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What sucks most about this was, we had a town here in Connecticut picked, bussed, and taped.... and now it will sit on a shelf never to be seen...
What sucks about that most, for me, was that not only did I get to go behind the scenes for a story, I also appeared on the show anchoring a segment for a stunt. That too, will never be seen.... and I was damn good. :)
I'll have to rely on Weather Channel live shots again for my national exposure....cause standing on I-95 counting inches of snow makes for great cable television.
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I'll ask for clarity: Those in tapings that won't be shown...do they still get to keep the prizes they received though their episode(s) didn't make air?
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Awwwww...dammit. I really liked MKOT.
Maybe they'll burn the rest off on ABC Family?
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 03:41 PM\']Awwwww...dammit. I really liked MKOT.
Maybe they'll burn the rest off on ABC Family?
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So did I, ive only seen episode one I havent had the chance to get any other yet hopefully sometime more will appear.
It goes to show that British hosts in the US just dont work, can anyone name a show succesfully hosted by someone born in the UK and having a British accent.
Other than Craig Ferguson after Letterman is the only person that comes to mind, but Scottish accent always goes down well ;)
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[quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 11:25 AM\']
It goes to show that British hosts in the US just dont work, can anyone name a show succesfully hosted by someone born in the UK and having a British accent.
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Well, there WAS this little show called Family Feud.......But it only ran for 9 years with Richard Dawson the first time, and 1 year the second time he hosted it. ;)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 10:30 AM\'][quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 11:25 AM\']
It goes to show that British hosts in the US just dont work, can anyone name a show succesfully hosted by someone born in the UK and having a British accent.
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Well, there WAS this little show called Family Feud.......But it only ran for 9 years with Richard Dawson the first time, and 1 year the second time he hosted it. ;)
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David Frost. Before the flames start he specify what kind of host.
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[quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 10:25 AM\']So did I, ive only seen episode one I havent had the chance to get any other yet hopefully sometime more will appear.
It goes to show that British hosts in the US just dont work, can anyone name a show succesfully hosted by someone born in the UK and having a British accent.
Other than Craig Ferguson after Letterman is the only person that comes to mind, but Scottish accent always goes down well ;)
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How about Jimmy Carr with Distraction. Weakest Link was successful before they decided to do all celebrity.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 10:30 AM\']Well, there WAS this little show called Family Feud.......But it only ran for 9 years with Richard Dawson the first time, and 1 year the second time he hosted it. ;)
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How do I say this without sounding like a complete nincompoop?
To my ears, Dawson's accent was more Americanized on FF and MG than on, say, HOGAN'S HEROES. Until my mother told me he was British, I had no idea (while I was around during HOGAN'S, I really didn't catch on to the series until the reruns and by then MG7x was already well into its run). I always thought he did a good job with most dialects.
Doug
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Prime time "TWL" wasn't all-celeb--just a lot of celebs during sweeps.
I would've loved to have seen Matt, but "My Kind of Town" was wasting "ExM: HE"'s lead-in every week, so it's not surprising.
However, Berman still has it on his prime time list today--but I just checked the ABC web site--the double pump of "ExM: HE"'s moved to 8 and "AFHV"'s in at 7, so it's official. Drat.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 05:58 AM\']What sucks most about this was, we had a town here in Connecticut picked, bussed, and taped.... and now it will sit on a shelf never to be seen...
What sucks about that most, for me, was that not only did I get to go behind the scenes for a story, I also appeared on the show anchoring a segment for a stunt. That too, will never be seen.... and I was damn good. :)
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I would have liked to have seen Matt's bit, too, but this really doesn't come as much of a surprise. The first week, I said, okay, this is inoffensive. The second week, I didn't see anything I hadn't seen the first week. Plus, and I'm sorry if this is hard-hearted, but I couldn't give a rats ass about some people from a small town from a part of the country I've never seen. They could do a small-town version of TPiR and I wouldn't care, they are all strangers to me. I'm sure it does boffo numbers in Mule's Crotch the week they're on the show, tho.
Also it doesn't help when they use the word "game" heavily in the promotions, and the only "game" that actually gets played on a given show is Name Your Neighbors at the end, which despite Johnny's best efforts to make it interesting and dramatic, really wasn't. I'd guess a good number of viewers who tuned in to "try the show out" were put off when they found out it was a lot more "fun" than "games".
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 04:53 PM\'][quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 10:30 AM\']Well, there WAS this little show called Family Feud.......But it only ran for 9 years with Richard Dawson the first time, and 1 year the second time he hosted it. ;)
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How do I say this without sounding like a complete nincompoop?
To my ears, Dawson's accent was more Americanized on FF and MG than on, say, HOGAN'S HEROES. Until my mother told me he was British, I had no idea (while I was around during HOGAN'S, I really didn't catch on to the series until the reruns and by then MG7x was already well into its run). I always thought he did a good job with most dialects.
