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Let's say that you were granted the job of Executive Producer for one day of The Price is Right, and you could make one change that was permanent. What would you change?
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The one thing I'd do is retire the game Double Prices. It's not a bad game, however in most cases, it doesn't quite have the excitement for me as pretty much all the others do.
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[quote name=\'$100kPyramidfan\' date=\'Oct 22 2005, 12:32 AM\']The one thing I'd do is retire the game Double Prices. It's not a bad game, however in most cases, it doesn't quite have the excitement for me as pretty much all the others do.
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Double Prices doesn't exist to be exciting. It exists so that they have time to play other games that are exciting.
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Tough call, but I'd probably pick a permanent set of models.
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I could think of a few things that I would change, but since I can only name one, I'll say that I would also institute permanent models.
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Stop having the audience hoot and holler over everything. I don't mind cheering, but they shit themselves* over everything Bob says. It's like watching Oprah.
*No ATGS jokes. :-P
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Get Bente Christensen to stop drinking on the job.
Or start drinking on the job.
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Start planning for when Barker finally goes to that Great Showcase in the Sky.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Oct 21 2005, 11:36 PM\'][quote name=\'$100kPyramidfan\' date=\'Oct 22 2005, 12:32 AM\']The one thing I'd do is retire the game Double Prices. It's not a bad game, however in most cases, it doesn't quite have the excitement for me as pretty much all the others do.
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Double Prices doesn't exist to be exciting. It exists so that they have time to play other games that are exciting.
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Since James had Double Double Prices (for lack of a better name), DP could go to a similar format. Makes one wonder why they didn't keep it.
I would be in favor of permanent models as well (I was thinking Brandi, Rachel, and perhaps Lanisha)
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My turn...well, since I implied in another topid that I'd like to see some of the dollar values on the Plinko board changed, that's what I'd do. ($1000 for the bookend slots, make the current ones worth $2500 instead).
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New, toned down, reasonably up-to-date set, including the Showcase lecturns and wheel but not the pricing games. No video wall, but a restrained color pallette and a measure of taste.
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Get a substitute host to stand in for The WGMC when he's ill so tapings aren't cancelled. In fact, have the sub be Rich Fields. Don Howard would like to announce but realistically have Art Sanders on stand-by for that.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Oct 22 2005, 06:13 PM\']Get a substitute host to stand in for The WGMC when he's ill so tapings aren't cancelled. In fact, have the sub be Rich Fields. Don Howard would like to announce but realistically have Art Sanders on stand-by for that.
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[/quote]Doesn't Barker's contract say that he doesn't want a substitute host?
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get rid of Rich Fields.
uptodate set
change the wheel (similar to australia first wheel)
make the doors smaller so i can put that round thing in there ( hard to expain)
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Start planning for when Barker is finally told to "Come on DOWN!". If Bob passes judgement, he will be told to "Come on UP!".
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have the sub be Rich Fields
"And now here is the star of The Price Is Right, Mr. Microphone!"
Doesn't Barker's contract say that he doesn't want a substitute host?
I don't know; I haven't read Barker's contract. SplitSecond, have you read Barker's contract? Matt? David? Randy? Lemon? Anyone here read Bob Barker's contract? Zach, put in a call to Galpin Ford. I want to speak to someone who's read Barker's contract.
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Oct 21 2005, 11:16 PM\']Get Bente Christensen to stop drinking on the job.
Or start drinking on the job.
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Or take away her LSD.
(Legal disclaimer: It's a JOKE!)
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 22 2005, 11:19 PM\'][quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Oct 21 2005, 11:16 PM\']Get Bente Christensen to stop drinking on the job.
Or start drinking on the job.
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Or take away her LSD.
(Legal disclaimer: It's a JOKE!)
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I don't see how that disclaimer is at all necessary; she did go to school in San Francisco, after all.
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Bring back Professor Price.
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I think I would hire a competent director. There have been some awkward shots in the past couple years, but I don't think the camerawork has declined significantly. It seems Bart lacks the split-second reflexes needed to direct a complexly-staged show like Price. Someone more along the lines of a Marc Breslow or Paul Alter would be nice.
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I wouldn't change anything. I'm in the happy minority that likes rotating models.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 11:08 AM\']I wouldn't change anything. I'm in the happy minority that likes rotating models.
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So you're just gonna completely disregard the shitty-ass directing, huh?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 11:16 AM\']So you're just gonna completely disregard the shitty-ass directing, huh?[/quote]What's so bad about it? I must not be noticing what you guys are.
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 11:28 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 11:16 AM\']So you're just gonna completely disregard the shitty-ass directing, huh?[/quote]What's so bad about it? I must not be noticing what you guys are.
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Being a broadcasting grad, I notice it too, but it's a lot worse on say, Feud, than it is here (GAWD, do I hate Feud's camerawork--throws up). I don't like the fact that the show got rid of the turntable reveal for Plinko, just so they could get an extra shot of the contestant's reaction. They get enough excited reactions when they show the car. They went 2 decades without doing such a shot, why start now?
