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I've heard that On The Spot is getting refurbished, but when (and if) will it be back?
Are Time and Money and Penny Ante retired? Just curious. Also, when is the next playing of Golden Road scheduled to air?
Thanks in advance(and no, these were not troll questions!)
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Right now, according to our friends at golden-road.net (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net\"), "On the Spot," "Time is Money" and "Penny Ante" are all not retired and are "in the shop." However, "Spot" has a very little chance of coming back without a totally upside-down revamp. "Time is Money" is a bit closer to possibility...as a turntable game in the future. It got sent to the shop due to editing required to check the amount of wrong items between turns.
"Penny Ante" just recently got bumped up to an awesome status. It's set to be rebuilt (since the old prop was destroyed in the rain during its brief period in full retirement) after the next new pricing game debuts.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Mar 17 2005, 03:13 PM\']"Penny Ante" just recently got bumped up to an awesome status. It's set to be rebuilt (since the old prop was destroyed in the rain during its brief period in full retirement) after the next new pricing game debuts.
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And one brand new game under construction is a winner from the most prolific new creative contributor to the grandaddy of game shows! I'm sure you'll hear more about it as it gets ready to debut!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 17 2005, 07:09 PM\']And one brand new game under construction is a winner from the most prolific new creative contributor to the grandaddy of game shows[/quote]
Well, I hope the hype is worth it this time.
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 17 2005, 07:09 PM\'][quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Mar 17 2005, 03:13 PM\']"Penny Ante" just recently got bumped up to an awesome status. It's set to be rebuilt (since the old prop was destroyed in the rain during its brief period in full retirement) after the next new pricing game debuts.
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And one brand new game under construction is a winner from the most prolific new creative contributor to the grandaddy of game shows! I'm sure you'll hear more about it as it gets ready to debut!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Will it be this season or next Randy?
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Mar 18 2005, 10:08 AM\']Will it be this season or next Randy?
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I don't know. But as it takes some time to build, test, block and rehearse new games... and since the new season starts taping around June... it could easily be for next season. Perhaps even on the season debut!
But again, and I'm never afraid to admit it, I don't know ;-)
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Over at G-R.net, it was mentioned that it was possible that the game would premiere late in this season, but most likely would premiere early in season 34.
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 17 2005, 07:09 PM\']And one brand new game under construction is a winner from the most prolific new creative contributor to the grandaddy of game shows! I'm sure you'll hear more about it as it gets ready to debut!
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Alright, it's the all new Traders Bob Jr.!!!! ;-)
Charles Atkin
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That game, by the way, will be a milestone game...it will be the 100th pricing game created for the show. And it had better be good since two of the last five have gone down in flames with a third needing some bent slugs kicked out of its slot.
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What's the problem with On the Spot?
I like that game a lot, easy to win (though the contestants always make it hard).
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[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 06:45 AM\']What's the problem with On the Spot?
I like that game a lot, easy to win (though the contestants always make it hard).
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It's a game that actually rewards pricing skills. They occasionally used small prizes that weren't seen in other games to make it more difficult for the people who memorize certain frequently used items and their prices. I had no problem with the game, though the set stuck out a bit, with that On the Spot logo being to the left of the gameboard.
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I *gasp* agree with Zach here. The set was okay, the game pretty okay. I just found the whole thing in action pretty awkward on the show.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 09:39 AM\']I *gasp* agree with Zach here. The set was okay, the game pretty okay. I just found the whole thing in action pretty awkward on the show.
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I have no memory of seeing the show being played. I read the rulesheet at Brad Francini's TPiR site, and couldn't get a firm grasp of the rules. Seemed very complicated.
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It's fairly simple to explain, I thought. Brad's writing sometimes does that I found, so let me try and explain it and see if it's easier. There are six small prizes and three "paths" each consisting of three prices. Upon stepping on a path, the contestant has to guess which prize costs the first price. If they're right, they move to the next price and do the same thing. If they clear all three prices in a path, they win a car.
Two little caveats: the prices repeat across paths, and the prize's prices aren't revealed until you guess it right.
Yeah, sounds confusing...my bad.
-Jason
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There was nothing complicated about it. The game plain, outright sucked! Bente's pastel barffest made yet another appearance, and then again with (IMHO an Eh game) Half Off, among the rest of the pastel pukechunks around the studio... Then you had the prices on the boardall screwed up half the time, making for at least 1 technical win, and then, a few other times, some prizes not appearing on the slotting. The game was just boring, to say the least.
Now as for this new game, it was originally slated for late this season, following Half Off's premiere, and I don't ever recall anyone who had a definite word of saying that it would probably be next season... But I could be wrong.
As for the return of Penny Ante, it is on hold til after the MDS's tape, and is second in line to the new game, as it stands right now. As for OTS and TiM, who knows. TiM will probably reappear as a turntable game, and OTS is well, currently slated for the crapper.
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[quote name=\'TunaHead\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 03:41 PM\']and then, a few other times, some prizes not appearing on the slotting.
