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Title: Pat Harrington Jr......
Post by: aaron sica on February 01, 2006, 11:46:49 AM
So I caught the tail end of the last ep of the week of MG'74 last night, with Pat Harrington Jr. on the panel. "One Day at a Time" was around a year away from premiering. What was his claim to fame in '74? IMDB lists minor roles, but nothing that answered my question...
Title: Pat Harrington Jr......
Post by: SRIV94 on February 01, 2006, 11:57:07 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 10:46 AM\']So I caught the tail end of the last ep of the week of MG'74 last night, with Pat Harrington Jr. on the panel. "One Day at a Time" was around a year away from premiering. What was his claim to fame in '74? IMDB lists minor roles, but nothing that answered my question...
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Rayburn mentioned something about him having a recurring role on OWEN MARSHALL:  ATTORNEY AT LAW (Harrington mentioned that he was the losing attorney every third week or so).  Boy, was he a bad MG player, though.

Weren't Harrington and Rayburn both part of Steve Allen's crew?

Doug -- and the countdown to 1800 continues
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Post by: uncamark on February 01, 2006, 02:25:25 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 10:57 AM\']Weren't Harrington and Rayburn both part of Steve Allen's crew?

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They were--Harrington played Italian golf pro Guido Panzini in the Man on the Street sketches and Rayburn was both the "Tonight" show and Sunday night show announcer.

Among his "Tonight" duties was anchoring a straight newscast every evening (when some at NBC wanted "Tonight" to be more like the "Today" show).  Those of us who mainly know him from "MG" might found that astounding by itself.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on February 01, 2006, 04:22:52 PM
Getting the part of Schneider on One Day At A Time was definitely a huge bump in his career, but he was one of those always-working actors whose face was familiar, even if his resume wasn't.  It's safe to assume that he and Rayburn were friendly from their Steve Allen days, and that might have helped him get a spot on the panel.

Fun on-topic facts:  Harrington was on the panel of Jackie Gleason's notorious flop, You're In The Picture.  He was also the original host of the Pantomime Quiz revival Stump the Stars (oddly, that's not mentioned on his IMDB listing) before Mike Stokey decided he'd rather go back to hosting his baby.  Harrington also played the quiz bowl moderator in Disney's The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes.  OK, I'm done now.
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Post by: aaron sica on February 01, 2006, 04:33:05 PM
Continuing about Pat....

His trademark mustache (or should I say, "Schneider's" trademark mustache) I only ever saw on "One Day At a Time". I never saw him with it when on game shows, or any other show for that matter - was it just for his character?

For fans of ODaaT (like me), Comcast now has the first 6 episodes of the show available On Demand. The show also sticks in my mind because it was CBS's last 3:30pm (EST) offering before GL moved to the 3-4 timeslot (from 2:30-3:30) in February 1980.

ObGameShow: MG also aired at 3:30pm for a good bit of its run.
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Post by: BrandonFG on February 01, 2006, 05:08:52 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 04:33 PM\']Continuing about Pat....

His trademark mustache (or should I say, "Schneider's" trademark mustache) I only ever saw on "One Day At a Time". I never saw him with it when on game shows, or any other show for that matter - was it just for his character?
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{Zach mode}Seems like it...he was clean-shaven when he appeared on Blackout as well. He did a Roseanne guest shot in the mid-90s and still had it, but played himself.{/Zach mode}
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on February 01, 2006, 06:40:57 PM
I could post another Stoopid Game Show Connection for Mr. Harrington, but it would require admitting that I watch Yes, Dear.
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Post by: FOXSportsFan on February 01, 2006, 08:00:25 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 06:40 PM\']I could post another Stoopid Game Show Connection for Mr. Harrington, but it would require admitting that I watch Yes, Dear.
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How the hell that show got a reprieve and to 100 episodes and to syndication and the like is one of God's many miracles.
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Post by: tvwxman on February 01, 2006, 09:00:23 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 08:00 PM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 06:40 PM\']I could post another Stoopid Game Show Connection for Mr. Harrington, but it would require admitting that I watch Yes, Dear.
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How the hell that show got a reprieve and to 100 episodes and to syndication and the like is one of God's many miracles.
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Easy answer : The show is owned by the network. If the show is owned by the network, it has a much better chance of getting to the magic 100 eps, if the show is MARGINALLY good (and cheap. cheap helps too.). Because syndication is the promised land for sitcoms.
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Post by: sshuffield70 on February 02, 2006, 09:44:31 AM
Harrington was also well known in animation in the same role as Peter Sellers and, now, Steve Martin.
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Post by: SRIV94 on February 02, 2006, 11:31:51 AM
[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Feb 2 2006, 08:44 AM\']Harrington was also well known in animation in the same role as Peter Sellers and, now, Steve Martin.
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Don't say "sí," say "oui."

