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Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: curtking on March 16, 2006, 01:21:22 PM
Ricki Lake is hosting. (Sorry, but I really can't get behind this selection.  Of course, I'll give her a chance, but I'm not expecting too much.)

Games to be played:
"The Price Is Right"
"Let's Make a Deal"
"Match Game"
"Card Sharks"
"Press Your Luck"
"Beat the Clock"
"Family Feud"

Here's the article... (http://\"http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117939825?cs=1&s=h&p=0\")

Curt
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Tony on March 16, 2006, 01:27:23 PM
[quote name=\'curtking\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:21 PM\']Games to be played:

"Let's Make a Deal"
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This strikes me as a little odd, since FremantleMedia doesn't own the rights to LMAD.  Perhaps they persuaded Monty Hall to license it to them?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: FOXSportsFan on March 16, 2006, 01:32:41 PM
I guess they didn't want to fly me out to L.A. to host, ha...ha...not funny.

Well, Fremantle owns many of the the international licenses to LMAD, right?  If so, it's all kosher.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Pyramid80 on March 16, 2006, 01:55:23 PM
I can honestly say I am looking forward to this.  I am not a huge fan of Ricki Lake, but she did have her own talk show which ran for several successful seasons.  That should be an indication that she does have hosting potential.  This looks to be a fun show, and glad that they thought of Betty White!
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: tvrandywest on March 16, 2006, 02:03:30 PM
Don't jump to conclusions. The 6 revivals are being crafted with loving care by people with great respect for the classic game shows.

Randy
tvrandywest.com
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 16, 2006, 02:08:45 PM
[quote name=\'curtking\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 10:21 AM\']Ricki Lake is hosting.
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I'm still holding out hope that by "hosting" they mean "presiding over things and then pitching it to a real host when it's time to actually play the game."

Unfortunately, the article doesn't seen to bear that out. Yeesh. I'll still watch and hope I'm wrong, but the potential for embarrassing suckage is there.
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Games to be played:
"The Price Is Right"
"Let's Make a Deal"
"Match Game"
"Card Sharks"
"Press Your Luck"
"Beat the Clock"
"Family Feud"
Okay, everybody, all together now..."which of these things is not like the other..."

I knew about six of these. I was at the time assuming that the seventh would be Password, because it REALLY made sense in context. Friggin' LMAD? Is Rikki Lake REALLY gonna gesture grandly over to a trading floor of six celebrities all dressed up as produce?

I have mixed feelings. Some of it looks like a lot of fun, but some of it (especially with Lake at the helm) looks like it's being played for camp parody.

/they're all gonna laugh at you
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: tvwxman on March 16, 2006, 02:11:41 PM
[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 02:03 PM\']Don't jump to conclusions. The 6 revivals are being crafted with loving care by people with great respect for the classic game shows. Taping on those start March 23rd at CBS. More to come.

Randy
tvrandywest.com
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I actually think she'll do well.  To me, she 'gets' audience related television....and while i think some of those shows are tough to host, she's not some low-rent comic who willl try to inject him/herself into every little bit of the show....

I'm a little hesitiant to the celeb players though....I interviewed Leslie Nielsen last year, and he didn't seem all there these days....

and Cripes. Lance bass? geez.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: weaklink75 on March 16, 2006, 02:13:20 PM
It's an interesting selection of shows ....

Probably the show lineup is going to be:

First Round:
TPIR (since you start with 6, I assume it's going to be half-hour show rules)

LMAD (Only show in the group that really could work with 5 people-and they'd better make them wear costumes!)

BTC (This one can be done comfortably with 4, I do wonder how this one will be formatted tho)

PYL (only one that's designed for three)

Semi-finals:
Match Game (70's PM format maybe? even Schafer format would be OK, but not Berger format)

Card Sharks (MUST be Perry or Eubanks format-I'd think we'd all revolt if it was the 00's version)

Final:

Family Feud (probably with the finalists real familes)



I'm not going to pre-judge Ricki Lake until I see the show....We thought Howie Mandel was an odd choice for DoND, and he turned out OK..
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: mmb5 on March 16, 2006, 02:20:04 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 02:08 PM\']Okay, everybody, all together now..."which of these things is not like the other..."

I knew about six of these. I was at the time assuming that the seventh would be Password, because it REALLY made sense in context. Friggin' LMAD? Is Rikki Lake REALLY gonna gesture grandly over to a trading floor of six celebrities all dressed up as produce?

I have mixed feelings. Some of it looks like a lot of fun, but some of it (especially with Lake at the helm) looks like it's being played for camp parody.

/they're all gonna laugh at you
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Password couldn't fit the four-or-five contestant for one winner they would have needed.  The way the British version went was:

Quarterfinals (winner advances, losers go on to next game except for the last one):
TPIR-6 players
Take Your Pick-5 players (either LMAD or BTC will probably go here)
Golden Shot-4 players (either LMAD or BTC will probably go here)
Sale of the Century-3 players (PYL will probably go here)

Semifinals (winner advances, losers go home):
Card Sharks-2 players
Bullseye-2 players (MG will probably go here)

Finals:
Family Feud-2 players with their families


My early money would be on Kathy Najimy as your winner.


--Mike
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 16, 2006, 02:39:34 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 11:20 AM\']Password couldn't fit the four-or-five contestant for one winner they would have needed.  The way the British version went was:
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Ah, okay. The way I understood it, the format was that the celebrity who did the poorest was eliminated on every show. So I was figuring for Password and 4 contestant left, you'd play two games: the winners of the first game were through to the next round, then swap partners and play again, and the winners of THAT game went through as well. So the one person who lost both games would be done.

