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Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on September 27, 2005, 07:31:40 PM
Am I the only one who finds Rich Fields over the top and annoying on The Price is Right?  He sounds like a screechy old lady when he says "Here it Comes!" and sounds too amateur in his announcing.

Even though it's been nearly 2 years since they made the (wretched and poor) descision to hire him, I still think Burton Richardson (or even Randy West or Roger Rose) should of gotten the job.

Discuss.

-TPIRFan
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on September 27, 2005, 11:32:52 PM
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Am I the only one who finds Rich Fields over the top and annoying on The Price is Right? He sounds like a screechy old lady when he says "Here it Comes!" and sounds too amateur in his announcing.
No, you're not. The few times I've heard him he seems to have picked up some of the bad habits Rod Roddy developed to deal with his voice-cracking issues.

Just my opinion.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on September 28, 2005, 12:11:08 AM
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Even though it's been nearly 2 years since they made the (wretched and poor) descision to hire him, I still think Burton Richardson (or even Randy West or Roger Rose) should of gotten the job.

Funny you mention those two...while i like the stylings of all three announcers, and i feel price would have been great if they selected any of them (or Art Sanders), I feel that at times Randy's voice cracked. Burton's too. Come to think of it, so did Rod's. No announcer is perfect, period.

If there were a way to make a hybrid- announcer, I would mix Randy's enthusiam and call-downs with Rich's copy reading (who i feel is one of the best readers in the biz)

But that's just me.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: catkins522 on September 28, 2005, 01:18:51 AM
[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Sep 27 2005, 11:11 PM\']If there were a way to make a hybrid- announcer, I would mix Randy's enthusiam and call-downs with Rich's copy reading (who i feel is one of the best readers in the biz)
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The new announcer for TPiR.....RoboRod!

Charles
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: CarShark on September 28, 2005, 01:49:12 AM
I think that Rich is doing a very good job. The only thing that he does that I find weird is that he says, "A new caaaaaah!", like he's from Boston. I'm just glad that Randy West or Daniel Rosen didn't get it.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Don Howard on September 28, 2005, 03:52:33 AM
[quote name=\'TPIRFan\' date=\'Sep 27 2005, 06:31 PM\']I still think Burton Richardson.....should've gotten the job.
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No, no, no, no. That voice works on the over-the-top Family
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Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on September 28, 2005, 04:01:21 AM
[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Sep 27 2005, 10:49 PM\']I'm just glad that Randy West or Daniel Rosen didn't get it.
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Wow, that's an awfully crappy thing to say about an active member of this forum.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on September 28, 2005, 06:25:23 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 03:01 AM\'][quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Sep 27 2005, 10:49 PM\']I'm just glad that Randy West or Daniel Rosen didn't get it.
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Wow, that's an awfully crappy thing to say about an active member of this forum.
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Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Timsterino on September 28, 2005, 06:33:22 AM
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Am I the only one who finds Rich Fields over the top and annoying on The Price is Right? He sounds like a screechy old lady when he says "Here it Comes!" and sounds too amateur in his announcing.
No, you're not. The few times I've heard him he seems to have picked up some of the bad habits Rod Roddy developed to deal with his voice-cracking issues.

Just my opinion.
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I tend to agree for generally the same reasons. I thought Randy did a better job, but I am a bit biased. ;-)
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on September 28, 2005, 06:36:26 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 02:52 AM\'][quote name=\'TPIRFan\' date=\'Sep 27 2005, 06:31 PM\']I still think Burton Richardson.....should've gotten the job.
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Sorry if there are rules against double posting, but, (I felt) that Burton sounded professional and just all around good (Same for Randy). (He's been announcing for 20+ years) (Rich Fields "announced" on Flamingo Fortune, which basically was just saying the beginning and ending {poorly}.)
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: jmangin on September 28, 2005, 08:48:33 AM
I honestly can't stand to listen to Rich shriek through the copy on a daily basis.  There is no reason he should be yelling at the top of his lungs into a mic.  Yes, we all know that it is truly loud in the studio...but that's still no excuse to SCREAM.  It hurts my ears!!  His normal speaking voice is abrasive enough already without raising his volume so high that his voice cracks.  

I also find it incredibly annoying that his inflection rarely changes between introducing a car and when he plugs $1,000 worth of coinage.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 28, 2005, 12:17:44 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 03:01 AM\']Wow, that's an awfully crappy thing to say about an active member of this forum.
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Ah, well.  Are you surprised?
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Sorry if there are rules against double posting, but, (I felt) that Burton sounded professional and just all around good (Same for Randy). (He's been announcing for 20+ years)
That's an awful lot of parenthesis and brackets there, cowpoke!  Just remember that tenure doesn't necessarily mean he's better.  (And if you're talking about Burton--he's not).
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: cmjb13 on September 28, 2005, 12:45:51 PM
After hearing all the different voices on the Price DVD, it just reaffirms how good I thought Art Sanders, Don Bishop & Jim Thornon were. (even though I have a tough time telling Don & Jim apart)

Not saying that the others were bad...

OK. Daniel was.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: CarShark on September 28, 2005, 12:49:52 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 03:01 AM\'][quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Sep 27 2005, 10:49 PM\']I'm just glad that Randy West or Daniel Rosen didn't get it.
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Well, he's always said that if someone didn't like his announcing it was no skin off his nose, so I thought it would be OK.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 28, 2005, 01:18:59 PM
[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 11:49 AM\']Well, he's always said that if someone didn't like his announcing it was no skin off his nose, so I thought it would be OK.
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Just me, but there's a difference in saying "I don't like your announcing style" and "I'm glad you're unemployed".
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: CarShark on September 28, 2005, 01:25:29 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 12:18 PM\'][quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 11:49 AM\']Well, he's always said that if someone didn't like his announcing it was no skin off his nose, so I thought it would be OK.
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Just me, but there's a difference in saying "I don't like your announcing style" and "I'm glad you're unemployed".
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I'm not saying I don't want him to ever get a job. I'm just glad he didn't get this particular job.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on September 28, 2005, 01:50:10 PM
[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 10:25 AM\']I'm not saying I don't want him to ever get a job. I'm just glad he didn't get this particular job.
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Title: Rich Fields
Post by: tvrandywest on September 28, 2005, 02:04:32 PM
Kids, play nice.

As far as posters' personal preferences concerning style, no offense is ever taken by me. I purposely have never posted to golden-road.net, especially when the whole announcer debate was raging, because I wanted to keep the dialogue pure. I was already a member here, but have never wanted that to inhibit the open and honest expressions of opinions.  

As far as courtesy and politeness, why should I be given any more respect than anyone else by posters who are lacking in social graces? I've never understood the whole character asassination thing that is rampant in many net forums, but I know it's all part of the game. So talk, debate, discuss, and even flame if you feel you must. That's a problem for the moderators, not me.

