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...was phenomenal. I'll make a short post here about it.
Everything this year was fantastic, and it was so great getting to meet so many of you for the first time, and getting to see many who I have met before . . . but it is always a pleasure! It's not just meeting these game show legends that make the weekend, but meeting my extended family, of sorts. Like I've said before, we are all just one big (sorta dysfunctional) happy game show family, and I'm so glad to be a part of it.
Since this is my 100th post, I'd better make it a little special, eh?
The roundtable was incredible, and getting to meet Guillermo Huesca was just an absolute treat. He is quite possibly the future of Latino game shows, or all game shows, for that matter. Such a personable guy, and one of my new favourite people. I really think with hosts like him, Todd Newton (who was also at the roundtable), and Marco Antonio Regil; the future of game shows are safe, even though part of that future is in another language and south of the border.
The legends were incredible, that entire luncheon really made it special. Getting to see Monty Hall, Pat Carroll, and the brothers Narz were such an honor to me. I know all of you feel the same way to even be in the same room as such legends of this genre we love so much.
That's all, I am out. Peace. :-)
PS: Hi, Mr. Ottinger! =D
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Pictures...I need pictures. :-P
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[quote name=\'jdhernandez\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 01:31 AM\']PS: Hi, Mr. Ottinger! =D[/quote]
Please. You don't have to call me Mr. Ottinger. "Sir" will be just fine.
My best guess is that about twenty Forum members were there, including several who post with some frequency and several who hardly post at all. I also met many non-members (including some industry pros) who tell me they read the Forum with some regularity. Your voices are being heard!
One of the joys for me is to see a bunch of you in person. I'm amazed that Klauss and I had never met before this weekend, for example. I hope we'll hear from others who were there, and you'll get a longer report from me when I'm back home tomorrow. In the meantime, as Jason said, it was a blast!
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Aug 21 2005, 10:32 PM\']Pictures...I need pictures. :-P[/quote]
Particularly one of Mike K.'s first Winners' Circle. ;)
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Have they announced the dates of the next GSC yet for 2006?
Looking into my spinning Bullseye swirling window, I forsee a much better opportunity to attend next year as a possible relocation may put me within a long day's drive to LA.
With that in mind, if relocation does take place, there's a strong possibility that those living along the Continental Divide may have a GSC (the original GSC/Game Show Convention) in their future as well.
*The possible relocation news is brought to you by now-convicted Governor Bob 'A-Hole' Taft, of the Great State of Ohio who is effectively doing his part to drive as many people out of his state as he can before he leaves office -- voluntarily or not. Thank you, Bob!
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 02:26 AM\']I hope we'll hear from others who were there, and you'll get a longer report from me when I'm back home tomorrow. In the meantime, as Jason said, it was a blast!
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Just to say you heard from me.
I'll also attempt to put a spin on this when I return home Tuesday as well (I just hope there'll be something left for me to write about :-) ).
As to Tim K.'s question, I believe they're targeting the same weekend next year (which would be 8/18-20, but back in Burbank this time around--where I'm headed now).
Doug -- broadcasting remotely
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What was the entire composition of the roundtable?
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Or the entire thing, for that matter? Last year's got a lot of hype, but I didn't even hear nothing about this year's.
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I can tell you that there was an 11th-hour cancellation of a presentation on game show music. An attempt was first made to get Bob Israel, then an attempt was made to get Edd Kalehoff. Both individuals are based in New York (Score Productions no longer maintains a California office) so bringing either one to Glendale would have required a budget for travel and accomodations, as well as possible rental of a synthesizer and/or sound system.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 05:20 PM\']What was the entire composition of the roundtable?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 03:54 PM\'] so bringing either one to Glendale would have required a budget for travel and accomodations,
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Was the GSC in Glendale??!! I was born and raised there. Curious why Glendale over Burbank if GSC was indeed there.
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[quote name=\'megoodgal1\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 04:53 PM\']Was the GSC in Glendale??!! I was born and raised there. Curious why Glendale over Burbank if GSC was indeed there.
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One would guess the hall was cheaper, or indeed available.
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A recent Zogby poll showed that game show fans and professionals alike prefer Glendale over Burbank by a five-to-one margin. No?
I hear tell something about remodeling at the Burbank Hilton. Perhaps they're moving some rooms out of the way in case another jet overshoots the airport runway.
