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Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: aaron sica on April 09, 2005, 02:13:21 PM
Boy, posting the old TV Guide game show listings has got me thinking now of a bunch of questions...This being one of them.

I think the daytime Feud's popularity began to wane in June, 1980, when "$20,000 Pyramid" was cancelled and Feud got that "noon" slot. When did your ABC station stop airing Feud, or did they carry it to the very end? Here's some things I've found about it..

16-WNEP in Scranton stopped airing Feud once it moved to noon - it *did*, however, air the "Celebrity Family Feud" that aired at 11am in the summer of '84. Interestingly enough, when Feud moved back to 11:30am in the fall of '84, 16 chose to carry "Ryan's Hope" at 11:30 instead.

6-WPVI in Philadelphia continued to air Feud at 11:30am from June 1980-June 1983. Once "Loving" premiered, Family Feud actually moved to WTAF-29 and aired at noon (whether it was the live feed, I do not know). 6 also aired Ryan's Hope at 11:30 instead of Feud.

13-WJZ in Baltimore also continued to air Feud at 11:30am for the summer of '80; once the "Love Boat" daytime reruns moved from 10am to 11am, Feud was gone from there forever.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: DjohnsonCB on April 09, 2005, 04:28:47 PM
With 5-WOI in Ames, Iowa, it was just the opposite.  They didn't carry it at first, but once they did, they stayed with it to the end of the ABC run, IIRC.  Back in that 1975-76 season, when the station was still primarily in Ames and owned by Iowa State University (and one would suspect that the way they ended up being a primary ABC station in 1955 when Omaha had to wait two years after that to get their own, led to a general sour grapes attitude about WOI having to be stuck with the last-place network), they continued their then-common practice of wiping out ABC series that weren't generally as beloved as their hits...although they never did show the daytime LMAD or American Bandstand.  

But then a funny thing happened:  ABC soared to #1 in 1976 and poor old stodgy WOI was caught with their pants down.  "Welcome Back, Kotter" didn't debut on WOI till early December with the Debralee Scott "Hotsie Totsie" ep (and that was via a Sunday afternoon tape-delay that stayed with it till midseason), "Laverne & Shirley" didn't get on till a month after ABC began it (whereupon the local half-hour WOI used to bump it and "Kotter" got placed where it ALWAYS should have been: in the 6:30 access slot the FCC DESIGNED for stuff like that), and it took a very strong and strident letter to those dumbass Program Managers at WOI--sent by me--to cajole them into running the "Feud", which they did maybe a month or two after the ABC debut.  They were airing at 12:30 weekdays a local discussion show, and they revamped and moved it to 11:30 AM to make room for the "Feud".
Fortunately, FF caught on in Central Iowa the way it did everywhere else.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: aaron sica on April 09, 2005, 04:44:25 PM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 04:28 PM\']
and it took a very strong and strident letter to those dumbass Program Managers at WOI--sent by me--to cajole them into running the "Feud", which they did maybe a month or two after the ABC debut.  They were airing at 12:30 weekdays a local discussion show, and they revamped and moved it to 11:30 AM to make room for the "Feud".
Fortunately, FF caught on in Central Iowa the way it did everywhere else.
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I wished that the internet would have been more accessible in 1990; I would have beat down the door at WNEP and WPVI for at least *one* of them to air MG90. They both had noon news at the time; WNEP carried the entire "Home" show from 11am-noon; WPVI carried Sally Jessy Raphael from 10:30-11:30, and the last half hour of "home" from 11:30-noon. They should have just aired MG90 at 11:30 instead. I always found it baffling that a large market station such as WPVI didn't air it.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: BrandonFG on April 09, 2005, 05:28:03 PM
I'd have to check out some old microfilm, but I'm pretty sure that WVEC had Feud all the way until June 85.

If I'm not mistaken, Feud was the next-to-last ABC daytime show WVEC aired. Don't think they had All-Star Blitz or Bargain Hunters, and they only aired the first few months on MG90.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: aaron sica on April 09, 2005, 05:31:20 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 05:28 PM\']If I'm not mistaken, Feud was the next-to-last ABC daytime show WVEC aired. Don't think they had All-Star Blitz or Bargain Hunters, and they only aired the first few months on MG90.
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They most certainly did air the first few months of MG90, at 10:30am, correct? I vacationed that summer in Norfolk for a few days, and once I found the 10am show to be a half-hour program, I tuned in at 10:30, wondering and hoping........and indeed, it was MG90. I even had the episode on tape for a long time.....The panel had Bob Sarlotte and Mary Wickes, and the contestant's name was Ingrid....