Finally, to the other point raised, I don't mind having the IRS think I'm unemployed. But the fact of the matter is I'm hard at work, and still wish I could clone myself to avoid the problems associated with being double-booked and triple-booked. For example, I had THREE jobs this Sunday, 10/2, before deciding against both Atlantic City and Las Vegas to fulfill my longterm committment with Jonathan Goodson in L.A.. So, with Fremantle's extreme kindness, understanding, generosity and cooperation, I will be flying back and forth across the country in the next few days.

Finally, for what it's worth, I've slowly learned to dial down my own personal criticism of people's job performance when it comes to areas in which have have limited knowledge or experience.


Randy
tvrandywest.com
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on September 28, 2005, 02:20:18 PM
That might be the greatest post I've read here in a very long time. :)
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FeudDude on September 28, 2005, 03:01:28 PM
My opinion: Rich definately has some good qualities - he shows the appropriate level of enthusiasm at all times, his interaction with Bob is solid, he has the pacing of the show down to a "T", and above all, it's clear that he is very passionate about the job.  However, I just don't think his voice is very well-suited to game show announcing.  It's not so bad when he's reading prize copy, but his "COME ON DOWN"s and other similar exclamations have a certain nasally, screechy quality to them that really grates on me sometimes.

My completely honest opinion is that Randy was the only one who had the right personality AND voice for the show (even if his voice did crack a bit).   Burton interacted very well with Bob and his pacing was on point, but he just couldn't shake off that corny "top 40 DJ puke" sound.  Art Sanders would have been fine if he had actually made an effort to interact with Bob.  Jim Thornton had solid interaction, read copy very well, and had a certain warmth to his delivery that I liked, but he just lacked that extra "oomph" needed for TPiR.   Roger Rose and Don Bishop just couldn't seem to grasp the proper timing and enthusiasm levels for the different parts of the show, although in all fairness both of them only got one week.  And the less said about Daniel Rosen, the better.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on September 28, 2005, 03:10:51 PM
Rich Fields affects a style which I can best describe as a "Mr. Microphone" caricature of a game show announcer, a style which I deplore. It is not natural and not conversant. It just sounds schlocky. The people who have done this job best over the decades never affected such a style, from Johnny O. to Gene Wood to Kenny Williams to Johnny Jacobs to Charlie O'Donnell to Johnny Gilbert to Jay Stewart to Rod Roddy to our beloved R.W. -- the list goes on. They project "Enthusiasm" and "Energy", both with a capital "E", but are/were skilled enough to make it natural and conversant at the same time.

The O.P. asked for our honest opinions and we've certainly been forthcoming.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: cmjb13 on September 28, 2005, 03:13:13 PM
Well said FeudDude. You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Wonder how Paul Boland would have done if he was invited back?

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Art Sanders would have been fine if he had actually made an effort to interact with Bob
Wonder how you would feel if they hired Art without continuing the search as was originally planned.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Jumpondees on September 28, 2005, 03:15:42 PM
You know...if this fourm was around back in the days after Johnny O. passed on...I would bet dollars to Krispy Kremes that we would all have had this same discussion about Rod taking over for Johnny.

As for my personal feelings on the matter, I would have rather seen Randy get the gig over Rich...IMHO I just felt more comfortable listening to someone who I'm familiar with rather than a "stranger".  Rich on the other hand, who really heard of him outside of his radio work/previous tv experience prior to getting the job?  That same question could have been asked about Rod when he got the job...There were many more highly qualified announcers in Hollywood at the time, but Rod was practically an "unknown" talent himself on a national stage when he got TPIR....Yeah, Rod did a couple of game shows and some v/o work on a primetime tv series, not to mention his years of radio work before getting a job that would last him almost 20 years, but it's going to be his connection to TPIR, not Soap, not Hit Man, not PYL, that America will remember him for.

Now that it has been a year since Rich's installment as announcer on TPIR, I've gotten over some of my personal dislike for the guy because I'm now used to what is "his style", and that's what I now realize what makes that position on the show special...the style of the person doing the job.  I would love to ask Bob what made Rich stand out above everyone else...I almost bet that Bob would not have one negative thing to say about Randy, Burton, or anyone else who auditioned for the job...I almost think that it was a matter of giving a "unknown" a shot at being made into a star.

Bottom line here...We compared (in our own way, pubically or not) Rod to Johnny when Rod got the job, we're doing the same thing now with Rich, we all would have nitpicked anyone else who got the job (including Randy), and we will most certainly do the same with the person who succeeds Rich should that happen.  Everyone who does the job is going to say "A New CAR" differently...Everyone will have their own quirks when it comes to the TPIR announcing job, and I think it's about time that we lay off of Rich and let him establish himself a bit more.  Who knows, maybe in some time, Rich will work out the other things that bug us about his style...I almost bet in 5 or 10 years from now that we'll be looking at Rich in the same light as we did for Johnny and Rod....But that's just my opinion
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on September 28, 2005, 03:22:08 PM
[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 12:15 PM\']I almost bet in 5 or 10 years from now that we'll be looking at Rich in the same light as we did for Johnny and Rod....But that's just my opinion
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Title: Rich Fields
Post by: CarShark on September 28, 2005, 03:28:40 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 02:10 PM\']Rich Fields affects a style which I can best describe as a "Mr. Microphone" caricature of a game show announcer, a style which I deplore.
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Burton always has an overly dramatic quality to his voice, that I liked on the flashy, schtick-y '94 PiR, but it seems a little "much" on Barker's show.

I hadn't heard Daniel Rosen announce much before I played the DVD game. Oh. My. Goodness. I thought you guys were just exaggerating about how bad he was. He was......just......goodness.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: MSTieScott on September 28, 2005, 04:06:43 PM
Randy and Rich were my top two picks. I will admit that Rich has a tendency to yell -- I remember some warm-ups where his voice would begin to scratch from yelling, all before the taping even began.

However, one thing I noticed about Randy's performance on the show was that he had a tendency to ad-lib within the copy. Nothing major, but some changes of word order or verb tense. It all sounded perfectly natural -- in fact, I was impressed that he could make those small changes while he was concentrating on announcing. I wonder if that went into the final decision -- there are some advertisers who could be very particular about the way their copy is read, and having the announcer change words on the fly could be a liability.

Of course, with all of that copy, no one is going to be able to announce the show perfectly every day.

--
Scott Robinson
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on September 28, 2005, 04:41:05 PM
[quote name=\'jmangin\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 07:48 AM\']I honestly can't stand to listen to Rich shriek through the copy on a daily basis.  There is no reason he should be yelling at the top of his lungs into a mic.  Yes, we all know that it is truly loud in the studio...but that's still no excuse to SCREAM.  It hurts my ears!!  His normal speaking voice is abrasive enough already without raising his volume so high that his voice cracks. 

