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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Chelsea Thrasher on September 06, 2003, 03:18:46 PM
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The key part is the ratings numbers.
GSN, per the article, is Down 40% from a year ago (August 2002), with a 0.3 average rating.
That right there speaks VOLUMES. A Year Ago, You had BWTS (WML, TTTT, IGAS, and the Passwords), the evening vertivisions with, among other things, $10K/$20K Pyramid, 60s NG, Combs Syndie FF [Celeb only, sadly], and others [and 80s LMAD from Oct to Dec, but it was HSq in Aug.\), and only 4 originals (Whammy aired before the PM Vertivision, and then Lingo/FoF/RR/NG aired afterwards).
Ya know, I think all this \"progress\" GSN has made (more originals, WL, Love Connection, and, sadly, the MG/FF/PYL/CS/H2 morning blocks [4 of which I could care less about]) has only served to hurt the network.
Normally, a lot of complaints against the network can only be backed up by loose complaints or personal opinions, but, for once, the opinions that say that GSN was better off with a more classics-driven lineup, have the Nielsens to back them up. Of course, at that point, Whammy reruns were averaging around a .6, ditto FoF eps, RR had a .7, and Lingo had a consistent .8, so some originals are good, so that helped bigtime. Of course, it also proves that a moderate # of originals is better than the current overkill
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Boy, billcullen5555/bc1234/bc5 [or whatever he's calling himself this week] is gonna have a FIELD DAY with this at the GSN Boards.
Thanks for the info. I keep saying all the edginess with stuff like the 555-Cram promo and the Debating Game promos with Mary Carey going up and down would turn people off. Let's see what this great new video game block is gonna do.
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Boy, billcullen5555/bc1234/bc5 [or whatever he's calling himself this week] is gonna have a FIELD DAY with this at the GSN Boards.
That's suprising. The mods haven't tried to censor and ban him yet?
Actually, this could be bad for actual game shows on GSN. It could re-infource Cronin's idea that the game show pulls in the lower numbers, meaning that more programming could be introduced to GSN that has absolutely noting to do with game shows in an attempt to get back to what was last August.
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And if he does, I'm seriously hoping that anyone with even the slightest connection to Sony Entertainment or Liberty Media gets on the phone, and starts working towards a firing of Cronin.
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That's suprising. The mods haven't tried to censor and ban him yet?
Probably because he didn't post every day like I did. And IMO, I said more in less posts and more legibly than he did. Notice if you can't type to save your life, they leave you alone.
Actually, this could be bad for actual game shows on GSN. It could re-infource Cronin's idea that the game show pulls in the lower numbers, meaning that more programming could be introduced to GSN that has absolutely noting to do with game shows in an attempt to get back to what was last August.
All we can do now is cross our fingers and hope the video game block is the worst failure this side of What's Going On.
And if he does, I'm seriously hoping that anyone with even the slightest connection to Sony Entertainment or Liberty Media gets on the phone, and starts working towards a firing of Cronin.
And hopefully our old friend Kevin \"MrGameShw\" Belinkoff goes with him. I mean, look at some of the decisions they've made recently:
Casino vs. Cram
Casino was essentially a revival of Gambit, with high stakes and sabotage strategy. Cram, well.....has a Nordic woman with her rubber balloons hanging out on every episode. Guess what got picked up?
The Real Deal
A revival of Wordplay [and it's predecessors, Oh My Word and Take My Word For It] with Greg Proops as host. I guess it wasn't \"edgy\" enough as we haven't heard about it for almost a year.
Telepathy
From what I've gathered, this was a Password-like game. Must have required an IQ higher than 12.
The Scrabble Challenge
See above. Yes, the game as it was did need some tweaks but overall was alot better than WinTuition, Friend or Foe, or Cram. The idea of them actually reworking it is laughable. The original producer, Steve Radosh, worked for Marty Pasetta Productions for many years and was a driving force behind one of the more underrated shows in the last 15 years, The Hollywood Game. Mark Cronin, the new producer? Well.....his name matches Rich's, and he produces Cram. If this farce even makes it on air after the changes, it'll probably have Icey holding the tiles while having her \"B\"s on display.
