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Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: DJDustman on August 23, 2003, 11:40:21 AM
Was there ever a big winner on the syndicated TJW with Jack Barry...Like Thom Mckee?
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: beatlefreak84 on August 23, 2003, 11:54:38 AM
I believe it was stated that this show had a winnings cap of $50,000 for the syndicated version, unlike TTD (can somebody confirm this?), so there couldn't have been any Thom McKees (my guess, if this is true, was to prevent ANY accusations of the show being fixed since most of it is based on the slot machines, unlike TTD, which is the questions).

I do believe that the biggest winner on the syndicated version (not counting the tournaments) won about $60,000 (Zach can probably give you the exact figure), which included two cars.

Honestly, though, this show was a lot harder to establish a good run on anyway since so much was dependent on luck (only on this show could you win, say, 10 games in a row and then lose your 11th all because your opponent spun three jokers!), so I couldn't see any McKee-like runs even without a winnings cap.

Anthony
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: ilb4ever2000 on August 23, 2003, 02:02:35 PM
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I believe it was stated that this show had a winnings cap of $50,000 for the syndicated version, unlike TTD (can somebody confirm this?), so there couldn't have been any Thom McKees (my guess, if this is true, was to prevent ANY accusations of the show being fixed since most of it is based on the slot machines, unlike TTD, which is the questions).

There was only a cap when it was picked up by CBS O&Os (WCBS?). Same goes for TTD, I think.
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: whewfan on August 23, 2003, 02:41:01 PM
The biggest money winner was Joe Dunn, who won in excess of $60k. Following Joe Dunn is Eileen Jacobs, who won a little over $40k, and Hal Shear, who won just under $40k.
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: clemon79 on August 24, 2003, 12:17:40 AM
[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Aug 23 2003, 11:41 AM\'] Hal Shear, who won just under $40k. [/quote]
 Hal, of course, was most notable for the loud 70's jacket he wore on the show, and for the luck that it brought him when he managed to extend his reign by spinning three Jokers on a final spin of the game...maybe if Mike Klauss is watching, and feeling particularly benevolent, he'll put the clip back up on his site for a bit...
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: That Don Guy on August 24, 2003, 12:41:40 AM
[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Aug 23 2003, 10:54 AM\']I believe it was stated that this show had a winnings cap of $50,000 for the syndicated version, unlike TTD (can somebody confirm this?), so there couldn't have been any Thom McKees (my guess, if this is true, was to prevent ANY accusations of the show being fixed since most of it is based on the slot machines, unlike TTD, which is the questions).
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I'm pretty sure that, in one of the early episodes (it may have even been on the first episode itself), Jack said something like, \"Unlike the CBS version, there's no limit; you can win over $100,000, and you get to keep it all\".

-- Don
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: MikeK on August 24, 2003, 02:06:16 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 23 2003, 11:17 PM\'] Hal, of course, was most notable for the loud 70's jacket he wore on the show, and for the luck that it brought him when he managed to extend his reign by spinning three Jokers on a final spin of the game...maybe if Mike Klauss is watching, and feeling particularly benevolent, he'll put the clip back up on his site for a bit... [/quote]
 Since you asked nicely and I'm feeling quite benevolent right now...

http://www.tv-gameshows.com/halshear.rm (http://\"http://www.tv-gameshows.com/halshear.rm\")
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: clemon79 on August 24, 2003, 02:44:20 AM
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Aug 23 2003, 11:06 PM\'] Since you asked nicely and I'm feeling quite benevolent right now...

http://www.tv-gameshows.com/halshear.rm (http://\"http://www.tv-gameshows.com/halshear.rm\") [/quote]
 Thanks, Mike, 'preciate it. :)

For those who haven't seen it, it's worth the download, it's a pretty amazing moment.
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: jrjgames on August 24, 2003, 09:15:42 AM
Didnt they once have a $250,000 Tournament?!  I think I have that on tape!

John
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: GS Warehouse on August 24, 2003, 10:02:19 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 24 2003, 01:44 AM\'] [quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Aug 23 2003, 11:06 PM\'] Since you asked nicely and I'm feeling quite benevolent right now...

http://www.tv-gameshows.com/halshear.rm (http://\"http://www.tv-gameshows.com/halshear.rm\") [/quote]
Thanks, Mike, 'preciate it. :)

For those who haven't seen it, it's worth the download, it's a pretty amazing moment. [/quote]
 I agree.  Thanks Mike.  As long as you're taking requests, I used to have that 1980 clip from CS when Toby got all four threes in a row in the Money Cards, but I lost it in a hard-drive crash last week.  (It's also notable because the buzzer when the last three came up was the closest we'll ever come to hearing that sfx clean.)  There is no hurry, though; you can post it the next time you're feeling benevolent, or the time after that.  All I ask is you don't repost Malcolm first! :-)
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: Don Howard on August 24, 2003, 01:21:17 PM
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The biggest money winner was Joe Dunn, who won in excess of $60k. Following Joe Dunn is Eileen Jacobs, who won a little over $40k, and Hal Shear, who won just under $40k.

Here's my 25 or so year old memory of The Joker's Wild winners list:
After Joe Dunn was Eileen Jason (not Jacobs) who won over $55000 in fifteen wins and went on to beat Frank Dillon--for which I'll never forgive her--in the $250,000 Tournament Of Champions. Hal won whatever he won in 11 victories (the dollar figure escapes me but the $40K or so listed above seems right) while Mark Gluckman racked up around $33000 in 13 championships. Mark didn't have the best of luck when facing the devil. And neither of them had to give a single definition. The biggest Natural Triple Jackpot win I recall is around $26000 or so won by someone who needed three jokers to win the game. He didn't get it, but he did get all the prizes in the Natural Triple Jackpot for spinning three of the same category even though he lost the game by not getting the jokers he needed. This was toward the end of the 1983-84 season.
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: ChuckNet on August 24, 2003, 06:58:46 PM
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The biggest money winner was Joe Dunn, who won in excess of $60k.