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Not that I expect this to change your opinion of the game...but that only happened on its last two playings, and then it was done intentionally. All through seasons 31 and 32, the first price on each path was also the second price on one of the other paths, and the prices at the end of the paths only appeared once each.
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[quote name=\'TunaHead\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 03:41 PM\']The game plain, outright sucked! Bente's pastel barffest made yet another appearance, and then again with (IMHO an Eh game)[/quote]
If there ever had to be an award for not being tactful, this would be it.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 05:56 PM\'][quote name=\'TunaHead\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 03:41 PM\']The game plain, outright sucked! Bente's pastel barffest made yet another appearance, and then again with (IMHO an Eh game)[/quote]
If there ever had to be an award for not being tactful, this would be it.
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Why? It's his opinion. He has a right to express it.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 04:27 PM\']Not that I expect this to change your opinion of the game...but that only happened on its last two playings, and then it was done intentionally. All through seasons 31 and 32, the first price on each path was also the second price on one of the other paths, and the prices at the end of the paths only appeared once each.
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Hmm, they changed it? That was what made it a decent game, those three prizes forming six choices and the way that all three paths intertwined. That change really hurts the game, if I understand you correctly. That means that at least one of the paths was a dead end right from the start?
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[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 02:46 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 04:27 PM\']Not that I expect this to change your opinion of the game...but that only happened on its last two playings, and then it was done intentionally. All through seasons 31 and 32, the first price on each path was also the second price on one of the other paths, and the prices at the end of the paths only appeared once each.
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Hmm, they changed it? That was what made it a decent game, those three prizes forming six choices and the way that all three paths intertwined. That change really hurts the game, if I understand you correctly. That means that at least one of the paths was a dead end right from the start?
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In answer to the OP, there are no confusing games, just REALLY confused viewers after reading the above posts.
The game has not changed (aside from the price layout on the 'spots') since the original airing.
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[quote name=\'TunaHead\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 03:41 PM\']Bente's pastel barffest made yet another appearance
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I agree wholeheartedly. Now who is Bente? What happened to the design person or art director (not sure who decides how games look) who preceeded him/her? Or are there more than one designer--Pocket Change and Bonkers not being part of the pastel barffest.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 03:40 PM\'][quote name=\'TunaHead\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 03:41 PM\']Bente's pastel barffest made yet another appearance
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I agree wholeheartedly. Now who is Bente? What happened to the design person or art director (not sure who decides how games look) who preceeded him/her? Or are there more than one designer--Pocket Change and Bonkers not being part of the pastel barffest.
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Emmy nominee Bente Christensen is a she.
Wasn't Jack Hart Bente's predecessor--or was there someone between them during those years when I lost track of "TPIR?"
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 04:04 PM\']Emmy nominee Bente Christensen is a she.
Wasn't Jack Hart Bente's predecessor--or was there someone between them during those years when I lost track of "TPIR?"
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Emmy winner for TPIR? And that is the same Jack Hart of Mad magazine, correct?
Perhaps "pastel barffest" is overstating it, but Bob's TPIR wasn't tacky when it started and it sure is now. The doors, the turntable, games such as those mentioned. Yuck!
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 07:40 PM\']
Emmy winner for TPIR? And that is the same Jack Hart of Mad magazine, correct?
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Dick Debartolo was the GT employee associated with Mad Magazine IIRC. I don't know of a Jack Hart working for Mad, but maybe there it was.
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Neumms, are you thinking of MAD artist Jack Davis? Or Stan Hart the writer?
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I know the thread has sorta veered in another direction, but...
[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 02:46 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 04:27 PM\']Not that I expect this to change your opinion of the game...but that only happened on its last two playings, and then it was done intentionally. All through seasons 31 and 32, the first price on each path was also the second price on one of the other paths, and the prices at the end of the paths only appeared once each.
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Hmm, they changed it? That was what made it a decent game, those three prizes forming six choices and the way that all three paths intertwined. That change really hurts the game, if I understand you correctly. That means that at least one of the paths was a dead end right from the start?
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Actually, what was being said was that on the last two playings, not all of the prices were used in the paths -- the second-last playing only used five, and the last only used four (with two of the paths having the same three prices, but in different orders). I guess they wanted to make it easier to win...but On the Spot doesn't strike me as a game that's supposed to be easy.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 04:04 PM\']Wasn't Jack Hart Bente's predecessor--or was there someone between them during those years when I lost track of "TPIR?"
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I think it went from Jack to Bente c. 1997, but as they were art directors, there was a set decorator (is there a difference?) that Bob mentioned during one X-mas ep. back in the mid-90s. He was shown on camera, but I really can't remember the name.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 07:40 PM\']Perhaps "pastel barffest" is overstating it, but Bob's TPIR wasn't tacky when it started and it sure is now. The doors, the turntable, games such as those mentioned. Yuck!