I also find it incredibly annoying that his inflection rarely changes between introducing a car and when he plugs $1,000 worth of coinage.
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Exactly. I worry about Rich losing his voice or getting sued for busting someone's eardrum because he is so loud. Randy knew when to tone it down, Burton knew when to tune it down, There is a difference between being enthusiastic and screaming.

[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 02:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Jumpondees\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 12:15 PM\']I almost bet in 5 or 10 years from now that we'll be looking at Rich in the same light as we did for Johnny and Rod....But that's just my opinion
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The only way I would not doubt that, is when/if Rich finally decides to TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE.  

In other words, Rich is awful and I will never live it down that he got picked over Burton, Randy, or Roger.

Anyway, here were my rankings.

1.Burton
2.Randy
3.Roger Rose
4.Art Sanders
5.Jim Thornton
6.Don Bishop

*insert large gap*

7.Rich Fields
8.Daniel Rosen
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TalkingHeadsFan on September 28, 2005, 05:15:54 PM
I think it was Mr. Barker himself who said "when Rich tells people to Come On Down!, it's happy! It's a happy voice!" His tone of voice and his enthusiasm certainly give off a genuine, natural vibe that fits the show perfectly. In my opinion, Rich is the most natural sounding person who's ever been behind the mic, aside from Johnny O. If we were to compare Rich's performance from his auditions, to current, I'd say he's made a hell of an improvement. I hated him during auditions, but he's improved so drastically, I now think he's doing a fine job. However, considering they made Rich the permanent announcer based on that audition is quite iffy. At that time, I would not have chosen him, I would have chosen Randy.

I've always felt that the best announcers never sounded like their stereotype, which is exactly why Burton was terrible on TPiR.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on September 28, 2005, 05:23:38 PM
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Bottom line here...We compared (in our own way, pubically or not) Rod to Johnny when Rod got the job, we're doing the same thing now with Rich, we all would have nitpicked anyone else who got the job (including Randy), and we will most certainly do the same with the person who succeeds Rich should that happen. Everyone who does the job is going to say "A New CAR" differently...Everyone will have their own quirks when it comes to the TPIR announcing job, and I think it's about time that we lay off of Rich and let him establish himself a bit more. Who knows, maybe in some time, Rich will work out the other things that bug us about his style...I almost bet in 5 or 10 years from now that we'll be looking at Rich in the same light as we did for Johnny and Rod
This is nonsense. Crummy announcing is crummy announcing. Hire the right individual and a five-year learning curve won't be required. This is not to say that Rich Fields can't be reformed through intensive coaching. I have to question whether Rich has had any formal voice training to begin with. My guess is that he has not.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FeudDude on September 28, 2005, 06:09:58 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 05:23 PM\']I have to question whether Rich has had any formal voice training to begin with. My guess is that he has not.
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Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on September 28, 2005, 06:44:40 PM
[quote name=\'TalkingHeadsFan\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 04:15 PM\']I think it was Mr. Barker himself who said "when Rich tells people to Come On Down!, it's happy! It's a happy voice!" His tone of voice and his enthusiasm certainly give off a genuine, natural vibe that fits the show perfectly. In my opinion, Rich is the most natural sounding person who's ever been behind the mic, aside from Johnny O. If we were to compare Rich's performance from his auditions, to current, I'd say he's made a hell of an improvement. I hated him during auditions, but he's improved so drastically, I now think he's doing a fine job. However, considering they made Rich the permanent announcer based on that audition is quite iffy. At that time, I would not have chosen him, I would have chosen Randy.

I've always felt that the best announcers never sounded like their stereotype, which is exactly why Burton was terrible on TPiR.
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Happy? I guess you could call overly-enthusiastic to just plain screaming happy. But how happy is too happy.

Natural? I can hardly call shouting HERE IT COMES! and LOVELY SERVEWARE! (OK, the last one was sarcastic, but, you get my point) so loud that you might have to take a Tylenol is not natural.

Improvement? If he's made any improvement, It's hardly noticable. He still growls when he says Bob's name, screeches during the "Here it comes!" on in Rich's tone HERE IT COMES!, and he still has that nasaly annoying voice on almost every single one of his prize plugs.

On some of his announcing, I think Daniel Rosen could do a better job.  

But, there are those people @ golden-road.net (Yes, I am a member there, under a different name though) who first acted like he was awful now all of a sudden has turned in to a "great announcer", who you're basically not allowed to say anything the least negative about, or else you get screamed at. (I like that website though, great people, great website), but anyway, back on topic, the only thing I like about Rich is that he does some prize plugs good.

He just has such a nasty and annoying voice, it sticks in your head and you can't get it out. He is going to give people nightmares one day.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: mystery7 on September 28, 2005, 07:09:31 PM
Here's what I'm thinking about each of the announcers, for what little it's worth:

Randy: learned from the best, so it follows that he is one of the best. He nailed my legal last name at TPiL last year, and that, for me, is enough.  Ad-libbing around stodgy copy is also a plus. My only nitpick is that he can sound a little too dramatic in that copy.

Burton: his overenunciation and "puker" style didn't wear well for such an announcer-intensive show. Too much of an act.

Art: Coulda been a contenda.

Roger: had to grope for the list of contestants once when Bob cued him for the next name. Need I say more?

Daniel: chosen strictly for his warmup, I'll bet. Even then, a questionable choice. C'mon, a juggler? A furking juggler? Yeah, he's also a standup comic, but still.... And I won't start about his actual announcing.

Rich: a garden-variety weatherman who got a REALLY lucky break. He could stand to turn his enthusiasm knob down to about 9 or 10 for cars and "come on down". I think his diction is a little lazy in spots, and he doesn't have the midrange that gave Rod such a commanding presence.

I didn't hear enough of Jim or Don to form an opinion of them. And from out of left field, I'm a little disappointed Bob Hilton wasn't considered.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on September 28, 2005, 07:54:16 PM
Allegedly Bob Hilton was given the job in a way...he could have accepted the gig and the auditions would have never happened.  Instead, he passed on it.

Rich is very personable and can go from a COME ON DOWN (or as he says "CAMMMMMMMMMMM AWNNNNN DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!") to a straight IUFB read in a nice manner.  

In the auditions, there was one thing I noticed that Rich grapsed a bit better than the other folks.  Timing.  Specifically, he nailed the door reveals.  Most of the other announcers waited for the doors to completely open and then name the prize.  Some more so, think Roger Rose...some less so, think Randy West.  In my opinion, just as the doors start to open, when you get a glimpse of the prize, the announcer should start his spiel.  It's a little thing, but the little things mean so much to some, I guess.

