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Over the years, the networks have prepared a large number of shows for primetime which never actually aired. Sometimes shows will get cancelled early and still have episodes in the can (some of those have now ended up on DVD). Other times series might be cancelled even before their premiere (anyone remember NBC's ads for the 1976 David Brenner comedy "Snip"?)
Besides pilots, I wonder what game show episodes have never actually seen the light of day. Sure, sometimes there were pre-emptions for Watergate and such, but CBS - for one - usually just aired the episode the next day, so there was really very little that didn't get on the air.
Here's what we know of:
"Match Game 79" - the last two weeks of which never aired on CBS
Here's what's rumored:
"$10,000 Pyramid" - the last three weeks of the CBS version before it moved to ABC.
I'm sure there are many others...
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 13 2005, 08:15 PM\']Over the years, the networks have prepared a large number of shows for primetime which never actually aired.
I'm sure there are many others...
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There were a couple of unaired episodes of Hollywood Game in 1992 and several of Winning Lines in 2000, no? Also: two unaired episodes of LMAD2003 and one unaired episode of Monopoly.
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And correct me if I'm wrong, but all those episodes of "On the Cover" in the can on the old set with the old format. Perhaps some episodes of "Balderdash" met the same fate, but don't quote me.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 13 2005, 08:15 PM\'] )
Besides pilots, I wonder what game show episodes have never actually seen the light of day. Sure, sometimes there were pre-emptions for Watergate and such, but CBS - for one - usually just aired the episode the next day, so there was really very little that didn't get on the air.
Here's what we know of:
"Match Game 79" - the last two weeks of which never aired on CBS
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I always thought GSN had aired those shows.
Did the Doug Davidson 'TPIR' come to the natural end of its run or did some conestatnts never get to see their shows?
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Oct 13 2005, 08:57 PM\']I always thought GSN had aired those shows.
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They did. It wasn't until GSN aired them that they saw the light of day.
I would wonder about shows that no "farewell" celebration--for example, you wouldn't know LAS VEGAS GAMBIT had been cancelled just by watching the show (until you saw a superimposed shot of Wink over the credits saying that this was the last show and to plug Regis' new show). Perhaps LVG had shows in the can and NBC was in a pretty good hurry to get Regis aboard.
(Merely speculation--not necessarily true.)
Doug
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Oct 13 2005, 08:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 13 2005, 08:15 PM\'] )
Besides pilots, I wonder what game show episodes have never actually seen the light of day. Sure, sometimes there were pre-emptions for Watergate and such, but CBS - for one - usually just aired the episode the next day, so there was really very little that didn't get on the air.
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What about the Big Deal shows that were announced in 1997 with Heidi Mark joining Mark DeCarlo?
Brian
Lasting expressions?
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Oct 13 2005, 10:08 PM\']I would wonder about shows that no "farewell" celebration--for example, you wouldn't know LAS VEGAS GAMBIT had been cancelled just by watching the show (until you saw a superimposed shot of Wink over the credits saying that this was the last show and to plug Regis' new show). Perhaps LVG had shows in the can and NBC was in a pretty good hurry to get Regis aboard.
(Merely speculation--not necessarily true.)
Doug
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I often wonder about PYL as well. As we saw earlier this year, there was a back to school show that was taped but never aired for reasons yet to be explained (paging Jason H.), and with the show taping (at least) 11 shows a session, it stands to reason that there were unaired episodes too.
Tyshaun
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Purely speculation on my part, but I've always believed that the one Winning Streak episode that survives -- the one GSN has run -- may not have aired originally. Its original air date is always listed as August 9, 1974, which would have been the day after Nixon resigned. Seems to me that the networks would have been busy with news coverage that morning. In fact, I guess it's entirely possible that the only reason it survives at all is because it got set aside for the news preemption.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 13 2005, 10:58 PM\']Its original air date is always listed as August 9, 1974, which would have been the day after Nixon resigned. Seems to me that the networks would have been busy with news coverage that morning. In fact, I guess it's entirely possible that the only reason it survives at all is because it got set aside for the news preemption.
