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Believe it or don't, the 1980's game show Catch Phrase is apparently being revived for the U.S. market, per this craigslist ad.
Catch Phrase contestant link (http://\"http://losangeles.craigslist.org/tfr/124703045.html\")
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It's a pilot for Granada Television.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Jan 12 2006, 07:40 PM\']It's a pilot for Granada Television.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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I would love to see some host have a go at saying the "Ready Money Round" (as seen in the UK and the First World's Most Outrageous Game Show Moments special).
Brian
Lasting expressions?
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[quote name=\'brianhenke\' date=\'Jan 12 2006, 08:13 PM\']I would love to see some host have a go at saying the "Ready Money Round" (as seen in the UK and the First World's Most Outrageous Game Show Moments special).
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 12 2006, 11:48 PM\'][quote name=\'brianhenke\' date=\'Jan 12 2006, 08:13 PM\']I would love to see some host have a go at saying the "Ready Money Round" (as seen in the UK and the First World's Most Outrageous Game Show Moments special).
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I'll see your *sigh* and raise an "oy*
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<stares straight into camera, shrugs>
"That's Our Henke!"
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[quote name=\'Game Show Man\' date=\'Jan 12 2006, 07:19 PM\']Believe it or don't, the 1980's game show Catch Phrase is apparently being revived for the U.S. market, per this craigslist ad.
Catch Phrase contestant link (http://\"http://losangeles.craigslist.org/tfr/124703045.html\")
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Anybody wants to take bets on if this will sell? I'm hoping yes, but the dichotomy of television may or may not give us light.
All the best, and hopefully it will sell.
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[quote name=\'Strikerz04\' date=\'Jan 12 2006, 09:23 PM\']All the best, and hopefully it will sell.
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Unless, of course, it sucks. Then it should not sell.
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Thing is, it was too early back in 1985. Watching graphics being drawn on a C64? Not very fun. Had they waited a couple of years, it might have worked out better. I like the concept (and it's beautifully used in the old board game "Whatzit?") but I'm suspicious. If it makes it, I'll happily watch, assuming it doesn't get programmed in Seattle at 7:30 at night. If it quietly goes away, I won't be surprised.
So, either way.
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When I was younger, we would do the little puzzles (known as "plexers") in class, and I always thought it would be a great idea for a game show. Little did I know that I was about six years too late. ;-)
I wish it the best though.
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It's nice to see an 80's show try to make a "comeback" if you will. Sure the animations were kinda awkward back then, but they made the show what it was. Now that it's 2006, with technology capable of rendering 3-D graphics, if the animations are drawn smoothly & look visually brilliant, this might have a shot of making it even though we're fast approaching NAPTE territory now. I wish Catch Phrase all the luck it can get.
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Hey can anyone tell me which came first.
The US or UK version of Catchphrase I know both had Mr Chips so im wondering if hes going home or not ;)
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[quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Jan 13 2006, 08:47 AM\']Hey can anyone tell me which came first.
The US or UK version of Catchphrase I know both had Mr Chips so im wondering if hes going home or not ;)
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The US version's mascot was named Herbie, not Mr. Chips, as I recall.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 13 2006, 02:54 PM\'][quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Jan 13 2006, 08:47 AM\']Hey can anyone tell me which came first.
The US or UK version of Catchphrase I know both had Mr Chips so im wondering if hes going home or not ;)
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The US version's mascot was named Herbie, not Mr. Chips, as I recall.
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Us British are polite.
So his full name is Mr. Herbie Chips ;)
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[quote name=\'Strikerz04\' date=\'Jan 13 2006, 12:23 AM\'][quote name=\'Game Show Man\' date=\'Jan 12 2006, 07:19 PM\']Believe it or don't, the 1980's game show Catch Phrase is apparently being revived for the U.S. market, per this craigslist ad.
Catch Phrase contestant link (http://\"http://losangeles.craigslist.org/tfr/124703045.html\")
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Anybody wants to take bets on if this will sell? I'm hoping yes, but the dichotomy of television may or may not give us light.
All the best, and hopefully it will sell.
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It might sell if the judging is less harsh than it was in '85, and if the computer drawings are better designed. I remember one such example when I saw arrows pointing at lights, and the phrase was "Killing the lights". It might have worked better if someone was shown with a gun actually shooting at lights.
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As long as the snake charmer puzzle is in the pilot, they're golden.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 03:40 AM\']As long as the snake charmer puzzle is in the pilot, they're golden.
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Either that, or if they make the game play more interesting. The puzzles were good, but the whole revealing the picture thing--which was so fresh and interesting on Concentration 30 years earlier--blew.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 11:49 AM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 03:40 AM\']As long as the snake charmer puzzle is in the pilot, they're golden.