I like this format better, though.

Still. Friggin' DEAL?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: TalkingHeadsFan on March 16, 2006, 02:39:47 PM
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I'm still holding out hope that by "hosting" they mean "presiding over things and then pitching it to a real host when it's time to actually play the game."

This makes an incredible amount of success, getting respective hosts for each show is possible:

Bob Barker - PiR
Monty Hall - LMaD
Michael Burger - MG
Bob Eubanks - Card Sharks
Todd Newton - PYL
Monty Hall or Gary Kroeger - Beat The Clock
Richard Karn, or dare I say bring back Dawson - Family Feud

Sure, easier said than done, but it's nice to dream. I'm just curious as to why Barker isn't making a stink about Lake hosting PiR, even if it is for this little show.

Douglas
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 16, 2006, 02:42:36 PM
[quote name=\'TalkingHeadsFan\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 11:39 AM\']Sure, easier said than done, but it's nice to dream. I'm just curious as to why Barker isn't making a stink about Lake hosting PiR, even if it is for this little show.
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Prolly because they said "hey, YOU wanna do it?" and he shut up real quick. Can you see Barker on a stage where he'd have to share the spotlight with known personalities instead of average Joes? Me neither.

As for the mass majority of your potential slate of hosts: wow.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 16, 2006, 02:48:07 PM
I'd love it if Ricki could get John Waters to be an MG panelist.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: tvwxman on March 16, 2006, 03:18:58 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 02:42 PM\']
As for the mass majority of your potential slate of hosts: wow.
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If you've seen any of the brit version, they spend a few minutes at the start of each show with a 'biography' of that nights show, with interviews from celebrites, and usually the host....

Regarding PYL as a selection, I can't help but think that maybe some of this was already in the works before Tomarken's plane crash? I wonder if there's any interview video already in the can?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 16, 2006, 03:32:49 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 03:08 PM\']I have mixed feelings. Some of it looks like a lot of fun, but some of it (especially with Lake at the helm) looks like it's being played for camp parody.[/quote]
The British version (which mmb5 was so kind to show me) was lots of fun with no parody anywhere in sight.  Oh, sure, they poked fun (after all, The Golden Shot featured live-in-studio blindfolded crossbow shooting) but they never made fun.  You can actually see the celebrities begin by thinking it's going to be a big goof, then their competitive instincts kick in and it suddenly becomes serious to them.  Basically, think of celebrity versions of Jeopardy, Wheel or some other standard.  It's played for more laughs than usual, but still done with respect.  Also, as Randy said, this is being put together by fans.  Have faith!

One problem is, the British version benefits from having professional funny guys as hosts, so as good as Ricki might be, there's a void there.  In retrospect, imagine how good Howie could have been at something like this.

Password would seem awkward for several reasons.  It's a slow game by modern standards, the players might very well suck at it, and the competitors would be dependent on each other for scoring.

[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 03:08 PM\']The way I understood it, the format was that the celebrity who did the poorest was eliminated on every show.[/quote]
I thought so too, but that was never the format, and I think we just had the typical reality-show mentality stuck in our heads.  For the first four games, it's the winners who advance.   No one's eliminated until week four, when the two losers on Press Your Luck are out.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: mmb5 on March 16, 2006, 03:54:25 PM
[quote name=\'TalkingHeadsFan\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 02:39 PM\']Michael Burger - MG
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They didn't ask.


--Mike (I love causing confusion)
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 16, 2006, 03:54:38 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 12:32 PM\']It's played for more laughs than usual, but still done with respect.  Also, as Randy said, this is being put together by fans.  Have faith!
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I do. The concern I have is when I read stuff like "Rikki Lake will dress in period garb." Although I suppose that would apply most to Beat The Clock, Deal, and Match Game, which are supposed to be funny anyhow.

But make no mistake, I'm all over this as soon as the Tivo sees it. Maybe sooner.
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I thought so too, but that was never the format, and I think we just had the typical reality-show mentality stuck in our heads.  For the first four games, it's the winners who advance.   No one's eliminated until week four, when the two losers on Press Your Luck are out.
Yeah, I'm glad to be wrong about that, this format sounds far more interesting.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: opimus on March 16, 2006, 04:09:55 PM
Some of you might consider the next statment slightly nutty. How much did CBS have to pay Barker not to host  the TPIR segment of GS marathon. Considering he is an Executive Producer on the TPIR woundn't he have some say on who hosts? Wouldn't Bob's ego prevent anyone else from hosting the TPIR in prime time?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: MSTieScott on March 16, 2006, 04:15:21 PM
I got to see a tiny bit of what they're planning for a couple of the shows, and I was impressed by how much it felt like the classic thing. Hearing that Betty White will be on the Match Game panel is also a good sign. Glad I'll be able to see the tapings!

