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Charles Atkins
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Given that it's AO(Hel)L-Time Warner, common sense should tell you TPIR is not part of the package. However, some possibilities include Love Connection, Trump Card, and Dream House. I don't remember when the last two aired on TV.
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Nov 14 2005, 08:10 AM\']Given that it's AO(Hel)L-Time Warner, common sense should tell you TPIR is not part of the package. However, some possibilities include Love Connection, Trump Card, and Dream House. I don't remember when the last two aired on TV.
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Warners doesn't own "Dream House"--King World owns it (Westinghouse acquired CBS, CBS acquired KW). I think you're thinking of "Fun House."
To be honest, I suspect that of the shows you mentioned above, "Love Connection" is more likely to be included in this scheme--and that "The Bachelor" or "ElimiDATE" is even more likely (particularly if it was an "uncensored" outtakes package of either show).
And in all fairness, the "AOL" name was dropped from Time Warner not all that long ago and that division is more and more treated as the poor cousin of the corporation, as all involved now realize that it was an acquisition that should never have happened.
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Initially, the venture will be launching exclusively with properties from Warner's library (not all of which will be used - yet)
List of In2TV Series at Launch*
Adventures of Brisco County Jr.
Alice
Babylon 5
Beetlejuice
Chico and the Man
Dark Justice
Eight is Enough
F Troop
The F.B.I.
Falcon Crest
Freakazoid
Freddy's Nightmares
The Fugitive
Growing Pains
Hangin' with Mr. Cooper
Head of the Class
Histeria!
Kung Fu
La Femme Nikita
Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
Maverick
The New Adventures of Batman
Perfect Strangers
Pinky and the Brain
Scarecrow and Mrs. King
Sisters
Spenser: For Hire
V
Welcome Back, Kotter
Wonder Woman
*More series will be added to this list over the course of the year.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Nov 14 2005, 02:06 PM\']
The Fugitive
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Doesn't Paramount currently own the rights to The Fugitive?
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This is the 2000 version, not the original version, if I'm remembering correctly. (The '00 Fugitive IS Warner, dunno about the original)
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This maybe a good sign for The People's Court with Judge Wapner but not for The $1,000,000 Chance of A Lifetime.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Nov 14 2005, 01:44 PM\']Doesn't Paramount currently own the rights to The Fugitive?
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Yes. The original Fugitive is a Worldvision show that's licensed by Paramount.
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http://television.aol.com/in2tv (http://\"http://television.aol.com/in2tv\")
Notice the stills - these are more than just the launch titles, and one IS Love Connection. There was also a still from one of the less recognizable dating shows, but damned if *I* know what it is - aside from LC/DG/NG, they pretty much all look the same to me.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Nov 14 2005, 02:59 PM\']This is the 2000 version, not the original version, if I'm remembering correctly. (The '00 Fugitive IS Warner, dunno about the original)
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Hmmm... the New York Times article (http://\"http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/14/business/14warner.html\") includes a screenshot of the original Fugitive. But there's an outside chance the New York Times could be wrong about something. ;)
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F Troop! Cool! Hey, one out of 30 ain't bad! We'll get to hear William Lava's great score again.
If AOL is doing the streaming, each episode of F Troop will last a day and a half.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Nov 15 2005, 01:11 AM\']If AOL is doing the streaming, each episode of F Troop will last a day and a half.
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Hey now, with broadband connections streamed from AOL, it only takes a day and a third! :)
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One thing worth noting, Time Warner has made it clear these shows will NOT be on any other medium, so don't bet on Love Connection being there unless GSN dumps it soon.
If its in syndication, you won't see it on In2TV
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Nov 14 2005, 04:59 PM\']This is the 2000 version, not the original version, if I'm remembering correctly. (The '00 Fugitive IS Warner, dunno about the original)
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Oh, right...totally forgot about the remake, probably because it never really got off the ground.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Nov 14 2005, 11:11 PM\']If AOL is doing the streaming, each episode of F Troop will last a day and a half.
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However, according to the ads, if you're dissatisfied with the service, you can march right into an AOL board meeting, jump up on the table, and tell them.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 15 2005, 12:07 PM\']However, according to the ads, if you're dissatisfied with the service, you can march right into an AOL board meeting, jump up on the table, and tell them.
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I tried that. I'm due in court next week.
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[quote name=\'bossjock967\' date=\'Nov 15 2005, 09:28 AM\']I tried that. I'm due in court next week.