Yet another tape I'd wish I'd saved...
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: BrandonFG on April 09, 2005, 05:37:20 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 04:31 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 05:28 PM\']If I'm not mistaken, Feud was the next-to-last ABC daytime show WVEC aired. Don't think they had All-Star Blitz or Bargain Hunters, and they only aired the first few months on MG90.
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They most certainly did air the first few months of MG90, at 10:30am, correct? I vacationed that summer in Norfolk for a few days, and once I found the 10am show to be a half-hour program, I tuned in at 10:30, wondering and hoping........and indeed, it was MG90. I even had the episode on tape for a long time.....The panel had Bob Sarlotte and Mary Wickes, and the contestant's name was Ingrid....
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(thinks for a minute)

That sounds about right...and in fall 1990, it must've moved to 10 am, because I remember Trump Card taking the 10:30 slot, against TTTT on NBC.

(I know TTTT was 11 am in most markets, but here it was 10:30.)

How I miss those days. :-)
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: aaron sica on April 09, 2005, 05:39:37 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 05:37 PM\']
(I know TTTT was 11 am in most markets, but here it was 10:30.)

How I miss those days. :-)
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TTTT I think I got to see once or twice. If I'm not mistaken, once the fall rolled around, WBRE-28 from Scranton chose not to air TTTT, but (gasp!) TJW90 instead.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: Johnissoevil on April 09, 2005, 07:39:00 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 01:13 PM\']
6-WPVI in Philadelphia continued to air Feud at 11:30am from June 1980-June 1983. Once "Loving" premiered, Family Feud actually moved to WTAF-29 and aired at noon (whether it was the live feed, I do not know). 6 also aired Ryan's Hope at 11:30 instead of Feud.
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I remember being surprised at this for two reasons.  It always surprised me when the Philly indies would pick up the network game shows.  Of course, now that I know of the way the owners of stations in that city (coughWestinghousecough) preempted network shows, and not just game shows, and sent them over to the indies, I'm not as surprised as I was back then.  Another was that WKBS 48 was usually the alternate ABC affiliate.  Of course, nobody my age at the time understood that Field was having trouble selling 48, and that the station's impending demise was not far away.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: aaron sica on April 09, 2005, 07:44:38 PM
[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 07:39 PM\']I remember being surprised at this for two reasons.  It always surprised me when the Philly indies would pick up the network game shows.  Of course, now that I know of the way the owners of stations in that city (coughWestinghousecough) preempted network shows, and not just game shows, and sent them over to the indies, I'm not as surprised as I was back then.  Another was that WKBS 48 was usually the alternate ABC affiliate.  Of course, nobody my age at the time understood that Field was having trouble selling 48, and that the station's impending demise was not far away.
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Yes, otherwise, Feud may have aired on 48 for a good while instead of 29. Once fall '83 hit, daytime Feud was gone from Philly TV sets forever.

From my old TV Guides and my own memories, 48 did an admirable job with picking up ABC stuff that 6 wouldn't air - they aired "Second Chance", "$20,000 Pyramid", and the daytime reruns of "Love Boat", "Three's Company", and "Too Close For Comfort" until they went dark in late August, '83. I think they may have also aired "Edge of Night".

And as stated previously, 17 also eventually picked up "Chain Reaction", and they previously aired "America Alive". 29 I've also seen as airing Blockbusters and Las Vegas Gambit, and Fantasy as well.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: zachhoran on April 09, 2005, 08:09:18 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 06:44 PM\']

Yes, otherwise, Feud may have aired on 48 for a good while instead of 29. Once fall '83 hit, daytime Feud was gone from Philly TV sets forever.

From my old TV Guides and my own memories, 48 did an admirable job with picking up ABC stuff that 6 wouldn't air - they aired "Second Chance", "$20,000 Pyramid", and the daytime reruns of "Love Boat", "Three's Company", and "Too Close For Comfort" until they went dark in late August, '83. I think they may have also aired "Edge of Night".

And as stated previously, 17 also eventually picked up "Chain Reaction", and they previously aired "America Alive". 29 I've also seen as airing Blockbusters and Las Vegas Gambit, and Fantasy as well.
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CHannel 17 aired some of the run of the orginal Fleming J!. Channel 29 also aired Time Machine, Your Number's Up, Facts of Life and other NBC 10AM sitcom reruns in the 80s, and part of Caesar's Challenge's run.