--
Scott Robinson
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 16, 2006, 04:17:31 PM
[quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:09 PM\']Some of you might consider the next statment slightly nutty. How much did CBS have to pay Barker not to host  the TPIR segment of GS marathon. Considering he is an Executive Producer on the TPIR woundn't he have some say on who hosts? Wouldn't Bob's ego prevent anyone else from hosting the TPIR in prime time?
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Exactly correct on that first count. 'Cept not slightly. And "nutty" implies "playfully eccentric", whereas your notion is more representative of "idiotic."
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 16, 2006, 04:19:36 PM
[quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 05:09 PM\']Some of you might consider the next statment slightly nutty. How much did CBS have to pay Barker not to host  the TPIR segment of GS marathon. [/quote]
It seems unlikely that money changed hands, but I imagine everybody involved tread very carefully around the egos in play.  Besides, who's to say that CBS didn't want him to be involved?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: FeudDude on March 16, 2006, 04:24:53 PM
[quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 04:09 PM\']Some of you might consider the next statment slightly nutty. How much did CBS have to pay Barker not to host  the TPIR segment of GS marathon. Considering he is an Executive Producer on the TPIR woundn't he have some say on who hosts? Wouldn't Bob's ego prevent anyone else from hosting the TPIR in prime time?
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I don't see why they would stop Barker from hosting it if he really wanted to.  After all, in the eyes of many people (both casual views and fanb01z), he is TPiR.  

All I have to say about Ricki Lake as host is "we'll see".  Remember that many of us were scratching our heads over Howie Mandel being selected as host of DoND, and now he's almost unanimously praised around these parts.  And it sounds like the producers are striving to be faithful to the classic shows.  I'm cautiously optimistic about this project.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: tvwxman on March 16, 2006, 04:26:33 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 04:19 PM\'][quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 05:09 PM\']Some of you might consider the next statment slightly nutty. How much did CBS have to pay Barker not to host  the TPIR segment of GS marathon. [/quote]
It seems unlikely that money changed hands, but I imagine everybody involved tread very carefully around the egos in play.  Besides, who's to say that CBS didn't want him to be involved?
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Still though, the UK vers did TPIR on the first ep, with one clear cut diff from the US version :

The UK didn't have a version of PIR on earlier in the day, with a different audience, a different looking set, and a host other than Bob...

To the untrained eye (the audience), i smell a little bit of confusion. 'Where's my Bob Barker? And who is this girl? Did bob die?'....
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Post by: MrGameShow on March 16, 2006, 05:10:34 PM
I think everyone has to take into consideration that the Marathon has to have a UNIVERSAL HOST - not getting the hosts that are still around to make an appearance.. they weren't going to ask Bob to take on hosting one show, then go "And now, here's Ricki Lake to host everything else!"

As for how authentic these shows are, I can personally vouch for PYL, because I was involved in it's development. Keep in mind that every step is being taken to stay true to the feel of the original shows, but various liberties had to be taken to update to today's standards.

Give Ricki a chance - remember that she's had to learn 7 shows in a short time, taping them 4 days apart each. She's a people person, having been a talk show host and all. She's not going to be Bob or Monty or Peter.. she's going to be herself.

I'm somewhat amazed that the people on here are already trash-talking the shows that haven't even been MADE yet - can't you be thankful that CBS is taking the time and money to recreate all of these shows for the fans?

I can tell you this much - if you want these shows to stick around, you had damn well better flood CBS with love letters thanking them for this opportunity; otherwise they'll turn around and say "guess that was a waste of time.. how about we pay for a few more seasons of CSI?"
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Post by: clemon79 on March 16, 2006, 05:43:47 PM
[quote name=\'MrGameShow\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 02:10 PM\']I'm somewhat amazed that the people on here are already trash-talking the shows that haven't even been MADE yet - can't you be thankful that CBS is taking the time and money to recreate all of these shows for the fans?
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This really shouldn't surprise you in the least, if you've been reading here any length of time at all. :)
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I can tell you this much - if you want these shows to stick around, you had damn well better flood CBS with love letters thanking them for this opportunity;
Now I have a problem. Because we saw how well this worked when it came to hiring a new TPiR announcer.
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Post by: Dbacksfan12 on March 16, 2006, 06:21:46 PM
Isn't it a fact (and if its not, I apologize) that The $25,000 Pyramid returned for a reprieve thanks to viewer mail?

We all have our favorites, and on this board, many people enjoy Randy.  However, outside our little group, other people's have their favorites.  How do you know that Rich Fields didn't get a ton of mail to CBS requesting him to be the announcer?

Moreso, I think there's a difference between hiring a person, and deciding whether or not a show should remain on the air.  Let's say that somone wanted to revive Pyramid in primetime...would people be objecting just because they choose someone outside the realm of game shows to host?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 16, 2006, 06:41:55 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 03:21 PM\']How do you know that Rich Fields didn't get a ton of mail to CBS requesting him to be the announcer?
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Because we were told so. By Randy, as I recall.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: JasonA1 on March 16, 2006, 09:43:27 PM
Not to dilute the accomplishment, but didn't Randy win a poll on CBS' website with the announcer question? Maybe that and the mail thing were two separate issues, but...

-Jason
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Post by: ITSBRY on March 16, 2006, 10:54:51 PM
I have to admit that when I first heard about this, I wasn't thrilled about Rikki but I'm gonna give her a chance. She is likeable...let's just hope she can lead a game. I have the toughest time seeing her doing LMAD and Price. Todd so deserves this gig. It would be perfect for him (that's gonna start a war, I bet!).

It will be REALLY interesting in any regard.

I'm actually quite shocked that a project like this got green lighted. This is probably the coolest thing to happen in the genre (at least for us nerds) in over a decade and as someone working on this project pointed out...even if one of the shows is successful, it could lead to a classic style revival.

My only wish is that Pyramid was in the mix. I know it's probably a rights thing, but my god...the only thing that could make this better would be to see Pyramid played the right way!