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost positive that the FAUX PAUSE hosts said as much when the ep aired as a part of their package (granted, their asides were supposed to be humorous, but in this case I don't think they were kidding). Of course, this is going on almost seven-years-ago memory.
Doug
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What about the Big Deal shows that were announced in 1997 with Heidi Mark joining Mark DeCarlo?
I'm pretty sure those shows were never actually produced. Same could be said of the last 6 "Greed" shows which were scheduled to be taped, but the set was struck and the show cancelled before they could tape them.
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I would wonder about shows that no "farewell" celebration--for example, you wouldn't know LAS VEGAS GAMBIT had been cancelled just by watching the show (until you saw a superimposed shot of Wink over the credits saying that this was the last show and to plug Regis' new show).
Now that I read this, another show comes to mind which sort of fits that bill - "Caesar's Challenge". I know for sure I saw episodes on USA that I never saw on NBC. And they never had a finale, either. I'd be willing to bet it was cancelled between taping sessions and they never knew the last episode was actually the last one.
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There was a once a week syndicated version of "Caesar's Challenge." that Cannell distributed in the fall of 93. Channel 9 in LA and Chicago at least aired it. Is it possible USA showed those in addition to the NBC episodes?
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I'm pretty sure that they were NBC shows because they had returning champions. One even featured a brief outdoor shot of a Caesar's Palace billboard with taping dates for "Caesar's Challenge" announced. (For the record, at that time they were taping Fridays-Saturdays-Sundays).
However, does anybody here remember seeing that once-weekly syndicated version? Was the format the exact same? There is a copy of a show in the trading curcuit that has a betting format. It's believed to be the pilot. I'm sure my copy comes from a studio master, but some people claim that it actually aired. I'm wondering if this might have come from the syndie version(?)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 14 2005, 08:33 AM\']There was a once a week syndicated version of "Caesar's Challenge." that Cannell distributed in the fall of 93. Channel 9 in LA and Chicago at least aired it. Is it possible USA showed those in addition to the NBC episodes?
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I am almost certain that most, if not all, of the shows were repeats of the daytime version with a "Nighttime!" slapped over the titles. They probably would've gone to more first-run production if it had done well in Chicago (and on cable). It didn't.
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The show actually aired on USA for fewer weeks than it did on NBC daytime...so I don't know if it's possible that USA ran unaired episodes.
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Also locked in the Vault of Unaired Television: the handful of episodes of ABC's "Deal or No Deal" that were produced. (One of those episodes belongs to the small, exclusive club of shows that I closed-captioned that never aired, along with two episodes of "Clerks: The Animated Series" and the NBC 40th anniversary rerun of "Mister Magoo's Christmas Carol.")
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The show actually aired on USA for fewer weeks than it did on NBC daytime...so I don't know if it's possible that USA ran unaired episodes.
When USA picked up the show, they started with the initial episode of the second bonus round, which was around Oct 1993. They went through to the end of the run and then aired a few weeks from the beginning before taking it off.
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[quote name=\'trainman\' date=\'Oct 15 2005, 06:29 PM\']Also locked in the Vault of Unaired Television: the handful of episodes of ABC's "Deal or No Deal" that were produced. (One of those episodes belongs to the small, exclusive club of shows that I closed-captioned that never aired, along with two episodes of "Clerks: The Animated Series" and the NBC 40th anniversary rerun of "Mister Magoo's Christmas Carol.")
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Didn't the unaired "Clerks" eps run on Comedy Central?
(And if NBC didn't run "Mr. Magoo," hasn't CN or Boomerang aired it in recent years during the holidays--but did someone else do the captioning, if any, for those airings? I know Boomerang either currently or recently ran the made-for-TV "Magoo" shorts, with Charlie redubbed with an Asian voice-over and no bad grammar.)
