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Now is a good time for 'Family Feud' in afternoons.
The daily hour really shows how different Richard Dawson and Ray Combs were. Its the difference between night and day really. In my opinion you are either prefer the Dawson half or the Combs half with no in-between.
Right now the in the ABC run Richard has been at his droll, unpredictable best and shows why he was the shows marquee draw in the late Seventies.
In the Combs half Ray, with over a year of expirence now, acts like a clown throughout most of the show, sometimes even bringing the game to a halt that understandably must have driven Howard Felsher nuts. For instance yesterday he had the fifth players on each team switch sides during a round.
Apples and oranges. I like apples.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 11:41 AM\']Apples and oranges. I like apples.
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Speak for yourself. While I acknowledge that Dawson and Combs were very different in their hosting styles, I actually like both of them. The hosts that came after them, on the other hand...
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[quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 08:16 PM\']The hosts that came after them, on the other hand...
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You mean like Louie "Is it up 'dere???" Anderson? His voice got so much on my nerves, it made the show unwatchable.
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But how can you hate Richard Karn? How on earth can you hate a man who...DOUBLES THE POINTS??? ;-)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 08:51 PM\'][quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 08:16 PM\']The hosts that came after them, on the other hand...
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You mean like Louie "Is it up 'dere???" Anderson? His voice got so much on my nerves, it made the show unwatchable.
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I suggest you go back and read the entire post (at least my words). You will then realize that I came to the conclusion that I do not think highly of the successors to Dawson and Combs.
Unless my Klauss-G***** Sarcasm Detector (tm) is on the fritz...
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[quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 09:36 PM\']
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I suggest you go back and read the entire post (at least my words). You will then realize that I came to the conclusion that I do not think highly of the successors to Dawson and Combs.
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Right, and neither do I. I was agreeing with you. :0
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[quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 09:36 PM\'][quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 08:51 PM\'][quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 08:16 PM\']The hosts that came after them, on the other hand...
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You mean like Louie "Is it up 'dere???" Anderson? His voice got so much on my nerves, it made the show unwatchable.
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I suggest you go back and read the entire post (at least my words). You will then realize that I came to the conclusion that I do not think highly of the successors to Dawson and Combs.
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Er... you DO realize that he was agreeing with you, right?
EDIT: Looks as though Aaron beat me by a minute. But I can't resist commenting on this...
Unless my Klauss-G***** Sarcasm Detector (tm) is on the fritz...
Mr. GIBSON's name is not an obscenity, and does not need to be censored.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 07:41 PM\']Mr. GIBSON's name is not an obscenity, and does not need to be censored.
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However, he's gotten pissy on more than one occasion over people mentioning it upon his exodus.
That's Chuck Gibson, by the way. For all of your snarky needs. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 09:55 PM\'][quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 07:41 PM\']Mr. GIBSON's name is not an obscenity, and does not need to be censored.
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However, he's gotten pissy on more than one occasion over people mentioning it upon his exodus.
That's Chuck Gibson, by the way. For all of your snarky needs. :)
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Not people in general, just those who take pride in being narcissistic irritants -- actually, ONE person who takes pride in being a narcissistic irritant. :-) I know he didn't specify, but I never saw him get upset over anyone else mentioning his name.
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Not that this isn't funny, but steering back to the topic of Feud...I have to agree with Tony and Aaron. In my opinion, Richard and Ray were both perfect hosts for the show in completely different ways.
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[quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 09:36 PM\']I suggest you go back and read the entire post (at least my words). You will then realize that I came to the conclusion that I do not think highly of the successors to Dawson and Combs.
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Oh come on. Everybody knows the right way to type the above is "K*****-Gibson". :-)
If you have to censor Chuck's last name, I insist you censor mine as well. What did the guy ever do to you?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 10:17 PM\']Not that this isn't funny, but steering back to the topic of Feud...I have to agree with Tony and Aaron. In my opinion, Richard and Ray were both perfect hosts for the show in completely different ways.
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Agreed... I'm not sure why Paul thinks that liking one automatically means not liking the other. I don't think I'd have enjoyed seeing Ray kiss all of the women, or Richard clowning around -- but each had his own style that IMO was perfect for the show at the time.
