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Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Don Howard on February 03, 2006, 02:50:54 PM
Over the years, I recall hearing Jack Barry and Wink Martindale say, "So far, our champion has successfully defeated all of his opponents".
Well, as opposed to unsuccessfully defeating them? Do you think before you say this stuff time and time again?
Alex Trebek on Classic Concentration would say just before the car round, "You'll have 35 full seconds". Naturally, they're full seconds. There's no need to split those seconds like atoms when full ones will do.
OK, that's out of my system. Have a nice weekend....if you want to.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Monarx on February 03, 2006, 05:50:52 PM
"Returning champion" as opposed to one that one that would rather sit at home and play via satellite.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: byrd62 on February 03, 2006, 05:59:06 PM
[quote name=\'Monarx\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 05:50 PM\']"Returning champion" as opposed to one that one that would rather sit at home and play via satellite.
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In Australia and maybe Britain, it's "carryover champion".
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Kevin Prather on February 03, 2006, 06:00:15 PM
Amitabh Bachchan on KBC in India has one. He always says "Well played! Well played!"

"Who was the first president of India?" "B. Final answer." "Well played!"

Yes. Giving the correct answer is generally a good way to play the game.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Matt Ottinger on February 03, 2006, 06:01:38 PM
Of course when they were taping The Joker's Wild five-a-day, Jack always had to ask the players if they would be able to return for the next program.

And Monarx, your sig still frightens me.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: davemackey on February 03, 2006, 06:25:38 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 07:01 PM\']Of course when they were taping The Joker's Wild five-a-day, Jack always had to ask the players if they would be able to return for the next program.

And Monarx, your sig still frightens me.
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Jack Barry always said "On our last program we crowned a brand new champion," even if the guy had been reigining for several days.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Kevin Prather on February 03, 2006, 06:37:52 PM
Alex Trebek always says "Could (s)he be the next Ken Jennings?" when a contestant returns for more than about four days.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: zachhoran on February 03, 2006, 07:13:26 PM
Add to the spiels previously mentioned: Barker still occasionally saying that TPIR is the number-one rated game show in daytime television, despite the fact that it's been the only remaining network daytime game show for the last 12 years.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Kevin Prather on February 03, 2006, 07:21:34 PM
And his constant historical moments.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Brandon Brooks on February 03, 2006, 07:38:51 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 06:01 PM\']And Monarx, your sig still frightens me.
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Why he's comparing you to Wayne Brady is baffling.

Brandon Brooks
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Monarx on February 03, 2006, 07:56:44 PM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 07:38 PM\']Why he's comparing you to Wayne Brady is baffling.

Brandon Brooks
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Matt said it once and I've been too lazy to change it ever since. :-P
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Brandon Brooks on February 03, 2006, 08:13:44 PM
[quote name=\'Monarx\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 07:56 PM\']Matt said it once and I've been too lazy to change it ever since. :-P
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I never would've thought our esteemed Matt would say that, but he did (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=7518&st=7&p=81014&#entry81014\").

(Connecti-Matt, maybe.)

I'll go watch some TTD '90 now.

Brandon Brooks
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: mystery7 on February 03, 2006, 08:26:49 PM
[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 06:25 PM\']"On our last program we crowned a brand new champion..."
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I sometimes wondered if the newly-crowned champion would emerge from the wings with a bump on his head to prove that he really HAD been crowned.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: whewfan on February 03, 2006, 09:42:33 PM
"You have drawn FIRST BLOOD!"- Richard Karn
"You've given us some great entertainment"- John Davidson on 100k Pyramid
"And now it's time for the ROUND ROBIN GAME (clap clap clap clap)"- David Ruprecht... and a running gag on GSC8
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Kevin Prather on February 03, 2006, 09:59:11 PM
Wow.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: tjhornikel on February 03, 2006, 10:15:14 PM
The one that always disturbed me was Jim Lange on BULLSEYE saying, "Let's spin the information in the windows..."

Today, I expect to see Bill O'Reilly jump out from the wings, and onto the Bonus Island to put a stop to such things. :^)
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: trainman on February 03, 2006, 11:28:52 PM
On GSN's new-to-me "Super Password" reruns, Bert Convy telling contestants "you haven't scored yet, but you will" has been annoying me a bit.  You're not psychic, Bert, so shaddap.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Kevin Prather on February 03, 2006, 11:36:58 PM
[quote name=\'trainman\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 09:28 PM\']Bert Convy telling contestants "you haven't scored yet, but you will" has been annoying me a bit.  You're not psychic, Bert, so shaddap.
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I dunno. I've heard he can be pretty persuasive backstage...
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: DrBear on February 04, 2006, 12:02:23 AM
In watching the B&W WML? it's amazing how little John Daly's spiel changed from show to show, especially when introducing the mystery guest. About the only time it changed is if a panel member was doing something silly - Groucho refusing to put his blindfold on - but otherwise it was almost exact, down to the inflections.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: PYLdude on February 04, 2006, 12:46:29 AM
[quote name=\'cool245\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 10:50 PM\']To add to the above quote: "We're going to play scrambled letters"-David Ruprecht (it was always scrambled letters)
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Uh, no it wasn't.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: FOXSportsFan on February 04, 2006, 01:47:36 AM
[quote name=\'trainman\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 11:28 PM\']On GSN's new-to-me "Super Password" reruns, Bert Convy telling contestants "you haven't scored yet, but you will" has been annoying me a bit.  You're not psychic, Bert, so shaddap.
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That doesn't hold a candle to Bert almost always saying "And, if you're ready to go..." leading into a puzzle or Alpha...errr Super Password.