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 17 2005, 05:20 PM\'](I know Boomerang either currently or recently ran the made-for-TV "Magoo" shorts, with Charlie redubbed with an Asian voice-over and no bad grammar.)
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I don't have Boomerang (boo-hiss), but by "made-for-TV" are you referring to the DFE-produced series from 1977? Or are we going back further than that?
USA had run the 1977 series during their old CARTOON EXPRESS days, but until a few months ago it was available using the On Demand feature of my digital cable (shame I never saw fit to get those eps on tape).
Doug
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Oct 17 2005, 06:43 PM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 17 2005, 05:20 PM\'](I know Boomerang either currently or recently ran the made-for-TV "Magoo" shorts, with Charlie redubbed with an Asian voice-over and no bad grammar.)
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I don't have Boomerang (boo-hiss), but by "made-for-TV" are you referring to the DFE-produced series from 1977? Or are we going back further than that?
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We're going back to the early 60s--the ones with "ROAD HOG!" in the titles and "Oh, Magoo--you've done it again!" in the end titles. I believe they were made a year or two before the "Dick Tracy" series (with its own political incorrectness problem in Go Go Gomez and the Chinese detective whose name I've forgotten).
AFAIK, the theatrical Magoos have only been shown on TV on Nickelodeon on either "Weinerville" or "Cartoon Kerblooey" (the title originally given by Nick to the last batch of Paramount shorts made in the 60s, but later expanded to the UPA theatrical shorts).
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Over the years, the networks have prepared a large number of shows for primetime which never actually aired. Sometimes shows will get cancelled early and still have episodes in the can (some of those have now ended up on DVD). Other times series might be cancelled even before their premiere (anyone remember NBC's ads for the 1976 David Brenner comedy "Snip"?)
Or how about the never-aired 1979 CBS sitcom Mr. Dugan, which was to have starred Cleavon Little? (Supposed to have been about a black football player-turned-politician, it was pulled due to PC concerns after recieving negative reviews from real-life black politicians).
ObGameShow: Mr. Dugan finally aired later in 79, but as a reworked series titled Hanging In that starred Bill Macy, who appeared on MG '75 and TT.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 17 2005, 03:20 PM\']Didn't the unaired "Clerks" eps run on Comedy Central?[/quote]
You may be right -- I'm not sure if they would have had the original ABC captioning or not. Usually, when something gets rerun, it's edited in some way, so the syndication distributor and/or the new network will usually come back and have us "reformat" the captions, which is almost always cheaper and easier than having someone else do captioning from scratch. I don't remember us reformatting "Clerks" for Comedy Central, so either they aired the shows in exactly the same way they aired on ABC, or they had someone else caption them (or they aired without captions).
GSN's "WWTBAM" and "Jeopardy!" reruns are good on-topic examples of reformats my former employer did do, on behalf of GSN, even though we weren't GSN's usual captioning provider.
And if NBC didn't run "Mr. Magoo," hasn't CN or Boomerang aired it in recent years during the holidays--but did someone else do the captioning, if any, for those airings?
Yes, Cartoon Network aired it, and I think the same year NBC was going to air it. (I'd captioned it in September or thereabouts.) I watched to see if it was edited the same way as NBC's version -- it was, which was a little odd, because CN tends to have less commercial time than NBC. It did not have the captions I had done when it aired on CN.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Oct 17 2005, 06:43 PM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 17 2005, 05:20 PM\'](I know Boomerang either currently or recently ran the made-for-TV "Magoo" shorts, with Charlie redubbed with an Asian voice-over and no bad grammar.)
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I don't have Boomerang (boo-hiss), but by "made-for-TV" are you referring to the DFE-produced series from 1977? Or are we going back further than that?
