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The DoND online game is up and running on the NBC website. Thoughts, opinions?
BTW, here's a link:
CLICK HERE (http://\"http://www.nbc.com/Deal_or_No_Deal/game/\")
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Well apparently, the bank offers on our version will be absolutely outrageous. The first one I got was around $25,000. I ended up settling for about $91,000 but my briefcase had $300,000 in it. From what I can tell, this is gonna be one heck of a show.
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I'm curious to see how it plays out on the show... I was left with $300K, $500K and $1Mill... turned down banker's $541K. Played on, knocked out the $300K, but the offer went down to $535 500 or so. Odd. Had the half mill in the end.
Fun game to kill some time :) The French board game has an automated banker in it, wonder how that would turn out.
Ryan :)
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I don't know what it says about my luck or karma or whatever, but I played it one time and the suitcase I chose had the penny.
The bank offers seem pretty high, but there's no way to know yet whether the web game is using anything close to the same standards that the actual show will.
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On my first try, I took a deal for $165K after the 4th-to-last case was revealed...had I stuck w/my case, it would've been a mere $25K. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Lucky "Chuckie Baby")
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Did anyone else think the cue for revealing the deal amount sounded like the question reveal cue on Greed?
I played a few times and did pretty well. One time I bailed out with about $123,000, and the two cases left ended up being $750K and $1M two rounds later; my case was the $750K.
If the deal amounts we see here are comparable to what we'll see on the show, it looks like contestants, if they play smart, should leave with a good 5+ figure sum of money. I'm looking forward to watching the show!
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Hey, I have an idea! Let's EVERY ONE OF US post how we did when we played the game!
From the sounds of it, if the contestants are BREATHING, they should be able to get out with 5 figures.
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I wouldn't start betting the house that this in any way reflects how the show will calculate the deals.
Namely, I was sitting with $500K and $750K, and was given an offer of $430K.
They may end up giving away TOO much money, though, with the values the way they sit now. Wouldn't surprise me to see the hill climb on the money tree get steeper if this lasts on any sort of long-term scale.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:07 PM\']Hey, I have an idea! Let's EVERY ONE OF US post how we did when we played the game![/quote]
I've heard of sand in one's vagina. This is a case of someone having the frickin' Sahara.
Chris, I would insist you take the advice you offer Mark--please, get laid.
ObDoND: I hit the penny earlier as well. I'll split a Necco wafer with ya, Matt. And I can attest to the weird offers as well. In one case, I had $10, $75, and $500K left. After getting rid of the $10, my offer decreased.
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 05:17 PM\']I've heard of sand in one's vagina. This is a case of someone having the frickin' Sahara.
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Fair enough. It's just that everytime one of these threads comes up, we get like sixteen thousand silly posts from people who want to post how they did, followed by someone crowing loudly that they "won", like it actually means something in a game like this. I think it's silly. But you have a point too, it doesn't hurt anything, so I'll just take myself and my sandy vagina and back out the door slowly.
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:17 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:07 PM\']Hey, I have an idea! Let's EVERY ONE OF US post how we did when we played the game![/quote]
I've heard of sand in one's vagina. This is a case of someone having the frickin' Sahara.
Chris, I would insist you take the advice you offer Mark--please, get laid.
ObDoND: I hit the penny earlier as well. I'll split a Necco wafer with ya, Matt. And I can attest to the weird offers as well. In one case, I had $10, $75, and $500K left. After getting rid of the $10, my offer decreased.
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Yeah, really. You need to get laid about 37 times, Lemon.
Anyway, this is one addicting game. I've lost the million each damn time but it's still fun. I too, infact hit the penny as well, but right after that, I hit 750K.
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[quote name=\'cacLA8383\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:24 PM\']Yeah, really. You need to get laid about 37 times, Lemon.
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Personally, I'd love to know how you calculated the exact number. :-)
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:17 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:07 PM\']Hey, I have an idea! Let's EVERY ONE OF US post how we did when we played the game![/quote]
I've heard of sand in one's vagina. This is a case of someone having the frickin' Sahara.
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"Like sands through Lemon's vagina, these are the Days of Our Lives..." Nope, doesn't really work.
I'd better stop before some NBC programmer reads this and decides that he has a replacement for Deal or No Deal. ;-)
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[quote name=\'cool245\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 10:15 PM\']BTW: Deal or No Deal premieres on Monday on NBC at 8-9pm and airs Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday as well.
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BTW, we knew that.
This game is actually pretty fun...a decent time killer, and better than the other version by far.