Those closer to Atlantic City like Xanfan will recall WMGM NBC 40 in Wildwood/Atlantic City airing an hour of ABC daytime programming from 1984-88 or so, including all ABC daytime game shows aired during that period. Not to mention that they aired all NBC daytime game shows KYW channel 3 did not air from the early 80s(when they started picking up a signal prior to 12 Noon) through 1993, save for most of Caesar's Challenge's run and the final months of Concentration repeats.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: GSWitch on April 10, 2005, 10:18:01 AM
KTRK (Houston) had the Feud @ 11:00 from 1980-84.  KTRK dropped it in the fall of 1984 to carry Loving for the first time.  

KSAT (San Antonio) never carried the ABC 11:00 slot.  Instead they had...

11:00-All My Children (tape delay)
NOON-KSAT News @ Noon
12:30-Ryan's Hope

So they missed out on both $20,000 Pyramid & Family Feud.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: Ian Wallis on April 10, 2005, 03:51:15 PM
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I wished that the internet would have been more accessible in 1990; I would have beat down the door at WNEP and WPVI for at least *one* of them to air MG90.


Same in my area.  Niether WKBW nor WOKR aired "Match Game '90" - it wasn't until I got some out of town TV Guides after it's debut that I saw it in the listings.  At first I was surprised, but with the celebrities they listed I figured it was a new version.  

WKBW dropped "Feud" a couple of years before its conclusion, and WOKR tape-delayed it one day by that time.  Because of college, I never did see the finale until I traded for it in the late '90s!

Maybe that's another reason why "Feud's" ratings were on the downswing by the early '80s - because many stations aired News in the noon slot.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: aaron sica on April 10, 2005, 03:56:16 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Apr 10 2005, 03:51 PM\']
Same in my area.  Niether WKBW nor WOKR aired "Match Game '90" - it wasn't until I got some out of town TV Guides after it's debut that I saw it in the listings.  At first I was surprised, but with the celebrities they listed I figured it was a new version. 
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I didn't know about it until February 1990, when reading the TV/Radio page of the Philadelphia Inquirer, and at the time, of course, they reported Bert Convy as being the host. And it also said "Channel 6 won't carry it." I honestly thought that 29 would have picked it up (they aired Perfect Strangers reruns on a one-day delay at 10am..I thought they would have done the same for MG90).

My local TV Guide also didn't have an ad for it, considering it was only airing on WABC-7 and WHTM-27 in the Central PA edition. And, come fall, WHTM-27 shelved it in favor of "Trump Card", and when "Trump Card" tanked at midseason, they put on "People's Court" instead. 27 did put it back on for the last month or so of the run.
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Post by: Ian Wallis on April 10, 2005, 04:02:51 PM
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I didn't know about it until February 1990, when reading the TV/Radio page of the Philadelphia Inquirer, and at the time, of course, they reported Bert Convy as being the host. And it also said "Channel 6 won't carry it."


I must admit I'm surprised it wasn't carried by the Philadelphia ABC affiliate.  Didn't someone post once that usually stations in the largest and smallest cities woud air virtually all of the network's shows - and stations in the "medium" cities would be most likely to pre-empt?  I think there was a thread about that in the early days of this forum.  You'd think a big market like Philly would have aired it.

Or maybe it was just the industry's general disdain for game shows that caused some of these decisions(?)
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: highwayman128 on April 10, 2005, 07:40:40 PM
This is how the ABC version of Family Feud was carried in Boston

July 12, 1976- September 1977- WCVB 5- (1:30pm)
September 1977-September 1978- WCVB 5- (5pm)- (ABC TAPE DELAY)
September 1978-September 1980  WCVB 5- (4:30pm) (ABC TAPE DELAY)
September 1980- September 1981- WCVB 5- (10am)-
What Boston station showed the Family Feud ABC version for the 1981-82 season
September 1982- September 1983- WQTV 68 (10:30am)
September 1983- September 1984- WLVI 56- (11:30am)
September 1984- June 14, 1985- WQTV 68- (9:30am)

This is how the CBS version of Family Feud was carried in Boston
July 1988- May 1989- WNEV 7- (10:30am)
June 1989- September 1989- WNEV 7- (5:30pm)
September 1989-January 1991 WNEV/WHDH 7- (10:00am)
February 1991- September 1991- WHDH 7 (10:30am)
September 1991- March 1992- WHLL 27 (10:30am)
April 1992- June 1992- WHDH 7- (10:30am)
June 1992- September 1993- WHDH 7 (10:00am) (FAMILY FEUD CHALLENGE)

