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Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Seth Thrasher on June 16, 2003, 03:13:01 PM
Personally, I say the show gets 1 year, tops.   Even if the host is great, the change will be too sudden for for most viewers, they'll tune away, and that'll be that.  Then, it may come back in a few years in SYN.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: FosterGray82 on June 16, 2003, 03:25:19 PM
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Jun 16 2003, 02:13 PM\']Personally, I say the show gets 1 year, tops.   Even if the host is great, the change will be too sudden for for most viewers, they'll tune away, and that'll be that.  Then, it may come back in a few years in SYN.[/quote]
Even on the new board, we're not safe from this topic! :-)

All jokes aside, in 104 posts, I never threw in my two shiny Lincolns. Here's a nickel, keep the change. :-P

No matter what is done, no one's gonna be satisfied:

If you get a new host, you piss off the longtime viewers who've watched since September 4, 1972, and lose some audience members. However, you might be able to keep some viewers, and it'll be like when Leno replaced Carson, Carson replaced whoever, and so on down the line.

However, what I think would be a decent start would be what's done with Peanuts now. Simply, air older eps. of the show, just like older Peanuts strips run in the paper. Of course, this would upset anyone who would feel that the show must go on.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: clemon79 on June 16, 2003, 03:35:33 PM
We are easily past the point now where Alex Trebek has hosted Jeopardy longer than Art Fleming has.

Get my point?
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Casey Buck on June 16, 2003, 04:14:40 PM
[quote name=\'FosterGray82\' date=\'Jun 16 2003, 12:25 PM\']However, what I think would be a decent start would be what's done with Peanuts now. Simply, air older eps. of the show, just like older Peanuts strips run in the paper. Of course, this would upset anyone who would feel that the show must go on.[/quote]

I think that this is a great idea for 3 reasons:

1. There would be no risk of TPiR failing because of a new host

2. CBS wouldn't have to cancel TPiR outright if they choose this option (and believe me, they would try to milk TPiR for all it's worth if Barker leaves.)

3. We will never have to complain about GSN not showing TPiR anymore!
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: FosterGray82 on June 16, 2003, 04:27:55 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 16 2003, 02:35 PM\'] We are easily past the point now where Alex Trebek has hosted Jeopardy longer than Art Fleming has.

Get my point? [/quote]
 I do get your point, and as much of an institution we can say Fleming was, he had 12 combined years on Jeopardy compared to Barker's 31.  And if I'm not mistaken, wasn't there a lot of objection when Trebek took over as host of J! as well?

I know that before Barker, there was Cullen, but 9 times out of 10, you ask someone what they think of when you say \"host of The Price is Right,\" they will probably say Bob Barker, and ask \"Bill who?\"  He has basically become synonomous with Price, as has been proven with the Kennedy and Davidson versions, both lasting one season, and the latter being cancelled mid-season.  I can't say Dennis James, as the syndie run premiered the same time as Bob's (one week apart IIRC).

Unless, you were replying to Seth, then I'll just step into the drop zone. :-)
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: gsn1hiroland on June 16, 2003, 04:55:43 PM
TPiR will never get old....it is part of America this show. It is the 60 Minutes of Daytime TV! 60 Minutes has had many people from Andy Rooney to Meredith Viera! There have been 4 hosts of TPiR in the last 31 years. I do not see how it will be cancelled. I think that if they pick out the right host, TPiR would be strong! I would have it between Bob Eubanks for temporary until they have the best host picked out.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: DjohnsonCB on June 16, 2003, 05:21:06 PM
My feeling is that, as long as CBS is going to do nighttime $1,000,000 versions of the show on an occasional basis, they should retain Bob for these, but if he's not up to doing the daily version as well, try a new host there only.  It would give viewers a chance to try and warm up to another host while retaining Bob--with a lightened work load--at the same time.

Unfortunately, what haunts this proposition is the inescapable fact that Let's Make A Deal, for all the times they tried to revive it after the original show died, never worked without Monty Hall being there on camera.
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Post by: Yahtzee72 on June 16, 2003, 05:25:57 PM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Jun 16 2003, 04:21 PM\'] Unfortunately, what haunts this proposition is the inescapable fact that Let's Make A Deal, for all the times they tried to revive it after the original show died, never worked without Monty Hall being there on camera. [/quote]
Well, you gotta remember that Monty hosted the horribly cheap 1980 version, but factors out of his hands killed it.

I thought Geoff did a good job when he filled in on LMAD84. He could have been a good permanent host. (Wouldn't it be great if he somehow found this board and posted here like the old days of ATGS?)