One change I DO like is how the camera gets a late shot of a happy contestant going right into the commercial.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 11:54 AM\']I don't like the fact that the show got rid of the turntable reveal for Plinko, just so they could get an extra shot of the contestant's reaction.[/quote]I like the way it is now. I'd rather see a happy contestant's ministrations than a piece of wood any day. The whole thing looked so awkward to me.
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I would bring back the "arrow" shot during the showcase showdown. It seems that there are too many camera switches (especially when a contestant rambles on about saying hello to the entire trailer park they live in) and you don't actually see the wheel at all until after it stops. The show with the inset would seem to solve that problem. I'd love to know why it was ditched.
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 01:40 PM\']It seems that there are too many camera switches (especially when a contestant rambles on about saying hello to the entire trailer park they live in) and you don't actually see the wheel at all until after it stops.[/quote]For a little while, they used the camera that was straight on the wheel and backed it up a bit to get the contestant in the shot.
The worst example of directing that I can remember was when Effie from Season 32 spun a dollar for $1000. She was saying hello to everyone at IP Papers, when Barker suddenly pointed to the wheel and said, "Look at this! You got a dollar!" So then there was a quick shot of the stopped wheel, which Effie immediately ran across. Quite disconcerting.
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Bart has a nasty habit of not being on the right camera during a game's final, climactic price reveal, leaving the viewer to learn the outcome through sound effects. It seems to happen particularly often in Grand Game.
And the current Plinko intro, with the harps playing continuously and that dinky graphic appearing on the screen, gets the game off to a slow start. The old one, with the peppy music and the sign flipping around, set a nice, quick pace for what's supposed to be an exciting game. (And I think it's well established by now that Bart getting rid of the sign didn't have anything to do with wanting to focus on the contestant's reaction.)
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 02:55 PM\'] (And I think it's well established by now that Bart getting rid of the sign didn't have anything to do with wanting to focus on the contestant's reaction.)
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What was the real reason? Mechanical problems?
--Sam
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[quote name=\'SamJ93\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 03:02 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 02:55 PM\'] (And I think it's well established by now that Bart getting rid of the sign didn't have anything to do with wanting to focus on the contestant's reaction.)
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What was the real reason? Mechanical problems?
--Sam
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The real reason was "Bart's lazy."
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 04:23 PM\'][quote name=\'SamJ93\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 03:02 PM\']What was the real reason? Mechanical problems?[/quote]The real reason was "Bart's lazy."
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[/quote]Really? So he just didn't want to do it because <cut to turntable><cut to contestant><cut to turntable><cut to Plinko board> was too much for him? And he still drawing a paycheck? Amazing.
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Bart has a nasty habit of not being on the right camera during a game's final, climactic price reveal, leaving the viewer to learn the outcome through sound effects. It seems to happen particularly often in Grand Game.
The tragic irony is that Andy Felsher is more than capable of taking over the direction of the show, and Jay Wolpert might be available to run the live shows, which leaves Bart ... ummm ...
Having heard Bart direct the show, it is my humble opinion that he has all of Marc Breslow's vitriol but none of Breslow's talent.
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Going by the rules of only one, and after thinking it over...
Goodbye Bart.
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Coming from someone who wants to do such work eventually in his live, I can say just about the only thing I like about Bart directing the show is his Lucky Seven car reveal.
As for my choice, I'd probably get rid of a game or 2. Goodbye Joker.....
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Regarding permanent models, a smart producer will keep the models as daily hires. Their term of employment is exactly one working day. If they give you trouble (or testify against you in a hypothetical deposition) you don't call them back. There are no personal services contracts and they make scale -- what a deal!
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[quote name=\'Chief-O\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 07:46 PM\']Coming from someone who wants to do such work eventually in his live, I can say just about the only thing I like about Bart directing the show is his Lucky Seven car reveal.[/quote]
That's the one where the audience is screaming for about 5 seconds before the camera finally cuts to the car, already in the middle of the stage, yes?
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[quote name=\'DYosua\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 10:03 AM\']I think I would hire a competent director. There have been some awkward shots in the past couple years, but I don't think the camerawork has declined significantly. It seems Bart lacks the split-second reflexes needed to direct a complexly-staged show like Price.
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Besides the things already mentioned about Eskander's directing(Eskander worked under both Alter and Breslow at some point, no?), the way he's shooting Bonus Game these days is awkward(with the game already revealed before the contestant and Bob get to the turntable). That's the most obvious change under Eskander, to me anyway.
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[quote name=\'Chief-O\' date=\'Oct 23 2005, 07:46 PM\']Coming from someone who wants to do such work eventually in his live, I can say just about the only thing I like about Bart directing the show is his Lucky Seven car reveal.
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Really? It's very anti-climactic. I'd rather see the car come rolling out than a shot of Door #2. The television audience should be able to see the car the same time the studio audience does, in my opinion.
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Yeah, in watching some older shows, the reveal of Lucky Seven was still awkward, but perhaps better depending on your view. The car would just inch out, and Marc would cut to the contestant, then quickly back to the car into the descrip. I do agree its timing is a bit odd right now with the audience's excitement making it obvious what is about to come.