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Best of luck to you. I assure you, if I ever walked into an AOL board meeting, they would have to warm up Old Sparky, because it would be like the scene in Dogma when Matt & Ben walk into the Mooby headquarters. :)
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A Broadcasting & Cable article did say that after the original six channels (comedy, drama, S-F/fantasy, action, animation, "classics") roll out in January, AOL intends to add a reality channel and a "cancelled shows" channel (which could add shows when immediately cancelled by the networks and include unaired episodes) later. Don't know if "reality" will extend to game shows, but we'll find out eventually.
Aaron Barnhart is rather dismissive of the scheme on his KC Star blog (www.tvbarn.com), but I think it'll hold promise. Granted, these shows are mostly past their prime, but the hardcore vintage TV fan who complains about TVL and NAN will be glad to have this available--well, at least for some of the shows.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Nov 16 2005, 12:53 PM\']Aaron Barnhart is rather dismissive of the scheme on his KC Star blog (www.tvbarn.com), but I think it'll hold promise. Granted, these shows are mostly past their prime, but the hardcore vintage TV fan who complains about TVL and NAN will be glad to have this available--well, at least for some of the shows.
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As somebody who is quasi-in this industry, I don't think it's ready yet, bascially because:
1-The speeds aren't fast enough. It takes a few seconds to get a 3-4 minute song, it's going to take a long time to download the video component.
2-The quality won't be that great. We've seen DVD-quality and we're not going to go back. This is going to mean 720x480 images, and that's going to be a pretty big honking file. To make it more palatable, they'll probably reduce the quality. I don't want some blob on Gabe Kaplan's mouth, I want each indivudal moustache hair or it's just not worth it.
3-There's no ownership. Any and all music-renting schemes have failed, and only the ones that gave you the physical product have been successful.
4-The cost. At $2.49 show, it's not worth it when you can spend $25 and get the whole season. On media that you own.
This will work, and only work, when it's relatively instantenous and you get a full quality image that will look good on your TV -- you're big honking 27" TV -- so your whole family can sit down and watch it again and again. If it's horribly pixelized on a 14" computer monitor and you have to re-download it for each viewing, what's the point?
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Nov 16 2005, 01:02 PM\']If it's horribly pixelized on a 14" computer monitor and you have to re-download it for each viewing, what's the point?
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There is none, but when has AOL cared about quality?
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Nov 16 2005, 10:02 AM\'] If it's horribly pixelized on a 14" computer monitor and you have to re-download it for each viewing, what's the point?
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I think the point is, you have to start somewhere. Remember, you wouldn't even HAVE that 50" hi-def television if it weren't for a crappy, fuzzy, barely legible image of Felix The Cat in the 1930's.
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Nov 16 2005, 01:02 PM\']
As somebody who is quasi-in this industry, I don't think it's ready yet, bascially because:
1-The speeds aren't fast enough. It takes a few seconds to get a 3-4 minute song, it's going to take a long time to download the video component.
2-The quality won't be that great. We've seen DVD-quality and we're not going to go back. This is going to mean 720x480 images, and that's going to be a pretty big honking file. To make it more palatable, they'll probably reduce the quality. I don't want some blob on Gabe Kaplan's mouth, I want each indivudal moustache hair or it's just not worth it.
3-There's no ownership. Any and all music-renting schemes have failed, and only the ones that gave you the physical product have been successful.
4-The cost. At $2.49 show, it's not worth it when you can spend $25 and get the whole season. On media that you own.
--Mike
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Where does this 2.49 come from? As I understand it, these programs will be free of charge as it is (with the commercials of course)
You get what you pay for =)
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' date=\'Nov 17 2005, 07:11 AM\']Where does this 2.49 come from? [/quote]
He probably confused this with NBC's plan of making their latest shows available online with no commercials for that price.
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' date=\'Nov 17 2005, 07:11 AM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Nov 16 2005, 01:02 PM\']
4-The cost. At $2.49 show, it's not worth it when you can spend $25 and get the whole season. On media that you own.
--Mike
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Where does this 2.49 come from? As I understand it, these programs will be free of charge as it is (with the commercials of course)
You get what you pay for =)
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I cheerfully withdraw #4 for the consumer, but now the model looks real stupid for the provider. Streaming media isn't free and commercials don't pay the bills (yet).
--Mike