Full assessment:
Rich Fields - I actually had a hunch from his first audition he'd get the gig.  Solid voice and delivery...not overpowering really.  Can get amped up with the crowd when needed, and go into the straight read well.  And, hey the fans of the show, on the whole, seem to like him.

Randy West - If Rich is 1, Randy is 1a on my list.  Trained by Johnny Olson, which is a plus and an advantage and a half, but at times seems to mirror Johnny O. in delivery a little too closely.  He knows the show like he knows what's down Aisle 5 at NBC in Burbank.  Bottom line: a great announcer, dare I say even better warm up act...oh he'll find work I think, lol.  Tip him if you go to the Showboat.

Jim Thornton - Never got a fair shake.  By the time his shows aired, the diehards had learned Rich had gotten the gig.  Jim had a solid delivery, wasn't too exciting but wasn't too depressing.

Burton Richardson - I like Burton, but I think he tried too hard in his outings.  I think he tried to distance himself from his style on TNPIR '94.  Good delivery, not bad on the enthusiasm, but he has the stereotypical Top 40 voice which can be good or bad depending on the octane in your tank.

Art Sanders - Art came off like he was trying to be the poor man's Randy West to me...his delivery was sort of patterned after him, but in a less effective manner.  Decent delivery...voice wasn't too my liking.  And he faked enthusiasm on the big prize reveals.  Sorry folks, he's overrated in my book.

THE CUTOFF REALLY BEGINS HERE:

Don Bishop - Shits and giggles.  I'm sorry, that's what comes to mind.  He was amped up on Jolt cola which actually may have been a good thing.  Two problems though: 1) No interaction with Bob.  2) He placed his accents in his reads in very weird spots if you notice and listen to clips.  For what it's worth, I liked his intro for Bob...different yet neat and upbeat.  Oh and his ticket plug (which I am willing to bet had to be re-recorded for post production)...just not good.

Roger Rose - Go back to VH1 for the love of...someone.  Rose was bland and had an accentuation problem.  He got more excited in the open then he did on a new car reveal.  Decent copy reader, hence he's the damned voiceover guy for UPN 57 here in Philly.  Who booked this guy for show 6000?  Was Randy at the Copa Cabana...was Burton doubling the points?

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnniel Rosen - O Danny Boy, your pipes...your pipes are noooooooooooothing.  Daniel's probably a solid comedian and an all around good guy.  That said, he's not a fit for Price.  Rosen was the equivalent of what a nasally Krusty the Clown might sound like announcing Price.  Has he improved on the stage show?

THE WILD CARD:
Paul Boland - I'm gonna take heat for this...I actually liked him.  He certainly had the energy for Price and that's half the battle.  I don't want to hear a guy who's like Strongsad telling me to "Come on Down!".  Should he have toned it down...a little, I guess...but come on people...it's television's most exciting game show.  It reeks of cheese and excitement...and Rod Roddy was nothing short of outlandish (and I mean that in a very good way, folks).

Hey, with all that said these folks had the experience that little old me could only dream of having, so just being considered is a tip of the hat on its own.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: SRIV94 on September 28, 2005, 09:35:29 PM
[quote name=\'FeudDude\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 05:09 PM\']Well, with all his years of broadcasting experience, I would imagine that he has had some.  Whether or not he adheres to what he learned back then is another story.
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(cue person with more caustic wit to insert punch line here)

Doug -- and the countdown to 1500 continues
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on September 28, 2005, 09:35:41 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 07:54 PM\']Allegedly Bob Hilton was given the job in a way...he could have accepted the gig and the auditions would have never happened.  Instead, he passed on it.
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I'd be very interested to know where you heard that, because that's not even remotely close to the way I've heard Barker felt about the announcer position immediately after Rod died.

[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 03:15 PM\']Bottom line here...We compared (in our own way, pubically or not) Rod to Johnny when Rod got the job
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No, I can honestly say I have never done that.  I will grant that I was only 3 at the time, but I really don't think it would have mattered. ;-)
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on September 28, 2005, 09:42:52 PM
I say allegedly because I believe it was posted on the Golden Road forum somewhere.  Hence my use of the word allegedly.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 28, 2005, 09:50:04 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 08:35 PM\']I'd be very interested to know where you heard that, because that's not even remotely close to the way I've heard Barker felt about the announcer position immediately after Rod died.
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So...Bob Hilton could have had it after Johnny O died; *and* after Rod died?  Or are we just talking about after Johnny Olsen died?
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on September 28, 2005, 09:55:52 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 06:42 PM\']I say allegedly because I believe it was posted on the Golden Road forum somewhere.  Hence my use of the word allegedly.
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Fine.

"Allegedly, FOXSportsFan is a complete moron."

I say this because I believe someone posted this on a random forum somewhere. Hence my use of the word allegedly.

See the danger here?
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FeudDude on September 28, 2005, 10:02:48 PM
Here's (http://\"http://golden-road.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=45267\") the thread on G-R about Bob Hilton being offered the job.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on September 28, 2005, 10:19:55 PM
[quote name=\'FeudDude\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 07:02 PM\']Here's (http://\"http://golden-road.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=45267\") the thread on G-R about Bob Hilton being offered the job.
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And still I don't see one iota of proof, other than the say-so of a guy who punctuates badly and doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on September 28, 2005, 10:24:13 PM
Hence the word allegedly.  I never said it was the gospel.  For all we know on the GR thread, it's the statement of a bowling buddy...or it could be Lemon's second cousin-twice removed-once reinstated.

Hey, let's get back on topic!
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Don Howard on September 28, 2005, 10:51:08 PM
My source is first-hand on the successions. Bob Hilton himself is the source. And he told me he was offered Johnny O.'s job "but couldn't give them the full-time commitment they wanted". That's a direct quote from an e-mail sent to me from Bob many years ago. Also, he was offered an audition (along with Rich, Burton, Randy and the others) after Rod passed away and he declined.
And so it goes.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: JayDLewis on September 28, 2005, 10:55:14 PM
I've warmed up to Rich, I think he's doing OK and seems like a nice enough guy. (Yeah, yeah lots of nice guys out there, they aren't announcing...whatever)