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[quote name=\'cacLA8383\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 05:24 PM\']Yeah, really. You need to get laid about 37 times, Lemon.
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In a row?
/I thank yew
//alternate answer: "Oh, I have. And by the way, Trebek, your mother's a screamer!" :)
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:27 PM\'][quote name=\'cacLA8383\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:24 PM\']Yeah, really. You need to get laid about 37 times, Lemon.
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Personally, I'd love to know how you calculated the exact number. :-)
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Don't hit the button until you're ready to stop the Range Finder because we can't start it again until Lemon gets laid 37 times....which might take 37 years..... ;)
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I think the game sucks. ;) In my first 8 cases, 6 were $100,000 or greater. I ended with 2 final cases of $.01 and $75, and a bank offer of $38.
Hopefully that never happens on the show, that makes for less than exciting TV.
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Have to agree with Mark. I can deal with the pure luck aspect, but it seems the big problem will come when all the big cases are gone early. I wonder if there is some kink thrown into the actual show in case this happens?
Also...anyone else notice that the bank offer SFX is the "question reveal" from Greed? Wonder whose GS website they got that from...
--Sam
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I chickened out once the $1M case was removed, so I stopped at $27K. Should've kept going because I was holding the $200K case. Oh well.
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The game is a bore. Like many people have said before, it's just no fun when there's nothing truly on the line.
That and the lame-ass sound effects ripped off from On-Air clips of Greed, the lack of music make this a polished version of the more primitive version of an online DonD game already posted.
Douglas
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[quote name=\'TalkingHeadsFan\' date=\'Dec 16 2005, 09:26 AM\']The game is a bore. Like many people have said before, it's just no fun when there's nothing truly on the line.
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Be careful. Disparaging the good name of DoND as a social game played for fun and no money tends to get you labelled around here.
(...and at some other places, too.)
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You know where the 37 came from....
The banker.
Still a lot of cases left...
You could get laid up to a hundred times...or for about half a minute.
What'll it be, Chris....
37
Deal...or No Deal???
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Well boys and girls, I took the liberty of breaking into the DOND game on the NBC website to see how things were calculated, and here's the rough overview..
The board is divided into two tiers: the LOWER tier (consisting of all values under $100,000), and the UPPER tier ($100,000 and above).
In order to calculate the bank's offer, you need to know the "official percentages" of the show. To keep it simple until we figure out if they use the same numbers on the US version, I'll play out something from the Dutch version [which, BTW, is where this game originally was used - it's even got the MILJOENEN JACHT logo in the game].
In Round 1, the percentages are 5% and 6%. So the player eliminated 4 cases ($1, $10, $100, and the $5,000,000), to give the tier totals of $176575.71 and $5000000 respectively.
The sum of the LOWER tier is multiplied by the first percentage (5%) to make [8829].. then the sum of the UPPER tier is multiplied by both percentages (5% * 6% = .3%) to make [15000].
These are added together to make the bank's "offer" of, in this case, $23,829 (as confirmed with the show in question).
The programmers of the DOND game actually made a mistake.. they miswrote the array of percentages.. so the online game actually starts with the percentages for Round 2 in Round 1.
I've tested the formula with the Dutch show, and it works well.. but so far I haven't hit the Aussie ones on the head yet - likely using a a different TIER FACTOR.. [okay, it's a bad NBC joke.. ]
I've had our own FLASHGames² version in the works, but since it seems they aren't in need of that now, maybe I'll convert it into a "Banker Calculator" to play along with the show.. :D
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[quote name=\'MrGameShow\' date=\'Dec 16 2005, 10:57 PM\']Well boys and girls, I took the liberty of breaking into the DOND game on the NBC website to see how things were calculated, and here's the rough overview..[/quote]
Good heavens. I just finished up my coursework for my math major and my head is spinning from your description. (Trust me, it's not your description that's making me loopy. It's all those damn numbers--percentages, sums, carry the 1, pi r squared, integrate both sides of the equation...)
I knew I should've stuck with my original major--undecided.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Dec 16 2005, 09:45 PM\']You know where the 37 came from....
The banker.
Still a lot of cases left...
You could get laid up to a hundred times...or for about half a minute.
What'll it be, Chris....
37
Deal...or No Deal???
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There's your Line of the Day folks....a late posting for yesterday, or should we give em' credit for today? Even better....let's just make this the LINE OF THE WEEKEND!!!!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 15 2005, 08:23 PM\']It's just that everytime one of these threads comes up, we get like sixteen thousand silly posts from people who want to post how they did, followed by someone crowing loudly that they "won", like it actually means something in a game like this.