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Pictures, dammit. >:o
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 09:35 PM\']A recent Zogby poll showed that game show fans and professionals alike prefer Glendale over Burbank by a five-to-one margin. No?
I hear tell something about remodeling at the Burbank Hilton. Perhaps they're moving some rooms out of the way in case another jet overshoots the airport runway.
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Considering this is the same Zogby who (through exit polling) predicted Kerry would win, I can understand why he thinks Glendale beats Burbank.
And if your sarcasm detector is out of whack, perhaps you need to buy another one from Klauss Industries.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 07:09 PM\'][quote name=\'megoodgal1\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 04:53 PM\']Was the GSC in Glendale??!! I was born and raised there. Curious why Glendale over Burbank if GSC was indeed there.
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One would guess the hall was cheaper, or indeed available.
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My understanding is the Burbank hotel was undergoing some sort of construction or renovation, so Glendale was another available option. I did see in the program that the 2006 GSC is slated to go back to Burbank.
Doug -- broadcasting remotely (but headed home soon)
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[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 04:19 AM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Aug 21 2005, 10:32 PM\']Pictures...I need pictures. :-P[/quote]
Particularly one of Mike K.'s first Winners' Circle. ;)
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(Klauss posting through Mr. Hernandez' account...)
Shut up, Steve. :-P Why not accentuate the positive, like the 2nd Winner's Circle? ;-)
Pictures will come soon, possibly later tonight if Jason is up to the challenge. (We've been out of the house for over 24 hours, primarily for a TPiR taping. Tired, we are. There are some great stories about the taping we attended, but my lips are sealed until the show's air date, October 25.) The worst case scenario is that my pictures won't be online until either late Wednesday night or Thursday.
Mike Klauss via Jason H's account
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 06:20 PM\']What was the entire composition of the roundtable?[/quote]I might be forgetting one, but they were Norm Blumenthal, Ron Greenberg, Bob Boden, Jeff Mirken, Charlie O'Donnell, Laura Chambers, Todd Newton, Guillermo Huesca (host of Trato Hecho, a Spanish-language version of Let's Make A Deal) and some guy who's developing a Dating-Game-like internet project who was supposed to be representing the future. To me, he represented the old Sesame Street concept of "one of these things is not like the other".
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 06:54 PM\']I can tell you that there was an 11th-hour cancellation of a presentation on game show music. An attempt was first made to get Bob Israel, then an attempt was made to get Edd Kalehoff. Both individuals are based in New York (Score Productions no longer maintains a California office) so bringing either one to Glendale would have required a budget for travel and accomodations, as well as possible rental of a synthesizer and/or sound system.[/quote]I'm not privy to all the planning and decision making that goes on, but I know that the GSC did fly out and accomodate certain individuals, so there was a budget for that sort of thing.
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I'm so happy that GSC4 exceeded the expectations of many of the attendees. While I was unable to attend, I'm proud to have helped in a small way to plan the event again this year with a group of incredibly dedicated organizers. These folks have spent a lot of time and energy handling their individual areas of expertise, as well as keeping coordinated on regular conference calls and visits to LA to make GSC so successful.
Thanks to Bob Boden and Jeff Mirken for their second years. Charlie O and Laura Chambers are among the new members of our GSC family. I already have committments from Todd Newton to join us again next year (schedule permitting), and Marc Summers, who will be on-board next summer for his first time.
Indeed, the Burbank Hilton is doing renovations. The GSC advance team met with many hotels in the area, and settled on Glendale based on the deal they could negotiate for facilities and for a reasonable room rate for attendees.
The planned game show music seminar that Chris referred to indeed did not come to fruition this year. It's something we will be working on for future GSCs. The problem was more than simply budgetary, and I have to take some of the responsibility for dropping the ball as work brought me and most of my attention to the other coast. Josh Yawn, the other person working to pull that session together was also distracted by his career. It's just another hunk of fun we hope to make a reality at future GSCs!
See you next year!!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Norm Blumenthal, Ron Greenberg ... Charlie O'Donnell
Certainly an improvement over last year.
GSC did fly out and accomodate certain individuals
Why settle for Edd Kalehoff when you can have Norm Blumenthal?
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We've been out of the house for over 24 hours, primarily for a TPiR taping.
At least you didn't get jerked around by CBS security for an hour.
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Not to quote a John Denver song, but hey, it's good to be back home again (sorry, best lyric I could come up with).