Maybe, I'm NOT ready to go Convy.

This said, when it comes to hosts and broadcasters in generals, some phrases or words one latches onto for the sake of familiarity.  Most broadcasters are guilty of repetition.  The own worst critic that I am, I'm guilty with play by play being repetitive sometimes.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Craig Karlberg on February 04, 2006, 03:51:16 AM
The one thing I always remember about Chuck Woolery's WOF was him saying "Once you buy a prize, it's yours to keep" without even a slip-up.  Sometimes, he might mumble a bit when spewing off the main game parameters(top $ vakue & such) while the wheel is spinning but after it stops, his "buy a prize" schtick is clearly audible.  I guess the wheel was kinda loud back then when it's spun hard enough.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: BrandonFG on February 04, 2006, 03:52:41 AM
On Wheel, I noticed when a contestant gets a difficult bonus round puzzle (usually no more than 2 or 3 letters showing), Pat always says "You're a good player, talk it out."
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: GrabBag40 on February 04, 2006, 04:02:04 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 4 2006, 03:52 AM\']On Wheel, I noticed when a contestant gets a difficult bonus round puzzle (usually no more than 2 or 3 letters showing), Pat always says "You're a good player, talk it out."
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Another of note, on many episodes of Ray Combs' Family Feud, Ray would say "Let me call for calm."
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: clemon79 on February 04, 2006, 06:43:03 AM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 06:59 PM\']Wow.
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Don't feed the idiot, guys.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: MikeK on February 04, 2006, 09:28:40 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 4 2006, 06:43 AM\'][quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 06:59 PM\']Wow.[/quote]
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 09:46 PM\']Uh, no it wasn't.[/quote]
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Chris:  You, PYLDude, and Kevin wish you were half as cool as that guy.

My contribution:  Jim Caldwell's frequent references to Thom McKee, even though McKee's run was five years earlier.  It was the "Could _________ be the next Ken Jennings?" of 1985.

Mike
Currently 18% as cool as cool245
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Clay Zambo on February 04, 2006, 10:23:08 AM
Bert on Super Password: "Get all ten words and I'll give you...(names jackpot amount)."

Uh, Bert?  Was the prize money really coming out of your salary?  Let's check on that, shall we?
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: JasonA1 on February 04, 2006, 10:31:30 AM
Far be it for me to play the almighty, but a lot of us seem to want to turn this into another "commonly repeated phrases" thread despite Don giving us several examples of oft-said lines that don't make much sense.

I didn't want to say that without contributing myself, so my weak addition is the tendency of Mike O'Malley and Rolf Bernischke to throw to the announcer by saying "tell us what we won." MG Kelly once threw in something like, "oh, you won something too?"

-Jason
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: chris319 on February 04, 2006, 12:37:13 PM
I don't mean to shock you kids, but all emcee language -- all of it -- is scripted. Emcee language is language which explains and/or advances the game, as distinguished from ad-libbed banter with celebrities and contestants. Two things emcee language must accomplish are 1) make certain points and make them accurately without misstating the rules of the game, and 2) provide cues to that all-important guy known as the director, who is hanging on your recital of the language to initiate camera moves, special effects, etc. The last thing an emcee wants to do is recite the language in such a way as to misrepresent the rules of the game or change the language to the point where the expected cues are indecipherable to the director (viz. nighttime The Price Is Right with Dennis James). On the other hand, an emcee must also make the language sound fresh every time he recites it, even when it's the 15th show in a three-day taping session and when he gets home his wife will probably want to resume the argument they were having when he left the house.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on February 04, 2006, 12:52:44 PM
So we should blame the person who's writing the emcee language, not the emcee. Still someone to blame. Blame!

I have it on the greatest scientific authority that only cool122.5 can meet Mike's requirements. cool122.5 should also not be confused with Cool 102.5, the station with the phrase that pays.

Still not keeping in the spirit of the thread, but I wouldn't mind some common emcee phrases modified to better suit reality. "It's tougher ... for me not to get tongue-tied about halfway through, so we'll give you 25 seconds."
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: FOXSportsFan on February 04, 2006, 12:59:09 PM
Variety is the spice of life.  I'll throw in a sportscasting sidebar.  Joel Meyers is currently the voice of the Lakers and is known for being, arguably, the human thesaurus of play by play.  He finds different ways of saying things most commonly referred to as a "pass" or a "shot" as often as possible to mix it up, liven up the proceedings, and to entertain himself probably as well.