My opinion has always been that Randy was too much of a character. He sounded a little like Rod and Johnny. Maybe Barker's ego wasn't thrilled at the prospect of having another "star" (Ie. someone as recognizable as himself) on the show. So they went with a voice that doesn't really stand out.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on September 28, 2005, 10:57:20 PM
What's Hilton up to these days anyway?  I know he was a NoCal newsman for awhile and that he authored a book a couple of years back.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: mystery7 on September 29, 2005, 12:38:29 AM
He's living with his wife Joni and his family in California enjoying a life of clean living (http://\"http://www.holycowproducts.com/\").
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Jimmy Owen on September 29, 2005, 01:16:55 AM
I was kind of surprised that Rod Roddy had been given a tryout, since he had not worked for Goodson before.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on September 29, 2005, 06:32:20 AM
A little web scouring reveals that Bob Hilton left Hollywood circa 1990 - 1991 for Cedar Rapids, Iowa where he became a TV news anchor. He then moved to KOVR, Sacramento where he was an anchor from 1995 until February 2001. As best I can tell, today he is effectively retired from show business and is involved with his cleaning product company.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: zachhoran on September 29, 2005, 07:54:33 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 05:32 AM\']
Bob Hilton left Hollywood circa 1990 - 1991 for Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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He did make a brief return to LA to announce the TNPIR pilot hosted by Mark Kriski, no?
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: jmangin on September 29, 2005, 08:54:50 AM
[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 10:55 PM\'](I coulda said my 2 Queens but...this ain't San Francisco!)
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Is that really necessary?  Every gay person isn't effeminate, just as every Canadian doesn't end their statements with ", no?" and ", eh?"  You are so ignorant.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on September 29, 2005, 03:03:32 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 04:54 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 05:32 AM\']
Bob Hilton left Hollywood circa 1990 - 1991 for Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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He did make a brief return to LA to announce the TNPIR pilot hosted by Mark Kriski, no?
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He also used the men's room while he was here.

I'm glad we worked THAT piece of info into the discussion (ROLLS EYES).
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Jimmy Owen on September 29, 2005, 04:02:33 PM
He did do the Orlando version of LMAD in 90, though he may have lived elsewhere.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on September 29, 2005, 05:05:08 PM
Thanks for the FYI.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: BrandonFG on September 29, 2005, 06:47:01 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 02:03 PM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 04:54 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 05:32 AM\']
Bob Hilton left Hollywood circa 1990 - 1991 for Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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He also used the men's room while he was here.

I'm glad we worked THAT piece of info into the discussion (ROLLS EYES).
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Zach never ceases to amaze.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on September 29, 2005, 08:01:44 PM
I'm not amazed...I'm actually quite saddened by the man's pathetic attempts to "impress" with useless knowledge.  Zach, give it the frig up already.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on September 29, 2005, 09:38:10 PM
And Rich Fields does it again today with the annoyingly loud "Here it comes!" when will this guy ever learn to tone it down?  I almost needed an Ibuprofen listening to that.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: BrandonFG on September 29, 2005, 10:50:00 PM
[quote name=\'TPIRFan\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 08:38 PM\']And Rich Fields does it again today with the annoyingly loud "Here it comes!" when will this guy ever learn to tone it down?  I almost needed an Ibuprofen listening to that.
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I wonder if Fremantle is telling Rich to do all this. I notice TPiR has gotten considerably louder in recent years, and one big thing I've noticed is that the audience yells over every single thing, just like with Feud.

Bob: I've got a hangnail!
Audience: Yeeaaahhhhh! Wooooooo!

This is not a complaint, but I notice that Fremantle seems to think that yelling over everything automatically makes the show 10x exciting. In some cases, it's just annoying.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on September 30, 2005, 12:27:18 AM
Well, would you rather them have Michael Young come in and bore you to death?
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Don Howard on September 30, 2005, 01:40:17 AM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 11:27 PM\']Well, would you rather them have Michael Young come in and bore you to death?
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The star of Soap World, which used the 1970s Break The Bank theme--about the only good thing about that show.
Charlie O.: "Today, one lucky fan will drink from the bathwater of Thaao Penghlis!!"
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on September 30, 2005, 07:42:52 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 09:50 PM\'][quote name=\'TPIRFan\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 08:38 PM\']And Rich Fields does it again today with the annoyingly loud "Here it comes!" when will this guy ever learn to tone it down?  I almost needed an Ibuprofen listening to that.
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I wonder if Fremantle is telling Rich to do all this. I notice TPiR has gotten considerably louder in recent years, and one big thing I've noticed is that the audience yells over every single thing, just like with Feud.

Bob: I've got a hangnail!
Audience: Yeeaaahhhhh! Wooooooo!

This is not a complaint, but I notice that Fremantle seems to think that yelling over everything automatically makes the show 10x exciting. In some cases, it's just annoying.
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I don't know if it's Fremantle or not. I think it's just Rich's annoying style of announcing.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: cmjb13 on September 30, 2005, 08:18:19 PM
If you don't like him, let your voice be heard

http://www.cbs.com/daytime/price/community/voice/ (http://\"http://www.cbs.com/daytime/price/community/voice/\")
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on September 30, 2005, 10:26:07 PM
Bit late for that sadly. It looks like we're stuck with Rich "I LIKE TO YELL A LOT BECAUSE I THINK I HAVE TO BECAUSE I THINK IT MAKES ME A GOOD ANNOUNCER!" Fields for the forseeable future.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on September 30, 2005, 11:47:54 PM
Someone's drinking Haterade.  Does it have that deep down body thirst by chance?
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on October 01, 2005, 12:34:49 AM
[quote name=\'TPIRFan\' date=\'Sep 30 2005, 06:42 AM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 09:50 PM\'][quote name=\'TPIRFan\' date=\'Sep 29 2005, 08:38 PM\']And Rich Fields does it again today with the annoyingly loud "Here it comes!" when will this guy ever learn to tone it down?  I almost needed an Ibuprofen listening to that.
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I wonder if Fremantle is telling Rich to do all this. I notice TPiR has gotten considerably louder in recent years, and one big thing I've noticed is that the audience yells over every single thing, just like with Feud.

Bob: I've got a hangnail!
Audience: Yeeaaahhhhh! Wooooooo!

This is not a complaint, but I notice that Fremantle seems to think that yelling over everything automatically makes the show 10x exciting. In some cases, it's just annoying.
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I don't know if it's Fremantle or not. I think it's just Rich's annoying style of announcing.
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Wow...I did a quick search on all your posts, and OVER HALF of them are you berating Rich Fields. Look, just because you think he's a bad announcer doesn't mean you have to say it every ten seconds. Some of us like him. Some do not. But that doesn't mean you have to be all snippy about it and post how much you don't like him every day. Lord knows we don't need someone doing that too.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on October 01, 2005, 09:24:39 AM
Maybe TPiRFan oughta share an MP3 with their version or impression of how an announcer on Price should sound...seeing as how Rich is apparently so loud and annoying.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Don Howard on October 01, 2005, 12:31:14 PM
Would you prefer Rich Jeffries? OK, so Rich F. doesn't have that deep pipeness that Johnny O. had (and, for that matter, neither did Rod) but it's a likeable energetic style. I'm sure we could probably find fault with some of Johnny Gilbert's inflections if we telescoped them closely enough.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on October 01, 2005, 12:35:01 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Oct 1 2005, 08:24 AM\']Maybe TPiRFan oughta share an MP3 with their version or impression of how an announcer on Price should sound...seeing as how Rich is apparently so loud and annoying.
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http://www.spartanpages.com/announcers/burton.mp3 (http://\"http://www.spartanpages.com/announcers/burton.mp3\")

Happy now?
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on October 01, 2005, 05:19:54 PM
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http://www.spartanpages.com/announcers/burton.mp3
Yup, he did it. He actually did it. He made the word "comes" into a two-syllable word.