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It wasn't tacky when it started? All right, but I have a strict limit on viewing tan and orange myself.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Mar 22 2005, 01:30 AM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 04:04 PM\']Wasn't Jack Hart Bente's predecessor--or was there someone between them during those years when I lost track of "TPIR?"
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I think it went from Jack to Bente c. 1997, but as they were art directors, there was a set decorator (is there a difference?) that Bob mentioned during one X-mas ep. back in the mid-90s. He was shown on camera, but I really can't remember the name.
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Corrections appreciated, but I believe the difference between "art direction" and "set decorator" is that the art director (or "set designer" or "production designer") is responsible for the overall set layout and design, while the set decorator is responsible for choosing, sprucing up and arranging large props and set pieces. "TPIR"'s set decorators are co-nominated with Bente this year for the Emmy.
On "Wheel," I believe that while Richard Stiles does the major set design changes, art director Renee Hoss-Johnson (?) comes up with the center-stage set designs that change every week, often by simply taking stock stuff out of the Sony studio warehouse and rearranging it.
Once again, corrections from industry people would be greatly appreciated.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 04:31 AM\'][quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 02:46 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 04:27 PM\']Not that I expect this to change your opinion of the game...but that only happened on its last two playings, and then it was done intentionally. All through seasons 31 and 32, the first price on each path was also the second price on one of the other paths, and the prices at the end of the paths only appeared once each.
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Hmm, they changed it? That was what made it a decent game, those three prizes forming six choices and the way that all three paths intertwined. That change really hurts the game, if I understand you correctly. That means that at least one of the paths was a dead end right from the start?
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In answer to the OP, there are no confusing games, just REALLY confused viewers after reading the above posts.
The game has not changed (aside from the price layout on the 'spots') since the original airing.
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Yeah, I have to agree with you TVWxman. Anybody recently watched a Clock Game or Race Game(today) playing? Seems like the old school games are hard to figure out, and the new ones are getting wins. Makes sense(not).
As for the colors on OTS, it was given a bad rap due to the fact that the "Hollywood Barfbowl" was in the background. Talk about psychadelic!!! I'm sure Randy can put his 2 cents worth on that one.
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Apr 5 2005, 01:49 PM\'][quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 04:31 AM\'][quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 02:46 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Mar 19 2005, 04:27 PM\']Not that I expect this to change your opinion of the game...but that only happened on its last two playings, and then it was done intentionally. All through seasons 31 and 32, the first price on each path was also the second price on one of the other paths, and the prices at the end of the paths only appeared once each.
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Hmm, they changed it? That was what made it a decent game, those three prizes forming six choices and the way that all three paths intertwined. That change really hurts the game, if I understand you correctly. That means that at least one of the paths was a dead end right from the start?
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In answer to the OP, there are no confusing games, just REALLY confused viewers after reading the above posts.
The game has not changed (aside from the price layout on the 'spots') since the original airing.
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Yeah, I have to agree with you TVWxman. Anybody recently watched a Clock Game or Race Game(today) playing? Seems like the old school games are hard to figure out, and the new ones are getting wins. Makes sense(not).
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Perhaps the odds of getting someone frequently who could play those games in the calm, methodical manner they need to be played are a lot less today than they used to be. Perhaps the newer games are being formulated to take advantage of the fact that the average contestant is not as bright as they used to be.
I can imagine that when your typical fratboy sees Clock Game coming around--if he even recognizes it--he immediately becomes petrified that it is a game that he'll have to win or lose on his own without the help of his frat buddies in the audience.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Mar 22 2005, 01:41 AM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 07:40 PM\']Perhaps "pastel barffest" is overstating it, but Bob's TPIR wasn't tacky when it started and it sure is now. The doors, the turntable, games such as those mentioned. Yuck!
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It wasn't tacky when it started? All right, but I have a strict limit on viewing tan and orange myself.
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Hey now, orange and brown were big back then. And they did paint the whole set two or three years later, only to leave it that way for about 20 years.
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Yeah, I have to agree with you TVWxman. Anybody recently watched a Clock Game or Race Game(today) playing? Seems like the old school games are hard to figure out, and the new ones are getting wins. Makes sense(not).
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What about the contestant yesterday who didn't understand the more recent debuted game FLip Flop, pressing the damn price reveal button before flipping, flopping or flip flopping.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Apr 5 2005, 09:26 PM\']What about the contestant yesterday who didn't understand the more recent debuted game FLip Flop, pressing the damn price reveal button before flipping, flopping or flip flopping.
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http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=7479 (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=7479\")
You mean Zach actually missed something in the spoiler section? When I requested exiling him from that section, I didn't think he'd take it seriously. :-)
It's a joke, Zach. I even included a smiley face.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Apr 5 2005, 04:00 PM\']I can imagine that when your typical fratboy sees Clock Game coming around--if he even recognizes it--he immediately becomes petrified that is a game that he'll to have win or lose on his own without the help of his frat buddies in the audience.[/quote]
To say nothing of the help of some basic knowledge of mathematics.