Anywho...no matter how you look at this, it's super cool and very very ambitious. I know that the folks involved will do everything in their power to make it fan friendly and I wish them a huge success with it.

Bryan
itsbry@juno.com
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Post by: Don Howard on March 16, 2006, 11:14:14 PM
Remember! It could've been Rosie O'Donnell, Julie Chen, Charlene Tilton or someone of that quagmire.
Let's give the chick a chance. And if she's horrible, we can look forward to the 500-post thread about how awful she is.
Half of those posts might even be on-topic.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: wheelloon on March 17, 2006, 12:43:25 AM
[quote name=\'curtking\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 02:21 PM\']Ricki Lake is hosting. (Sorry, but I really can't get behind this selection.  Of course, I'll give her a chance, but I'm not expecting too much.)

Games to be played:
"The Price Is Right"
"Let's Make a Deal"
"Match Game"
"Card Sharks"
"Press Your Luck"
"Beat the Clock"
"Family Feud"
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Hmm, of the 7 I thought of they were gonna do, 5 ended up making the list (and against intial reaction, PYL was one of them...hehehe). ;) I thought LMAD and BTC would be replaced by Pyramid and Password, but BTC is just as good of a choice as any of the others shows in the Fremantle library.

LMAD is a shocker, kind of a pleasant one though. I just hope they don't make Leslie Nielsen dress up as a banana...

For the celebrities, Lance Bass should've been a given. He was a semi-regular on H2, and was on WWTBAM and Pyramid IIRC. I'm happy Betty will be there, and Paige Davis will be interesting to watch.

Ricki might end up doing okay on the show. I'm not expecting her to be the NEXT Betty White of game shows, but I think she'll be able to moderate the games well and keep the celebrities in line if they get a little on the wild side...
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Post by: mandelweb on March 17, 2006, 03:46:51 AM
Ahh...now that this is all out in the public...gonna throw my few cents in...

Thanks to my great bosses at Fox Reality, I was allowed to do a little consulting work on the side for the "Press Your Luck" episode of the show.  Based on the meetings and discussions I've had with the production team, this looks like it could be quite good.

There is a very conscious effort at the show to keep things authentic.  They are definitely treating these shows with a lot of respect.  I was quite amazed at the questions I was being asked in an effort to keep things true to the classic versions of these shows.

If things go as planned, they are going do things with "Press Your Luck" that I wished we could have done on "Whammy!" but weren't able to do because of certain limitations back then.

I know a number of the producers and staffers on the show and they are game show fans and game show veterans.  They have a genuine love for the genre.  The show is in good hands...

As others have said, it IS a very ambitious project.  From what I know, you're not going to see a 100% carbon copy of the classics, but everything is being done with their parameters to make them pretty damn close to 100%.  

And just think about this...You're seeing SEVEN classic game show titles played on newtork primetime television.  Never in my mind would I think something like that would happen...AND on top of that...these titles are being done in a RETRO style.

I'm VERY excited to see how it all turns out!

- Mandel
http://mandelweb.com (http://\"http://mandelweb.com\")
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Craig Karlberg on March 17, 2006, 04:10:32 AM
The list of game titles sure looks intresting.  LMAD was a pleasaunt surprise.  So was BTC.  The others I pretty much expected.

I'll give Riki Lake a shot.  As far as I'm concerned, she's the ? for this type of show.  If she does well, great.  But, if she doesn't, well, at least we know she tried to do her best.

The format is very intriguing.  I'm anxious as to how they'll pull of LMAD with 5 celebs or MG for 4.  Either way, it looks like a winner to me.

As for the celebrities, I'm not sure if Lance Bass is good enough to appear on there.  However, reading that Betty White as an MG panelist should counter any negative thoughts in that regard.  Can't wait to let the games begin(GS Marathon, that is)!
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: cmjb13 on March 17, 2006, 06:47:44 AM
Would it be safe to assume that the Feud & Card Sharks sets will be recreations of the CBS versions?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: davemackey on March 17, 2006, 06:51:05 AM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Mar 17 2006, 06:47 AM\']Would it be safe to assume that the Feud & Card Sharks sets will be recreations of the CBS versions?
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Post by: Shredder on March 17, 2006, 06:51:23 AM
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I'm a little hesitiant to the celeb players though....I interviewed Leslie Nielsen last year, and he didn't seem all there these days....
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Aww, that's sad to hear.  When I wrote him in for an autograph ten years a go, he was not only nice enough to send a personalized sig back, but also answered one of my questions about finding Police Squad videos.  Seems like a very nice  guy and I'd hate to think he may be suffering from old age this soon..

How bad was he?  Listenable, or forgetting every sentance bad?  If it was listenable, I wouldn't mind doing an interview with him for my site..
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Post by: DrBear on March 17, 2006, 07:13:45 AM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this quote from the Variety story:
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Sounds like it could be serious. I hadn't been too excited about this until reading the article, but now it sounds like a must-tape.

(must admit, I liked Ricki Lake better when she was heavier)
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Post by: Ian Wallis on March 17, 2006, 09:26:14 AM
Count me among the people who are excited about this and are really looking forward to it.

Let's hope it gets decent ratings and maybe CBS will try something like this again, either on a permanent (i.e. regular contestants) or once-in-a-while type basis.


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Isn't it a fact (and if its not, I apologize) that The $25,000 Pyramid returned for a reprieve thanks to viewer mail?