(Eskander worked under both Alter and Breslow at some point, no?)
He was listed as a "Music Supervisor" in the 70s, and by the 80s was the Associate Director. He's seen in a video clip on the J-Shea site (where the show becomes the longest running in '87) telling Bob how much time he has left in the show. He may have had other responsibilities on the show at different times.
-Jason
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Changes such as the Pl!nko reveal or having the Bonus Game already exposed, may or may not originate with Bart. They could come from anyone on the production staff, then Barker or Roger approves it and Bart implements it.
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The tragic irony is that Andy Felsher is more than capable of taking over the direction of the show, and Jay Wolpert might be available to run the live shows, which leaves Bart ... ummm ...
I thought Felsher did a fine job directing TNPiR 94, so no reason why he couldn't do the same now, even w/out the fancy camera angles, etc. that the former had.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 10:15 PM\']Changes such as the Pl!nko reveal or having the Bonus Game already exposed, may or may not originate with Bart. They could come from anyone on the production staff, then Barker or Roger approves it and Bart implements it.
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I am under the impression that no one else on the production staff wanted to change the Plinko reveal.
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Cripes. The contestants today showboat enough as it is. Why do they need to give them further opportunity to look like idiots?
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Show the entire spin of the wheel each time during the Showcase Showdown rather than cutting away to the contestant saying hello to everyone. Maybe bring back that arrow view as was previously mentioned.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 08:47 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 10:15 PM\']Changes such as the Pl!nko reveal or having the Bonus Game already exposed, may or may not originate with Bart. They could come from anyone on the production staff, then Barker or Roger approves it and Bart implements it.
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I am under the impression that no one else on the production staff wanted to change the Plinko reveal.
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Your impression is based on ... ?
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It seems to me that the Bonus Game board has always been revealed at the top of the game before the prize package is announced, as were all of the game initially (I remember the original Any Number board coming around with cover cards over the prize cards, including the piggy bank on the very earliest shows--the piggy bank was there for real and they showed Anitra shaking it, with the sound of the coins picking up).
Even when they went to revealing the prize before the game, as is the practice now, the Bonus Game board was still revealed before the prize package--so that goes back to Wayne and Marc Breslow.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 05:27 PM\']It seems to me that the Bonus Game board has always been revealed at the top of the game before the prize package is announced,
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The difference now is, that as of sometime last season, they don't show the game coming around on the turntable like they used to.
At least they don't have the game showing during the previous IUFB like was done with Give or Keep.
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The contestants row displays be computerized instead of the standard sports-type font...just like the overseas versions and such.
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[quote name=\'Strikerz04\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:34 PM\']The contestants row displays be computerized instead of the standard sports-type font...just like the overseas versions and such.
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I disagree (X gets the square!). The one thing I like about TPiR is that they continue to use old-school technology, including totes from 30 years ago. With all the other game shows using some new form of technology (plasma scoreboards on Wheel/J!, computer survey board on Feud), I like the fact that at least one show still uses "dated" equipment. Ditto for the pricing games.
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[quote name=\'Strikerz04\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:34 PM\']The contestants row displays be computerized instead of the standard sports-type font...just like the overseas versions and such.
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No no no, nonononono. I dislike most game shows who go by this technique. While it's cheap on the budget, it makes the game itself look slightly cheap. Give me my Vane displays and eggcrates, thankyouverymuch.
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Yeah...no matter how "old school" Eggcrate looks, seeing scores plopped on regular ol' monitors screams of "hey, I could do that." It'd be just a bit harder to make your own Eggcrate or Vane display.
-Jason
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What's with Wheel flashing "Bankrupt" on the contestant's scoreboard anyhow? As if we didn't know they hit it....that, combined with the "prize puzzle" from last night...(my first time watching Wheel in about 2 years), and I shut it right back off.
Cripes.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 01:52 AM\'][quote name=\'Strikerz04\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:34 PM\']The contestants row displays be computerized instead of the standard sports-type font...just like the overseas versions and such.
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I disagree (X gets the square!). The one thing I like about TPiR is that they continue to use old-school technology, including totes from 30 years ago. With all the other game shows using some new form of technology (plasma scoreboards on Wheel/J!, computer survey board on Feud), I like the fact that at least one show still uses "dated" equipment. Ditto for the pricing games.
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My thoughts exactly! Outstanding response by Fostergray, IMO.
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[quote name=\'michaellinn\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 02:25 PM\']My thoughts exactly! Outstanding response by Fostergray, IMO.
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Thanks...I try. ;-)
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 01:29 PM\']What's with Wheel flashing "Bankrupt" on the contestant's scoreboard anyhow? As if we didn't know they hit it....that, combined with the "prize puzzle" from last night...(my first time watching Wheel in about 2 years), and I shut it right back off.[/quote]
Well, you see, the staff is really really really proud of what they learned how to do on the com-pu-ter.
"Tonight's Jackpot Round . . ." (whoosh-flash!)