Doug
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No Doug you dont he didnt sound English when he hosted it at all, ive not seen many episodes of Family Fued with him or any other host for that matter, but he doesnt sound English to me by then.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 04:36 PM\']
How about Jimmy Carr with Distraction. Weakest Link was successful before they decided to do all celebrity.
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Sorry for this double post.
Jimmy worked because its comedy central not a regular network, Anne was only successful really since NBC pushed her to the moon, the buzz of you are the weakest link good bye wasnt even a fad in the UK till NBC made it one and somehow the buzz got here.
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[quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 10:43 AM\']Jimmy worked because its comedy central not a regular network, Anne was only successful really since NBC pushed her to the moon, the buzz of you are the weakest link good bye wasnt even a fad in the UK till NBC made it one and somehow the buzz got here.
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Point is, you suggested that MKOT failed because the host was British, asked for examples of successful shows featuring hosts with accents, and have been given several examples.
MKOT failed because it, well, sucked, not because of any kind of prejudice on behalf of the audience, as you backhandedly suggest.
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The other town that's not going to make air is Egg Harbor City, NJ, which is not too far from Atlantic City.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 07:46 PM\'][quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 10:43 AM\']Jimmy worked because its comedy central not a regular network, Anne was only successful really since NBC pushed her to the moon, the buzz of you are the weakest link good bye wasnt even a fad in the UK till NBC made it one and somehow the buzz got here.
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Point is, you suggested that MKOT failed because the host was British, asked for examples of successful shows featuring hosts with accents, and have been given several examples.
MKOT failed because it, well, sucked, not because of any kind of prejudice on behalf of the audience, as you backhandedly suggest.
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I never did it backhandedly what I meant was true I wonder how it would of lasted if it had an American host.
I think the format was great, maybe its because Britain has been spoilt with this kinds of shows for years.
For that matter if an American host came over here to do a show and failed id think the same thing if it was hosted by someone from Britian.
My silly way of thinking I guess.
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[quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 01:44 PM\']I never did it backhandedly what I meant was true I wonder how it would of lasted if it had an American host.
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Okay, so you're being forward about the bigoted idea that the show failed because the host was British.
I think the format was great, maybe its because Britain has been spoilt with this kinds of shows for years.
Okay, sell me. What was so good about it?
For that matter if an American host came over here to do a show and failed id think the same thing if it was hosted by someone from Britian.
Um, huh?
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No Doug you dont he didnt sound English when he hosted it at all, ive not seen many episodes of Family Fued with him or any other host for that matter, but he doesnt sound English to me by then.
It's funny...I always thought Dawson sounded British...although less so on "Feud" than he did "Hogan's". But "Hogan's" went on the air in 1965, and "Feud" in '76, so it's quite reasonable that he would have "lost" some of his accent in that time. in fact, I don't think you can detect it as easily in the last season of "Hogan's" as you can the first. But I guess we all have a different ear!
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The quality of the show is more important than the nationality of the host. In the U.S., shows fronted by Canadians, at least one New Zealander and the aformentioned Richard Dawson have had good runs. The closest game show presenter in the U.K. to an American I can think of was the British-born Jerry Springer, and reports were that that show did okay. In the end, the game is most important. Bad shows do not last long even with good hosts.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 04:25 PM\']
No Doug you dont he didnt sound English when he hosted it at all, ive not seen many episodes of Family Fued with him or any other host for that matter, but he doesnt sound English to me by then.
It's funny...I always thought Dawson sounded British...although less so on "Feud" than he did "Hogan's". But "Hogan's" went on the air in 1965, and "Feud" in '76, so it's quite reasonable that he would have "lost" some of his accent in that time. in fact, I don't think you can detect it as easily in the last season of "Hogan's" as you can the first. But I guess we all have a different ear!
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I always thought he was a southerner. He had the drawl down and everything! However, I had someone explain to me that Brits can have the tendency to sound like they have a southern drawl.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 12:27 PM\']
I would have liked to have seen Matt's bit, too, but this really doesn't come as much of a surprise. The first week, I said, okay, this is inoffensive. The second week, I didn't see anything I hadn't seen the first week. Plus, and I'm sorry if this is hard-hearted, but I couldn't give a rats ass about some people from a small town from a part of the country I've never seen.
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Thanks to all for the kind words...the segment was a hoot...how often does one get to anchor the news on national tv, look straight into the camera and deadpan "I whimpered like a little girl". It was definitely one for the resume tape, dignity be damned!
I will say this : I'm a fan of Michael Davies, and I appreciated the modern-day "Truth or Consequences" vibe to the show....as Johnny Vaughan put it when we interviewed him, they weren't looking to be mean-spirited in the stunts...there's already too much of that on tv.... they were looking to celebrate America, and IMHO, it was a good idea.
That said, an hour full of Greenville, Alabama was too much for nat tv - probably even for Alabamans!
Anyways...here's hoping we see em on ABC Family...someday....ms
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UUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
I was afraid this would happen! Great! ABC really puts New Jersey even lower on the ladder now! SHEESH!