This is how the Dawson syndicated version was carried in Boston
May 1979-September 1981 WNAC 7 (7:30pm)
September 1981- September 1982- WNAC/WNEV 7- (5:30pm)
September 1982- September 1983- WBZ 4 (5:00pm)
September 1983- September 1984- WCVB 5 (5:00pm)
What Boston station showed the syndicated version in the 1984-85 season

During the 1985-86, reruns of the Dawson syndicated version was on at 4:30pm from September 1985 to January 1986 and 9am from January 1986 to June 1986

This is how the Combs syndicated version was carried in Boston
September 1988-September 1990 WBZ 4 (4:30pm)
September 1990- January 1991  WBZ 4 (2:00am) (WHY WBZ showed the Feud at 2 in the morning?!)
February 1991- September 1991- WBZ 4 (4:30pm)
September 1991- December 1991 WBZ 4- (2:00am)
What station showed the syndicated verison from January 1992 to September 1994, BTW

The Dawson version of 1994-95 was on WSBK Channel 38 at 1pm.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: trainman on April 10, 2005, 10:21:39 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Apr 10 2005, 01:02 PM\']I must admit I'm surprised it wasn't carried by the Philadelphia ABC affiliate.  Didn't someone post once that usually stations in the largest and smallest cities woud air virtually all of the network's shows - and stations in the "medium" cities would be most likely to pre-empt?  I think there was a thread about that in the early days of this forum.  You'd think a big market like Philly would have aired it.
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Historically, it wasn't really what I'd describe as "medium" cities that were most likely to pre-empt; it was the cities that were just smaller than the largest cities -- say, anything that was a Top 25 market where the network affiliate wasn't an O&O.  The good news is that those areas were also more likely to have an independent station available to air pre-empted network programming (see highwayman128's above post, for example).

But the Philadelphia "Match Game" situation is kind of the exception that proves the rule here:  WPVI has been an ABC O&O since the Capital Cities takeover in the mid-1980s.
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Post by: ChuckNet on April 13, 2005, 01:03:02 AM
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From my old TV Guides and my own memories, 48 did an admirable job with picking up ABC stuff that 6 wouldn't air - they aired "Second Chance", "$20,000 Pyramid", and the daytime reruns of "Love Boat", "Three's Company", and "Too Close For Comfort" until they went dark in late August, '83. I think they may have also aired "Edge of Night".

They did indeed...solely as a public service for soap fans outraged by WPVI's decision not to carry it.

And while not a network pre-empted GS, Ch. 48 also aired The $50K Pyramid in early 1981...in fact, most of the eps in the trading circuit were recorded off said station, as anyone who attended GSC11 and saw my tape can tell you. :-)

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Post by: ChuckNet on April 13, 2005, 01:07:54 AM
Recalling some Providence TVGs from the era, not a single ABC affiliate listed (WCVB/5, Boston; WTNH/8, Hartford-New Haven; WPRI/12, Providence) carried MG '90...Boston viewers got it on Worcester indie WHLL (Ch. 27, now Univison affiliate WUNI), and Fox affiliate WTIC (Ch. 61) aired it in Hartford.

Back in the day, WHLL was kind of a "savior" to deprived New England-area GS fans...they also aired Super J!, Monopoly, and for a time, the aforementioned daytime Combs FF.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Post by: zachhoran on April 13, 2005, 07:56:31 AM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Apr 13 2005, 12:07 AM\']

Back in the day, WHLL was kind of a "savior" to deprived New England-area GS fans...they also aired Super J!, Monopoly, and for a time, the aforementioned daytime Combs FF.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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A non-ABC station was airing ABC PRIMETIME programming? THat's unusual
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Post by: Don Howard on April 13, 2005, 10:02:45 AM
WEWS-TV 5 (catch 5 and you've caught it all) in Cleveland ran the show until the move to 12noon in 1980. Then that was it except for the 11am reruns of the All-Star specials which ran during Summer 1984 after the Olympics ended and while Trivia Trap, which TV-5 never aired, was being readied so ABC wouldn't have to bring Tawny Schneider (what a dish!) and her celebrity gossip show back. WCLQ-TV Channel 61 played daytime FF for a while in the early 1980s along with The Edge Of Night but that was short-lived.
And now a personal note...which I seldom do....a personal note: I am off on an extended vacation where they is no internet and no cell phones (if there is, I won't be using them because it's a vacation). It'll be glorious and I'll see you cybernetically in a month or so upon my return.
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Post by: bellbm on April 13, 2005, 08:11:52 PM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 03:28 PM\']With 5-WOI in Ames, Iowa, it was just the opposite.  They didn't carry it at first, but once they did, they stayed with it to the end of the ABC run, IIRC.  Back in that 1975-76 season, when the station was still primarily in Ames and owned by Iowa State University (and one would suspect that the way they ended up being a primary ABC station in 1955 when Omaha had to wait two years after that to get their own, led to a general sour grapes attitude about WOI having to be stuck with the last-place network), they continued their then-common practice of wiping out ABC series that weren't generally as beloved as their hits...although they never did show the daytime LMAD or American Bandstand. 

