could announce.
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Sam Champion?!?! That's out of left field. Well, if we're keeping with the "weather" theme, it's a step up from trying to say "here is the STAR of The Price is Right, Dave Price!" 40 different ways...actually, the only way I could hear Rich saying that is with vocal emphasis on his first name. Oh well...besides, the weatherman to game show host thing worked out pretty well for Pat Sajak (and to a much lesser degree, Kevin O'Connell).
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[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'141165\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 11:49 AM\']
Sam Champion?!?! That's out of left field. Well, if we're keeping with the "weather" theme, it's a step up from trying to say "here is the STAR of The Price is Right, Dave Price!" 40 different ways...actually, the only way I could hear Rich saying that is with vocal emphasis on his first name. Oh well...besides, the weatherman to game show host thing worked out pretty well for Pat Sajak (and to a much lesser degree, Kevin O'Connell).
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Didn't do much for David Letterman, though.
Which is fine, as Dave found other employment.
/The first I had ever heard of Sam Champion was when Dave made references to him while being inteviewed for LATER WITH BOB COSTAS.
//Carson Daly is no Bob Costas.
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Dave's attempt at an audition has opened some eyes, it seems, as I'm told these people are now being considered for tryouts:
John O'Hurley, Rich Fields ... Rosie O'Donnell.
Gack, no! If one of them gets it, I'm taking the Switch? game back.
Why not throw in Louie Anderson and Richard Karn while they're at it?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'141179\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 12:07 PM\']
Gack, no! If one of them gets it, I'm taking the Switch? game back.
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"It's okay, I'm taking it back!" -- Randal Graves, Clerks II
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'141155\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 11:35 AM\']
Dave's attempt at an audition has opened some eyes, it seems, as I'm told these people are now being considered for tryouts:
... Tara Conner fan club president Rosie O'Donnell.
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I haven't seen it posted on the board so if it was it got by me...but Rosie was quoted the other day saying she'd love to do Price but according to her, no one wants her to. Supposedly her contract with The View even allows her out if the TPiR job is ever offered to her.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'141184\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 01:21 PM\']
...but Rosie was quoted the other day saying she'd love to do Price but according to her, no one wants her to.
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Thank God for SOME sensible thinking in this whole process.
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Headline I hope to never see...or would I?
Rosie O'Donnell slated to host, Donald Trump to replace Rich as announcer of hit CBS-TV show
/if you don't get the joke there...you get the biggest WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH ever.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'141216\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 09:41 PM\']
Headline I hope to never see...or would I?
Rosie O'Donnell slated to host, Donald Trump to replace Rich as announcer of hit CBS-TV show
/if you don't get the joke there...you get the biggest WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH ever.
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//Maybe I get a WHOOSH because I don't think it's a joke.
///Because it's not funny.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'141217\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 07:13 PM\']
//Maybe I get a WHOOSH because I don't think it's a joke.
///Because it's not funny.
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While I concur with the lack of teh funnay, I at least got where he was going...apparently Trump and Rosie have been in a huge pissing match over something or another. Mind you, had I not read commentary on this on Mark Cuban's blog today, I would have had no clue.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141220\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 10:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'141217\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 07:13 PM\']
//Maybe I get a WHOOSH because I don't think it's a joke.
///Because it's not funny.
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While I concur with the lack of teh funnay, I at least got where he was going...apparently Trump and Rosie have been in a huge pissing match over something or another. Mind you, had I not read commentary on this on Mark Cuban's blog today, I would have had no clue.
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Oh I got the reference clearly, but thanks anyway.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'141144\' date=\'Dec 21 2006, 02:56 AM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'141131\' date=\'Dec 20 2006, 09:10 PM\']I doubt if it'll be that big of a deal. Even if CBS doesn't make an announcement, they'll probably gonna go to a revolving guest host format. They did it when Craig Kilborn left "The Late Late Show"*, they did it for Rod's replacement, and honestly, it wouldn't hurt here. Let the viewers see who could be taking over the show, and have them offer input. Bob made the announcement in what, October? Don't be in such a rush to fill his shoes, and wind up regretting the mistake.[/quote]
If they preface the rotating hosts by saying they want viewer input, that's good, but I believe if Price is to stay afloat, it would behoove the powers that be to be a full supporter of somebody. Otherwise, it'll look like CBS is serving up a side of waffling.
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Didn't CBS ask for viewer input for Rod Roddy's successor? I thought there was some sort of poll on the CBS website and that a certain GS Forum member was the most popular in the polls, yet didn't get the nod?
Or am I confusing that with one of the Invision polls??
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'141296\' date=\'Dec 22 2006, 04:23 PM\']
Didn't CBS ask for viewer input for Rod Roddy's successor? I thought there was some sort of poll on the CBS website and that a certain GS Forum member was the most popular in the polls, yet didn't get the nod?
Or am I confusing that with one of the Invision polls??
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There was a CBS poll...didn't Bob even tell viewers to go to the website to vote? I remember folks here being outraged when they chose Randy...I might've been one of them.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'141298\' date=\'Dec 22 2006, 04:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'141296\' date=\'Dec 22 2006, 04:23 PM\']
Didn't CBS ask for viewer input for Rod Roddy's successor? I thought there was some sort of poll on the CBS website and that a certain GS Forum member was the most popular in the polls, yet didn't get the nod?
Or am I confusing that with one of the Invision polls??
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There was a CBS poll...didn't Bob even tell viewers to go to the website to vote? I remember folks here being outraged when they chose Randy...I might've been one of them.
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Voice your opinion here (http://\"http://www.cbs.com/daytime/price/community/voice/\")
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It should probably be noted that at least some portion of the TPiR pages on CBS.com have reverted back to a prior state... I'd suspect the poll to vote for announcer would be one such example.
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' post=\'141308\' date=\'Dec 22 2006, 06:37 PM\']
It should probably be noted that at least some portion of the TPiR pages on CBS.com have reverted back to a prior state... I'd suspect the poll to vote for announcer would be one such example.
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That page has been up since the announcer auditions began. There are several other older pages that can be accessed as well that have been there for several years.
It has nothing to do with the homepage looking like it does now. One would think they are doing some sort of updating that went awry.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'141310\' date=\'Dec 22 2006, 06:31 PM\']
That page has been up since the announcer auditions began. There are several other older pages that can be accessed as well that have been there for several years.
It has nothing to do with the homepage looking like it does now. One would think they are doing some sort of updating that went awry.
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I think that can be said of pretty much everything on the TPiR portion of their site. The lead headline mentions MDS tapings, yet they are the dates from a few years ago, per G-R.net.