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Title: "You Don't Say!" - twice a local game show?
Post by: TwoInchQuad on May 21, 2005, 03:21:12 PM
I didn't realize this, but in looking at Steve Beverly's interview with Betty White, she mentions working around LA during the 1970's, and then also mentions that she did the local version of YDS, before it went national.

I thought at first she was referring to the 60's Barry version, but as it turns out, there must have been an L.A. version in the 70's, as well, because I've now seen an exceedingly short clip of one of the show endings.  I don't recognize the host, but the set is almost identical to the 70s ABC version, again hosted by Tom Kennedy.  

There is a credit in the roll for "Mr. Race's Wardrobe By...", so I'm guessing that's the host's last name. but does anyone here have some definitive info on this short-lived local production of the show?

Thanks for any help!

-Kevin
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Post by: Chief-O on May 21, 2005, 04:38:55 PM
[quote name=\'TwoInchQuad\' date=\'May 21 2005, 02:21 PM\']There is a credit in the roll for "Mr. Race's Wardrobe By...", so I'm guessing that's the host's last name. but does anyone here have some definitive info on this short-lived local production of the show?
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Clark ["Parent Game"] Race?
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Post by: Jimmy Owen on May 21, 2005, 04:41:47 PM
Yes Clark Race hosted it.  It was on KTLA Channel 5 at 10:30 on Sunday nights from 4/22/75 until 6/29/75. Tom Kennedy was a panelist.
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Post by: chris319 on May 23, 2005, 04:33:38 AM
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It was on KTLA Channel 5 at 10:30 on Sunday nights from 4/22/75 until 6/29/75.
Ew, who'd put a game show on at 10:30 pm on Sunday nights?
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Post by: Robair on May 23, 2005, 07:02:09 AM
Hey hey now! That's where WPVI in Philly used to show the nighttime "Celebrity Sweepstakes"! A great time to watch a game show!

After all, there is a game show on GSN at 10:30 on Sunday, right? (Unless it's poker or something...)
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Post by: zachhoran on May 23, 2005, 09:00:17 AM
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It was on KTLA Channel 5 at 10:30 on Sunday nights from 4/22/75 until 6/29/75.
Ew, who'd put a game show on at 10:30 pm on Sunday nights?
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Didn't CBS put one on Sunday nights for 17 years?
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Post by: DrBear on May 23, 2005, 09:53:27 AM
And once again, a reply is burned to a crisp when the Sarcasm Detector (tm) fails to go off when needed.
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Post by: aaron sica on May 23, 2005, 10:00:36 AM
[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'May 23 2005, 09:53 AM\']And once again, a reply is burned to a crisp when the Sarcasm Detector (tm) fails to go off when needed.
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Either that, or it's a case of PJTP.
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Post by: chris319 on May 23, 2005, 11:18:09 AM
In 1975 it could have been a lead-in to Sammy & Company.
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Post by: Jimmy Owen on May 23, 2005, 11:22:34 AM
"Best of Groucho" aired right after YDS on Channel 5. "Sammy" was on KNBC late Sunday night.

In the spring and early summer of 75 in LA, it would have been possible to watch YDS and Groucho and then switch to 4 for Sammy.
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Post by: chris319 on May 23, 2005, 11:29:20 AM
Here is Eugene Levy's take on Sammy & Company:

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It was a talk show where all they did was kiss each other's butts. Sammy would come out and do his number. The crowd would applaud. He would cry and thank the audience for being so wonderful. Then a guest would come out and Sammy would fawn all over him. The guest would reply in kind by fawning all over Sammy. Sammy would volley back a barrage of flattery. The guest would return the favor:

"I have to say this. I can't keep it to myself anymore. You are one of the greatest talents in the world."(Applause) "Oh, no, no. Get out of here, Sammy. YOU are the greatest entertainer in the world and you know it!" (Wild Applause) "Man, oh, man... you're great. But really, YOU'RE the best. Not me. I worship the ground you walk on. (Tears) I really do, man.I love you!" (A few claps, tears from the audience) "I LOVE YOU, SAMMY! WE ALL LOVE YOU! Isn't that right, everybody?" (Sammy and guest hug) (Wild, wild applause, whistling, tears) "Man, would you like to do another number? ""Only if you sing it with me, Sammy!" (Applause) (Sammy and guest take the stage and butcher a then-current Top 40 hit) Then another guest would come out and it would start all over.

