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I'm largely unfamiliar with the last 'Tic Tac Dough' and 'The Jokers Wild.' Which one seems to have the lower reputation over time?
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 07:15 PM\']I'm largely unfamiliar with the last 'Tic Tac Dough' and 'The Jokers Wild.' Which one seems to have the lower reputation over time?
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Well, with Pat Finn's "first definition...last definition" and Patrick Wayne's "YOUUUUUUU WINNNNN!" not helping matters much, both shows sucked, and I'd have to say it was pretty much a dead heat.
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In TTD90's case, the game itself was okay -- it was Patrick Wayne, no cat's game jackpot carryovers and the childish theme (one of Mancini's last works before his death) that made the show bad.
Joker 90's the one that should be truly demonised, since they changed the game from "Knowledge is king and lady luck is queen" to, as we're supposed to all know, "a game of definitions".
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 07:15 PM\']I'm largely unfamiliar with the last 'Tic Tac Dough' and 'The Jokers Wild.' Which one seems to have the lower reputation over time?
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TTD90 has the lower reputation around these parts. BTW, Dan Enright had zero involvement in TJW90(it was Kline and Friends/Jack Barry Productions). The B&E Productions banner was on TTD90, but just how much work the then-aging Enright did on it is up for speculation.
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Yes, Dan did mount the TTD90 production. Got a letter from him after the pilot was shot, saying he was pleased. Guess that puts him in a slim category of folks. I almost forgot about Dan's two last gasp game shows, "All About The Opposite Sex" and "Hold Everything", "Hold" being another reworking of his All About Faces format. If I remember correctly, he got WOR TV to take it on for a trial run, maybe a couple of others stations. Haven't seen either one of the shows, but by their descriptions in the EOTVGS, it doesn't sound like they set the world on fire.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 07:15 PM\']I'm largely unfamiliar with the last 'Tic Tac Dough' and 'The Jokers Wild.' Which one seems to have the lower reputation over time?
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Well, TJW at least got to finish the season out...don't know how much of that was reruns, but TTD was cancelled midway thru the season.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 07:44 PM\']TTD90 has the lower reputation around these parts. [/quote]
Says you.
Why not give other people the chance to respond, before making a mass assumption?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Nov 20 2005, 12:10 AM\']Why not give other people the chance to respond, before making a mass assumption?
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Mark, please don't tell me you thought TTD90 was worth anything.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 11:14 PM\']Mark, please don't tell me you thought TTD90 was worth anything.
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While the host sucked; I didn't think the format was bad at all; the resetting jackpot isn't that big of a deal...and the "Dragonslayer" was similar to geting "Tic" and "Tac".
But enjoyed The Joker's Wild from that year too, so it might just be me.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Nov 20 2005, 12:24 AM\']While the host sucked; I didn't think the format was bad at all; the resetting jackpot isn't that big of a deal...and the "Dragonslayer" was similar to geting "Tic" and "Tac".
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I'll give it to ya on some of that...the only redeeming thing was the front game format. I can't be that generous with the jackpot reset, though...coulda helped a litle to have it accumulate.
They didn't do a lot of thinking when they put TTD90 together, I'll say.
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The 1990 edition of Tic Tac Dough is one of the few times in all my born natural when I was not upset to see a game show go off the air. Even if it did mean Hard Copy taking over the time period in my area.
The Joker's Wild did realize their error as they knocked out the money amounts on the board and replaced those windows with categories, making it closer to the game we truly did "well know".
As a contestant, they even brought back JOKER! JOKER! JOKER! JOKER! JOKER! Boy Peter Nagel, which allowed Pat Finn the opportunity to pay tribute to Jack Barry.
New shows ran from September 1990 to early June 1991 and "choice shows" (a.k.a. reruns of the first thirteen weeks) ran until the plug was pulled on that and many other games {inexplicably Davidson Pyramid survived} by the autumnal season of 1991.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 08:10 PM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 07:44 PM\']TTD90 has the lower reputation around these parts. [/quote]
Says you.
Why not give other people the chance to respond, before making a mass assumption?
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While I agree that Zach all too often uses the royal "we" in a pathetic attempt to include himself in a crowd that has no interest in having him as a member, in this case, he's right.
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How long into the run of TJW90 did they switch to the more traditional format? I barely remember it, but I do remember that I liked it better when they fixed it. Did the bonus round also switch? I seem to remember a format very similar to the original CBS TJW bonus round where they spun and there were prizes on the wheels, but I'm having a hard time remembering the details.
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 11:43 PM\']How long into the run of TJW90 did they switch to the more traditional format? I barely remember it, but I do remember that I liked it better when they fixed it. Did the bonus round also switch? I seem to remember a format very similar to the original CBS TJW bonus round where they spun and there were prizes on the wheels, but I'm having a hard time remembering the details.
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January or February 1991 was when the closer to the classic format came around.
As for the bonus round, they left that as it was. Match three prizes and you win them. Match three jokers and you break the jackpot which began at $5000 and rose by $500 each telecast it was unwon. As I recall, it reached $36K once.