But then a funny thing happened:  ABC soared to #1 in 1976 and poor old stodgy WOI was caught with their pants down.  "Welcome Back, Kotter" didn't debut on WOI till early December with the Debralee Scott "Hotsie Totsie" ep (and that was via a Sunday afternoon tape-delay that stayed with it till midseason), "Laverne & Shirley" didn't get on till a month after ABC began it (whereupon the local half-hour WOI used to bump it and "Kotter" got placed where it ALWAYS should have been: in the 6:30 access slot the FCC DESIGNED for stuff like that), and it took a very strong and strident letter to those dumbass Program Managers at WOI--sent by me--to cajole them into running the "Feud", which they did maybe a month or two after the ABC debut.  They were airing at 12:30 weekdays a local discussion show, and they revamped and moved it to 11:30 AM to make room for the "Feud".
Fortunately, FF caught on in Central Iowa the way it did everywhere else.
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I lived in Eastern Iowa, and while WOI was not our main ABC Afiiliate, I remember watching Magic Window at 11:30, when did that show start, and when did it go off the air?

I also remember Channel 5 pre-empting the 11:00 ( or Noon EST) show in favor of reruns of One Day at a Time or Alice.

KCRG, the Cedar Rapids Affil ran Feud up until its end.  They were pretty good about carrying ABC programming until they began running Donahue in 1987.

I also always found it strange that KCCI, the CBS affiliate in Des Moines, did not run the CBS version of Wheel of Fortune, yet they ran the syndicated version for a number of years.  I guess they must have really been locked into that contract to re-run Jeopardy at 9:30 AM.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: aaron sica on April 13, 2005, 08:31:19 PM
[quote name=\'bellbm\' date=\'Apr 13 2005, 08:11 PM\']I also remember Channel 5 pre-empting the 11:00 ( or Noon EST) show in favor of reruns of One Day at a Time or Alice.

KCRG, the Cedar Rapids Affil ran Feud up until its end.  They were pretty good about carrying ABC programming until they began running Donahue in 1987.

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Actually, the noon (EST) show (in some markets it showed at noon) *was* One Day at a Time, from February 1980 to September 1981. Alice aired at 10:30 (EST) from June 1980 to September 1982.

Out of curiosity, what did KCRG start missing out on in 1987? I'm guessing they didn't air those back-to-back reruns of Who's the Boss and Mr. Belvedere...
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Post by: DjohnsonCB on April 13, 2005, 11:29:04 PM
[quote name=\'bellbm\' date=\'Apr 13 2005, 07:11 PM\'][quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 03:28 PM\']With 5-WOI in Ames, Iowa, it was just the opposite.  They didn't carry it at first, but once they did, they stayed with it to the end of the ABC run, IIRC.  Back in that 1975-76 season, when the station was still primarily in Ames and owned by Iowa State University (and one would suspect that the way they ended up being a primary ABC station in 1955 when Omaha had to wait two years after that to get their own, led to a general sour grapes attitude about WOI having to be stuck with the last-place network), they continued their then-common practice of wiping out ABC series that weren't generally as beloved as their hits...although they never did show the daytime LMAD or American Bandstand. 

But then a funny thing happened:  ABC soared to #1 in 1976 and poor old stodgy WOI was caught with their pants down.  "Welcome Back, Kotter" didn't debut on WOI till early December with the Debralee Scott "Hotsie Totsie" ep (and that was via a Sunday afternoon tape-delay that stayed with it till midseason), "Laverne & Shirley" didn't get on till a month after ABC began it (whereupon the local half-hour WOI used to bump it and "Kotter" got placed where it ALWAYS should have been: in the 6:30 access slot the FCC DESIGNED for stuff like that), and it took a very strong and strident letter to those dumbass Program Managers at WOI--sent by me--to cajole them into running the "Feud", which they did maybe a month or two after the ABC debut.  They were airing at 12:30 weekdays a local discussion show, and they revamped and moved it to 11:30 AM to make room for the "Feud".
Fortunately, FF caught on in Central Iowa the way it did everywhere else.
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I lived in Eastern Iowa, and while WOI was not our main ABC Afiiliate, I remember watching Magic Window at 11:30, when did that show start, and when did it go off the air?