Harrington also voiced the Inspector's sidekick--Sergeant Deux-Deux.

Doug -- and the countdown to 1800 continues
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Post by: Don Howard on February 02, 2006, 11:39:08 AM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 11:57 AM\']Rayburn mentioned something about him having a recurring role on OWEN MARSHALL:  ATTORNEY AT LAW (Harrington mentioned that he was the losing attorney every third week or so).
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Indeed so. One of the non-winning counselors he rotated with was Gilligan's Island professor Russell Johnson.
As for the moustache, yays, twas fake. In a series of commercials Pat did for HOT CAR which ran in Cleveland (and quite likely many other cities) during the early 1980s, he played himself [without the 'stache] and as the Schneider character [with said 'stache]--sometimes in the same spot.
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Post by: uncamark on February 02, 2006, 12:19:21 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 08:00 PM\'][quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 08:00 PM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 06:40 PM\']I could post another Stoopid Game Show Connection for Mr. Harrington, but it would require admitting that I watch Yes, Dear.
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How the hell that show got a reprieve and to 100 episodes and to syndication and the like is one of God's many miracles.
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Easy answer : The show is owned by the network. If the show is owned by the network, it has a much better chance of getting to the magic 100 eps, if the show is MARGINALLY good (and cheap. cheap helps too.). Because syndication is the promised land for sitcoms.
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*Partially* owned by the network--Twentieth-Century Fox is the other owner.  And unfortunately for CBS, when they tossed the coin 20th got the more lucrative (for sitcoms) domestic syndication rights.  CBS Paramount only has the far less lucrative overseas rights.

In the end, "Yes, Dear" is one of those shows that enough people find unobjectionable enough that its afterlife will far surpass the trendy shows that critics and Internet message posters obsess over but don't get the Nielsen numbers.  Despite the 500-channel universe, Paul Klein's Least Objectionable Program theory still has some traction--and "Yes, Dear" and "According to Jim" will be on prime time on NAN ten years from now while "Scrubs" and "Arrested Development" only exist on whatever replaces DVDs.

ObGameShow:  No ifs, ands or buts, Mike O'Malley's got Guts!  Do you have it?
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Post by: BrandonFG on February 02, 2006, 06:06:02 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 2 2006, 12:19 PM\']Despite the 500-channel universe, Paul Klein's Least Objectionable Program theory still has some traction--and "Yes, Dear" and "According to Jim" will be on prime time on NAN ten years from now while "Scrubs" and "Arrested Development" only exist on whatever replaces DVDs.
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"Yes Dear" is tolerable...I'll even say it has it's moments (such as that Speed Dating episode)...plus, I give Greg Garcia credit for writing some "Family Guy" episodes and coming up with "My Name is Earl".

However, "According to Jim"=someone either made a deal with the devil or had some pictures involving farm animals.
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on February 02, 2006, 08:12:53 PM
Subtract all the stupid sitcom plots and irritating husband-wife bickering from the show, and the 20 or 30 percent of Yes, Dear that's left is pretty funny, IMO. (FTR, Pat appeared on the show, as himself, as an impromptu narrator of a wedding video, and all of his dialogue was with Mike O'Malley's character, IIRC. PDQ, AFTRA, SOL.)

. . .
*coughLizaSnyderdoesn'thurteithercough*
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Post by: ChrisLambert! on February 04, 2006, 07:26:13 AM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Feb 2 2006, 08:12 PM\']Subtract all the stupid sitcom plots and irritating husband-wife bickering from the show, and the 20 or 30 percent of Yes, Dear that's left is pretty funny, IMO.
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I could've given you that up until this year. It's been horrible since coming back from last season's shoulda-been-the-finale.

Just one more ep, though, and we're free. :)
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on February 04, 2006, 12:39:08 PM
To be fair, I've only seen one episode from the current season, and I was indeed underwhelmed. Way to screw up your dynamic, guys.
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Post by: davemackey on February 06, 2006, 07:21:32 AM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Feb 2 2006, 12:31 PM\'][quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Feb 2 2006, 08:44 AM\']Harrington was also well known in animation in the same role as Peter Sellers and, now, Steve Martin.
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Don't say "sí," say "oui."

Harrington also voiced the Inspector's sidekick--Sergeant Deux-Deux.

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That actually turned into four years of work for Mr. Harrington, as the first of those cartoons was produced in 1965 and the final one in 1969. I'm not sure that Messrs. DePatie and Freleng were able to pay him an exorbitant salary, but at least it kept him eating.