Bob Hilton was okay. I never really saw too much of his version.

Mark DeCarlo, on the other hand, one show was too much.

Billy Bush's version might have worked if NBC hadn't stuck it against AI. Any word on the two \"lost\" eps, or are they going to stay that way?


George
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: GS Warehouse on June 16, 2003, 10:03:02 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 16 2003, 02:35 PM\'] We are easily past the point now where Alex Trebek has hosted Jeopardy longer than Art Fleming has.

Get my point? [/quote]
Mr. Lemon's right.  The right guy is out there; CBS just needs to find him.  Doug Davidson?  Likely, because he's already on CBS's payroll and TNPiR94's failure wasn't his fault.  Todd Newton?  If it's him, it's because of his youth.  At 33, he's the youngest current national game show host (unless you count talent shows, then it's Joey from N*Sync fame and Fame fame).

Of course, Bob's going to outlive all of us anyway just to make this whole thread moot. :-)
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: EmiOfBrie on June 17, 2003, 02:18:04 AM
I still think Peter Tomarken would be the ideal choice to replace Bob....
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Grant78898 on June 17, 2003, 10:30:21 AM
[quote name=\'FosterGray82\' date=\'Jun 16 2003, 02:25 PM\'] However, what I think would be a decent start would be what's done with Peanuts now. Simply, air older eps. of the show, just like older Peanuts strips run in the paper. Of course, this would upset anyone who would feel that the show must go on. [/quote]
 Well, I read that one of the reasons 'Price' can't be shown on GSN is because of 'former talent', so I'd think that would be the same for any network. I don't think we'll see classic eps for a very long time...

I also think Peter Tomarken would be a great replacement.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 17, 2003, 11:17:40 AM
This is one topic that never gets old.  Bob should be able to be there as long as he wants and perhaps the show should end when he wants it to. I don't think he is interested in grooming a protege. Then after the six months CBS tries the talk show with Debbie Mattopopodopolis or whomever, they should bring back TPIR with David Hasselhoff as host.  I had suggested Ryan Seacrest before, but he seems to have a full plate for the the next few years.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: clemon79 on June 17, 2003, 11:21:10 AM
[quote name=\'Grant78898\' date=\'Jun 17 2003, 07:30 AM\'] Well, I read that one of the reasons 'Price' can't be shown on GSN is because of 'former talent', so I'd think that would be the same for any network.
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 I don't buy it. If that were the case you NEVER would have seen Price on GSN, since the whole thing with Parkinson went down before GSN even existed.

The reason you don't see Price on GSN is simple, really, really simple: money. Fremantle is asking more then GSN is willing/able to pay. And Fremantle can do that 'cuz they know that GSN getting Price back would instantly make it the lynchpin of their schedule, especially with the renewed mainstream popularity of the show in prime time.

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I also think Peter Tomarken would be a great replacement.

What a shock. (Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing.)
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Grant78898 on June 17, 2003, 11:25:48 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 17 2003, 10:21 AM\'] The reason you don't see Price on GSN is simple, really, really simple: money. Fremantle is asking more then GSN is willing/able to pay. And Fremantle can do that 'cuz they know that GSN getting Price back would instantly make it the lynchpin of their schedule, especially with the renewed mainstream popularity of the show in prime time.

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 \"TheRicker\" (an admin on the GSN boards), was the one that said it was because of 'former talent', he also said it was the $$ issue, too.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: cmjb13 on June 17, 2003, 01:12:38 PM
Be glad Price isn't on GSN.

They would run the same episodes over and over again.

Not to mention the speed-ups.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Grant78898 on June 17, 2003, 01:37:29 PM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jun 17 2003, 12:12 PM\'] Be glad Price isn't on GSN.

They would run the same episodes over and over again.

Not to mention the speed-ups. [/quote]
 And split screens..... but still, it would be nice to see classic TPiR eps again, even if they were sped up...
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: alfonzos on July 11, 2003, 09:54:08 PM
Why not Rod Roddy? He is familiar and glib (I met him during a session of Hit Man). There is presidence: Bob Clayton took over (eventually) from Hugh Downs when the latter left Concentration.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: zachhoran on July 11, 2003, 09:59:46 PM
Add to the announcer-turned-host for a show list: Gene Wood, who made his GT debut announcing the late 60s/early 70s syndie Jack Narz version of Beat the Clock and later took over as host.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Skynet74 on July 12, 2003, 02:06:58 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 11 2003, 08:59 PM\'] Add to the announcer-turned-host for a show list: Gene Wood, who made his GT debut announcing the late 60s/early 70s syndie Jack Narz version of Beat the Clock and later took over as host. [/quote]
 
  With all due respect, Gene is a great guy and all. But he was a terrible host on Beat The Clock.  Just my opinion.


