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Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: golden-road on August 26, 2005, 06:53:21 PM
1. I read that the Cash Wheel & The Envelope are endgames of sorts, and I also read that it's a prize on the board. Can someone explain this to me?

2. Was each Winner's Circle $5000, or was it $5K for the first one, $10K for the second?
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: zachhoran on August 26, 2005, 07:33:23 PM
[quote name=\'golden-road\' date=\'Aug 26 2005, 05:53 PM\']

2. Was each Winner's Circle $5000, or was it $5K for the first one, $10K for the second?
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$5K for the first appearance in a given day, $10K for the second appearance by the same player in the same day.
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: Esoteric Eric on August 26, 2005, 09:27:12 PM
[quote name=\'golden-road\' date=\'Aug 26 2005, 03:53 PM\'] I read that the Cash Wheel & The Envelope are endgames of sorts, and I also read that it's a prize on the board. Can someone explain this to me?[/quote]They were prizes on the board which, when won by the puzzle solver, enabled him / her to spin the Cash Wheel or open The Envelope and be entitled to what was described in the enclosed letter.  So, yes, they were endgames, but they were only played occasionally, and then only if the winner of the game had the "prize" on their side of the board.

Esoteric Eric; by the way, one could wind up with only a small amount of money ($10?  0?) from the Wheel, and at least once, The Envelope contained a gag prize...
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: alfonzos on August 27, 2005, 07:32:11 AM
The Cash Wheel had spaces running from $5 to $3000. It was played twice a year during sweeps.
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: Argo on August 28, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
What version of Concentration was this from?
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: JasonA1 on August 28, 2005, 12:29:02 PM
The original, 60s and early 70s, NBC network edition.

-Jason
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: golden-road on August 29, 2005, 02:31:20 PM
In response to Mr. Horan's post about the $50K Pyramid WC, does that mean that the max possible in a single show is $15,000?
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on August 29, 2005, 04:15:38 PM
[quote name=\'golden-road\' date=\'Aug 29 2005, 01:31 PM\']In response to Mr. Horan's post about the $50K Pyramid WC, does that mean that the max possible in a single show is $15,000?
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If typical Bob Stewart Economics were employed, the maximum win would be $10,000.
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: Steve McClellan on August 29, 2005, 06:59:15 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Aug 29 2005, 01:15 PM\']If typical Bob Stewart Economics were employed, the maximum win would be $10,000.[/quote]
And of course, they were.
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: Kevin Prather on August 29, 2005, 07:39:03 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Aug 29 2005, 03:59 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Aug 29 2005, 01:15 PM\']If typical Bob Stewart Economics were employed, the maximum win would be $10,000.[/quote]
And of course, they were.
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So to answer the question at hand, $5,000 apiece.
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on August 29, 2005, 08:07:39 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Aug 29 2005, 07:39 PM\']So to answer the question at hand, $5,000 apiece.
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No...assuming I'm understanding "Bob Stewart Economics" correctly, that would mean that your first Winner's Circle was worth $5,000, playing it a second time was worth $10,000, and winning it the second time took your total winnings to $10,000 regardless of whether or not you'd won it the first time.
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: Kevin Prather on August 30, 2005, 04:06:53 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Aug 29 2005, 05:07 PM\']...and winning it the second time took your total winnings to $10,000 regardless of whether or not you'd won it the first time.
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Ah, good point. I didn't consider that.
Title: Concentration & $50K Pyramid
Post by: uncamark on August 30, 2005, 06:28:03 PM
In addition to the Cash Wheel, there was later the Double Wheel, which was mostly merchandise with a few cash spaces ranging from a salami to a car.  The contestant spun it the first time and then decided if they wanted to take the prize or spin it again and try to get something better.

The Envelope was usually done about once a month--and it was in every game until it was won.  It was also set apart by the fact that every time it appeared on the board a bell rang and the camera zoomed in on the space (and zoomed right back when they cut back to the contestant calling the next number).

When it was won, Hugh or Bob would hand the contestant the envelope and ask them to open it.  The contestant would do it, pull out the card and read out loud what was on it, which always led to some sort of special presentation, often with a "Treasure Hunt"-style misdirection to make the winner think that s/he was getting a gag prize before the good news was revealed (without, of course, the extremes of misdirection that Geoff would do on "Treasure Hunt").  Sometimes, it was just a series of prizes in a Showcase-type presentation.  Outside of the international games, the Envelope spots were often where model Paola Diva appeared--and when a grand piano was an Envelope prize, we got a rare appearance of Milt Kaye on camera, in a tuxedo playing a little Rachmaninoff.