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 12:35 PM\'] the Debating Game promos with Mary Carey going up and down would turn people off. [/quote]
I wouldn't say Mary Carey bouncing up and down turns me OFF, per se... ;)
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Boy, billcullen5555/bc1234/bc5 [or whatever he's calling himself this week] is gonna have a FIELD DAY with this at the GSN Boards.
Well, I just was over there. You're right, he's REALLY unloading.
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I'm wondering if the issue could be the amount of times these \"65\" shows are rerun.
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Casino vs. Cram
Casino was essentially a revival of Gambit, with high stakes and sabotage strategy. Cram, well.....has a Nordic woman with her rubber balloons hanging out on every episode. Guess what got picked up?
You seem to be fixated on her breasts -- obviously there must be something there which has you captivated.
And Gambit is blackjack but less interesting. It was fine in the 70s and 80s, but it's truly boring television. Cram is a reasonably active (not hyperactive) show that most people can relate to -- who here hasn't pulled an all-nighter?
Telepathy
From what I've gathered, this was a Password-like game. Must have required an IQ higher than 12.
Or maybe because it's not interesting television. Or maybe it had a poor game mechanism.
the opinions that say that GSN was better off with a more classics-driven lineup, have the Nielsens to back them up.
And in a related story, sales of aluminum foil increased fourfold among the internet game show community. The new Neilsens prove little as there are too many factors to count.
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[quote name=\'whampyl03\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 05:57 PM\']
Boy, billcullen5555/bc1234/bc5 [or whatever he's calling himself this week] is gonna have a FIELD DAY with this at the GSN Boards.
Well, I just was over there. You're right, he's REALLY unloading. [/quote]
Man, they REALLY got defensive too! Did you see Guide Angel flat out attack him?
Or maybe because it's not interesting television. Or maybe it had a poor game mechanism.
True. I was theorizing that it was ditched because you needed to be smart to play it, like most word games.
I wouldn't say Mary Carey bouncing up and down turns me OFF, per se... ;)
LOL. But still, is this what this network is becoming [which is why I refereced Icey in my last post]? Moreover, is this what EVERY network is becoming? There's Spike [Lee] TV if you want to see that. There's 14 kajillion docudatergameries if you want to see that. Can't there even be ONE network with some class anymore?
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 06:39 PM\'] Can't there even be ONE network with some class anymore? [/quote]
You're fooling yourself if you thought there ever was. Way back, Ernie Kovacs called television \"A medium. So called because it is neither rare, nor well done.\"
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 09:43 PM\'] [quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 06:39 PM\'] Can't there even be ONE network with some class anymore? [/quote]
You're fooling yourself if you thought there ever was. Way back, Ernie Kovacs called television "A medium. So called because it is neither rare, nor well done." [/quote]
He was right about one thing---television is rarely, if ever, done well. :-P
Comeback: It's not well done and it's not rare. It's raw. ;-)
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Man, they REALLY got defensive too! Did you see Guide Angel flat out attack him?
I've been just re-reminded why the hell I left again. The censorship has gotten quite bad. But I’ll give the moderators the benefit of the doubt. They are on Cronin’s payroll, and I REALLY wouldn't be surprised if Cronin tells all the message board mods that if they let one bad comment out about GSN or himself, or Boden, they'll be handed the pink slip. Probably why the first video game block thread was locked and deleted, a few other video game block threads were locked, and any other anti GSN/Cronin/Boden threads were locked, and some deleted.
Just some speculation on my part, though.
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 06:48 PM\'] Comeback: It's not well done and it's not rare. It's raw. ;-)
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Ernie was funnier.
He was right about one thing---television is rarely, if ever, done well. :-P
And why should it be? For all of the bitching and moaning I hear around here about the quality of television (and I don't want anyone to whine about how they haven't been bitching...if the shoe fits, wear it, and if it doesn't, don't), I get the impression that a lot of people here would have NO IDEA what to do with themselves if their TV was taken away from them. So why should the networks strive for excellence, when it's clear that people are scooping up the crap being distributed and asking for seconds?
If you don't like what the TV networks are showing you, TURN IT OFF. Read a book. Listen to the radio (not that that's much better). Use the video input and play a video game. Play a board game. Go outside. Write a letter and tell the network what you think, even. Best idea of all, for my money.
