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Now we all know that most contestants aren't rooting for their opponents deep down, but as I was watching CS today, I noticed a contestant who got way too excited each time her opponent failed. To the point where after a contestant flipped a 2 over after a 3, Bill says "Oh, that hurts", to which the contestant screams and cheers and says "That doesn't hurt at all!
I'm curious as to the general opinion of the group as to whether something like this is considered bad sportsmanship, or just getting excited about your own fortunes. Needless to say, it caused me to root against this contestant.
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I noticed a contestant who got way too excited each time her opponent failed. To the point where after a contestant flipped a 2 over after a 3, Bill says "Oh, that hurts", to which the contestant screams and cheers and says "That doesn't hurt at all!
Maybe she was just a little too excited to be there ?!
If I was on the show, I probably wouldn't be as vocal about it but just feel happy inside that luck has turned my way; but is this kind of thing much different than a contestant rooting for the whammy on "Press Your Luck", and getting excited when your opponent actually hits the whammy? (I saw that sort of thing many times). Or does it depend on what kind of show you were on how much "happiness" you can show when your opponent loses?
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I find it utterly reprehensible in any form on any show. (See: strike markers on CBS' Feud, as well as "Bad answer!" and the like)
When's the last time you saw someone clap for a "Bankrupt" on Wheel? Or do the Ickey Woods Shuffle after a FJ! miss? There's a difference between wanting to win for yourself, and gloating over your opponent's misfortune. Not only do you look like a total ass, well, actually, that's it. It just makes that player look really bad. And on TV, no less.
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Encouragement to root against your opponent is the one thing I don't like about the Combs Feud. Not cool.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 5 2006, 03:13 PM\']Encouragement to root against your opponent is the one thing I don't like about the Combs Feud. Not cool.
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But, encouragement to root against your opponent on the Dawson Feud I wholeheartedly endorse.
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And to offer a conflicting view:
There is CASH MONEY on the line.
Would I do the "Noonan! Miss it! Miss!" thing? Probably not. Would I feel one iota of guilt over the schaudenfreude of seeing someone call lower than a King for the match in the tiebreaker and handing it to me when an Ace comes up? Hells NO.
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Admittedly, I haven't seen them all, but I don't recall seeing poor sportsmanship on Dawson Feud. Generally opponents were in a huddle when the other team was answering. Rooting was for your family, not against the other family. They changed that on Combs Feud.
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For some reason, rooting against your opponents and catcalling in a semi-friendly manner doesn't bother me nearly as much in team games like Family Feud and The Better Sex. Now, if you're talking smack to your opponent on, say, Child's Play, then you're pretty much a douchebag.
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Jan 5 2006, 04:13 PM\']Now, if you're talking smack to your opponent on, say, Child's Play, then you're pretty much a douchebag.
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You six-year-old dumbass!! What kind of ^&*%ing clue is that?
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See, sometimes I think there's a very fine line between rooting for yourself (which would include some rooting against your opponent), and being an ass.
On PYL, one could say that the contestant is really just yelling at the board, which they were encouraged to do.
I think we all know that contestants are rooting against their opponent deep down, but how vocal should you make that?
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Who's idea was it for opposing families to heckle each other on Combs' Feud?
It seemed to me that Ray himself was egging the families to get each other's goats.
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I'm reminded of the pilot week of Lange's Name That Tune with the extremely obnoxious guy in Bid-A-Note:
Opponent: "I can name that tune in 3 notes"
Obnoxious: "I'm shaking! I'm sweating!"
At some level it was funny, but it just got annoying pretty quickly.
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I know World Series of Poker is SOOOOO not a game show, but when I read this topic, I instantly thought of Mike the Mouth Matusow. If you're lucky enough to suck out, I believe you should be happy and relieved, but that you should keep that to yourself.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 5 2006, 04:00 PM\']Admittedly, I haven't seen them all, but I don't recall seeing poor sportsmanship on Dawson Feud. Generally opponents were in a huddle when the other team was answering. Rooting was for your family, not against the other family. They changed that on Combs Feud.
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It seemed to be around 1991 or 1992 when the show started to lose ground when the "bad sportsmanship" started to be seen on Combs Feud. I don't see how Goodson(who was still alive) or even Howard Felsher(despite his less-than-friendly disposition, if the E! special is to be believed) would allow this to continue on Feud.
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I'm reminded of the pilot week of Lange's Name That Tune with the extremely obnoxious guy in Bid-A-Note:
Opponent: "I can name that tune in 3 notes"
Obnoxious: "I'm shaking! I'm sweating!"
Ah, the infamous Alfred...and to top it off, he won the game. Luckily, he didn't duplicate his success in the Golden Medley, where he was stumped by "Every Breath You Take" by the Police.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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I was never bothered by the opposing team being discouraging on Combs Feud. Maybe it had something to do with being an opposing force to Uncle Ned's family feeling like they had to say "good answer!" even when he was singlehandedly bringing down the team.
I think you actually see a lot of Bankrupts applauded on Wheel of Fortune, but that's because you see absolutely everything applauded on Wheel of Fortune.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jan 5 2006, 10:13 PM\']I think you actually see a lot of Bankrupts applauded on Wheel of Fortune, but that's because you see absolutely everything applauded on Wheel of Fortune.
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If I may refer to another show.... $20,000! <clapclapclapclapclap>
Yeah, you're right. We wouldn't be human beings if we didn't have that streak of greed in us, and while it may not show with some people, believe you and me it's there, we all want to win and some are willing to go all out while some are more reserved in how they behave during the game. It all depends on the personality of the contestant. OTOH, if it's encouraged by a producer, I think I'd find a new producer. But, that's just my opinion.