I can't frickin believe my ears. Well, yes I can. It's Burton.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TonicBH on October 01, 2005, 05:47:15 PM
I will say for the record that Rich Fields is no Rod Roddy. Only Rod Roddy is Rod Roddy.

I've heard the other announcers thanks to that Spartanpages link. Art Sanders was good, and Don Bishop had a good voice for the show, but lacked any form of interaction with Bob. And the less said about Daniel Rosen, the better. He's a competant announcer but doesn't fit Price, simple as that. The other announcers I felt indifferent about, except Randy.

Rich fits just fine on the show. As I stated, he's not Rod or Johnny, he holds his own, and it works fine.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on October 01, 2005, 05:57:17 PM
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Rich fits just fine on the show. As I stated, he's not Rod or Johnny
You have just rationalized having a subpar announcer. "A is inferior to B but I'll settle for the inferior goods."
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TonicBH on October 01, 2005, 06:05:32 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 1 2005, 04:57 PM\']
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Well, think about this for a moment: We could've ended up with Burton or Daniel. Besides, we can't bring people back from the dead (yet), so we have to suffice with this.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 01, 2005, 06:09:00 PM
[quote name=\'TonicBH\' date=\'Oct 1 2005, 03:05 PM\']Well, think about this for a moment: We could've ended up with Burton or Daniel. Besides, we can't bring people back from the dead (yet), so we have to suffice with this.
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No, we don't. They are more competent, still-living candidates out there. (Heck, I can think of one person who contributes regularly to this forum right off the top of my head.) And being satisfied with mediocrity just because we could have had someone worse isn't how I choose to live life. :)
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Don Howard on October 01, 2005, 07:32:01 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 1 2005, 05:09 PM\'][quote name=\'TonicBH\' date=\'Oct 1 2005, 03:05 PM\']Well, think about this for a moment: We could've ended up with Burton or Daniel. Besides, we can't bring people back from the dead (yet), so we have to suffice with this.
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No, we don't. They are more competent, still-living candidates out there. (Heck, I can think of one person who contributes regularly to this forum right off the top of my head.)
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Thank you, Chris. That's very nice. But I wasn't granted an audition, so I was left to root from the sidelines.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on October 01, 2005, 09:13:13 PM
No, I think he meant me, Don...I KEED!  I KEED!  

But, on a very off-topic and vague at best parallel, today was my first outing on what my new boss called "professional television" and it was in a sense an audition for a possible gig with the broadcasters involved.  Quinn Broadcasting based in Southern NJ held a telethon for 7 hours today and I served as a field reporter from one of the major donation dropoff locations.  We raised over $20,000 (mostly cash, the rest supplies) for those folks along the Gulf Coast that are still recovering from Katrina.  It was such a great thing to be apart of, and I'm so glad and proud to have had a small role in the making of the production and the effort.  I did end up, unintentionally, evoking the words "Come on down" a time or two (alluding to Johnny Olson at one point actually, heh) to try to get people to come and make drop off donations.  But, hey it was fun and we helped raise a lot of money and helped pickup a lot of supplies.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on October 02, 2005, 10:04:53 AM
Hmm....Interesting story.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: CarShark on October 02, 2005, 07:16:22 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 1 2005, 04:57 PM\']
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I don't think so at all. He's just acknowledging that Rich is a different person from Johnny or Rod. I don't think that Rich subpar at all. I think Roddy was a lot closer to being south of par than anyone.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: gsnman on October 02, 2005, 07:35:13 PM
When I went to my first PRice is Right taping on my 23rd birthday a year ago, I had the pleasure of meeting Rich Fields on stage to do a mock COME ON DOWN that the audience loved.  It was cool interacting with him for a while, and I had to have his autograph a couple of weeks later.  

I went to a second taping last Spring Break, and thanks to my crazy friend Wesley, Bob and Rich called me Mr. Price is Right because of my love for the show.  Thanks to my friend, he also made a fool out of me, that put Bob and Rich in stitches.  It was all good, because I got to hear Rich Fields laughing.  

I wish I could go to a third taping this or next year.  That would be tight!
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 02, 2005, 07:41:34 PM
[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 04:16 PM\']I don't think so at all. He's just acknowledging that Rich is a different person from Johnny or Rod. I don't think that Rich subpar at all. I think Roddy was a lot closer to being south of par than anyone.
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Roddy being a poorer announcer is really irrelevant, though. The issue most people have is that it was pretty clear to most of us that Fields was not the best qualified candidate for the job, (You seem to disagree with this, and that's your opinion. Wrong, but your opinion. :)) And TonicBH's argument is "Well, he's a step up from Roddy," which is great, but that doesn't make Fields not "subpar", especially when it's widely agreed that better candidates existed.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on October 02, 2005, 07:46:37 PM
Hey, bottom line...as others have said.  We could have done a lot worse.  And, to the Rich haters, look at it from this way.  When Bob goes, Rich may go too (unless he gets whisked into hosting which actually may be a possibility...not one I wanna see, but still).
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FeudDude on October 02, 2005, 08:05:48 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 07:46 PM\']Hey, bottom line...as others have said.  We could have done a lot worse.  And, to the Rich haters, look at it from this way.  When Bob goes, Rich may go too (unless he gets whisked into hosting which actually may be a possibility...not one I wanna see, but still).
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I actually think it's possible that Rich would be better as a host than he is as an announcer.  I mean, he seems to have the warmth, friendliness, and enthusiasm for it, and unlike with his current job, having a good voice isn't all that important.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 02, 2005, 08:24:26 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 04:46 PM\']Hey, bottom line...as others have said.  We could have done a lot worse.
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The complaint is not that we could have done worse, that was evident (see Rosen, Daniel). The complaint is that we did not get the BEST, and there was no reason not to give it to us.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 02, 2005, 08:26:31 PM
[quote name=\'FeudDude\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 07:05 PM\']I mean, he seems to have the warmth, friendliness, and enthusiasm for it, and unlike with his current job, having a good voice isn't all that important.
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It's not?  Name one emcee, who didn't have a good voice.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 02, 2005, 08:32:41 PM
My thought is that they are grooming Mr. Fields for future on-camera work for Fremantle and that is why he got the nod.