I'm the last one to deny anyone their God-given right to complain, but I sure get the feeling that a lot of folks here are complaining like hell out of one side of their mouth and spouting utterly inane phrases like \"appointment television\" (to me, the ultimate oxymoron. I make appointments to do IMPORTANT things, like see a doctor or maintain my car. TV is NEVER that important.) out of the other. And nothing annoys me more than hypocrisy.
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[quote name=\'whampyl03\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 09:53 PM\']
Man, they REALLY got defensive too! Did you see Guide Angel flat out attack him?
I've been just re-reminded why the hell I left again. The censorship has gotten quite bad. But I’ll give the moderators the benefit of the doubt. They are on Cronin’s payroll, and I REALLY wouldn't be surprised if Cronin tells all the message board mods that if they let one bad comment out about GSN or himself, or Boden, they'll be handed the pink slip. Probably why the first video game block thread was locked and deleted, a few other video game block threads were locked, and any other anti GSN/Cronin/Boden threads were locked, and some deleted.
Just some speculation on my part, though. [/quote]
Considering that they have an open flamer on there who does it in almost every post he makes, but he's a [Double Talk] backside smoocher [/Double Talk] he's still there. Go figure.
Maybe it was for the better that I was knocked out of there before.....I'd certainly be after this.
ObGameShow: while Googling for info on Allen Ludden's \"Stumpers!\" I came across a post from Randy Amasia that mentioned an unsold pilot from 1977 called \"Backtalk.\" Did he ever tell anyone how it was played?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 09:58 PM\'] [quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 06:48 PM\'] Comeback: It's not well done and it's not rare. It's raw. ;-)
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Ernie was funnier.
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I'm on Funny Money next week. :-P
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 09:00 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 09:58 PM\'] [quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 06:48 PM\'] Comeback: It's not well done and it's not rare. It's raw. ;-)
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Ernie was funnier.
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I'm on Funny Money next week. :-P [/quote]
That's only because Ernie is dead. :-p
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I can not see how the bad ratings is good news for the network. It is the only network dedicated to Game Show programming (for now at least). I never want to hear of a 40% drop, not even if just to say \"I told you so\". I sure hope they improve. I certainly do not want to see a radical shift in programming that low ratings over a long period would certainly stir up (for example: daily video game blocks).
JMHO,
Tim :-)
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 10:20 PM\'] [quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 09:00 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 09:58 PM\'] [quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 06:48 PM\'] Comeback: It's not well done and it's not rare. It's raw. ;-)
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Ernie was funnier.
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I'm on Funny Money next week. :-P [/quote]
That's only because Ernie is dead. :-p [/quote]
Exactly...even Ron Pearson did better than what I could do. :-P
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I can not see how the bad ratings is good news for the network. It is the only network dedicated to Game Show programming (for now at least). I never want to hear of a 40% drop, not even if just to say \"I told you so\". I sure hope they improve. I certainly do not want to see a radical shift in programming that low ratings over a long period would certainly stir up (for example: daily video game blocks).
JMHO,
Tim :-)
I really think, because of the 40% plummet, that Cronin will rid of as many game shows as possible, probably thinking that the game show has finally died, and do not pull in the Nielsons, and, over time, current day classics like \"The Jerry Springer Show\" (Do to the competition between sister and cousin over the same man, making it \"Gaming\" Television) and the Multiple dating shows (because dating is in reality, just a big game, making it gaming television) turning GSN into.....well.....every other channel on earth.
OK, maybe I'm over exaggerating just a bit, but you get my point. Hopefully (I'm preying to god) that Cronin will resign or get fired before it gets that bad.
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 08:59 PM\'] [ [/quote]
Lin Bolen produced Backtalk as she did Stumpers, and Bobby Van hosted the pilot. That is all I know, and you probably found that while Googling about it.
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Peter Marshall Fan wrote:
The Scrabble Challenge
See above. Yes, the game as it was did need some tweaks but overall was alot better than WinTuition, Friend or Foe, or Cram. The idea of them actually reworking it is laughable. The original producer, Steve Radosh, worked for Marty Pasetta Productions for many years and was a driving force behind one of the more underrated shows in the last 15 years, The Hollywood Game. Mark Cronin, the new producer? Well.....his name matches Rich's, and he produces Cram. If this farce even makes it on air after the changes, it'll probably have Icey holding the tiles while having her \"B\"s on display.