I wonder how much it was because of viewer mail, and how much was because its replacement (Blackout) tanked worse than anybody probably thought.
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Post by: Pyramid80 on March 17, 2006, 09:57:00 AM
I know this is probably a long shot, but I wonder if the original music will be used?
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Post by: Clay Zambo on March 17, 2006, 10:55:57 AM
[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Mar 17 2006, 09:57 AM\']I know this is probably a long shot, but I wonder if the original music will be used?
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No, Long Shots are from Whew!.  They're not playing that one.  :)

Seriously, though, I'm checking a source for accurate information, but I'd wager "All of it higher!" that they will.  Last I heard was they were striving for complete accuracy.
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Post by: ITSBRY on March 17, 2006, 10:57:40 AM
[quote name=\'mandelweb\' date=\'Mar 17 2006, 03:46 AM\']Ahh...now that this is all out in the public...gonna throw my few cents in...

Thanks to my great bosses at Fox Reality, I was allowed to do a little consulting work on the side for the "Press Your Luck" episode of the show.  Based on the meetings and discussions I've had with the production team, this looks like it could be quite good.

I was quite amazed at the questions I was being asked in an effort to keep things true to the classic versions of these shows.

- Mandel
http://mandelweb.com (http://\"http://mandelweb.com\")
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...you have the coolest damn job ON THE PLANET!!! ;)

Bryan
itsbry@juno.com
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Post by: Pyramid80 on March 17, 2006, 11:03:42 AM
[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Mar 17 2006, 09:57 AM\'][quote name=\'mandelweb\' date=\'Mar 17 2006, 03:46 AM\']Ahh...now that this is all out in the public...gonna throw my few cents in...

Thanks to my great bosses at Fox Reality, I was allowed to do a little consulting work on the side for the "Press Your Luck" episode of the show.  Based on the meetings and discussions I've had with the production team, this looks like it could be quite good.

I was quite amazed at the questions I was being asked in an effort to keep things true to the classic versions of these shows.

- Mandel
http://mandelweb.com (http://\"http://mandelweb.com\")
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...you have the coolest damn job ON THE PLANET!!! ;)

Bryan
itsbry@juno.com
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No kidding!
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Don Howard on March 17, 2006, 11:47:12 AM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Mar 17 2006, 09:26 AM\']Count me among the people who are excited about this and are really looking forward to it.
Let's hope it gets decent ratings and maybe CBS will try something like this again, either on a permanent (i.e. regular contestants) or once-in-a-while type basis.
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Isn't it a fact (and if its not, I apologize) that The $25,000 Pyramid returned for a reprieve thanks to viewer mail?
I wonder how much it was because of viewer mail, and how much was because its replacement (Blackout) tanked worse than anybody probably thought.
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I'm convinced it was a stop gap until Family Feud was ready. The set was still around for The $100,000 Pyramid, still taping at Television City, and it was an established show so I suspect CBS figured that at the very least it would stop the ratings hemorrhaging at 10am ET created by Blackout.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Argo on March 19, 2006, 08:41:01 AM
Just wondering if they would use the original themes to the shows they remake? If thats the case, hopefully they use the on air version of match game theme rather than the actual release. Everytime GSN plays the unedited match game theme during the breaks, its just sounds soo weird.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 19, 2006, 09:05:28 AM
I don't think the LMAD band is still together.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Clay Zambo on March 19, 2006, 02:51:51 PM
[quote name=\'Argo\' date=\'Mar 19 2006, 08:41 AM\']Just wondering if they would use the original themes to the shows they remake?
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I have it on good authority that the themes will be authentic.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: entguy1 on March 20, 2006, 09:39:15 AM
A Freemantle exec was on WGN radio in Chicago last night (mostly to plug "American Inventor"). He did mention the GS Marathon, and yes -- FF will be the final night, with the finalists' families.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 20, 2006, 10:03:47 AM
[quote name=\'entguy1\' date=\'Mar 20 2006, 09:39 AM\']A Freemantle exec was on WGN radio in Chicago last night (mostly to plug "American Inventor"). He did mention the GS Marathon, and yes -- FF will be the final night, with the finalists' families.[/quote]
I have the surreal hope that if Adrienne Curry makes it to the finals, she brings  Christopher Knight who, in turn, brings along more Bradys.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: zachhoran on March 22, 2006, 08:33:39 AM
In the wake of DOND's surprise success, I would have expected CBS(this project is being done for CBS, correct?) to do more primetime TPIRs for this Spring rather than this GS marathon. Wonder if Bob will have anything to say about someone other than him hosting TPIR on CBS? I think they'd have been better off bringing on a different host for each show(i.e. a TPIR Live host or Randy West for TPIR, Todd Newton for PYL, maybe Eubanks for CS, Michael Burger possibly for MG, etc.), but we'll see how it doesn't do in the ratings. If there was ever a time for ABC to give Regis another primetime stint, this would be it, but we'll see if they don't.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 22, 2006, 08:50:19 AM
My personal thought is that Ricki Lake is not a serious contender to replace Bob Barker as permanent host of TPIR, so what's the harm in letting her host a one-shot special?  This is more of a lark for her, I don't think she actually wants to be a game show host full time.  Now put in a Todd Newton or Bob Goen, that would be a different story.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: LA the DJ on March 22, 2006, 03:08:19 PM
I am curious to see is FF and TPiR, the two shows on the air, will be retrofied, or if they'll just use the current sets for those. It sure would be fun to see the old Feud set one last time.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: WhammyPower on March 22, 2006, 03:33:15 PM
[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 02:08 PM\']I am curious to see is FF and TPiR, the two shows on the air, will be retrofied, or if they'll just use the current sets for those. It sure would be fun to see the old Feud set one last time.
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Post by: sshuffield70 on March 22, 2006, 05:10:06 PM
[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 02:08 PM\']I am curious to see is FF and TPiR, the two shows on the air, will be retrofied, or if they'll just use the current sets for those. It sure would be fun to see the old Feud set one last time.
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The last we heard about that set was over three ago for Old Navy's "Family Fleece" ad.  Following taping, it was reported that set was sent to the dumpster.  So, I'm not sure these will be original pieces, but new ones to recreate the original set.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 22, 2006, 05:17:17 PM
I'm guessing everybody here wants the recreated sets to all be from the second or later versions of the shows, right? (I count PYL as the second version of "Second Chance.")
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 22, 2006, 05:21:42 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 02:17 PM\']I guessing everybody here wants the recreated sets to all be from the second or later versions of the shows, right? (I count PYL as the second version of "Second Chance.")
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No. The Combs Feud set sucks. ("Sucks" is a harsh word. It was vastly inferior to the Dawson set, how's that?)