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So, people are actually disgusted when they see feuding on the Feud?
Tres ironique, n'est-ce pas?
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Jan 5 2006, 10:35 PM\']So, people are actually disgusted when they see feuding on the Feud?[/quote]
New for the 2006-07 season: shotguns!
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jan 5 2006, 10:42 PM\']New for the 2006-07 season: shotguns!
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If they're used on the production staff and those responsible for D0UBL3 TH3 P01NTS!!!!11!ELEVEN!!BEDBATHANDBEYOND!!!, then I'm all for it.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Jan 5 2006, 07:59 PM\']I know World Series of Poker is SOOOOO not a game show, but when I read this topic, I instantly thought of Mike the Mouth Matusow. ...
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Now that we've degenerated into card games: if "Hollywood" Dave Stann is in the field at the World Series of Blackjack again, is it OK to root against him?
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I've seen a few occasions on TPIR during the Showcase Showdown where the contestant that's standing under the scoreboard that indicates that they're the leader watches the other players spin the Big Wheel. In doing so, sometimes, they do some spinning motion with their hands as a sort of "hex" on the other players for them not making it to the Showcases. Hand gestures like that I don't mind, but if they start to vocalize them at least a few times, then that can get annoying. Unless that vocalization yields bad sportsmanship, that sort of thing is tolerated on that show.
Also, I seen to recall after a player won their game on PYL, one of the losers actually cursed on the air. It definitely would be grounds for bad sportsmanship if it was directly at that player.
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Jan 6 2006, 03:36 AM\']In doing so, sometimes, they do some spinning motion with their hands as a sort of "hex" on the other players for them not making it to the Showcases. [/quote]
I think the appropriate word may be "disconcertion". As a basketball official...its interesting to see this topic...similar situations occur on the court as well.
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This actually happened on Price just yesterday, during the second Showcase Showdown. The third spinner got 80 in one spin, tying the leader, and as Bob was explaining her options, she very nearly spun again until he all but grabbed her back from the wheel. After she was convinced to have a spin-off, the other contestant apologized, and Bob discovered that he was the one who had advised her to spin again...which sounds bad enough until you realize that she nearly listened to him!
Bad sportsmanship? Absolutely, but it was damn funny...and between his "advice" and her almost spinning on 80, I wasn't sure I wanted either one of them to get into the Showcase. :-P
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Jan 6 2006, 03:50 AM\']I think the appropriate word may be "disconcertion". As a basketball official...its interesting to see this topic...similar situations occur on the court as well.[/quote]
As a fellow basketball official, I'm now having visions of the player under the scoreboard and the next spinner both with their arms in the air, wiggling their fingers, causing the spinner to wind up and miss the wheel entirely. :-p
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' date=\'Jan 5 2006, 07:53 PM\']I'm reminded of the pilot week of Lange's Name That Tune with the extremely obnoxious guy in Bid-A-Note:
Opponent: "I can name that tune in 3 notes"
Obnoxious: "I'm shaking! I'm sweating!"
At some level it was funny, but it just got annoying pretty quickly.
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From the final aired Lange NTT TofC, the semi-final game with Les Gould and Tammy Warner had some less than stellar sportsmanship by Les. The Golden Medley SHowdown was tied with one second left on the clock, and the score going into the round was such that whomever won the round moved onto the finals. Les names the next tune, Jim then announces he won, Les ignores Tammy's congratulatory handshake, jumps around the stage, etc. He then finds out that the second hadn't elapsed from the clock yet. No one named the next tune, so Les wins. Tammy can fill in with more backstage details if she wants.
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I'm curious if most contestant coordinators would cut players who exhibit this type of behavior, or if it is/was accepted on some shows (PYL, Combs Feud, Street Smarts), or even, possibly, applauded.
I can kind of see why some would allow this, making the argument that it may make for more exciting TV, for the same way wrestling has its heels, and Poker has Phil Hellmuth or Mike Matusow.
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Jan 6 2006, 03:36 AM\']
Also, I seen to recall after a player won their game on PYL, one of the losers actually cursed on the air. It definitely would be grounds for bad sportsmanship if it was directly at that player.
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Ahh yes, the infamous Jim Hess. He also cursed when he got a third whammy in the first round.
I thought it was bad gamesmanship in that episode when Sam passed from third place (God only knows why...) to Jim, and Jim said sarcastically, "Thanks a lot," and shot such a dirty look. After that, Jim whammied and screamed, "Geeze, f*ck, sh!t!" To me, I always thought he directed that obscenity towards Sam for passing the spin from third place, when he should have spun again, and that always made me think, "I'm glad he lost..."
While we're on this, you see this kind if stuff going on moreso on PYL, but it seems more like playful banter by doing the "whammy hex" hand movement, or something silly like that. Once in a while, you see players chanting, "Whammy, Whammy" ... but it seems more like good-natured ribbing and fun there. It sounds like it's much more of a laid-back atmosphere on that show than most others. That's my two pence.
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[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' date=\'Jan 6 2006, 06:33 PM\']I'm curious if most contestant coordinators would cut players who exhibit this type of behavior, or if it is/was accepted on some shows (PYL, Combs Feud, Street Smarts), or even, possibly, applauded.
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If you think Skyler Stone got any of his game show gigs for being anything other than a complete asshat, you're not thinking.