Sorry, but I have a problem with the idea of Scrabble Challenge, in that I don't think the normal Scrabble board game translates well to TV. (We all know, of course, that the Woolery show didn't have much to do with the board game we all know and love.) Further, I think there's a serious problem that we've seen (to a lesser extent) with Lingo, viz. the legal words problem. The producers simply can't deem illegal words that are in a Scrabble dictionary (be it the OSPD2 or TWL98), and some of the obscure 2-letter words could be hit upon by chance by players (like XU or OE) -- or the producers could fail to weed out a bright player who's able to use all their tiles on an obscure (but perfectly legal) word like ANILINE or CINEASTE. In short, a too-bright contestant would make the game exceedingly boring for the average folks at home here in the States (the same problem Countdown would have).
GSN would do better continuing to try to get the rights to air the Woolery Scrabble (no comments please about pecuniary issues -- that's why I used the word \"continuing\"). Doesn't Woolery bring in good ratings amongst the ladies? :-)
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 08:46 PM\'] In short, a too-bright contestant would make the game exceedingly boring for the average folks at home here in the States (the same problem Countdown would have).
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And here we have living proof why GSN not only _doesn't_ cater to us, but they _shouldn't_. Among the complaints of how GSN has no class, here's a gripe about them aiming too high.
They can't even make the entirety of the die-hard community happy, apparently. So why should they try?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 11:10 PM\'] And here we have living proof why GSN not only _doesn't_ cater to us, but they _shouldn't_. Among the complaints of how GSN has no class, here's a gripe about them aiming too high.
They can't even make the entirety of the die-hard community happy, apparently. So why should they try? [/quote]
I like your logic.
In fact, I'm going to write my senator and demand that he allow no bills to be passed, because he won't be able to make all of us die-hard beer and brat people happy. So why should he try?
By having a diverse selection of originals, GSN is able to offer most everybody at least one or two game shows to like. Nobody has to like every show, however GSN aims to please everybody as much as they can, including the stockholders. And they're going to attempt to capitalize on every farce they can.
Kinda like most politicians.
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[quote name=\'whampyl03\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 03:29 PM\']
Boy, billcullen5555/bc1234/bc5 [or whatever he's calling himself this week] is gonna have a FIELD DAY with this at the GSN Boards.
That's suprising. The mods haven't tried to censor and ban him yet?
Actually, this could be bad for actual game shows on GSN. It could re-infource Cronin's idea that the game show pulls in the lower numbers, meaning that more programming could be introduced to GSN that has absolutely noting to do with game shows in an attempt to get back to what was last August. [/quote]
Well I look at it that way, or hopefully, this will be a sign to someone that it's time for a change. Of course, I also hope Cronin won't pull a McMahon and not want to admit he's wrong, and that us internet game show fans \"know nothing about the business.\"
Actually, there's an interesting thought. All it needs is Bob Boden to legally change his middle name to something beginning with \"B,\" so he can call himself Triple B. He'd also need to remind us semi-regularly that \"I am the Game (Show)!\" Then Kevin Belinkoff can write a weekly column on GSN's website under the handle \"Good Ol' KB\" and state, once again, that us internet game show fans know nothing about the business. Oh, and that Graham Elwood is a hoss, by gawd, and that Gene Rayburn should have learned how to work GSN style.
Of course, if Icey appears on Cram accusing Graham of killing Allen Ludden, and then shows a video with her and a male mannequin in intimate contact, then I'll throw my hands up and quit, as I'd have seen everything.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 03:32 PM\'] And if he does, I'm seriously hoping that anyone with even the slightest connection to Sony Entertainment or Liberty Media gets on the phone, and starts working towards a firing of Cronin. [/quote]
As another brief comment, I still find it hard to believe how Cronin, and his support (or lack of) have taken such a 180. Seems like something Orwellian almost, a \"meet the new boss, same as the old boss\" scenario.
J.
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It all started in April 2002. It's been sliding ever since.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Sep 7 2003, 10:16 AM\'] It all started in April 2002. It's been sliding ever since. [/quote]
Yep! I actually had some hopes for the programming dept. to wake the heck up and put SOME more classics on the lineup when they did Feast of Fav's on Thanksgiving. I am having trouble understanding why TTD and TJW, for example, made the Favorites but we haven't seen any of them since 2001. I think Cronin is intentionally trying to piss off the die hard fans and lose ratings. Silly idea, but it sure looks that way folks. And he has the ratings to show it for sure.