I don't think it matters anymore whether one can speak clearly to get a high-profile announcing job.  Just ask the current "Tonight Show" announcer.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 02, 2005, 08:35:59 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 05:26 PM\']It's not?  Name one emcee, who didn't have a good voice.
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Louie Anderson. Chuck Barris. Plus a metric ton of people who, while they were photogenic and good hosts, would have been perfectly awful off-camera announcers.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 02, 2005, 08:41:05 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 05:26 PM\']It's not?  Name one emcee, who didn't have a good voice.
Louie Anderson.
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Fair enough.  How soon I forget.  Perhaps I should have added the prerequisite of being a "good" emcee. ;)
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 02, 2005, 08:42:01 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 05:32 PM\']I don't think it matters anymore whether one can speak clearly to get a high-profile announcing job.  Just ask the current "Tonight Show" announcer.
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Who went through, I'm told, a LOT of voice training and work on his stuttering to get/keep that job. And you know, whenever I watch Leno (which is often these days - I'm surprised to find that Letterman tires me these days), I listen to him do the top of the show, and I say to myself "Good for him. He shut up a lot of naysayers."
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on October 02, 2005, 08:51:18 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 06:46 PM\']And, to the Rich haters, look at it from this way.  When Bob goes, Rich may go too.
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And WHY would we want to see Bob go? We don't like Rich because he is a horrible announcer and was not the best pick for the job. Bob has nothing to do with it.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 02, 2005, 08:53:36 PM
The point is that "Stuttering John" made his name as someone who had difficulty speaking.  How much money on intensive training would be spent for someone who could speak properly?  It's like hiring somebody to host a game show but before hitting the air, thousands of $ in plastic surgery would have to be performed.  Why not hire someone who didn't need the surgery?
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 02, 2005, 10:14:03 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 05:53 PM\']The point is that "Stuttering John" made his name as someone who had difficulty speaking.
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And it's still irrelevant. Has he ever stuttered on the show? Have they ever MENTIONED that he stuttered on the show? No. (At least, not that I know of. Maybe I'm wrong there.) He's done the job just fine ever since he's had it, and I never noticed them make a publicity stunt out of it.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Casey on October 02, 2005, 10:31:22 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 07:24 PM\']The complaint is not that we could have done worse, that was evident (see Rosen, Daniel). The complaint is that we did not get the BEST, and there was no reason not to give it to us.
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Do we know all of the details behind the decision to hire Rich over any of the other folks who auditioned?  Was someone else in line ahead of Rich and couldn't for some reason?  ($$?)

It still seems like an awful lot of folks bitching about something they had and have no influence over anyway.....
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 02, 2005, 10:38:31 PM
[quote name=\'isucgv\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 07:31 PM\']Do we know all of the details behind the decision to hire Rich over any of the other folks who auditioned?  Was someone else in line ahead of Rich and couldn't for some reason?  ($$?)
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It still seems like an awful lot of folks bitching about something they had and have no influence over anyway.....
Ah, but allegedly we DID, CBS made it very clear that they wanted input from viewers during that period where they had Randy and etc. filling in between Rod leaving (and subsequently passing away) and Fields' hiring. I think that's what cheeses a lot of people: the faux-interest on the part of CBS followed immediately by a hiring decision very few people seem to agree with.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FeudDude on October 02, 2005, 11:14:06 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 08:42 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 05:32 PM\']I don't think it matters anymore whether one can speak clearly to get a high-profile announcing job.  Just ask the current "Tonight Show" announcer.
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Who went through, I'm told, a LOT of voice training and work on his stuttering to get/keep that job.
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This is true.  And besides - correct me if I'm wrong - I'm under the impression that one's habits during casual conversation wouldn't neccesarily carry over into copy-reading.  

And yeah, I also think Melendez does a fine job on the Tonight Show.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 02, 2005, 11:17:35 PM
Trying to be as delicate as possible; in a less-enlightened time a stutterer would not be in the running for a network announcing job.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on October 02, 2005, 11:50:56 PM
[quote name=\'TPIRFan\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 07:51 PM\'][quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 06:46 PM\']And, to the Rich haters, look at it from this way.  When Bob goes, Rich may go too.
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And WHY would we want to see Bob go? We don't like Rich because he is a horrible announcer and was not the best pick for the job. Bob has nothing to do with it.
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Uh, my moronic yet humble colleague, Bob can't host forever.  And, sure he has plenty to do with it...he had a hand in it.  So, I dare ask did Fields get hired by way of both voice and looks?  I mean if I get what some of you presume, he's being groomed for face time.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: CarShark on October 03, 2005, 08:59:42 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 09:38 PM\']Ah, but allegedly we DID, CBS made it very clear that they wanted input from viewers during that period where they had Randy and etc. filling in between Rod leaving (and subsequently passing away) and Fields' hiring. I think that's what cheeses a lot of people: the faux-interest on the part of CBS followed immediately by a hiring decision very few people seem to agree with.
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Title: Rich Fields
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on October 03, 2005, 10:25:46 AM
[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 07:59 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 09:38 PM\']Ah, but allegedly we DID, CBS made it very clear that they wanted input from viewers during that period where they had Randy and etc. filling in between Rod leaving (and subsequently passing away) and Fields' hiring. I think that's what cheeses a lot of people: the faux-interest on the part of CBS followed immediately by a hiring decision very few people seem to agree with.
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It just brings back the important fact...

We're not the only ones who vote.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 03, 2005, 01:12:24 PM
[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 07:25 AM\']It just brings back the important fact...

We're not the only ones who vote.
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I proudly present:

http://www.ecotopia.com/webpress/stupidity/ (http://\"http://www.ecotopia.com/webpress/stupidity/\")
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: tvrandywest on October 03, 2005, 01:36:45 PM
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Did they ever release who finished where? I know that many people here voted for West, but it still could be possible that more people outside of the game show community voted for Fields. We'll never know...
There are CBS personnel and others who are close to TPiR who have given me verbal information on the results of that voting. The casting was clearly (and perhaps rightfully) based on other factors.

Randy
tvrandywest.com
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: tyshaun1 on October 03, 2005, 01:56:00 PM
[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 01:36 PM\']There are CBS personnel and others who are close to TPiR who have given me verbal information on the results of that voting. The casting was clearly (and perhaps rightfully) based on other factors.

Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Translation: Rich did not finish first in the voting. What, then, did they decide on who got the job?

Tyshaun
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TonicBH on October 03, 2005, 02:04:10 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 2 2005, 06:41 PM\']And TonicBH's argument is "Well, he's a step up from Roddy," which is great, but that doesn't make Fields not "subpar", especially when it's widely agreed that better candidates existed.
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Just keep in mind that when I was born, I had never heard of some guy named Johnny Olsen, I had heard of Rod Roddy. Of course, thanks to various TPiR websites, I've heard the voice of Olsen, and both Johnny and Rod, to me, are good announcers. Personally I was hoping for Randy West as well, but only because most of the other candidates weren't as qualified. Except maybe Art Sanders, from what I've heard.