And I'd sure rather see the Perry set for Card Sharks over the Eubanks one.

Seeing an overly-stylized TPiR set would be entertaining just to see the Golden-Road CBG's have a coronary. :)

All of this, of course, assumes that I really do care all that much, which I really don't, provided that it looks good and the gameplay is fun.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: chris319 on March 22, 2006, 05:44:56 PM
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The Combs Feud set sucks. ("Sucks" is a harsh word. It was vastly inferior to the Dawson set, how's that?)
Save the word "sucks" for the current set.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: tvwxman on March 22, 2006, 06:46:51 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 05:21 PM\']And I'd sure rather see the Perry set for Card Sharks over the Eubanks one.
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According to Mandels' website...CS is recreating some of Perry's set, and MG will have the 70s stucco....

But keep in mind that the ENTIRE set won't be recreated here... Someone needs to put up screenshots of the Brit version...i'd bet dollars to donuts that the UK show will act as a template for what's done here...a Massive turntable in the middle of the stage, with scaled down versions of the games played on it...It's hard to describe , but the end result is : it looks good and faithful while still being modern and new.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 22, 2006, 06:58:53 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 03:46 PM\']But keep in mind that the ENTIRE set won't be recreated here... Someone needs to put up screenshots of the Brit version...i'd bet dollars to donuts that the UK show will act as a template for what's done here...a Massive turntable in the middle of the stage, with scaled down versions of the games played on it...It's hard to describe , but the end result is : it looks good and faithful while still being modern and new.
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Yeah, and I'm totally fine with that too. My comment was merely to respond to Jimmy's blanket assumption that everyone likes the revival sets better than the originals.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Brandon Brooks on March 22, 2006, 07:44:20 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM\']
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The Combs Feud set sucks. ("Sucks" is a harsh word. It was vastly inferior to the Dawson set, how's that?)
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Hallelujah!

Brandon Brooks
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: TimK2003 on March 22, 2006, 09:06:09 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 02:08 PM\']"The Price Is Right"
"Let's Make a Deal"
"Match Game"
"Card Sharks"
"Press Your Luck"
"Beat the Clock"
"Family Feud"
Okay, everybody, all together now..."which of these things is not like the other..."

I knew about six of these. I was at the time assuming that the seventh would be Password, because it REALLY made sense in context. Friggin' LMAD?
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I agree with the "WTF!?!?" sentiments regarding LMAD.  Not only is LMAD the only show of the bunch that has no Fremantle/G-T ties (at least domestically), but LMAD is also the only game show of the bunch that never had any of it's incarnations air on CBS!

Leaving out Password is a major disappointment, and I think would've worked a helluva lot better with an All-Star cast (especially with Betty White on Board) than LMAD.  Heck, Celebrity Whew! would've been a better pick than LMAD!
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: TimK2003 on March 22, 2006, 09:37:05 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Mar 17 2006, 09:26 AM\']I wonder how much it was because of viewer mail, and how much was because its replacement (Blackout) tanked worse than anybody probably thought.
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Per Uncle Jay Wolpert, Blackout never had the chance to go beyond 13 weeks, regardless of the ratings.  Feud was supposed to be ready to go at the end of the run of Blackout in April of '88, but for whatever reason(s), Feud needed more time before it's premiere.

And since Pyramid was still taping $100K syndies at CBS, the set was there and readily available, Voila!, 13 more weeks of Pyramid were whipped up.  And Dick Clark, not to look like a last minute replacement for a few months, took the high road and played heavily on "The viewers responded, and we're back" theory (which was true to a point).
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 22, 2006, 11:31:08 PM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:06 PM\']I agree with the "WTF!?!?" sentiments regarding LMAD.  Not only is LMAD the only show of the bunch that has no Fremantle/G-T ties (at least domestically), but LMAD is also the only game show of the bunch that never had any of it's incarnations air on CBS![/quote]
It's amazing to me that anyone would think that historical network origination was a significant factor in these people making their decision.