Why couldn't GSN do like other networks(mtv,mtv2,discovery has a zillion spinoff chaneels also) and have one channel for the originals and one for the classics. Might solve the problems once and for all!
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Sep 7 2003, 01:03 PM\'] [quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Sep 7 2003, 10:16 AM\'] It all started in April 2002. It's been sliding ever since. [/quote]
Yep! I actually had some hopes for the programming dept. to wake the heck up and put SOME more classics on the lineup when they did Feast of Fav's on Thanksgiving. I am having trouble understanding why TTD and TJW, for example, made the Favorites but we haven't seen any of them since 2001. I think Cronin is intentionally trying to piss off the die hard fans and lose ratings. Silly idea, but it sure looks that way folks. And he has the ratings to show it for sure.
Why couldn't GSN do like other networks(mtv,mtv2,discovery has a zillion spinoff chaneels also) and have one channel for the originals and one for the classics. Might solve the problems once and for all! [/quote]
Simple: GSN ain't got the dough to do it.
IMO, this is the time there should be a MAJOR shakeup of what's on. The failing originals [FOF, WT] should be cut, the successful originals should get more eps, and the morning hours could be used to make the diehards happy. TTTT90 and Trivia Trap in 9:30 were a start, now let's replace the morning vertivision with some rare stuff like Play the Percentages, TTTT80, and Break the Bank. I think something like that would make a lot of people happy.
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I can say that ours was one household that was always changing the channel. GSN is just not worth the $8.04 extra we pay to get it -- the money could be used in so many other ways -- and so now we've dropped it. That picture of Mary Carey from Yahoo certainly does not make me regret dropping GSN.
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Sep 7 2003, 12:03 PM\'] [quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Sep 7 2003, 10:16 AM\'] It all started in April 2002. It's been sliding ever since. [/quote]
Yep! I actually had some hopes for the programming dept. to wake the heck up and put SOME more classics on the lineup when they did Feast of Fav's on Thanksgiving. I am having trouble understanding why TTD and TJW, for example, made the Favorites but we haven't seen any of them since 2001. I think Cronin is intentionally trying to piss off the die hard fans and lose ratings. Silly idea, but it sure looks that way folks. And he has the ratings to show it for sure.
Why couldn't GSN do like other networks(mtv,mtv2,discovery has a zillion spinoff chaneels also) and have one channel for the originals and one for the classics. Might solve the problems once and for all! [/quote]
Like I said, this would make a great Orwell-style book. \"Game Show Farm,\" anyone? (\"All games are created equal...but some games, particularly originals, are more equal than others\" ;-))
With regards to the TJW/TTD thing, yeah, again there's my McMahon/WWE comparison: that Cronin will only get over what he wants to get over on the channel (in this case, TJW can be the Chris Benoit to the Katie Vick angle that is Cram), and you will like it or else. I'm surprised we haven't seen an anti-internet backlash by now, aka Extreme Gong Incident II (I'm sure many old-timers get that reference).
This might be from way left field, but someone mentioned Kevin Belinkoff. I will not pry any further as to what exactly happened, as per the comments of another poster, but I do recall him being very nasty to the old ATGS. You don't think his ego is such that he'd work to spite classic GS fans as a result? Again I said this was a silly theory, I'm not really always this paranoid!
Unfortunately lots of entertainment is like what I described nowadays, not just wrestling and GSN. Producers and such are in it for themselves, and the heart and soul of things are dying out, sadly, if not dead already. Television we already discussed to death, music has Britina Loguilyonce, and so on and so on. It's too easy for me to get all angsty when it seems that things I once enjoyed are a dying breed. I wish I didn't have to.
J.
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I think Cronin is intentionally trying to piss off the die hard fans and lose ratings. Silly idea, but it sure looks that way folks. And he has the ratings to show it for sure.
Well...I wouldn't go that far. From what I've heard they've looked at the past ratings and determined that *some* shows just don't get the ratings. My argument is that many of those shows haven't aired regularly on GSN in a couple of years. Maybe they didn't get good enough ratings then, but maybe things would be different now - especially since two of those shows were voted for so heavily in the Feast of Favorites.
Why couldn't GSN do like other networks(mtv,mtv2,discovery has a zillion spinoff chaneels also) and have one channel for the originals and one for the classics. Might solve the problems once and for all!