As I recall, after the opening number Sammy would sit down at the panel and the butt-kissing began with announcer William B. Williams.
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Post by: BrandonFG on May 23, 2005, 02:14:18 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'May 23 2005, 09:00 AM\'][quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'May 23 2005, 09:53 AM\']And once again, a reply is burned to a crisp when the Sarcasm Detector (tm) fails to go off when needed.
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Either that, or it's a case of PJTP.
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(reads post in question...Clementson...Mackey, R., Horan...)
Yes, that is definitely PJTP. Same thing happened on one of the P+ posts. (rolls eyes)
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Post by: uncamark on May 23, 2005, 02:35:02 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'May 23 2005, 10:29 AM\']Here is Eugene Levy's take on Sammy & Company:

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It was a talk show where all they did was kiss each other's butts. Sammy would come out and do his number. The crowd would applaud. He would cry and thank the audience for being so wonderful. Then a guest would come out and Sammy would fawn all over him. The guest would reply in kind by fawning all over Sammy. Sammy would volley back a barrage of flattery. The guest would return the favor:

"I have to say this. I can't keep it to myself anymore. You are one of the greatest talents in the world."(Applause) "Oh, no, no. Get out of here, Sammy. YOU are the greatest entertainer in the world and you know it!" (Wild Applause) "Man, oh, man... you're great. But really, YOU'RE the best. Not me. I worship the ground you walk on. (Tears) I really do, man.I love you!" (A few claps, tears from the audience) "I LOVE YOU, SAMMY! WE ALL LOVE YOU! Isn't that right, everybody?" (Sammy and guest hug) (Wild, wild applause, whistling, tears) "Man, would you like to do another number? ""Only if you sing it with me, Sammy!" (Applause) (Sammy and guest take the stage and butcher a then-current Top 40 hit) Then another guest would come out and it would start all over.

As I recall, after the opening number Sammy would sit down at the panel and the butt-kissing began with announcer William B. Williams.
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And Levy and his fellow "SCTV"ers parodied it all with "The Sammy Maudlin Show."  Who can forget Levy as Funnyman Bobby Bittman ("HOW ARRREEEE YAAAA?") and Catherine O'Hara as Lola Heatherton ("I WANNA BEAR ALLL YOUR CHILDREN!  HA HA HA!").  Joe Flaherty was Sammy and John Candy was William B.

ObGameShow:  "Night School Hi-Q" with host Alex Trebel, among other sketches.
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Post by: ChuckNet on May 23, 2005, 10:16:55 PM
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Yes Clark Race hosted it. It was on KTLA Channel 5 at 10:30 on Sunday nights from 4/22/75 until 6/29/75. Tom Kennedy was a panelist.

Seems like quite a few shows, in those days, were given on-air tryouts in LA before going national...before beginning life on CBS, Ch. 5 test-ran TJW in 71 (these eps supposedly featured 3 players and a payoff system of $25/$50/$75), and KTTV (Ch. 11) aired Liar's Club as a weekly show during the 75-76 season (which was good, since they needed time to work the kinks out of the scoring system).

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Post by: JasonA1 on May 23, 2005, 10:42:19 PM
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(these eps supposedly featured 3 players and a payoff system of $25/$50/$75)

A clip of which I'm sure you have somewhere in that monstrous library...was used in an early CBS promo for Joker.

-Jason
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Post by: tvwxman on May 24, 2005, 09:08:33 AM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'May 23 2005, 09:16 PM\']and KTTV (Ch. 11) aired Liar's Club as a weekly show during the 75-76 season (which was good, since they needed time to work the kinks out of the scoring system).
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How many scoring formats were there? I remember from the USA days , 3 or 4 easy, and those were all within one season, right?
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Post by: zachhoran on May 24, 2005, 09:37:16 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'May 24 2005, 08:08 AM\'][quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'May 23 2005, 09:16 PM\']and KTTV (Ch. 11) aired Liar's Club as a weekly show during the 75-76 season (which was good, since they needed time to work the kinks out of the scoring system).
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How many scoring formats were there? I remember from the USA days , 3 or 4 easy, and those were all within one season, right?
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There was the first round 1-1, second round 2-1, third round 5-1, and fourth round 10-1 format, bet up to the number of dollars/points you have(with a 100 max bet each round), which was also used in the Eric Boardman version(where they played for points as opposed to dollars). Part of that format during the Armstrong years offered a contestant double their wager if they were the only one to pick the correct celebrity in a given round. One format during the Armstrong years had one contestant playing for 2-1, one contestant playing for 5-1, one contestant playing for 10-1, and one for 20-1 odds in a given round. The odds would change for each player  for the next round. A player in that format could bet whatever they wanted, even if they had more than 100 points. I suspect that latter format was the shortest-lived because it would hurt Ralph Andrews' pockets(and that's something that seemed to happen on several occasions)
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Post by: ChuckNet on May 26, 2005, 10:10:20 PM
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There was the first round 1-1, second round 2-1, third round 5-1, and fourth round 10-1 format, bet up to the number of dollars/points you have(with a 100 max bet each round), which was also used in the Eric Boardman version(where they played for points as opposed to dollars).

Actually, on the late 80s revival, you were only allowed to bet half of your initial 100 pts...another feature on said version was a bonus prize given to any player who had a correct bet in all 4 rounds, in addition to the standard prize given for winning the game.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Post by: ChuckNet on May 27, 2005, 10:42:15 PM
Another first-season format that was quite awkward: each celeb was only available to be bet on once a round, w/odds for the first player 2-1, next player's were 5-1, 3rd player's 10-1, and since there was only one celeb left, the last player's odds were 20-1 (and unlike the later eps, bets of $1 increments were the rule...wasn't uncommon to see bets for "odd" amounts often).

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")