There actually was one "Inspector" cartoon where Harrington didn't do-do Deux-Deux - "La Feet's Defeat" (1968) actually used Hanna-Barbera vet Don Messick in the role, and D-D was drawn a little more alert and wide-eyed in that episode.
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Post by: SRIV94 on February 06, 2006, 10:33:56 AM
[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Feb 6 2006, 06:21 AM\']There actually was one "Inspector" cartoon where Harrington didn't do-do Deux-Deux - "La Feet's Defeat" (1968) actually used Hanna-Barbera vet Don Messick in the role, and D-D was drawn a little more alert and wide-eyed in that episode.
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What struck me about Messick's take on the character was that when it came time to do the new bumpers for the Pink Panther's 1969 show (which also included Inspector cartoons) that whoever voiced Deux-Deux (I *think* I saw that it was Marvin Miller, but I'm not positive) seemed to use Messick's model rather than Harrington's.

Man, I loved those DFE shorts.

Doug -- and the countdown to 1800 continues
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Post by: DjohnsonCB on February 15, 2006, 11:44:33 AM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 02:25 PM\'][quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 10:57 AM\']Weren't Harrington and Rayburn both part of Steve Allen's crew?

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They were--Harrington played Italian golf pro Guido Panzini in the Man on the Street sketches and Rayburn was both the "Tonight" show and Sunday night show announcer.

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Harrington is one of the celeb players on the surviving 1970 ep of It Takes Two (watched my copy again this week) and Vin Scully makes a couple of references to the Guido Panzini character during the show.
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Post by: BrandonFG on February 15, 2006, 10:02:22 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Feb 6 2006, 10:33 AM\']What struck me about Messick's take on the character was that when it came time to do the new bumpers for the Pink Panther's 1969 show (which also included Inspector cartoons) that whoever voiced Deux-Deux (I *think* I saw that it was Marvin Miller, but I'm not positive) seemed to use Messick's model rather than Harrington's.

Man, I loved those DFE shorts.
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I caught some on Boomerang Sunday afternoon, and it was like being 7 all over again, when I would watch the reruns on TNT...loooooong before it became "Law and Order" and "Charmed" reruns.

The one thing that struck me as odd was some of the shorts used a laugh track...when was that used?

ObGameShow: Didn't one of the "Charmed" girls do HSq? I wanna say Holly Marie Combs. If not, I believe the late Jerry Orbach won one of the first Celebrity J! tournaments. I know he did pretty well.
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Post by: SRIV94 on February 15, 2006, 11:04:52 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 15 2006, 09:02 PM\']I caught some on Boomerang Sunday afternoon, and it was like being 7 all over again, when I would watch the reruns on TNT...loooooong before it became "Law and Order" and "Charmed" reruns.

The one thing that struck me as odd was some of the shorts used a laugh track...when was that used?
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The laugh track was used when the cartoons were shown on NBC.  Some of the toons on the new Pink Panther DVD set have laugh tracks (not all, though).

EDIT:  And I'm jealous--I've been after my cable company to add Boomerang for ages.  And now it seems they're starting to add more of the originals that turned CN to pot.

Doug
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Post by: aaron sica on February 15, 2006, 11:57:54 PM
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EDIT:  And I'm jealous--I've been after my cable company to add Boomerang for ages.  And now it seems they're starting to add more of the originals that turned CN to pot.

Doug
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I'm not fussy with my TV.......To me, my Comcast Digital Cable is just as good as satellite TV (and even better w/ the pay channel tiers), but the only spot they fall short is no Boomerang. It was one of my favorite channels when I had a DBS...

ObGameShow: I wanted a DISH Network badly in 1996 because they were the first to offer GSN.
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Post by: uncamark on February 16, 2006, 05:46:37 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Feb 15 2006, 10:04 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 15 2006, 09:02 PM\']I caught some on Boomerang Sunday afternoon, and it was like being 7 all over again, when I would watch the reruns on TNT...loooooong before it became "Law and Order" and "Charmed" reruns.

The one thing that struck me as odd was some of the shorts used a laugh track...when was that used?
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The laugh track was used when the cartoons were shown on NBC.  Some of the toons on the new Pink Panther DVD set have laugh tracks (not all, though).
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And on the ABC run of "Pink Panther" and the first syndication run (even though the original title sequences and end title cards were restored).  When the Turner channels ran the shorts, a few of the shorts had canned laughter, along with any bumpers that they may've used from the series (which may've been why laugh track versions were used in the 1979 syndicated run).