I guess that's what we're all hoping for. I still like to remember what \"thericker\" said on the GSN boards about that topic --- don't rule it out! I guess the only question is the timeline for such a thing to occur...
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IMO, this is the time there should be a MAJOR shakeup of what's on. The failing originals [FOF, WT] should be cut, the successful originals should get more eps, and the morning hours could be used to make the diehards happy. TTTT90 and Trivia Trap in 9:30 were a start, now let's replace the morning vertivision with some rare stuff like Play the Percentages, TTTT80, and Break the Bank. I think something like that would make a lot of people happy.
It would certainly make me happy! I agree that we should have a major shakeup - things have gotten too predictable and boring. It's not exciting right now. I've seen similar comments made on both GSN boards and here, but (I know) GSN \"doesn't program for us\".
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Sep 7 2003, 01:27 AM\'][quote name=\'whampyl03\' date=\'Sep 6 2003, 03:29 PM\']
Boy, billcullen5555/bc1234/bc5 [or whatever he's calling himself this week] is gonna have a FIELD DAY with this at the GSN Boards.
>Well I look at it that way, or hopefully, this will be a sign to someone that >it's time for a change. Of course, I also hope Cronin won't pull a McMahon >and not want to admit he's wrong, and that us internet game show >fans \"know nothing about the business.\"
>Actually, there's an interesting thought. All it needs is Bob Boden to l>egally change his middle name to something beginning with \"B,\" so he >can call himself Triple B. He'd also need to remind us semi-regularly >that \"I am the Game (Show)!\" Then Kevin Belinkoff can write a weekly >column on GSN's website under the handle \"Good Ol' KB\" and state, once >again, that us internet game show fans know nothing about the >business. Oh, and that Graham Elwood is a hoss, by gawd, and that >Gene Rayburn should have learned how to work GSN style.
Of course, if Icey appears on Cram accusing Graham of killing Allen Ludden, and then shows a video with her and a male mannequin in intimate contact, then I'll throw my hands up and quit, as I'd have seen everything.[/QUOTE]
1.) We also need Mrs. Boden to come out and tell Bob she just acquired 51% of GSN. Then, a masked game show host breaks into the family estate and tells Bob he knows how to negotiate a contract and winks into the camera.
2.) Two new judges are assigned to GSN Originals: Stone Cold Steve Austin and Eric Bischoff. Boden tells them to come to an agreement on a new fall schedule.
3.) One show gets on: a revival of \"Lover's Lounge\" with hosts Moolah and Mae Young
4.) Stephanie Boden, the long lost daughter, assumes Icy's job on Cram.
5.) Whammy gets a new look as the whammy starts setting fires and pushing people into dumpsters.
6.) The new season of Friend or Foe involves people attached to jumper cables instead of hands in truth boxes.
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Sep 7 2003, 11:11 AM\'] Like I said, this would make a great Orwell-style book. \"Game Show Farm,\" anyone? (\"All games are created equal...but some games, particularly originals, are more equal than others\" ;-)) [/quote]
Wrong book, I think. Try \"Channel 1984\":
\"It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen, because Game Show Network had added an extra hour to its programming schedule for two extra showings of 'National Lampoon's Funny Money.'\"
\"But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was all right. He had won the victory over the returning champion. He loved Rich Cronin.\"
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Sep 7 2003, 12:29 PM\'] The failing originals [FOF, WT] should be cut, the successful originals should get more eps, and the morning hours could be used to make the diehards happy. [/quote]
I apologize to the wrestling fanatics to bring the conversation back to what we were discussing (although back to reality might be a step in the right direction for most of you).
To cut Friend or Foe and WinTuition would be to admit that they were wrong. They had to introduce enough originals to fill up half the schedule, and good or bad the originals had to stay on until they could be replaced. Apparently, GSN doesn't currently have anything ready, so they can't cut the failing ones. I stated at our old stomping grounds (unfortunately I can't find it in Groupsgle) that GSN needed its first crop of originals to be successful or the \"half-originals\" goal would not work.
In this era of television, if you don't succeed immediately, you're toast. Cronin can't admit that some of his originals aren't up to scratch because then he's lost. It's better to replace them with something new and cut the non-preforming ones without having to say that the shows didn't work out.