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Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: NickS on February 25, 2006, 08:56:46 AM
It's true -- NBC sent on their Sunday feed an EPK for the show; as usual, part of it was game play.  Enough was sent to completely spoil most of the gameplay for Monday's ep.

The only changes to the game that I heard/saw was that the audience is now shouting like crazy all of the time -- from which briefcase to pick to deal, etc.  It's gone from quiet as the UK to TPiR levels in 0 to 60.

Also -- the graphics have changed on the tote; they've scaled down the dollar amounts so when there's a reveal, there's a scale forward and a y-axis rotation.  You'll see.

I will say from what I saw that Monday's game is *very* watchable, IMO, EVEN with Trump appearing.

Oh -- and to add -- kudos to Howie; as long as they don't ADR/edit the shit out of the show, Howie sounded *much* more comfortable... saying "keep it low," "keep it to the left side of the board," etc.  My only wish was that he'd be more conversational with The Banker (who is now using a PowerBook -- nice product placement, Apple).  However, I'm optimistic.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: itiparanoid13 on February 25, 2006, 09:20:25 AM
I interviewed Scott St. John (Executive Producer of DoND) last Friday, it'll be up on Monday.  I know he said that the Banker will be getting more of a personality on later shows.  Whether that rings true, or what his definition of "personality" is, we'll see.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: Don Howard on February 25, 2006, 10:31:24 AM
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Feb 25 2006, 09:20 AM\']he said that the Banker will be getting more of a personality on later shows.  Whether that rings true, or what his definition of "personality" is, we'll see.
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It'll be the voice of John Forsythe. At the top of the show, he'll greet the suitcase presenters by saying, "Good evening, Angels".
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: Ian Wallis on February 26, 2006, 04:57:38 PM
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Enough was sent to completely spoil most of the gameplay for Monday's ep.


The on-air promos I've seen during Olympic coverage kind of give something away for the whole week, although they don't give away results for individual contestants.  I'm kind of surprised that they did that...I guess they're really trying to promote the "more money" aspect of the new run.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: NickS on February 27, 2006, 07:48:02 AM
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Enough was sent to completely spoil most of the gameplay for Monday's ep.


The on-air promos I've seen during Olympic coverage kind of give something away for the whole week, although they don't give away results for individual contestants.  I'm kind of surprised that they did that...I guess they're really trying to promote the "more money" aspect of the new run.
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I'm not; NBC was notorious in how they promoed twenty/one.  We'll see how they go with this.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: GSmaniac on February 27, 2006, 09:47:37 AM
What do you mean "notorious"? I don't remember the ads

GSmaniac
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: zachhoran on February 27, 2006, 10:17:04 AM
[quote name=\'GSmaniac\' date=\'Feb 27 2006, 09:47 AM\']What do you mean "notorious"? I don't remember the ads

GSmaniac
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They gave away a result or one or two of the show's(and at the time, the game show genre's) all-time money winners, Rahim Oberholtzer and Dave Legler IIRC.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: TLEberle on February 27, 2006, 10:31:26 AM
If you had seen the ads for "Next time...on Twenty-one!" you would see a huge torrent of balloons and confetti, and a man conspicuously in uniform outside the booths. Having watched the show before, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he was going to win $1 million.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: pianogeek on February 27, 2006, 10:03:55 PM
NOTE: Trust me west coasters, the show was "watchable!!!"  The editing staff learned their lesson and I don't think I've heard at least one obvious ADR/voice-over.  

Because of that, IMO, I see that the game play or storyline flowed a little more smoothly and Howie has more of a personality.

So go watch/videotape/TiVo and enjoy.  You'll like tonight's show.  :)
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: DrJWJustice on February 27, 2006, 10:27:28 PM
[quote name=\'pianogeek\' date=\'Feb 27 2006, 10:03 PM\']NOTE: Trust me west coasters, the show was "watchable!!!"  The editing staff learned their lesson and I don't think I've heard at least one obvious ADR/voice-over. 

Because of that, IMO, I see that the game play or storyline flowed a little more smoothly and Howie has more of a personality.

So go watch/videotape/TiVo and enjoy.  You'll like tonight's show.  :)
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I have to agree.  Tonight's show had far better production values, a much faster pace that suits the show better in the opening rounds, and Howie was clearly more at ease with his role.  Adding Donald Trump was both a shameless plug and a brilliant manoever, IMO.  

This is show is quickly becoming one of the dumbest game ideas ever to succeed brilliantly, to echo something along the lines of what Gene Rayburn once famously said about "Match Game".
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: Gromit on February 28, 2006, 02:37:21 AM
I'd still like even faster pacing. 50 minutes on one contestant is too much when it's *obvious* they're going to continue for the first six or seven times.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: GSmaniac on February 28, 2006, 10:03:44 AM
Last night's show was good. I agree, better production value and Howie seemed more at ease. I really liked the first contestant because for the first time there seemed to be conflict between the contestant and his family helpers which is probably why NBC came up with the idea to put them there. I really hope the show does well this week.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: DjohnsonCB on February 28, 2006, 01:41:29 PM
I must have missed something regarding the home player game.  Last time, we had to pick from the remaining case numbers to try and win 10 grand.  Now they've changed it so that there are six *other* cases numbered 1 though 6 not used by the studio player and we have to determine which of these has $10,000.