I also remember Channel 5 pre-empting the 11:00 ( or Noon EST) show in favor of reruns of One Day at a Time or Alice.

KCRG, the Cedar Rapids Affil ran Feud up until its end.  They were pretty good about carrying ABC programming until they began running Donahue in 1987.

I also always found it strange that KCCI, the CBS affiliate in Des Moines, did not run the CBS version of Wheel of Fortune, yet they ran the syndicated version for a number of years.  I guess they must have really been locked into that contract to re-run Jeopardy at 9:30 AM.
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I couldn't say when "The Magic Window" began, but I do know that I spent some of my first ten years watching it with my sister before we left Des Moines for K.C.
(For the benefit of those curious, it was one of those studio kiddie shows with a human host and puppet friends who introduced cartoons and showed craft segments, and was one of the last in the nation to go off the air after the station's long-overdue sale to Citadel, sometime in the mid-'90s, whereupon the show's host and many others lost their jobs).

As for KCCI not bothering to air WoF on CBS daytime when they had the nighttime show,  that wasn't so unusual.  They always had some 30-or-60 minute show in place of a CBS daytime show or two, from Mary Jane Chinn to Mary Brubaker to Merv Griffin to reruns of Real People to Headline Chasers, until finally picking up Regis & Kathie Lee in March 1990.  Also, despite the success of LMAD, it never aired in the daytime there until the last AM incarnation (the NBC Sunday night show in 1967 and the once-weekly syndie version were picked up there), and they were the last market in the nation to clear the NBC soaps "Days Of Our Lives" and "The Doctors" in the '80s.

I don't want to go too far off topic and into detail here, but I did some research and found that the Des Moines affiliates ripped the nets' 1966-67 nighttime schedule to shreds even more than the K.C. stations did with the 1969-70 lineup. Suffice it to say that The Monkees' only airtime exposure there was on radio at first.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: bellbm on April 14, 2005, 09:26:52 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Apr 13 2005, 07:31 PM\'][quote name=\'bellbm\' date=\'Apr 13 2005, 08:11 PM\']I also remember Channel 5 pre-empting the 11:00 ( or Noon EST) show in favor of reruns of One Day at a Time or Alice.

KCRG, the Cedar Rapids Affil ran Feud up until its end.  They were pretty good about carrying ABC programming until they began running Donahue in 1987.

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Actually, the noon (EST) show (in some markets it showed at noon) *was* One Day at a Time, from February 1980 to September 1981. Alice aired at 10:30 (EST) from June 1980 to September 1982.

Out of curiosity, what did KCRG start missing out on in 1987? I'm guessing they didn't air those back-to-back reruns of Who's the Boss and Mr. Belvedere...
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IIRC, KCRG picked up Donahue from KGAN in March of 1987, and aired it at 9AM, pushing Hour Magazine to 10AM.  I can't remember what was airing on ABC at 10AM at the time, but I know Webster was on at 10:30.
In the fall of 87, they dropped Hour Magazine and aired Sally Jessey Raphael at 10:00 (her show was only 1/2 hour at that time), making room for Mr. Belevedere at 10:30 (which they aired).  Whenever SJR expanded to an hour, they aired it from 10:30-11:30, and by this time the Home Show was on from 10-11, so they aired the first 1/2 hour of Home.  So they never aired reruns of Growing Pains, or Perfect Strangers, or Match Game 90.
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: Passepartout on April 14, 2005, 07:25:08 PM
Where I lived in Seymour TN, it kept the show all the way until the very last show which was and still is good news that they kept it until the last good-bye!!
Title: The waning Family Feud...
Post by: chrispw1 on December 13, 2006, 02:08:50 PM
In Chicago it was probably a bad sign when in the fall of 1984 WMAQ 5 bumped it from 6:30 pm to 1:30 in the morning to air Jim Lange's Name That Tune. Also, similar to what channel 5 would do in 1987 with bumping Wheel to afternoons for Dating Game then High Rollers,  WLS channel 7 bumped the daytime version to 3 pm in its last year to air Every Second Counts at 10:30 am.