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We're going back to the early 60s--the ones with "ROAD HOG!" in the titles and "Oh, Magoo--you've done it again!" in the end titles. I believe they were made a year or two before the "Dick Tracy" series (with its own political incorrectness problem in Go Go Gomez and the Chinese detective whose name I've forgotten).
The Chinese Detective would be Joe Jitsu. Interestingly enough, Dick Tracy appeared in an installment of Famous Adventures of Mr. Magoo in 1964-65 on NBC Other Detectives in the Tracy series included Andy Devine soundalike Heap O Calorie and Cary Grant soundalike Hemlock Holmes with his "help" the Retouchables..reminiscient of the Keystone Kops. While I watched Tracy and the Made for TV Magoos on KYW Cleveland as a kid, The only reason I can recall some of the detectives is that Time Warner's In Demand is showing Dick Tracy shorts now as well as the 1977 Magoo series, Mighty Hercules and Wizard of Oz Cartoons from the early 1960's.
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Actually, the Oriental detective in the cartoon series was Joe Jitsu. There was also the Mexican master of disguise, Go Go Gomez. I remember the show from it's days of being a half-hour syndicated package in our area. Paramount Home Video released a couple of tapes of cartoons from the series.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Oct 18 2005, 07:47 PM\']Or how about the never-aired 1979 CBS sitcom Mr. Dugan, which was to have starred Cleavon Little? (Supposed to have been about a black football player-turned-politician, it was pulled due to PC concerns after recieving negative reviews from real-life black politicians).
ObGameShow: Mr. Dugan finally aired later in 79, but as a reworked series titled Hanging In that starred Bill Macy, who appeared on MG '75 and TT.
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And that was the third time the fish-out-of-water setup was used -- the original plan was to use that as a stepping stone for Bea Arthur to continue Maude as a newly-appointed congresswoman, with the same supporting cast used for Mr. Dugan and Hanging In. Fortunately, Arthur decided to call it quits instead.
You never see Maude in reruns anymore, and certainly never the episode where Maude gets an abortion - it never reran once.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Oct 18 2005, 11:34 PM\']Actually, the Oriental detective in the cartoon series was Joe Jitsu. There was also the Mexican master of disguise, Go Go Gomez. I remember the show from it's days of being a half-hour syndicated package in our area. Paramount Home Video released a couple of tapes of cartoons from the series.
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Thanks for the Correction.Tracy was in that same syndicated package on KYW-TV 3 as part of "Barnaby " (Kid show host played by Linn Sheldon)
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Oct 18 2005, 11:40 PM\']You never see Maude in reruns anymore, and certainly never the episode where Maude gets an abortion - it never reran once.
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For those who have Comcast On Demand, there's a section called Tube Time which does have about 5 episodes of Maude.
But point taken about not being in reruns.
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You never see Maude in reruns anymore, and certainly never the episode where Maude gets an abortion - it never reran once.
It was on TVLand about three years ago. Does anybody know if the abortion episode aired then? I thought that it did on their weekend marathon that they used to introduce the series - but I could be wrong.
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Oct 18 2005, 10:21 PM\']The only reason I can recall some of the detectives is that Time Warner's In Demand is showing Dick Tracy shorts now as well as the 1977 Magoo series, Mighty Hercules and Wizard of Oz Cartoons from the early 1960's.
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Lucky--those shorts were dropped from my "On Demand" package (dang those Comcastics).
Doug
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 19 2005, 09:11 AM\']
You never see Maude in reruns anymore, and certainly never the episode where Maude gets an abortion - it never reran once.
It was on TVLand about three years ago. Does anybody know if the abortion episode aired then? I thought that it did on their weekend marathon that they used to introduce the series - but I could be wrong.
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It certainly did. That's the only way I'd even know about it.
I want to say they had it six years ago, though...although maybe they still had it three years ago. At any rate, yes, they aired that episode.
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Another show with unaired episodes was Free 4 All. IIRC, USA did 130 episodes each of Quicksilver and F4A. While Quicksilver lasted long enough for each episode to air twice or thrice, F4A was pulled after 19 weeks.
