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At dinner tonight, the topic of the passing of the Poet Laureate of Television brought out an interesting question. Has there ever been a Nobel Lauerate on a game show anywhere in the world?
Well, I have found four. Can you guess who they are? Or can you find one that I haven't thought of?
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 4 2005, 11:12 PM\']Well, I have found four. Can you guess who they are? Or can you find one that I haven't thought of?[/quote]
Damn you, I was hoping to sleep tonight.
Jimmy Carter (Peace 2002) was on What's My Line?
Canadian Prime Minister Lester Pearson (Peace 1957) was on Front Page Challenge. My guess would be that any of a half-dozen other Canadian Nobel winners have also appeared on the show, but Pearson's the only one I can verify.
Dario Fo (Literature 1997) wrote, directed and appeared in the Italian 60s game show Canzonissima
James Watson (Physiology 1952 - you know, the DNA guy) was a Quiz Kid.
So there.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 4 2005, 11:37 PM\']Dario Fo (Literature 1997) wrote, directed and appeared in the Italian 60s game show Canzonissima
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Having lived in Italy for a few years in the middle 1970s and remembering Canzonissima starring Raffaela Carra and featuring Topo Gigio, I can first-hand attest that it was more like Star Search or even The Carol Burnett Show than a game show.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 01:24 AM\']Having lived in Italy for a few years in the middle 1970s and remembering Canzonissima starring Raffaela Carra and featuring Topo Gigio, [/quote]
Kees-a me goo' night, Eddeeee!
Hey, cut me some slack. I answer his preposterously difficult Nobel Laureate question and NOW we're going to play Game Show/Not A Game Show?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 12:32 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 01:24 AM\']Having lived in Italy for a few years in the middle 1970s and remembering Canzonissima starring Raffaela Carra and featuring Topo Gigio, [/quote]
Kees-a me goo' night, Eddeeee!
Hey, cut me some slack. I answer his preposterously difficult Nobel Laureate question and NOW we're going to play Game Show/Not A Game Show?
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Nope. I was just showing off my RAI-TV knowledge. Gotta catch up to Zach somehow.
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Matt got two of the four I found (Carter and Pearson). He's on the right track for the other two.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 12:32 AM\']Hey, cut me some slack. I answer his preposterously difficult Nobel Laureate question and NOW we're going to play Game Show/Not A Game Show?
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Consider it a bonus question. You got the toss-up, now deal with it. :)
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 08:12 AM\']Matt got two of the four I found (Carter and Pearson). He's on the right track for the other two.[/quote]
Another way of saying that is, "I found two that Matt didn't, and Matt found two that I didn't."
I can live with that.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 12:24 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 4 2005, 11:37 PM\']Dario Fo (Literature 1997) wrote, directed and appeared in the Italian 60s game show Canzonissima
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Having lived in Italy for a few years in the middle 1970s and remembering Canzonissima starring Raffaela Carra and featuring Topo Gigio, I can first-hand attest that it was more like Star Search or even The Carol Burnett Show than a game show.
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Would it be safe to say that it was similar to Sabado Gigante?
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 09:29 AM\']Would it be safe to say that it was similar to Sabado Gigante?[/quote]
Google searches seem to suggest that it was even less of a game show than Sabado. If I'm reading them right (and I'm probably not, since a few of them have depended on Google's entertaining but flawed translator), then the only "game" in Canzonissima is a talent competition. The Wikipedia listing calls it a "game show", and other sites seem to have picked up on that. It's also likely that, as with any show with variety elements, the structure and specific segments of the program changed over the years.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 08:24 AM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 08:12 AM\']Matt got two of the four I found (Carter and Pearson). He's on the right track for the other two.[/quote]
Another way of saying that is, "I found two that Matt didn't, and Matt found two that I didn't."
I can live with that.
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Yes, but I have found one more. Can you still live with that?
Hints on the "unknown" three:
2 American
1 Israeli
All are now deceased
--Mike
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Well, John Nash ("A Beautiful Mind") won a Nobel for game theory. Is that close enough?
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 09:20 AM\']Well, John Nash ("A Beautiful Mind") won a Nobel for game theory. Is that close enough?
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The Israerli was Golda Maier. She was on either IGAS or WML.
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[quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 05:49 PM\'][quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 09:20 AM\']Well, John Nash ("A Beautiful Mind") won a Nobel for game theory. Is that close enough?
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The Israerli was Golda Maier. She was on either IGAS or WML.
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If she was, she's not listed on either the What's My Line Episode Guide (http://\"http://www.kinescopes.com/WML_cbs.html\") or the I've Got a Secret Episode Guide (http://\"http://www.kinescopes.com/IGAS.html\"). She was not the Israeli I was able to verify.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 10:17 AM\']Yes, but I have found one more. Can you still live with that?[/quote]
Curses! No I can't!
[quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 06:49 PM\']The Israerli was Golda Maier. She was on either IGAS or WML.[/quote]
An interesting guess presented as a factual statement, however:
1) I don't think she appeared on either show and
2) According to this official list (http://\"http://nobelprize.org/search/all_laureates_c.html\"), she isn't a Nobel Laureate.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 06:32 PM\']
1) I don't think she appeared on either show and
2) According to this official list (http://\"http://nobelprize.org/search/all_laureates_c.html\"), she isn't a Nobel Laureate.
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Another possible answer or answer(s), if this would count: Weren't there recent Nobel Laureates who have read clues on J! in recent times?
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 06:55 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 06:32 PM\']
1) I don't think she appeared on either show and
2) According to this official list (http://\"http://nobelprize.org/search/all_laureates_c.html\"), she isn't a Nobel Laureate.
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Another possible answer or answer(s), if this would count: Weren't there recent Nobel Laureates who have read clues on J! in recent times?
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If they have, I don't know about them. But unless you have specific examples, and if anyone would. . .
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 08:23 PM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 06:55 PM\']
Another possible answer or answer(s), if this would count: Weren't there recent Nobel Laureates who have read clues on J! in recent times?[/quote]
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Zach gets a point:
http://www.ia.ucsb.edu/93106/2001/oct8/nobel/nobel.html (http://\"http://www.ia.ucsb.edu/93106/2001/oct8/nobel/nobel.html\")
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 5 2005, 09:17 AM\']
Yes, but I have found one more. Can you still live with that?
Hints on the "unknown" three:
2 American
1 Israeli
All are now deceased
--Mike
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According to Wikipedia, there are three dead Israeli Nobel Prize winners: Menachem Begin (Peace 1978), Yitzhak Rabin (Peace 1994), and Shmuel Yosef Agnon (Literature 1966). Is your pick one of these three, or is there another that both Wikipedia and I have missed?
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Next hints:
1. The Israeli and one of the Americans appeared on Front Page Challenge
2. The other American appeared on The Quiz Kids
3. The source for #1 I got from a book, not the Internet. Not to say that it isn't on the Internet, but I didn't look there for them.
4. The source for #2 can be found on the Internet.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 6 2005, 09:59 AM\']Next hints:
1. The Israeli and one of the Americans appeared on Front Page Challenge
2. The other American appeared on The Quiz Kids
3. The source for #1 I got from a book, not the Internet. Not to say that it isn't on the Internet, but I didn't look there for them.
4. The source for #2 can be found on the Internet.
--Mike
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#2 is Glenn Seaborg (Chemistry 1951), according to this site (http://\"http://hiqnews.megafoundation.org/Quiz_Kids_Noesis.htm\")
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 6 2005, 10:59 AM\']Next hints:
1. The Israeli and one of the Americans appeared on Front Page Challenge
2. The other American appeared on The Quiz Kids
3. The source for #1 I got from a book, not the Internet. Not to say that it isn't on the Internet, but I didn't look there for them.
4. The source for #2 can be found on the Internet.[/quote]
Well, I don't have the FPC history book, only the quiz book, so anything there would be a guess. Guessing, I'd say Begin was more likely than Rabin, and I wouldn't have any way of picking an American.
The other you spoon-fed me. Glenn Seabourg appeared on The Quiz Kids.
...and I've found another one from radio. The ball's in your court.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 6 2005, 11:16 AM\']
[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Oct 6 2005, 10:59 AM\']
...and I've found another one from radio. The ball's in your court.
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Matt's new find is a 90 second Google search.
--Mike
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The remaning ones, for the three of you still following this, are:
Information Please - Sinclair Lewis
Front Page Challenge - Menachem Begin and Martin Luther King, Jr.
So, the final count seems to be 11:
What's My Line - Jimmy Carter
Quiz Kids - Glenn Seaborg and James Watson
Information Please - Sinclair Lewis
Front Page Challenge - Menachem Begin, Martin Luther King Jr. and Lester Pearson
Jeopardy! - David Baltimore, Rudy Marcus, George Olah and Alan Heeger
Sources: Jeopardy (http://\"http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=326\"), What's My Line (http://\"http://www.matchgame.org/episodeguides/wml/wml6.html\"), Quiz Kids (http://\"http://hiqnews.megafoundation.org/Quiz_Kids.html\"), Information Please (http://\"http://otrsite.com/logs/logi1010.htm\") and Front Page Challenge (http://\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/155285146X/002-4619773-0184007?v=glance\")
--Mike
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I found one more, also from a radio game show: Pearl S. Buck (Literature 1938) appeared as a contestant on the 5/28/49 edition of "RFD America".
Source (http://\"http://www.radiogoldindex.com/cgi-local/p2.cgi?ProgramName=R.+F.+D.+America\")
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[quote name=\'RMF\' date=\'Oct 7 2005, 05:28 PM\']I found one more, also from a radio game show: Pearl S. Buck (Literature 1938) appeared as a contestant on the 5/28/49 edition of "RFD America".
Source (http://\"http://www.radiogoldindex.com/cgi-local/p2.cgi?ProgramName=R.+F.+D.+America\")[/quote]
WELL done! Mike and I have been going back and forth on this for the better part of a week -- and I was IN radiogoldindex searching names, but Buck never occurred to me.