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Either that, or if they make the game play more interesting. The puzzles were good, but the whole revealing the picture thing--which was so fresh and interesting on Concentration 30 years earlier--blew.
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Well, it seemed to have worked for all of these years in the UK and in Australia. :)
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 10:49 AM\']Either that, or if they make the game play more interesting. The puzzles were good, but the whole revealing the picture thing--which was so fresh and interesting on Concentration 30 years earlier--blew.
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Host: You've solved the toss-up Catch Phrase, so now you get to try and solve the Super Catch Phrase for the money in the bank. Go ahead and smack that button when you feel lucky...
<smack!>
Host: OK, we won't show what's behind that square. You have five seconds to guess the Catch Phrase...
Contestant: But there's nothing revealed...
<buzz!>
Host: Ooh, sorry, time's up. Let's go to our 13th toss-up Catch Phrase of the round...
How are they supposed to reveal the puzzle? All at once? That would make for a silly game.
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When I was younger, we would do the little puzzles (known as "plexers") in class, and I always thought it would be a great idea for a game show. Little did I know that I was about six years too late. ;-)
LOL...actually, our local HS quizzer (The Long Island Challenge) had a CP-esque round in the game during its 1st season, but it was dropped after that when they decided to make it strictly a Q&A show.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 03:19 PM\']How are they supposed to reveal the puzzle? All at once? That would make for a silly game.
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Come on, use your imagination! For example, the dollar value of each catch phrase could be determined by a giant slot machine. The host could say, "As you know, 'The Joker's Wild' is a game of visual puzzles."
Or getting a catch phrase right gives you the chance to roll giant dice, or capture a hexagon to go side to side on a big board, or drop a Plinko chip. Or, preferably, something exciting and new.
And I can't explain the Brits and Aussies, although I did see "Burgo's Catch Phrase" down under. Apparently when it's raining and they can't surf, they'll watch anything.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jan 18 2006, 12:30 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 03:19 PM\']How are they supposed to reveal the puzzle? All at once? That would make for a silly game.
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Come on, use your imagination! For example, the dollar value of each catch phrase could be determined by a giant slot machine. The host could say, "As you know, 'The Joker's Wild' is a game of visual puzzles."
Or getting a catch phrase right gives you the chance to roll giant dice, or capture a hexagon to go side to side on a big board, or drop a Plinko chip. Or, preferably, something exciting and new.
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That idea sucks. Plain and simple. (Sorry for the bluntness...had nothing to work with.)
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 11:30 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 03:19 PM\']How are they supposed to reveal the puzzle? All at once? That would make for a silly game.
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Come on, use your imagination! For example, the dollar value of each catch phrase could be determined by a giant slot machine. The host could say, "As you know, 'The Joker's Wild' is a game of visual puzzles."
Or getting a catch phrase right gives you the chance to roll giant dice, or capture a hexagon to go side to side on a big board, or drop a Plinko chip. Or, preferably, something exciting and new.
And I can't explain the Brits and Aussies, although I did see "Burgo's Catch Phrase" down under. Apparently when it's raining and they can't surf, they'll watch anything.
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I heard it involved a row of seven catch phrases. Who ever gets the last one wins.
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[quote name=\'GPeefalt\' date=\'Jan 18 2006, 10:38 AM\']I heard it involved a row of seven catch phrases. Who ever gets the last one wins.
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The bowling buddy speaks?
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Jan 18 2006, 02:08 PM\']The bowling buddy speaks?
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Oh.....do I get to award Randy his first ever WHOOSH?
Or am I reading too much into GPee's pretty funny comment? In which case, Randy can award me a WHOOSH right back, followed by a "DumbAss".
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Actually, the basics of the game are that you'll see the phrase in three sections.. the first section will setup the scene, the second give you a little more towards solving the puzzle, and the third will moreless give the puzzle away.
The reason that I know this was that I was contacted to put together a team of FLASH people in order to develop the puzzles for the pilot show.. but due to "Hollywood Politics" (as best as I can put it) we were taken off the project.
So close.. yet so far away. :)
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jan 18 2006, 05:30 AM\']Although I did see "Burgo's Catch Phrase" down under. Apparently when it's raining and they can't surf, they'll watch anything.
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Didnt Burgo's version have three contenstants instead of two? and was Mr Chips (Yellow Robot) in Aussie to?
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There is no truth to the rumor that there will be a new feature on CP called "Mr. Chips' Clips."
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Jan 18 2006, 03:41 PM\'][quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Jan 18 2006, 02:08 PM\']The bowling buddy speaks?