So what could I possibly add that hasn't already been added before? Let's see, pleasure meeting people from the forum -- taken; wonderful roundtables (for CONCENTRATION and the industry panel) -- taken; I do have pictures, but don't have a website (and they need a lot of Photoshopping anywho); oh wait, I've got it. . .
Nice of Elayne Boosler to come and accept her award in person. Boosler told me a wonderful story when I mentioned to her that the first time I had ever seen her was GONG in 1978--if I understood her correctly what it boils down to is that someone she knew was a contestant on GONG during that week of shows, and that particular someone had owed her money. Boosler decided to gong him out of spite/revenge. Later on after the taping, the gongee said to Boosler, "You idiot! If I had won I could've paid you back the money I owe you!"
I had an absolute blast. Pen me in for next year, would you?
Doug -- no longer broadcasting remotely
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What about the countdown to 1500, Doug?
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[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Aug 23 2005, 08:55 PM\']What about the countdown to 1500, Doug?
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Let's get past 1450 first. :)
Doug
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Aug 23 2005, 12:19 PM\']I'm so happy that GSC4 exceeded the expectations of many of the attendees. While I was unable to attend, I'm proud to have helped in a small way to plan the event again this year with a group of incredibly dedicated organizers.
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One thing I did want to do (and forgot to mention in my little piece) was to compliment you on the very nice essay you wrote for the souvenir program (I can't do it justice to try to summarize it here). I didn't know that Jay Stewart was a musician. In short, nice work.
I also forgot to mention in my little piece how much I enjoyed meeting Charlie O'Donnell as well. When Charlie O. found out I was from Chicago, he asked me about "his old friend" Dick Biondi, who's worked in Chicago radio for a long time (in addition to notable stints in L.A., Buffalo and Myrtle Beach, SC--I think someone with serious game show connections was from there). Biondi's station was turned into a "Jack" format back in June, but he was retained to work their HD2 broadcast (which is now being streamed over the web as well).
I had to have used the analogy "like a kid in a candy store" about 20 times over the course of the week-long stay.
Doug -- and the count. . . (nah, still too early ;-) )
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Anyone else catch the Professor's announcement that he's throwing in the towel on tvgameshows.net, which he made during his State of the Games speech? We so put the Prof under the microscope here that I'm surprised no one's mentioned it yet.
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the Professor's announcement that he's throwing in the towel on tvgameshows.net
That'll send the Dow plummeting at least 100 points.
BTW Dave, according to the official Game Show Forum stylebook it's Perfesser.
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 02:22 PM\']Anyone else catch the Professor's announcement that he's throwing in the towel on tvgameshows.net, which he made during his State of the Games speech? We so put the Prof under the microscope here that I'm surprised no one's mentioned it yet.
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While we might not always agree with "Perfesser" Steve and the way he ran his site, etc. You have to give him kudos for the effort over nearly 10 years..Considering how busy he is already and will be in November..he can probably use the break from daily reporting..
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 01:02 PM\']While we might not always agree with "Perfesser" Steve and the way he ran his site, etc. You have to give him kudos for the effort over nearly 10 years..
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No, I really don't. Bad reporting and attention whoring take minimal effort.
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To me, the "highlight"of his page's life was when he jumped on the April Fool's Day story of Dick Clark being tapped to host syndie WWTBAM...
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 03:24 PM\'][quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 01:02 PM\']While we might not always agree with "Perfesser" Steve and the way he ran his site, etc. You have to give him kudos for the effort over nearly 10 years..
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Maybe this would be the time for a group of Invisioners to do a website like the Perf's was/is, but with less questionable journalistic techniques. Such a website was tried in April 2002, but that was short lived(lasted barely a month).
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 01:22 PM\']Anyone else catch the Professor's announcement that he's throwing in the towel on tvgameshows.net, which he made during his State of the Games speech?
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I doubt people did. They probably had more important things to do--like napping.
You have to give him kudos for the effort over nearly 10 years
If I was a professor at the college, and graded on "effort", he'd get a D. Those links have been broken for how long now?
Maybe this would be the time for a group of Invisioners to do a website like the Perf's was/is
There are two. One is Buzzer!, which is run by Alex Davis, and the other is Game Show News Net, run I believe, by Gordon Pepper and a contingent of others.
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the Professor's announcement that he's throwing in the towel on tvgameshows.net
That'll send the Dow plummeting at least 100 points.
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Damn! I was hoping the PERfesser's departure would've sent the gas pumps plummeting 100 Pennies!