By the way, did Rich ever have a week of shows where he guest-announced, before he was announced the permanent announcer? Sounds like a dumb question, but I was in school when this whole "New announcer part deux" audition was going on.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 03, 2005, 02:10:10 PM
[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 10:56 AM\']Translation: Rich did not finish first in the voting. What, then, did they decide on who got the job?
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Height.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FeudDude on October 03, 2005, 02:58:04 PM
[quote name=\'TonicBH\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 02:04 PM\']By the way, did Rich ever have a week of shows where he guest-announced, before he was announced the permanent announcer? Sounds like a dumb question, but I was in school when this whole "New announcer part deux" audition was going on.
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Rich was the third-to-last announcer to audition (Don Bishop and Jim Thornton came after him), and had two audition weeks.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Stackertosh on October 03, 2005, 03:06:25 PM
i was rooting for burtion to get the job since he did alot of shows. i liked rich at first but he got annoying with the come on down's and the new car. he just trys too hard to sound exciting
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FPGWillyT on October 03, 2005, 05:06:22 PM
I'm sorry clemon79 I'm still confused by your posts.

Are you saying you "like" or "don't like" Rich Fields?!?!?!?

As far as comparing A vs B vs C as the announcers go, I grew up as a kiddo in the 70's so I have the benefit of "knowing" all three announcers.  How anyone can place them side by side and say one was better than the other is really beyond my comprehensions.

Each announcer had their own style and brought whatever that was to the show.  Why would Rod have emulated Johnny when he took over, and why would Rich emulate either of the others as well?

As far as who did or did not and should or should not have gotten the job, I guess that's not for anyone to decide.  I personally think Rich does a fantastic job announcing the show.  I don't hear Johnny or Rod when I hear Rich and really don't want to.  I want the memories of those voices to remain exactly that:  fond memories.

Anyway, that's my two cents.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 03, 2005, 06:24:56 PM
[quote name=\'Stackertosh\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 12:06 PM\']i was rooting for burtion to get the job since he did alot of shows.
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Yeah, that's a FINE criteria.
[quote name=\'FPGWillyT\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 02:06 PM\']I'm sorry clemon79 I'm still confused by your posts.
Are you saying you "like" or "don't like" Rich Fields?!?!?!?
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I don't think he's absolutely horrible, there are far worse announcers as the game show business goes. (Burton Richardson comes IMMEDIATELY to mind.) I certainly don't think he's remarkable, though, and no WAY would I put him in a class with Johnny Olsen.

This (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8913&view=findpost&p=98204\") comment said "if you don't like Rich, tell CBS." My point has simply been that CBS didn't listen to us when it came to the original hiring decision, so I see no reason why they would listen to us now.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on October 03, 2005, 07:25:49 PM
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There are CBS personnel and others who are close to TPiR who have given me verbal information on the results of that voting. The casting was clearly (and perhaps rightfully) based on other factors.
It IS Fremantle, after all.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: cmjb13 on October 03, 2005, 07:36:59 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 06:24 PM\']This (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8913&view=findpost&p=98204\") comment said "if you don't like Rich, tell CBS." My point has simply been that CBS didn't listen to us when it came to the original hiring decision, so I see no reason why they would listen to us now.
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I meant that as a joke. More than anything to show they still had the poll up.

Speaking with Randy in AC, he's grateful for the opportunity to have done it.

I gather it's a hell of a lot more than he ever thought he'd accomplish. So in that regard, he's already won.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 03, 2005, 07:41:58 PM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 04:36 PM\']Speaking with Randy in AC, he's grateful for the opportunity to have done it.

I gather it's a hell of a lot more than he ever thought he'd accomplish. So in that regard, he's already won.
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Sure he has. I shed no tears for Randy, in many ways the whole thing has worked out better than he could have hoped, and I'm thrilled to see that he's doing just fine.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: chris319 on October 04, 2005, 03:10:52 AM
TPIR Live basically has to fill the house every night. Harrah's takes care of the venues, and as long as the tourism industry holds up they will have a steady stream of paying audience members. No worries about what happens when their old geezer emcee kicks the bucket, or the network wants a younger demographic, or they've lost their clearance in market X which is running them at 2:30 am, or the mobility scooter company/Liberty Mutual has cut their ad budget, or CBS wants to give the hour over to soaps, bla bla bla. The live show may thus have a more solid business model than the TV show.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on October 05, 2005, 05:09:16 PM
Wow, today's show was the first where Rich didn't yell as much during the intro. Mayvbe he (finally) toned it down.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: jmangin on October 06, 2005, 08:20:11 PM
I'm not sure what you were watching, but there was clearly shouting going on.  He sounds like he gargles shards of glass.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: FOXSportsFan on October 06, 2005, 08:33:27 PM
Can you sound any better?
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: clemon79 on October 06, 2005, 09:05:04 PM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Oct 6 2005, 05:33 PM\']Can you sound any better?
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Me? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I could.

That's still a crappy argument, though. You don't necessarily have to be able to perform a task yourself to recognize quality, or the lack of it, in the performance of that task. I will allow that there are situations where certainly a familiarity of the task might allow you to speak with more authority than you might have if you haven't done it, but, with all due respect to Randy, this is talking, and I think we have an idea how it SHOULD sound.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: LA the DJ on October 06, 2005, 09:38:51 PM
The more I listen to rich, the less I like him. I didn't mind him at first, but the highness in his voice when he announces a car, $10,000, or Bob Barker, is just shrill.
Even those who aren't gs fans notice. One of the other guys at work even made a comment about it when he announced the $10,000 on the punchboard.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on October 08, 2005, 09:31:26 AM
[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' date=\'Oct 6 2005, 08:38 PM\']The more I listen to rich, the less I like him. I didn't mind him at first, but the highness in his voice when he announces a car, $10,000, or Bob Barker, is just shrill.
Even those who aren't gs fans notice. One of the other guys at work even made a comment about it when he announced the $10,000 on the punchboard.
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Which is exactly why a lot of us don't like him.

I think he could be somewhat bearable if they got him some voice training, or if he just toned it down a little.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: TPIRFan on October 09, 2005, 07:24:46 PM
[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 12:56 PM\'][quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Oct 3 2005, 01:36 PM\']There are CBS personnel and others who are close to TPiR who have given me verbal information on the results of that voting. The casting was clearly (and perhaps rightfully) based on other factors.

Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Probably who could be the complete "yes man". I've heard Rich say "You got it!" more than anyone.

Pretty sad that Rich got the job even though he did not finish first.
Title: Rich Fields
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on October 09, 2005, 07:32:01 PM
Okay.  You don't like Rich Fields.  We get it.  Now for the love of God, please talk about something else.