Randy
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Oh.....do I get to award Randy his first ever WHOOSH?
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I thought the same thing. Then I thought, "Who am I to correct Randy Freakin' West?" ;-)
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Different person. Randy Freakin' West is the porno actor.
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Let the "whooshing" begin!!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 19 2006, 09:44 AM\']There is no truth to the rumor that there will be a new feature on CP called "Mr. Chips' Clips."
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Five points to Jimmy for correctly recognizing my reference and a ten point bonus for the improvement. :-)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 19 2006, 10:14 AM\']Different person. Randy Freakin' West is the porno actor.[/quote]
[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Jan 19 2006, 12:11 PM\']Let the "whooshing" begin!![/quote]
Oh, my.
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Does anyone know if this pilot actually taped, and have any details?
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[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 08:23 AM\']Does anyone know if this pilot actually taped, and have any details?
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No "whoosh" here! Todd Newton hosted the pilot. It taped a couple of months ago and looks good.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 12:09 PM\'][quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 08:23 AM\']Does anyone know if this pilot actually taped, and have any details?
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No "whoosh" here! Todd Newton hosted the pilot. It taped a couple of months ago and looks good.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Thanks for the info Randy!
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:09 PM\'][quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 08:23 AM\']Does anyone know if this pilot actually taped, and have any details?
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No "whoosh" here! Todd Newton hosted the pilot. It taped a couple of months ago and looks good.
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That screams "GSN Pickup". I'm putting 10 bucks into the kitty, saying "Lingo/CatchPhrase" hour this fall.
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:09 PM\']Todd Newton hosted the pilot.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:04 PM\'][quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:09 PM\']Todd Newton hosted the pilot.
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Mark Odor, ladies and gentlemen.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 04:10 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:04 PM\'][quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:09 PM\']Todd Newton hosted the pilot.
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Oh, great.
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Mark Odor, ladies and gentlemen.
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Ah, so only Chris Lemon is allowed to have dismissive opinions on game show news.
Quoting you directly from the Game Show Marathon (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10159&st=0&p=113160&#entry113160\") thread:
I'm still holding out hope that by "hosting" they mean "presiding over things and then pitching it to a real host when it's time to actually play the game."
Unfortunately, the article doesn't seen to bear that out. Yeesh. I'll still watch and hope I'm wrong, but the potential for embarrassing suckage is there.
So, you can make negative comments, and I can't, based on the fact you don't like some posts I've made in the past?
Let's not go down that road.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:16 PM\']Ah, so only Chris Lemon is allowed to have dismissive opinions on game show news.
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Ya know, I'd respond to this if it wasn't coming from someone who has made a cottage industry out of being pissed off at....well, everything. So I won't.
And since this is being steered off topic, I shall comment that I'm looking forward to Catch Phrase coming back a great deal. If it's done right I think it could be pretty neat.
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Instead of sweeping generalizations, let's tackle things point by point.
* I never got to see Catch Phrase in its original run. I didn't know the show existed until years later and I saw the entry in the GSE. And even then, I didn't know how freakin' neat a concept it was until I saw the clips of it on the various "Moments" specials or video clips. So I for one am jacked to see that it's moving forward.
* If the producers are telling him to play things more low-key than they were on "Whammy!", then he'll be fine. He was actually good on "Hollywood Showdown," he's only doing what the folks backstage want the host to look like. That said, I wouldn't want that caricature anywhere near a show I was producing.
* So, why aren't we hearing from more people about this? The naysayer who complain that there aren't any new game shows anymore, and so on. And this is looking to be on GSN, too! I know there are tons of people who complain that GSN doesn't have enough original programming. Guess what? This would do nicely. If it does pair up with "Lingo," so much the better for both shows.
I'm surprised at the low level of excitement here, especially in a group of game show fans.
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The low level of excitement has to do with the large number of past game show pilots that did not get picked up. I will get excited when it is a firm go.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 04:16 PM\']Ah, so only Chris Lemon is allowed to have dismissive opinions on game show news.
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So, you can make negative comments, and I can't, based on the fact you don't like some posts I've made in the past?
Let me put this as diplomatically as I can, Mark: if having dismissive opinions or making negative comments were not allowed, you would have committed just over three thousand bannable offenses by now.
There is a world of difference between the level of negativity in a particular opinion and the frequency of said negative opinions.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 01:34 PM\']The low level of excitement has to do with the large number of past game show pilots that did not get picked up. I will get excited when it is a firm go.
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And if it is a "firm go", please list all of the cable companies that will carry GSN to air the show.