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 03:30 PM\']To me, the "highlight"of his page's life was when he jumped on the April Fool's Day story of Dick Clark being tapped to host syndie WWTBAM...
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I kinda liked when The Perfesser took the bait on the April Fool's story of the big 30-city audience auditions for TPiRs 30th anniversary celebration a few years back. That story has a personal place in my devious mind. :-P
So what was his reason(s) for sticking a fork in tvg.net?
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 09:02 PM\']So what was his reason(s) for sticking a fork in tvg.net?
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He does mention on his site (and did mention in his speech) that he was "exhausted."
I now leave the jokes to people far more capable than I to deliver (just because I stood center stage at Studio 1 in Burbank while taking the NBC tour doesn't qualify me to play Johnny, Jay or Dave for a day). :)
Doug
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Aug 22 2005, 01:32 AM\']Pictures...I need pictures. :-P[/quote]
Since you asked...
http://www.classicgameshows.com/gsc4/gsc4.html (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/gsc4/gsc4.html\")
I'll post more later this week. The last 3 pictures are myself with Guillermo Huesca (host of Trato Hecho), Jack Narz, and Tom Kennedy.
And here's the Pyramid image Steve McClellan wants everybody to see (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/gsc4/Img_0407.jpg\"). *grumble grumble*
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 09:01 PM\']And here's the Pyramid image Steve McClellan wants everybody to see. *grumble grumble*[/quote]
For any interested parties, the $50 category was reasonably gettable, though I don't recall exactly what it was. The $150 category was "Sounds Exactly Like 'Four'" ;)
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[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Aug 25 2005, 01:34 AM\'][quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 09:01 PM\']And here's the Pyramid image Steve McClellan wants everybody to see. *grumble grumble*[/quote]
For any interested parties, the $50 category was reasonably gettable, though I don't recall exactly what it was. The $150 category was "Sounds Exactly Like 'Four'" ;)
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"Things on a checkerboard." The chance is higher than usual that the giver would immediately say "checkers", but they didn't.
Now I have to come up with a new fake board.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Aug 25 2005, 01:34 AM\'][quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Aug 24 2005, 09:01 PM\']And here's the Pyramid image Steve McClellan wants everybody to see. *grumble grumble*[/quote]
For any interested parties, the $50 category was reasonably gettable, though I don't recall exactly what it was. The $150 category was "Sounds Exactly Like 'Four'" ;)
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"7 Digit Prime Numbers" was pretty funny, but not completely unsolveable under the right circumstances.
1,000,003 is a prime.
1,000,033 is a prime.
I got a kick out of the whole thing anyway. :)
Doug
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Aug 25 2005, 09:42 AM\']"Things on a checkerboard." The chance is higher than usual that the giver would immediately say "checkers", but they didn't.
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A little higher, but I would think most decent players would catch themseleves before they did it and hold their tongue, especially when you could say "The jumping pieces. The red squares. The black squares. The kings."
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Spending hours upon hours looking through various search engines insisting on finding last names of contestants will do that to you.
For those who are familiar with the Cleveland Plain Dealer, perhaps sports 'gossip columnist' Roger Brown could be the successor to the Perfesser's web site!
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 23 2005, 02:05 AM\']I might be forgetting one, but they were Norm Blumenthal, Ron Greenberg, Bob Boden, Jeff Mirken, Charlie O'Donnell, Laura Chambers, Todd Newton, Guillermo Huesca (host of Trato Hecho, a Spanish-language version of Let's Make A Deal) and some guy who's developing a Dating-Game-like internet project who was supposed to be representing the future. To me, he represented the old Sesame Street concept of "one of these things is not like the other".
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Ah, yes. Bo something or other. All the while, I was thinking there was a reason why there wasn't room enough for him at the table. Special thanks, by the way, to Jason H. for providing transportation to Television City and to the airport.
Joe was an awesome host of $otC, where I got smoked by Jeff Suchard and Ryan Vickers. Julie and Mattie Suchard went on to humiliate me during Press Your Luck. Hopefully, I didn't mispronounce anyone's name while announcing during The Price Is Right. Thanks also to Doug for accepting lunch instead of dinner. And Mike K., great to meet you, too.
There's a picture floating around of me appearing to genuflect before the omnipresence of Charlie O'Donnell.
Of all the people in the room, am I the only one who went over to talk to John Harlan?