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And that was the third time the fish-out-of-water setup was used -- the original plan was to use that as a stepping stone for Bea Arthur to continue Maude as a newly-appointed congresswoman, with the same supporting cast used for Mr. Dugan and Hanging In. Fortunately, Arthur decided to call it quits instead.
There was another earlier failed attempt, as well...after the aborted Maude reworking, but before Mr. Dugan, the series was originally going to be called Onward and Upward, w/John Amos as the star, but he left over creative differences after the pilot was shot.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 14 2005, 09:03 AM\']I'm pretty sure that they were NBC shows because they had returning champions. One even featured a brief outdoor shot of a Caesar's Palace billboard with taping dates for "Caesar's Challenge" announced. (For the record, at that time they were taping Fridays-Saturdays-Sundays).
However, does anybody here remember seeing that once-weekly syndicated version? Was the format the exact same? There is a copy of a show in the trading curcuit that has a betting format. It's believed to be the pilot. I'm sure my copy comes from a studio master, but some people claim that it actually aired. I'm wondering if this might have come from the syndie version(?)
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I believe the syndicated episode were reruns, or at least from the second bonus game era.
Aired at 6:30pm Saturday nights on the number 9.
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Jim (trainman):
Are you at liberty to tell us anything about said DoND eps that never aired, presuming now that they never will?
Ryan :)
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Oct 19 2005, 04:58 AM\'][quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Oct 18 2005, 11:40 PM\']You never see Maude in reruns anymore, and certainly never the episode where Maude gets an abortion - it never reran once.
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For those who have Comcast On Demand, there's a section called Tube Time which does have about 5 episodes of Maude.
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Actually, over the last few months or so, On Demand had the complete first and second seasons of "MAUDE" available for viewing...it started out with the first 10-12 episodes or so for a time and nothing more for an extended period...suddenly, another batch of eps would be added and some of the older eps would disappear...I was very fortunate to have been able to record all the episodes before they were yanked. And yes, the abortion-two-parter was included. I wish I could find out if Comcast is planning to continue on with episodes from the 3rd season and beyond. Actually, it wasn't until the 3rd season and beyond that the show really gelled and ventured into much more consistantly "mature" plots with more frequent multi-episode storylines. In season 3, Maude became a career woman as a real estate broker. In season 4, Maude's marriage crumbles and much time is spent separated from her 4th husband Walter. And although the couple eventually reconciles, the marriage remains very fractured throughout the remainder of the series. And we must not forget that, in season 5, Maude and Vivian appeared on a game show (with dear Johnny O cast as, what else, the announcer). Finally, in season 6, one of Maude's greatest adventures is learning to cope with what appears to be her grandson's budding "alternative" lifestyle. Well, is it any wonder that Maude found herself at the end being thrown into the political arena? But even with a 3-part season (and series) finale building up to her big Washington move, even Bea Arthur knew when it was time to call it quits.
Oh, and we must remember that it was Maude who shook the TV censors to their core by being the first person on US primetime TV to utter the phrase "son of a b*tch" (referring to her unfaithful husband Walter after having a heart attack while in the bed of another woman). It was this incident and the earlier abortion storyline that Bea Arthur fought for and threatened quitting the show if the network and censors had not allowed these episodes to air as originally written and performed.
And then there's Maude...RIGHT ON, MAUDE!!
Jake
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Maude and Vivian appeared on a game show (with dear Johnny O cast as, what else, the announcer).
Right, JakeT, a CHAIN LINK FENCE!!
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[quote name=\'vtown7\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 07:59 PM\']Are you at liberty to tell us anything about said DoND eps that never aired, presuming now that they never will?
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I don't work for the company anymore, and if they (or ABC) haven't sued me yet, I don't think they're ever going to...
...however, I remember nothing about the one episode I captioned, so I am completely unable to tell you anything.