I was confused sitting here--after the form page taking a bit of time to become active, I saw that the pull-down menu had numbers 1 through 6 and I kept wondering what happed to 7 through 26???
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: clemon79 on February 28, 2006, 02:16:26 PM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 10:41 AM\']I must have missed something regarding the home player game.  Last time, we had to pick from the remaining case numbers to try and win 10 grand.  Now they've changed it so that there are six *other* cases numbered 1 though 6 not used by the studio player and we have to determine which of these has $10,000.
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Yeah, I did a double-take too, since they did a home-player plug going to the break after the segment in which the $10,000 had been revealed. I was like "Um, DUH!"

Thing is, they have to do it in a way that isn't dependent on gameplay, or else the West Coast has an advantage, and as we know, NBC would never be able to live with themselves if they did that. :)
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: uncamark on February 28, 2006, 02:34:01 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 01:16 PM\'][quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 10:41 AM\']I must have missed something regarding the home player game.  Last time, we had to pick from the remaining case numbers to try and win 10 grand.  Now they've changed it so that there are six *other* cases numbered 1 though 6 not used by the studio player and we have to determine which of these has $10,000.
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Yeah, I did a double-take too, since they did a home-player plug going to the break after the segment in which the $10,000 had been revealed. I was like "Um, DUH!"

Thing is, they have to do it in a way that isn't dependent on gameplay, or else the West Coast has an advantage, and as we know, NBC would never be able to live with themselves if they did that. :)
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Seemed to me that in December, they did three different Lucky Case drawings--one for the Eastern/Central time zones, one for Mountain and one for Pacific--so that everyone had an equal shot.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: clemon79 on February 28, 2006, 02:38:17 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 11:34 AM\']Seemed to me that in December, they did three different Lucky Case drawings--one for the Eastern/Central time zones, one for Mountain and one for Pacific--so that everyone had an equal shot.
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Right, and very likely they do the same thing here. Thing is, though, the East Coast had to make a wild-assed guess as to which case had the $10K, while someone on the West Coast could call someone on the East Coast and know where it was in advance, and gain a competitive advantage that way.

So, just easier and fairer for everyone to make it a completely random shot.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on February 28, 2006, 05:03:32 PM
Um . . . Chris, unless my memory is shot (and it is), I'm pretty sure the *in-game* $10,000 case has nothing to do with the home viewer game. The prize for picking the latter is $10K, yes, but that's not supposed to be what's *in* it.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: clemon79 on February 28, 2006, 05:41:53 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 02:03 PM\']Um . . . Chris, unless my memory is shot (and it is), I'm pretty sure the *in-game* $10,000 case has nothing to do with the home viewer game. The prize for picking the latter is $10K, yes, but that's not supposed to be what's *in* it.
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I am almost positive that during the initial run of the show, the Home Viewer Game asked the viewer to pick the case with the $10,000 in it during the actual game in progress, and once it was found, entries were closed and the winner was selected based on those entries that picked that case.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: SRIV94 on February 28, 2006, 06:10:12 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 04:41 PM\']I am almost positive that during the initial run of the show, the Home Viewer Game asked the viewer to pick the case with the $10,000 in it during the actual game in progress, and once it was found, entries were closed and the winner was selected based on those entries that picked that case.
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I think Robert's right on this one.  Going back to Scungio's transcript for night one (using the "find on top of page" command so I didn't have to sift through the whole thing)--the lucky case had $300K in it.

Doug
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on February 28, 2006, 06:12:47 PM
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9563&hl=dond (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9563&hl=dond\")

If this recap is accurate, the first $10K was revealed in the first set of picks, at the top of the show, and the second one was still hidden among 15 suitcases at the end. Not much room to play the home game there.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: clemon79 on February 28, 2006, 06:17:44 PM
Maybe I'm nuts, then. I could have sworn this was how it worked.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: NickS on February 28, 2006, 07:40:55 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 06:17 PM\']Maybe I'm nuts, then. I could have sworn this was how it worked.
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You are nuts, but you're correct on how it worked.  The Lucky Case Game was inconsequential to what the case had inside -- it's what number the case was.  "Case" in point -- NBC is playing a "Lucky Case" game with the affiliates, and there's no amount of money in 1-26; it just depends on the random number chosen.

The difference here is that they are actually showing where the $10,000 is in the golden velvet-lined briefcases.

On a related note, I'd like to (tm) velvet-lined briefcases as a euphemism.
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: clemon79 on February 28, 2006, 08:22:24 PM
[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 04:40 PM\']You are nuts, but you're correct on how it worked.  The Lucky Case Game was inconsequential to what the case had inside -- it's what number the case was.
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Ah, I see. So they just picked a lucky case, and once it was opened (whether it had $1 or $3.98 inside), at the next break they said "Hey, that was the lucky case, stop texting!"

Good deal. Thanks for assisting my misremembrance. :)
Title: NBC reveals Monday DoND action
Post by: uncamark on March 01, 2006, 04:23:56 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 07:22 PM\'][quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' date=\'Feb 28 2006, 04:40 PM\']You are nuts, but you're correct on how it worked.  The Lucky Case Game was inconsequential to what the case had inside -- it's what number the case was.
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Ah, I see. So they just picked a lucky case, and once it was opened (whether it had $1 or $3.98 inside), at the next break they said "Hey, that was the lucky case, stop texting!"
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To be more exact, a graphic appeared when the Lucky Case was opened stating that fact.