Same goes with an emcee...Gene Rayburn in his explanations in the beginning of MGPM always finds a way to vary up his description of the rules, usually finding a way to poke fun at the contestants (the "beautiful people", "dingbats", "creatures from the dark lagoon", et al).  There are certain areas that lend to ad-libbing/improvisation of the cuff, and certain things, as our honorable moderator mentioned, where you have to stick to script.  Sometimes there's no better way to say things.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Winkfan on February 04, 2006, 08:42:40 PM
Gene Rayburn in his explanations in the beginning of MGPM always finds a way to vary up his description of the rules, usually finding a way to poke fun at the contestants (the "beautiful people", "dingbats", "creatures from the dark lagoon", et al).

Pardon moi, but don't you mean the celebrities? There's no way in Marineville* that Geno would EVER call his contestants "creatures from the dark lagoon."

Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Hilary Safire of the Big Board!

(*setting for the "Supermarionation" series, Stingray.)
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: FOXSportsFan on February 04, 2006, 09:09:39 PM
[quote name=\'Winkfan\' date=\'Feb 4 2006, 08:42 PM\'][quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Feb 4 2006, 10:59 AM\']Gene Rayburn in his explanations in the beginning of MGPM always finds a way to vary up his description of the rules, usually finding a way to poke fun at the contestants (the "beautiful people", "dingbats", "creatures from the dark lagoon", et al).[/quote]

Pardon moi, but don't you mean the celebrities? There's no way in Marineville* that Geno would EVER call his contestants "creatures from the dark lagoon."

Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Hilary Safire of the Big Board!

(*setting for the "Supermarionation" series, Stingray.)
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I meant celebs, yes...but with some of the weird answers he got, they may well be from that same lagoon...Cuckoo, Fran, and...ya
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Jimmy Owen on February 05, 2006, 07:29:12 AM
Chuck Woolery used to say out of commercial "Welcome back to round two of WOF," when round 2 was just beginning.  If I had scripted that, I would have changed it to "Welcome back to WOF. It's round 2.."
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Ian Wallis on February 05, 2006, 01:51:26 PM
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That doesn't hold a candle to Bert almost always saying "And, if you're ready to go..." leading into a puzzle or Alpha...errr Super Password.


Or Regis and Merideth stating during the Ask the Audience lifeline "...if you're ready, please vote now".
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: clemon79 on February 05, 2006, 03:46:08 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Feb 5 2006, 04:29 AM\']Chuck Woolery used to say out of commercial "Welcome back to round two of WOF," when round 2 was just beginning.  If I had scripted that, I would have changed it to "Welcome back to WOF. It's round 2.."
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You gotta be kidding me.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Jimmy Owen on February 05, 2006, 03:59:42 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 5 2006, 03:46 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Feb 5 2006, 04:29 AM\']Chuck Woolery used to say out of commercial "Welcome back to round two of WOF," when round 2 was just beginning.  If I had scripted that, I would have changed it to "Welcome back to WOF. It's round 2.."
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No, he really said it! How can you welcome someone back to something that hadn't begun? It boggles the mind in its incredulity.

(No need for rebuttal, I get it that you don't think it's significant.)
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: clemon79 on February 05, 2006, 04:02:42 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Feb 5 2006, 12:59 PM\']No, he really said it! How can you welcome someone back to something that hadn't begun? It boggles the mind in its incredulity.

(No need for rebuttal, I get it that you don't think it's significant.)
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Oh, sir, you FAR overestimate my opinion.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on February 05, 2006, 07:38:38 PM
A friend mentioned something to me once that I think fits here:  On Wheel, when someone takes a Mystery Wedge, Pat always says, "by the way, that other Mystery Wedge is now a regular $1,000 space"...even if it's the Bankrupt.  Why would anyone want to take the other space if they knew it was a Bankrupt?
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on February 05, 2006, 09:57:24 PM
Steve: We're talking about contestants that can't remember that the R was called 10 seconds ago. :)

(Chris, forgive me.) Jimmy: For Chuck, round 2 has already started--they've loaded the board and the wheel. Now he's welcoming us back to the interesting (televised) part of it.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: clemon79 on February 05, 2006, 10:07:35 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Feb 5 2006, 06:57 PM\'](Chris, forgive me.) Jimmy: For Chuck, round 2 has already started--they've loaded the board and the wheel. Now he's welcoming us back to the interesting (televised) part of it.
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More to the point, it's all about taking a little artistic license to create a fast-paced feel. If Chuck up and says that we're between rounds, as Jimmy would have liked, it creates the feel that the game is at a dead stop, whereas the way they did it makes the viewer feel like the show is moving along faster.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on February 05, 2006, 11:56:25 PM
Well, yes. That's why I was asking you to forgive me, nitpicking a point that was already fine for an obvious reason.
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: clemon79 on February 06, 2006, 12:23:00 AM
Of course. I responded more because I wanted to elaborate on my initial reaction of "that's perfectly moronic" with an explanation (after a modicum of consideration) of WHY I thought it was moronic. :)
Title: Emcee Language
Post by: Jay Temple on February 06, 2006, 01:44:57 PM
Alex Trebek on a clue that all three players missed:  "No harm, no foul."  It only bothers me when it's late in the game and it has a direct bearing on what can happen in FJ.  Mainly this means that the third-place player goes into a deficit, or the lead player now has a lock game.