(Little blast from the past for some folks here. :))
Seriously, I agree, but the last few pilots GSN has put together have been, well, unpromising. The last one I can think of is that weird Scrabble thing that seemed too complicated for most folks. (Which made me sad, as I love Scrabble, despite the fact that I am perfectly awful at it.)
This one....well, kinda hard to screw up, to be honest. Even if you don't like Newton, he doesn't really have that much to do, so that's fine. And with computer graphics having improved greatly in 20 years, the puzzles are very likely easier to put together (Flash movies, anyone?) and would look that much better.
I'm confident.
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Catch Phrase isn't GSN. It wasn't shot for a particular network.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 06:14 PM\']Catch Phrase isn't GSN. It wasn't shot for a particular network.
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Well, that blows.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 06:14 PM\']Catch Phrase isn't GSN. It wasn't shot for a particular network.
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Then the crew behind this is a little late. NATPE was in January booking stuff for the fall. Unless GSN picks this up, don't expect this show to see the light of day until Fall 07, IF it sees the light of day at all.
PS. Yes, I fully accept that a Pax/Spike/Nick/BET/DuMont like network could buy the show for air earlier.... but c'mon people, what network wants a game show these days for it's programming?
PPS. I'm rooting for this show to succeed. But i'm also cognizant of the fact the for it to succeed, it has to be seen by the right audience. Jamming this on USA/TNT/FX/Food so it can get buried in overnights a month later isn't what a new game show needs to survive.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 07:52 PM\']Then the crew behind this is a little late. NATPE was in January booking stuff for the fall. Unless GSN picks this up, don't expect this show to see the light of day until Fall 07, IF it sees the light of day at all.
PPS. I'm rooting for this show to succeed. But i'm also cognizant of the fact the for it to succeed, it has to be seen by the right audience. Jamming this on USA/TNT/FX/Food so it can get buried in overnights a month later isn't what a new game show needs to survive.
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2.5 questions...more like a question and 1.5 observations...
1) Is it too late for the show to be pitched for winter 2007, say January? Yes, I know most midseason syndie games never made it past the end of their second season. Hell, the only one I can think of was Crosswits and that was three decades ago. (No, Zach, I don't want a full list, I'm just making a point)
2) I'm rooting for it to succeed too (was only 2 when the original premiered), and I'm not trying to complain, but I know exactly where this is going with GSN. 13 weeks of new episodes, a year of reruns, then maybe a second season if it gets the ratings. GSN has been good with Lingo, but there's been other shows with far too much potential that started the same time as Lingo, and should still be on (Russian Roulette, Whammy--yes Whammy)
2.5) To be honest, I'd rather have syndication, even if it is another year-and-a-half wait. Better audience and exposure, and if it does well, better shot of renewal without waiting a long time like with GSN.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 09:28 PM\']2.5 questions...more like a question and 1.5 observations...
1) Is it too late for the show to be pitched for winter 2007, say January? Yes, I know most midseason syndie games never made it past the end of their second season. Hell, the only one I can think of was Crosswits and that was three decades ago. (No, Zach, I don't want a full list, I'm just making a point)
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Jan bookings don't happen much anymore...Weaklink did it, because it was fast tracked after a strong January premiere, and NBC was behind the syndie selling...they took it first to their affiliates, then let the rest fight it out.... so, in effect, NAPTE selling wasn't necessary (this, BTW, is happening more and more, thanks to the corporate consolidation of America)
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 09:28 PM\']2) I'm rooting for it to succeed too (was only 2 when the original premiered), and I'm not trying to complain, but I know exactly where this is going with GSN. 13 weeks of new episodes, a year of reruns, then maybe a second season if it gets the ratings. GSN has been good with Lingo, but there's been other shows with far too much potential that started the same time as Lingo, and should still be on (Russian Roulette, Whammy--yes Whammy)
2.5) To be honest, I'd rather have syndication, even if it is another year-and-a-half wait. Better audience and exposure, and if it does well, better shot of renewal without waiting a long time like with GSN.
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The problem with that is there is no guarantee that there will be a second season of shows in syndie....and with syndie ratings being what they are lately, i'm not so sure getting lost in the syndie marketplace is better than a home on a tailormade network that will at least promote it for the better part of that year....
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There is another possibility--MyNetworkTV. As of now, they are planning to strip everything and they need backups if the two novelas strands tank. I don't know if they're looking for a companion to "America's Brainiest" (if that does go series), but it could happen.
And My looks more like a go--they picked up KRON in San Francisco yesterday, the biggest VHF station outside of the Fox-owned stations to sign up so far. There's nothing available for "Catch Phrase" on that net/platform/whatever until January, but it is a possibility.