John
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: passwordplus on June 01, 2005, 07:06:45 PM
Hey, I was actually trying to search for another post, and bumped into this old thread, but good one.

Since no one has replied to this thread since Rich joined the show, I figured I bring it up. I get the feeling that Rich MIGHT be a possible replacement for Bob if the show goes on? I mean, he puts the man up on a pedestal letting him be on camera at the end of almost every show. And you can tell by Bob and Rich's interaction, that Bob approves of Rich, and actually treats him a helluva lot better than he did Rod Roddy(another topic for another day). Whatcha all think, Rich for host once Bob hangs it up?
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: jmangin on June 01, 2005, 08:23:40 PM
Oh dear God no...we already have a screamfest behind the camera for the whole damn show.  I can only imagine what he'd be like in front of the camera directy dealing with conestants...oh wait, yes I do--he'd be exactly like Todd Newton.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: bandit_bobby on June 01, 2005, 08:30:47 PM
After Bob is done, maybe the foreign cars will be let back on the show (BMW, Porsche, Jaguar, etc.). Or maybe Roger will stick to his guns. Who knows.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: bclark71 on June 01, 2005, 08:31:14 PM
[quote name=\'alfonzos\' date=\'Jul 11 2003, 08:54 PM\']Why not Rod Roddy?
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His death in 2003 prevents him from taking over hosing duties at Price is Right.

Otherwise I'd have nominated Bert Convy.
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Post by: NickintheATL on June 01, 2005, 08:52:30 PM
[quote name=\'bclark71\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 08:31 PM\'][quote name=\'alfonzos\' date=\'Jul 11 2003, 08:54 PM\']Why not Rod Roddy?
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His death in 2003 prevents him from taking over hosing duties at Price is Right.

Otherwise I'd have nominated Bert Convy.
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And if you had read the date of the post, it says JULY 11 2003.  That was before he died....  just please check the date a little bit more closely when we bump old threads... :-\
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: zachhoran on June 01, 2005, 08:56:27 PM
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 07:52 PM\'][quote name=\'bclark71\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 08:31 PM\'][quote name=\'alfonzos\' date=\'Jul 11 2003, 08:54 PM\']Why not Rod Roddy?
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His death in 2003 prevents him from taking over hosing duties at Price is Right.

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And if you had read the date of the post, it says JULY 11 2003.  That was before he died....  just please check the date a little bit more closely when we bump old threads... :-\
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But Barker's retirement that hasn't happened yet was the eternal meta-topic in ATGS and still is.......
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: saussage on June 01, 2005, 09:11:49 PM
[quote name=\'bclark71\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 07:31 PM\'][quote name=\'alfonzos\' date=\'Jul 11 2003, 08:54 PM\']Why not Rod Roddy?
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His death in 2003 prevents him from taking over hosing duties at Price is Right.

Otherwise I'd have nominated Bert Convy.
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I would have to agree with you but Tom Kennedy would be a tad better (I wish he was younger though) and with previous TPIR experience, he'd be my first pick. He was darn good on TPIR... I wish it lasted longer though... oh well.

I might be out on left field but it sounds though like someone's maybe hinting about digitizing the dead into a VR game show host. I think the technology is still a bit far off for that to be realistic. I'm talking about full 3D virtual reality and not just some flat cg thing that us viewers could see at home and the studio audience would have to watch a big screen for Bob. Have to shake hands with a mannequin when going up on stage... oy! :)

I'm having enough nightmares with a cartoon Vanna on Wheel 2k :)
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: clemon79 on June 01, 2005, 09:24:40 PM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 06:11 PM\']I might be out on left field but it sounds though like someone's maybe hinting about digitizing the dead into a VR game show host. I think the technology is still a bit far off for that to be realistic. I'm talking about full 3D virtual reality and not just some flat cg thing that us viewers could see at home and the studio audience would have to watch a big screen for Bob. Have to shake hands with a mannequin when going up on stage... oy! :)
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wow.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: bclark71 on June 01, 2005, 09:53:26 PM
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 07:52 PM\'][quote name=\'bclark71\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 08:31 PM\'][quote name=\'alfonzos\' date=\'Jul 11 2003, 08:54 PM\']Why not Rod Roddy?
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His death in 2003 prevents him from taking over hosing duties at Price is Right.