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I WON! I WON! I WON!
Err...
Hm.
Sorry.
Actually, I'm kidding. I can't get the fakakta thing to load. It stops short when it shows "100% loaded." Anyone else have this problem?
EDIT: Got it working. I right-clicked and chose "Play" in the Flash window... and a mock game sped by, with text in Dutch, no less. When the loop finished, I was able to play as normal.
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[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 11:35 AM\']Actually, I'm kidding. I can't get the fakakta thing to load. It stops short when it shows "100% loaded." Anyone else have this problem?
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Just refresh the page.. yet another "glitch" in the reprogramming stage.. they forgot to tell the game to move forward after loaded.. LOL - you'd never see a FLASHGame do that ;)
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[quote name=\'MrGameShow\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 03:57 AM\']In order to calculate the bank's offer, you need to know the "official percentages" of the show.
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That's very interesting, actually.
All I know is that in the Brit show, the computer spits out an upper and lower figure using formulae and the banker picks a figure between those two numbers depending on how he feels. I would have assumed the same forumlae were being used for all versions. The computer version will obviously not be able to weigh in with psychological factors, but it's not a massive leap to suggest that the actual figues on television are worked out with these formulae and the boundaries set at plusminus twenty percent either side of the figure, say.
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[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 10:35 AM\']Actually, I'm kidding. I can't get the fakakta thing to load. It stops short when it shows "100% loaded." Anyone else have this problem?
EDIT: Got it working. I right-clicked and chose "Play" in the Flash window... and a mock game sped by, with text in Dutch, no less. When the loop finished, I was able to play as normal.
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1. Try the HTML with brackets instead--I think that'll work. Or try the veal.
2. Brownie points for use of the word "fakakta" (prolly not spelled right--but just seeing it in print was enough for a chuckle). Well played. :)
Doug -- and the countdown to 1700 continues
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[quote name=\'TalkingHeadsFan\' date=\'Dec 16 2005, 12:26 PM\']The game is a bore. Like many people have said before, it's just no fun when there's nothing truly on the line.
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I agree. It's mainly a LMAD and TH all in one. DoND will go away after the 5 shows, just like WL.
Charles
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[quote name=\'catkins522\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 01:45 PM\']I agree. It's mainly a LMAD and TH all in one. DoND will go away after the 5 shows, just like WL.
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I think it's important to differentiate here between people's opinions of the game when played for fun and when it's being played for real live money. I seem to have gotten a rep from a few people quick to make a knee-jerk judgment who think I hate the game wholesale and without exception. Not true. I think it's a dismally boring game when no money is involved. But then, so's poker. As a GAMBLING game, which is what we will be seeing this week, I think it has great potential to be both entertaining and awfully compelling television.
So I think condemning the game itself to failure based solely on the game itself, and not how it's presented on television or the emotions that all of that money will no doubt bring to the surface, is awfully short-sighted.
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vtown7 mentioned that there is a french board game, how does the automated banker work? and what is the name of the game, i'm going over to paris soon.
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At the risk of sounding like a wuss, I played the DoND game on line several times. After I got the hang of it, I started playing like it was real..and found it quite nerve-wracking. We'll have to see how Howie is at creating suspense. As a couple of people have said, you have to hope the big money doesn't disappear too fast - but I'm looking forward to the show. It's Let's Make A Deal meets Treasure Hunt. If it creates a "what would I do?" feel at home, it may do well.
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[quote name=\'catkins522\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 04:45 PM\']
I agree. It's mainly a LMAD and TH all in one. DoND will go away after the 5 shows, just like WL.
Charles
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Well, thanks to Chucky for that analysis. I'm going to believe him, cancel the TIVO, and free up 5 hours of time that can instead go to surfing the net for porn.
Or, a better idea, how about we wait and watch the f'ing show before we make an assessment.
Because this little kid seems to make his directives on good tv based on an internet site, makes me think he'd be perfect for a job as a network programming executive. Or a toll booth operator.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 10:25 PM\'][quote name=\'catkins522\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 04:45 PM\']
I agree. It's mainly a LMAD and TH all in one. DoND will go away after the 5 shows, just like WL.
Charles
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Well, thanks to Chucky for that analysis. I'm going to believe him, cancel the TIVO, and free up 5 hours of time that can instead go to surfing the net for porn.
Or, a better idea, how about we wait and watch the f'ing show before we make an assessment.
Because this little kid seems to make his directives on good tv based on an internet site, makes me think he'd be perfect for a job as a network programming executive. Or a toll booth operator.
