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Title: Retro J!
Post by: opimus on December 07, 2005, 06:58:26 PM
Would it be possible to recreate the 60's J! set and do aweek of show in the old style . Would the cost of the shows be more expensive than doing a college tourny?
Title: Retro J!
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on December 07, 2005, 07:03:05 PM
[quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Dec 7 2005, 06:58 PM\']Would it be possible to recreate the 60's J! set and do aweek of show in the old style . Would the cost of the shows be more expensive than doing a college tourny?
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You could, but why would you want to?
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on December 07, 2005, 08:56:33 PM
If Jeopardy! ever did some sort of retro tribute, it would certainly be to '80s Jeopardy!, not '60s Jeopardy!
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Post by: Neumms on December 07, 2005, 10:23:13 PM
I've had the same idea, with flip cards and everything. I think it would be great. They could use the old dollar amounts, then just multiply the winner's score by 20 so they wouldn't be cheated. (Or do it on celebrity week.)
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Post by: PYLdude on December 07, 2005, 10:27:55 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Dec 7 2005, 11:23 PM\']I've had the same idea, with flip cards and everything. I think it would be great. They could use the old dollar amounts, then just multiply the winner's score by 20 so they wouldn't be cheated. (Or do it on celebrity week.)
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You had me until the original dollar amount deal. Regardless of whether you'd end up multiplying it by 20 at the end, there is no reason why the current values couldn't be used.

Count me as one of those who wouldn't mind seeing at least a day or two of this.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 07, 2005, 11:43:08 PM
[quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Dec 7 2005, 07:58 PM\']Would the cost of the shows be more expensive than doing a college tourny?[/quote]
It's somewhat ironic to consider that these days, it's much MORE expensive to print up all those individual cards than it is to electronically enter the clues into the monitors.  That's a major reason you saw Win Ben Stein's Money change over to monitors in its second season.
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Post by: FOXSportsFan on December 08, 2005, 05:16:15 AM
The average viewer: Alex Trebek hosted Jeopardy! in the '60s?

Trebek: Aw, f*ck.

Yeah, we know about J!'s history, but most people wouldn't realize the purpose of it like us game show fan types.
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Post by: Neumms on December 08, 2005, 08:45:53 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Dec 8 2005, 05:16 AM\']Yeah, we know about J!'s history, but most people wouldn't realize the purpose of it like us game show fan types.
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You don't have to be a baseball historian to enjoy "Turn Back the Clock" night at the ballgame. People who'd never seen the Art Fleming version would still get a kick out of seeing how it used to be done. If nothing else, it's something different.
Title: Retro J!
Post by: JasonA1 on December 08, 2005, 08:55:38 PM
This is only semi-related, but a year or two back I tuned in to Fox and they were showing a baseball game as it was shown in the 60s on TV. After each break, they'd upgrade technology and go up in the years, getting into primitive instant replays with luma key overlays to the 70s with slow-mo and stuff, then the 80s with big bulky chyron, etc. etc. It kept me watching a game - hell, even a sport - I don't like! With J it may have a similar effect. No harm in doing it once, maybe on the xxth anniversary of the show or some other milestone.

-Jason
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Post by: Clay Zambo on December 09, 2005, 02:04:13 PM
Okay, but if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right: buzz in any time, no waitin' 'til the answer's been read.
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Post by: uncamark on December 09, 2005, 02:19:26 PM
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' date=\'Dec 9 2005, 01:04 PM\']Okay, but if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right: buzz in any time, no waitin' 'til the answer's been read.
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And Alex's going to have to say "WELL DONE!" a lot.

And no $2,000 or $1,000 to the losers, either.  If a copy of the Encyclopedia International was good enough 40 years ago, it's good enough now.  :)
Title: Retro J!
Post by: musicman on December 09, 2005, 11:56:29 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 7 2005, 11:43 PM\']It's somewhat ironic to consider that these days, it's much MORE expensive to print up all those individual cards than it is to electronically enter the clues into the monitors.  That's a major reason you saw Win Ben Stein's Money change over to monitors in its second season.
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I thought WBSM always used monitors?

Anyway, I think that WIN BEN STEIN'S MONEY itself was a great tribute to the '64-'79 JEOPARDY!  You had a gameboard that had (computer simulated) silding cards, one contestant eliminated after each round, and a more "classroom" atmosphere of the set.

BTW if you want to correctly adjust the '64 J!'s cash values for inflation (x times 6), you would still have a relatively cheap board.

60                        
120                      
180  round 1          
240                      
300                      

120
240
360  round 2
480
600
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Post by: Brandon Brooks on December 10, 2005, 12:15:09 AM
[quote name=\'musicman\' date=\'Dec 9 2005, 11:56 PM\']I thought WBSM always used monitors?
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Nope.  Originally they used art cards.
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Anyway, I think that WIN BEN STEIN'S MONEY itself was a great tribute to the '64-'79 JEOPARDY!  You had a gameboard that had (computer simulated) silding cards, one contestant eliminated after each round, and a more "classroom" atmosphere of the set.
I think the Jeopardy is a great tribute to Jeopardy, better than WBSM.

Brandon Brooks
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Post by: BrandonFG on December 10, 2005, 12:18:01 AM
[quote name=\'musicman\' date=\'Dec 9 2005, 11:56 PM\']I thought WBSM always used monitors?[/quote]
EDIT: The other Brandon summed it up.
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Post by: musicman on December 10, 2005, 01:06:27 AM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Dec 10 2005, 12:15 AM\']Nope.  Originally they used art cards.
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So for the '96-'97 season, they used cards... for the '97-'98 season, they switched to monitors?

Anyone have a screenshot of the first season gameboard?
Title: Retro J!
Post by: BrandonFG on December 10, 2005, 01:14:59 AM
[quote name=\'musicman\' date=\'Dec 10 2005, 01:06 AM\'][quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Dec 10 2005, 12:15 AM\']Nope.  Originally they used art cards.
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So for the '96-'97 season, they used cards... for the '97-'98 season, they switched to monitors?
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Precisely, but the first season was more like summer/fall 1997. Season two started in April 98.
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Post by: uncamark on December 13, 2005, 05:13:30 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 10 2005, 12:14 AM\'][quote name=\'musicman\' date=\'Dec 10 2005, 01:06 AM\'][quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Dec 10 2005, 12:15 AM\']Nope.  Originally they used art cards.
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So for the '96-'97 season, they used cards... for the '97-'98 season, they switched to monitors?
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Precisely, but the first season was more like summer/fall 1997. Season two started in April 98.
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All of "WBSM"'s seasons have been more calendar year than TV/school year.

And when they went to 130-episode renewal orders in the third season, they generally to a schedule where 65 eps debuted in the early part of the year and the other 65 later in each year.