Do please correct me if I'm mistaken, but could players continue until defeated on this version? The longest I remember someone lasting is Jack (something--starts with a C) who I think went ten or so days before being dethroned.
As a post-script, a guy named Loy Ray was a contestant once. And only once.
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The line of questioning for Joker's Wild 90 is really hated only because it wasn't the line of questioning on your father's Joker's Wild. I think in some respects the definition questioning was unique and a nice change of pace...that said, the end game still irks me a little. It's kind of like Gary Kroeger's Newlywed Game. If it was called something aside from "The Newlywed Game", people probably would have been more receptive to it. Same for Joker 90.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 11:49 PM\']Do please correct me if I'm mistaken, but could players continue until defeated on this version?
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Si. No car for five-time champions though. No Geo Metros or Ford Festivas. :-P
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Nov 19 2005, 11:49 PM\']
Do please correct me if I'm mistaken, but could players continue until defeated on TJW90? The longest I remember someone lasting is Jack (something--starts with a C) who I think went ten or so days before being dethroned.
As a post-script, a guy named Loy Ray was a contestant once. And only once.
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Thomas Van Dyke had the longest winning streak. He won 13 games and roughly $60K in cash and prizes, including a Joker's Jackpot. Mary was the name of the contestant who won the $36K Joker Jackpot. Loy Ray also won several games of Caldwell TTD.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Nov 20 2005, 07:36 AM\']Thomas Van Dyke had the longest winning streak. He won 13 games and roughly $60K in cash and prizes, including a Joker's Jackpot.
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Many thanks. NOW!!! I know Mark Gluckman won 13 games on Jack Barry's syndicated version earning around $33K while Eileen Jason (you beat Frank Dillon---bad karma! bad karma!) had 15 wins, but how many wins was Joe Dunn allowed before he was retired because of that O & O rule?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Nov 20 2005, 11:23 AM\']NOW!!! I know Mark Gluckman won 13 games on Jack Barry's syndicated version earning around $33K while Eileen Jason (you beat Frank Dillon---bad karma! bad karma!) had 15 wins, but how many wins was Joe Dunn allowed before he was retired because of that O & O rule?
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16, according to Wikipedia. I could run upstairs and get the tape, but I think trusting Wikipedia is easier.
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Well, TJW at least got to finish the season out...don't know how much of that was reruns, but TTD was cancelled midway thru the season.
I think TTD only did about 13 weeks. It disappeared from my area by January 1991, and when I saw it on USA in the early '90s, there were only about 13 weeks worth of shows which were repeated several times - and there was no "goodbye" on the final show. Too bad... :)
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"All About..." and "Hold Everything" was also on KCOP in Los Angeles for their test run that bombed out (and despite it being a test run, they were still put under Syndex provisions, so people watching WWOR on its superstation status could not see how bad they were).
A lot of testing went on that summer at 'OR and 'COP--I believe they also tested the Aussie soap "Neighbours." It also bombed--which, with the exception of the first 13 weeks of "Prisioner: Cell Block H," seems to be the natural fate of Aussie soaps in the U.S., while they seem to be popular everywhere else.
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Mary was the name of the contestant who won the $36K Joker Jackpot.
And she only won that 1 game, although a grand total of $38K's nothing to shake a stick at. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Nov 21 2005, 07:13 PM\']
Mary was the name of the contestant who won the $36K Joker Jackpot.
And she only won that 1 game, although a grand total of $38K's nothing to shake a stick at. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Is this the same gal who looked like she couldn't care less that she won the big money? I remember seeing Pat look A LOT more excited than she was, which made for some awkward moments at the beginning of the program (the bonus round was carried over from a long previous game).
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Nov 22 2005, 08:30 AM\']Is this the same gal who looked like she couldn't care less that she won the big money? I remember seeing Pat look A LOT more excited than she was, which made for some awkward moments at the beginning of the program (the bonus round was carried over from a long previous game).[/quote]
I saw the $36K winner on a downloaded clip, and that contestant was certainly excited (and a little shocked).
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Nov 20 2005, 12:24 AM\']
While the host sucked; I didn't think the format was bad at all; the resetting jackpot isn't that big of a deal...and the "Dragonslayer" was similar to geting "Tic" and "Tac".[/quote]
My issues with the pot resetting was that the contestants worked so hard to get the jackpot that high, only for it to be wiped out in a tie game situation. This meant that if someone were to win in game 2, they could possibly walk out with less than what was built beforhand.
As for the Dragonslayer, well...Vanilla Ice called. He wants his white boy rapper gimmick back.
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Is this the same gal who looked like she couldn't care less that she won the big money? I remember seeing Pat look A LOT more excited than she was, which made for some awkward moments at the beginning of the program (the bonus round was carried over from a long previous game).
She was indeed...also, they added a rather miniscule "$36,000.00" (yes, they actually included the cents) flashing graphic when she won, which did little to boost the already-low excitement factor.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")