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His past might suggest a network censor... *ducks*
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[quote name=\'pyramid100\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 07:44 PM\']vtown7 mentioned that there is a french board game, how does the automated banker work? and what is the name of the game, i'm going over to paris soon.
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Hey pyramid - I don't know how it works but apparently it's quite popular... it's pretty costly on eBay right now, as the rumor is that they're sold out in stores.
Enjoy your vacation!
Ryan :)
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At TV Guide.com (http://\"http://www.tvguide.com/TV/HotList/\") there is a 10 minute video highlight reel that shows some gameplay.
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[quote name=\'vtown7\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 12:14 PM\'][quote name=\'pyramid100\' date=\'Dec 17 2005, 07:44 PM\']vtown7 mentioned that there is a french board game, how does the automated banker work? and what is the name of the game, i'm going over to paris soon.
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Hey pyramid - I don't know how it works but apparently it's quite popular... it's pretty costly on eBay right now, as the rumor is that they're sold out in stores.
Enjoy your vacation!
Ryan :)
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Be prepared to pay alot in person, too....For some reason, board games (which, i don't know why, are more popular in Europe than here), cost ALOT. Scrabble will set you back $50, as will most board games...
In Italy last month, i looked at the home version of Deal there, and just couldn't pull the trigger on a purchase of a game in a language i can't decipher, even if the rules are simple..
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 11:05 AM\']For some reason, board games (which, i don't know why, are more popular in Europe than here), cost ALOT. Scrabble will set you back $50, as will most board games...
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That's not at all true, at least not in all cases We buy games from Germany fairly often, and while sometimes there is a premium price, very often a game costs LESS than the equivalent US game does here.
(Which reminds me, I really ought to pull the trigger on a German copy of Traumfabrik...)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 02:56 PM\'][quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 11:05 AM\']For some reason, board games (which, i don't know why, are more popular in Europe than here), cost ALOT. Scrabble will set you back $50, as will most board games...
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That's not at all true, at least not in all cases We buy games from Germany fairly often, and while sometimes there is a premium price, very often a game costs LESS than the equivalent US game does here.
(Which reminds me, I really ought to pull the trigger on a German copy of Traumfabrik...)
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Interesting. A Ravensburger game perhaps? Some of those wooden thinking games are a bit cheaper, but every quiz-show home game was 30-45 euros each....Scrabble and Monopoly too, and just about everything else that I looked at...
Check out ebay for Prendre ou a Laisser (the italian DoND) game and the price is likely to be high.
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Interesting. While it's not a game I'd play online any more than once or twice, it does give a good feel for the gameplay, and I think does a good job at showing that this could be an interesting game show to watch.
I fear the main focus is going to be the models, however. :(
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[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 04:39 PM\']Interesting. While it's not a game I'd play online any more than once or twice, it does give a good feel for the gameplay, and I think does a good job at showing that this could be an interesting game show to watch.
I fear the main focus is going to be the models, however. :(
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Yeah, not like that's a bad thing, though. Really the only "model" that a certain someone on here will pay attention to is one Claudia Jordan. Let's just watch and see what happens and then make a true assessment on the whole gameplay. Chumley, go back to your toll-booth.
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[quote name=\'cacLA8383\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 02:17 PM\']Chumley, go back to your troll-booth.
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There, fixed that for you. ;)
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[quote name=\'cacLA8383\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 05:17 PM\']Really the only "model" that a certain someone on here will pay attention to is one Claudia Jordan.[/quote]
I'm getting help for it! :-P
(and yes, the help is coming from somewhere OTHER than Bed Bath and Beyond)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 02:35 PM\'](and yes, the help is coming from somewhere OTHER than Bed Bath and Beyond)
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Kleenex? :)
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 08:57 PM\']Check out ebay for Prendre ou a Laisser (the italian DoND) game and the price is likely to be high.
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French but that's beside the point (Italian is Affari Tuoi). I just wish one of them would show what the electronic banker and board looks like!
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http://www.nbc.com/Deal_or_No_Deal/game/dond.swf (http://\"http://www.nbc.com/Deal_or_No_Deal/game/dond.swf\")
A few text glitches, but thats ok...For all of you who want to play offline.
Now the really odd part...Open this file in Internet Explorer, right click the game screen and hit "Play". You'll see all sorts of funky stuff happening, then you'll see a quick flash of an odd screen...I was lucky enough to capture the image...
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7540/dond1ow.jpg (http://\"http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7540/dond1ow.jpg\")
Let us speculate.
Doug