Otherwise I'd have nominated Bert Convy.
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GAHHH!!!  I can't believe I didn't see that!  

Of all the days to try and be a smart-ass...
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: NickintheATL on June 01, 2005, 09:55:20 PM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 09:11 PM\']I might be out on left field but it sounds though like someone's maybe hinting about digitizing the dead into a VR game show host. I think the technology is still a bit far off for that to be realistic. I'm talking about full 3D virtual reality and not just some flat cg thing that us viewers could see at home and the studio audience would have to watch a big screen for Bob. Have to shake hands with a mannequin when going up on stage... oy! :)
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I guess this means that we've entered the "Twilight Zone", eh?
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: clemon79 on June 01, 2005, 10:06:22 PM
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 06:55 PM\']I guess this means that we've entered the "Twilight Zone", eh?
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I was thinking of a four-letter word starting with "TW-", yes. :)
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Kevin Prather on June 01, 2005, 10:28:39 PM
Was the next letter "i" or "a", Chris? ;-)
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on June 01, 2005, 10:45:42 PM
[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 08:30 PM\']After Bob is done, maybe the foreign cars will be let back on the show.
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No, they will not.
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Post by: Don Howard on June 02, 2005, 12:38:38 AM
[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 07:30 PM\']After Bob is done, maybe the foreign cars will be let back on the show
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And fur coats as well. Plus! Janice, Dian, Kathleen and Holly will be permitted back.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on June 02, 2005, 02:41:56 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 09:45 PM\']No, they will not.
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Too bad Fords and Pontiacs are basically foreign cars now and can only be considered American due to their roots.  The powers that be instead opt to outsource the jobs to Mexico where they can hire cheap labor while improving their bottom line.

Meanwhile, Toyota has plants in America. Piss on General Motors, Ford Motor Company, and Price for not sticking with the times.
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Post by: tvwxman on June 02, 2005, 04:38:23 AM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 08:11 PM\']
I might be out on left field but it sounds though like someone's maybe hinting about digitizing the dead into a VR game show host. I think the technology is still a bit far off for that to be realistic. I'm talking about full 3D virtual reality and not just some flat cg thing that us viewers could see at home and the studio audience would have to watch a big screen for Bob. Have to shake hands with a mannequin when going up on stage... oy! :)
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You really need to put down the saussage and get out more.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: johnnya2k3 on June 02, 2005, 05:38:27 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 08:38 PM\'][quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 07:30 PM\']After Bob is done, maybe the foreign cars will be let back on the show
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I think fur coats are kinda passe thanks to PETA. And Janice, Dian, Kathleen, and Holly are all too old to be returning to TPIR; get any of the WWE Divas to do it.

But I do agree about foreign cars being brought back; after all, Wheel of Fortune still offers them to this day.

Jonathan Allen
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: BrandonFG on June 02, 2005, 07:15:24 AM
[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' date=\'Jun 2 2005, 04:38 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 08:38 PM\'][quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' date=\'Jun 1 2005, 07:30 PM\']After Bob is done, maybe the foreign cars will be let back on the show
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I think fur coats are kinda passe thanks to PETA. And Janice, Dian, Kathleen, and Holly are all too old to be returning to TPIR; get any of the WWE Divas to do it.
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WHOOOOOOOOOOSSSHHH!!!

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Apples and oranges. From what I read, Bob is an animal activist, and doesn't want foreign cars b/c of personal beliefs regarding animals.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on June 02, 2005, 08:35:58 AM
And according to Steve Gavazzi's much balleyhooed TPIR FAQ at Golden road...

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After Desert Storm, Bob and the staff decided to stop using foreign cars as a show of patriotism.  This will not change in the future, even if Bob retires.

Question answered...
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: dzinkin on June 02, 2005, 09:12:08 AM
[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Jun 2 2005, 08:35 AM\']And according to Steve Gavazzi's much balleyhooed TPIR FAQ at Golden road...

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After Desert Storm, Bob and the staff decided to stop using foreign cars as a show of patriotism.  This will not change in the future, even if Bob retires.

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For the next five minutes, at least, until someone asks it again.
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 02, 2005, 09:37:56 AM
Well, that says it all.  To paraphrase Bob on One Away, "Moderators, close this thread!"
Title: Price After Bob?
Post by: dzinkin on June 02, 2005, 09:53:58 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 2 2005, 09:37 AM\']Well, that says it all.  To paraphrase Bob on One Away, "Moderators, close this thread!"
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Not until I put in another plug for Steve's awesome TPIR FAQ (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/modules.php?name=FAQ\").

There, NOW I'll close the thread. :-D