We discussed why Password was probably considered a bad choice elsewhere in this thread.  As for Let's Make A Deal, it's a show the TV masses have heard of, and one that lots of people can play in one show. (In other words, one that doesn't necessarily have a set number of contestants.) When you see how the overall format of the series works, you'll understand better why they chose it.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 23, 2006, 12:06:34 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 08:31 PM\']It's amazing to me that anyone would think that historical network origination was a significant factor in these people making their decision.
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I only thought that because, when faced with a list of the other six shows, that and the fact that they are all under the Fremantle ownership umbrella were the two common factors than ran throughout. So it seemed reasonable to conclude that Password would have been the seventh at the time, since that was really the only major show left that I could think of that fit both criteria and could be worked with the format.

I'm sure it will make sense when all is said and done, but it still seems out of place to me.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 23, 2006, 12:21:07 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 12:06 AM\']I'm sure it will make sense when all is said and done, but it still seems out of place to me.[/quote]
I completely agree that LMAD seems out of place at first glance, but I think it has a lot more to do with ownership and a lot less to do with the fact that at one time or another, the other six happened to have aired on CBS.  I personally think Press Your Luck is out of place on the list because it was by far the least successful of the bunch and I have a hard time thinking of it as a "classic".  (I'm a bit iffy on Card Sharks' credentials on that count as well, but it's easy to play and I'm sure that was a consideration.)
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: GSFan on March 23, 2006, 08:50:50 AM
So, when does the GSM air?

David
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: uncamark on March 23, 2006, 03:16:47 PM
[quote name=\'GSFan\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 07:50 AM\']So, when does the GSM air?
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When initially announced, they were shooting for sometime this summer, when CBS usually goes all out on reality shows.

And the puzzlement over "LMAD" is somewhat understandable, considering that the original UK version was part of ITV's 50th anniversary celebration and designed to salute some of that network's more popular game shows.  There, they were able to easily pick formats that were either owned by Fremantle or by Granada Entertainment.

It seems to me that the people behind the U.S. version were not given the "CBS-only" rule here and in selecting what would fit with the format of the series, decided that "LMAD" was the show closest to "Take Your Pick" from the UK version, so that's the one they went with (after getting Monty's approval, of course).
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 23, 2006, 03:57:31 PM
LMAD '84 did run in daytime on Channel 2 in both NYC and LA, (Detroit, too, though not an O&O) so if you only watched CBS in those cities, you have seen LMAD.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Ian Wallis on March 23, 2006, 04:22:20 PM
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When initially announced, they were shooting for sometime this summer, when CBS usually goes all out on reality shows.

Do we know if it's going to air as a weekly series, or every day for a week?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: BrandonFG on March 23, 2006, 07:01:29 PM
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When initially announced, they were shooting for sometime this summer, when CBS usually goes all out on reality shows.

Do we know if it's going to air as a weekly series, or every day for a week?
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Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: weaklink75 on March 23, 2006, 07:02:41 PM
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My hunch? This might air in the Thursday at 8 slot after Survivor ends (May 11th is the last Thursday episode, the finale is the 14th)...Seven weekly episodes starting May 18th means the last episode would air June 29th, which is perfect timing for CBS (The Thursday after would be July 6th, and Big Brother traditionally starts right after the 4th of July)...That also gets the first episode in May Sweeps (which end the 24th).
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Brandon Brooks on March 23, 2006, 08:34:17 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 03:57 PM\']LMAD '84 did run in daytime on Channel 2 in both NYC and LA, (Detroit, too, though not an O&O) so if you only watched CBS in those cities, you have seen LMAD.
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That's irrelevant.  It didn't run on CBS.

Brandon Brooks
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: tvwxman on March 24, 2006, 07:40:24 AM
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 07:02 PM\']My hunch? This might air in the Thursday at 8 slot after Survivor ends (May 11th is the last Thursday episode, the finale is the 14th)...Seven weekly episodes starting May 18th means the last episode would air June 29th, which is perfect timing for CBS (The Thursday after would be July 6th, and Big Brother traditionally starts right after the 4th of July)...That also gets the first episode in May Sweeps (which end the 24th).
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And my hunch? After GSM's ratings are somewhat decent and building after the first week or two, NBC drops in D/nD to counter it.

It won't be listed in TV guide because it will be last minute. Then again, I cancelled my subscription to TV guide, so I'll miss the missing listing regardless.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Don Howard on March 24, 2006, 10:46:20 AM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:37 PM\']Dick Clark, not to look like a last minute replacement for a few months, took the high road and played heavily on "The viewers responded, and we're back" theory.
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Yes, but he kept on saying it through the weeks and months up to within a few days of the last show. Which is yet another thing that made The $25,000 Pyramid leaving and Card Sharks staying puzzling.
That and the fact that I thought the Eubanks version of CS was wanting.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on March 24, 2006, 11:57:15 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 24 2006, 10:46 AM\']Which is yet another thing that made The $25,000 Pyramid leaving and Card Sharks staying puzzling.
That and the fact that I thought the Eubanks version of CS was wanting.
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I seem to recall reading, somewhere on this board, that Goodson was threatning to pull Price off the schedule if CBS axed Card Sharks. If that indeed is true...guess which show got the axe? (to my dismay)
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Post by: Don Howard on March 24, 2006, 11:59:51 AM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 24 2006, 11:57 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 24 2006, 10:46 AM\']Which is yet another thing that made The $25,000 Pyramid leaving and Card Sharks staying puzzling.
That and the fact that I thought the Eubanks version of CS was wanting.
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I seem to recall reading, somewhere on this board, that Goodson was threatning to pull Price off the schedule if CBS axed Card Sharks. If that indeed is true...guess which show got the axe? (to my dismay)
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Oh. Well, where was he going to take it? Did NBC have a vulnerable hour?
Would ABC have yanked the then-fledgling Home show? Curious this is.
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Post by: Ian Wallis on March 24, 2006, 12:30:29 PM
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I seem to recall reading, somewhere on this board, that Goodson was threatning to pull Price off the schedule if CBS axed Card Sharks. If that indeed is true...guess which show got the axe? (to my dismay)