Hurry up Deal or No Deal! SAVE MY PRIME TIME SANITY!
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[quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 05:43 PM\']Anne was only successful really since NBC pushed her to the moon, the buzz of you are the weakest link good bye wasnt even a fad in the UK till NBC made it one and somehow the buzz got here.
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Um, are you sure?
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' date=\'Sep 10 2005, 11:41 AM\'][quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 05:43 PM\']Anne was only successful really since NBC pushed her to the moon, the buzz of you are the weakest link good bye wasnt even a fad in the UK till NBC made it one and somehow the buzz got here.
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Um, are you sure?
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The was "Oh shes nasty, Oh shes mean" here but never the real buzz about her on the show, before NBC decided to make thier own and push her spiteful attitude, as their gimmick to make the show, BBC caught on I think and decided to as well.
Well I cant remeber anything
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[quote name=\'remlap\' date=\'Sep 10 2005, 05:49 AM\']Well I cant remeber anything
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Yet it doesn't stop you from speaking.
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Durinig the Indycar race today, they ran a promo, and they still said "My Kind of Town" would be aired tonight...with the addition of an "all new" prefix.
So, I don't know if it on tonight or not...but it looks like it....
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Sep 11 2005, 12:45 PM\']Durinig the Indycar race today, they ran a promo, and they still said "My Kind of Town" would be aired tonight...with the addition of an "all new" prefix.
So, I don't know if it on tonight or not...but it looks like it....
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My DirecTV lineup says Funniest Home Videos, then back-to-back Extreme Makeover:Home Edition, and a rerun of Knots Landing Desperate Housewives at 10.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Sep 11 2005, 06:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Sep 11 2005, 12:45 PM\']Durinig the Indycar race today, they ran a promo, and they still said "My Kind of Town" would be aired tonight...with the addition of an "all new" prefix.
So, I don't know if it on tonight or not...but it looks like it....
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My DirecTV lineup says Funniest Home Videos, then back-to-back Extreme Makeover:Home Edition, and a rerun of Knots Landing Desperate Housewives at 10.
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Which is also what ABC's web site said Friday. Well, it didn't list "Housewives" that way.
In the end, looks like Americans aren't that interested about small-town America. Not a good omen for "Three Wishes"--but of course, they have Amy Grant and her nice set of--hallelujah!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 9 2005, 01:46 PM\']Point is, you suggested that MKOT failed because the host was British, asked for examples of successful shows featuring hosts with accents, and have been given several examples.
MKOT failed because it, well, sucked, not because of any kind of prejudice on behalf of the audience, as you backhandedly suggest.
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Somehow, Johnny didn't seem like the right host for the show, though, and I wonder if his being British had something to do with it. It's not prejudice (especially on my end--hey, I loved Bruce Forsythe's Hot Streak). Johnny seemed like a kooky outsider, treating small towns as if they were curious sociological petry dishes.
It being an unusual kind of show, at least here in the '00s, it may--MAY--have worked better with, say, Regis or Pat Sajak hosting, someone who we recognize when the audience whoops it up for him. And I agree with Chris' point--it sucked, so "working better" may not mean it would have worked well.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 08:23 PM\']Somehow, Johnny didn't seem like the right host for the show, though, and I wonder if his being British had something to do with it. It's not prejudice (especially on my end--hey, I loved Bruce Forsythe's Hot Streak). Johnny seemed like a kooky outsider, treating small towns as if they were curious sociological petry dishes.
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I think you're sort of right. I think Johnny was actually very good at it from the one episode I've viewed (although it's so strange hearing him sing at the beginning), but the very idea of elevating the small and the mundane to revered proportions is really quite a British thing I think, and I don't think it travels well. It's certainly the sort of concept Johnny lapped up during his days fronting The Big Breakfast, and in terms of feel it wasn't far off the original UK Don't Forget Your Toothbrush - but seeing as Will MacDonald worked on that as well, this probably isn't too much of a surprise.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 02:42 PM\']Which is also what ABC's web site said Friday. Well, it didn't list "Housewives" that way.
In the end, looks like Americans aren't that interested about small-town America. Not a good omen for "Three Wishes"--but of course, they have Amy Grant and her nice set of--hallelujah!
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Hey, after four kids, having a nice set of hallelujahs can be a side benefit for someone who'll be 45 in November.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 05:47 PM\']I think you're sort of right. I think Johnny was actually very good at it from the one episode I've viewed (although it's so strange hearing him sing at the beginning),
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If you want to call it singing. :)
Of course, he can come back in 20 years and play Henry Higgins in "My Fair Lady"--unfortunately, Denise Van Outen will be too old for Eliza Doolittle by then. :)
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 07:18 PM\']
If you want to call it singing. :)
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Aww, be fair, he does sort of try!
I've put a very quick review up on Bother's Bar (http://\"http://www.bothersbar.co.uk\"), although I think "a show made by Brits for Brits about Americans on American primetime" sums it up pretty well.