However, because of the CBS winnings cap of $50K, he had to forefit about $11K of that, which technically kept him from topping Eileen Jason's $55K+ win.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: ChuckNet on August 24, 2003, 07:01:40 PM
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Didnt they once have a $250,000 Tournament?! I think I have that on tape!

Yep...they a tournament for each of the first 4 syndie seasons, w/grand prize payoffs as follows:

1977 - $50K
1978 - $100K
1979 - $250K
1980 - grand total of $1M awarded to all participants

After the show moved to the CBS O&Os, there were no more ToCs, although they did have a $25K Couples Tournament sometime in early 1982.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: ChuckNet on August 24, 2003, 07:07:44 PM
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After Joe Dunn was Eileen Jason (not Jacobs) who won over $55000 in fifteen wins and went on to beat Frank Dillon--for which I'll never forgive her--in the $250,000 Tournament Of Champions.

And it was a classic moment...Eileen was ahead of Frank in the final game, 500-400, so Frank needed at least a pair to stay in the game. He spins the wheels, and what does he get? 3 individual categories, giving the win to Eileen.

(Queries of \"Rrrrrrigggged?\" could be heard after viewing this ep at GSC8 in Cleveland, '99)

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: ChuckNet on August 24, 2003, 07:14:13 PM
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Mark Gluckman racked up around $33000 in 13 championships.

And the woman who defeated him, Susan (last name?), didn't do too badly either, winning at least 5 games and over $20K in cash/prizes.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: MikeK on August 24, 2003, 07:23:30 PM
[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Aug 24 2003, 09:02 AM\'] I agree.  Thanks Mike.  As long as you're taking requests... [/quote]
 I wasn't taking requests.  Chris asked kindly.  I thought I'd do a nice gesture.  That's all.
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: GS Warehouse on August 25, 2003, 10:33:19 AM
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Aug 24 2003, 06:23 PM\'] I wasn't taking requests. ... [/quote]
 I didn't think you were, I just thought I'd ask: could you please repost that clip some time in the (preferrably not-too-immediate) future when you're feeling benevolent?  Again, take your time.
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: TonicBH on August 25, 2003, 09:19:40 PM
I remember this TJW soundclip where a guy had the opportunity to win but he thought he didn't, so he shut himself out of a win... Anyone ever heard of that occurance?
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: daveromanjr on August 25, 2003, 11:08:24 PM
Thanks for posting that clip, Mike!

Seeing that makes me hope GSN will put TJW back on the schedule sometime soon (I've only seen 2 episodes from the Feast of Favorites marathon last Thanksgiving).
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: clemon79 on August 26, 2003, 02:29:15 AM
[quote name=\'TonicBH\' date=\'Aug 25 2003, 06:19 PM\'] I remember this TJW soundclip where a guy had the opportunity to win but he thought he didn't, so he shut himself out of a win... Anyone ever heard of that occurance? [/quote]
Yeah, I remember that. Fast Forward Something was in the game, and the dude was facing his final spin needing at least $150 to win. He spun two normal categories and a Joker, and when the guy, in a true Mah-rone Du Jour moment, called for one of the singletons for $100 instead of going off the board with Fast Forward Whatever for $50 (and answering however many questions he needed to make up the deficit), Jack announced that the game was over.
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on August 26, 2003, 03:57:43 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 26 2003, 01:29 AM\'][quote name=\'TonicBH\' date=\'Aug 25 2003, 06:19 PM\'] I remember this TJW soundclip where a guy had the opportunity to win but he thought he didn't, so he shut himself out of a win... Anyone ever heard of that occurance? [/quote]
Yeah, I remember that. Fast Forward Something was in the game, and the dude was facing his final spin needing at least $150 to win. He spun two normal categories and a Joker, and when the guy, in a true Mah-rone Du Jour moment, called for one of the singletons for $100 instead of going off the board with Fast Forward Whatever for $50 (and answering however many questions he needed to make up the deficit), Jack announced that the game was over.[/quote]
You left out the best parts: Jack Barry explained that very possibility to him before he spun (paraphrasing, \"You need a triple, OR you can go off the board to Fast Forward. Remember, if you don't get a triple, you have to take Fast Forward to win.\"). Also, after he took a category for $100, it took Jack about a minute of explaining (as gently as Jack Barry could) that he, the contestant, was an idiot. I believe he actually said something like \"I'm not allowed to help the contestants pick their category in any way.\" Good times, good times.
Title: The Joker's Wild Question
Post by: clemon79 on August 26, 2003, 11:29:16 AM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Aug 26 2003, 12:57 AM\'] Also, after he took a category for $100, it took Jack about a minute of explaining (as gently as Jack Barry could) that he, the contestant, was an idiot.
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 And this is why Gilbert Gottfried (or myself, for that matter) has never been mentioned as host of a possible TJW revival:

Gilbert/Me: \"Okay. You need a triple, or the Fast Forward category, to stay alive. Remember, you _can_ go off the board for Fast Forward if you only spin a single Joker. Good luck.\"

{Player spins.}

Gilbert/Me: \"Sports....News 2003...and a Joker.\"

Player: \"Um, Sports for $100, I guess.\"

Gilbert: \"YOU FOOL!\"
{or}
Me: \"What, are you HIGH?!\"