Can't they only do that when the show's contract comes up for renewal (such as Monty did with "Let's Make a Deal")?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Clay Zambo on March 24, 2006, 12:52:15 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 06:46 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 05:21 PM\']And I'd sure rather see the Perry set for Card Sharks over the Eubanks one.
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But keep in mind that the ENTIRE set won't be recreated here... Someone needs to put up screenshots of the Brit version...i'd bet dollars to donuts that the UK show will act as a template for what's done here...a Massive turntable in the middle of the stage, with scaled down versions of the games played on it...
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I've seen photos.  I've been sworn to secrecy.  (Sorry, y'all.)  Awe will be inspired.  It's gonna be pretty amazing.

Scaled down?  Not so much.  From what I've seen, it's *exact* replicas.  

Really, I'd love to share.  But I can't.
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Post by: mandelweb on March 24, 2006, 05:09:22 PM
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' date=\'Mar 24 2006, 12:52 PM\'][quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 06:46 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 05:21 PM\']And I'd sure rather see the Perry set for Card Sharks over the Eubanks one.
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But keep in mind that the ENTIRE set won't be recreated here... Someone needs to put up screenshots of the Brit version...i'd bet dollars to donuts that the UK show will act as a template for what's done here...a Massive turntable in the middle of the stage, with scaled down versions of the games played on it...
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I've seen photos.  I've been sworn to secrecy.  (Sorry, y'all.)  Awe will be inspired.  It's gonna be pretty amazing.

Scaled down?  Not so much.  From what I've seen, it's *exact* replicas.  

Really, I'd love to share.  But I can't.
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I second that emotion...I was at the second episode taping last night...I've also been sworn to secrecy, but they're two for two in terms of getting this done right...  

Based on the couple of UK episodes I saw, the attention to authenticity (from the set to the music to the gameplay to the camera shots) is even greater in the U.S. version.  

"Marathon" is truly a game show fan's dream.  It's been a while since I've been this excited walking away from a taping...

- Mandel
http://mandelweb.com (http://\"http://mandelweb.com\")
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Post by: MSTieScott on March 24, 2006, 05:47:39 PM
The things that I saw last night... were beautiful things. I can't even describe it. It was... the show! From then! But it's now!

If a series of specials taking a nostalgic look at classic game shows gets good ratings, does that mean the viewing public is interested in nostalgia or well-produced game shows?

This is not to be missed.

--
Scott Robinson
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 24, 2006, 06:00:39 PM
I was directed to a taping report from another member here who shall remain nameless (by their own request), and they said much the same thing.

They also said that they signed something that disallowed them from divulging any information about what they saw. (And no, nothing in the taping report was in violation of this. Which is cool.)

My question is: how precisely do they think they're gonna enforce this? Are they REALLY gonna sue the pants off of some guy who goes home and writes about it in his LiveJournal?
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: pianogeek on March 24, 2006, 06:43:15 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 24 2006, 06:00 PM\']My question is: how precisely do they think they're gonna enforce this? Are they REALLY gonna sue the pants off of some guy who goes home and writes about it in his LiveJournal?
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Hm.  I'm wondering does this have anything to do with the preventing the final game results from leaking before its broadcast?  (See Ken Jennings original run and the press leaking out his dethronement in September/October before the actual show aired on the final day of November Sweeps.)
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: clemon79 on March 24, 2006, 06:49:26 PM
[quote name=\'pianogeek\' date=\'Mar 24 2006, 03:43 PM\']Hm.  I'm wondering does this have anything to do with the preventing the final game results from leaking before its broadcast? 
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Of course it does. That and the desire for a reality-show producer to keep results secret. But that doesn't answer my question.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 24, 2006, 07:16:31 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 24 2006, 06:49 PM\']Of course it does. That and the desire for a reality-show producer to keep results secret. But that doesn't answer my question.[/quote]
I'm not sure they're wildly concerned about word getting out that the guy from N'Sync beat the funny old guy from Airplane! on Let's Make A Deal.  (And no, I have no idea whether that is in fact what happened.)  My impression from what I've heard (and yes, I'm sworn to secrecy too, blah, blah, blah...) is that a significant element of this is simply wanting fans, even casual ones, to dig the nostalgic kick for themselves and not have it ruined by too much detail getting out ahead of broadcast.  

In essence, it's the shows themselves that are spoilers, more so than the results.  Since fans (pro and am) are making up a chunk of the audience, the producers just want to get the word out that the rest of us should discover this gem for ourselves.  I'm sure Mandel's and Randy's tongues are bleeding from biting on them so hard, especially when we post some of our more fanciful speculations.  No, nobody's going to jail if they put up some details on their website.  But the pros know better, and the amateurs ought to.
Title: GS Marathon News...
Post by: Jumpondees on March 25, 2006, 07:02:08 AM
Since I haven't seen this asked yet, I'm going to be the one that does it...

For the illustrious members who have been to a taping....Without giving away anything that may put you in hot water... I'm just curious for an opinion or two on how Ricki Lake is doing in her hosting duties on GSM.