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You know what pissed me off about Karn, the other day this lady needed about 50 points on the last question for the 20,000 dollars. Well she gave a good answer. Karn doesn't build it up AT ALL and he just reads it in his monotone voice and suddenly you see a huge 40 pop up. Then he mumbles "oh by the way it was number 1" AFTER the reveal.
That was one thing Dawson and Combs did so well. Build up suspense. They would have been saying, you know this is the number 1 answer. It could be enough.... is it? SURVEY SAYS!
Then other times a family needs like 65 points. And Karn gives them false hope that it might be up there. He's not even kidding around and goes "is it ____ for 65 points?"
Karn needs to go back to hosting school. Where are the good game show hosts these days...
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[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Mar 14 2005, 12:28 AM\']That was one thing Dawson and Combs did so well. Build up suspense. They would have been saying, you know this is the number 1 answer. It could be enough.... is it? SURVEY SAYS!
Then other times a family needs like 65 points. And Karn gives them false hope that it might be up there. He's not even kidding around and goes "is it ____ for 65 points?"
Karn needs to go back to hosting school. Where are the good game show hosts these days...
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Karn is growing on me, but the entire Feud staff needs to be locked in a room and watch a marathon of Feud episodes, Dawson and Combs. I know the show is gaining ratings and is getting a seventh season, but there's still some things that need change. Then again, I can only imagine how that would go:
STAFFER: Hey, Richard Dawson just doubled the points and nothing happened. Did someone hit the mute button or something? Is there even an audience there?!
With that out the way, I will give Karn some sort of credit for how he tries to lighten the mood when a family has obviously lost Fast Money.
(let's say they have about 120 points, and it's the last question)
You need 80 points...we surveyed 100 people. (laughs from audience)
It does at least get a chuckle out of me. :-)
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You need 80 points...we surveyed 100 people. (laughs from audience)
A true testiment to the difference in audience (both live and probably at-home) and their attention spans. Richard and Ray used to get laughs off the fact somebody needed 100+ without having to specify it was impossible.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Mar 14 2005, 12:54 AM\']Karn is growing on me, but the entire Feud staff needs to be locked in a room and watch a marathon of Feud episodes, Dawson and Combs. I know the show is gaining ratings and is getting a seventh season, but there's still some things that need change.
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The titular showrunner now is Gaby Johnston, who actually worked on the Dawson and Combs incarnations of "Feud," so she should know better--she's probably being overruled by her bosses at Fremantle. (At G-T/MGP, she was listed as "Gabrielle Johnston" on the credits, for those wondering--she now uses her nickname.)
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 10:31 PM\'][quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Mar 13 2005, 09:36 PM\']Unless my Klauss-G***** Sarcasm Detector (tm) is on the fritz...[/quote]
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Mike, Mike, Mike...I thought you would have bought out Chuck's stake by now. After all, rumor has it that it was his idea to buy exclusive ad time on Father of the Pride.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 14 2005, 10:55 AM\']The titular showrunner now is Gaby Johnston,[/quote]
It's been Gaby's show since season 4, but a clause in her contract as a Fremantle executive prohibited her from being credited on-screen as the show's Executive Producer until recently.
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 14 2005, 10:55 AM\']who actually worked on the Dawson and Combs incarnations of "Feud," so she should know better--she's probably being overruled by her bosses at Fremantle. (At G-T/MGP, she was listed as "Gabrielle Johnston" on the credits, for those wondering--she now uses her nickname.)
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Her working on the previous incarnations doesn't automatically imbue her with all the knowledge of things like why a 300 point goal works and why going for a "DOUBLE THE POINTS!" audience reaction every single show doesn't work. Don't assume that just because something on the show seems bad to us that it automatically came from above.
The "DOUBLE THE POINTS!" bit could have come from the director, from Richard, from one of the other staffers, from Gaby herself, or just one of those things that just happened the first time out that nobody gives a second thought about until someone realizes just how silly it is.
All that said, Gaby is a very nice person.
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[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Mar 14 2005, 12:28 AM\']You know what pissed me off about Karn, the other day this lady needed about 50 points on the last question for the 20,000 dollars. Well she gave a good answer. Karn doesn't build it up AT ALL and he just reads it in his monotone voice and suddenly you see a huge 40 pop up. Then he mumbles "oh by the way it was number 1" AFTER the reveal.
That was one thing Dawson and Combs did so well. Build up suspense. They would have been saying, you know this is the number 1 answer. It could be enough.... is it? SURVEY SAYS!
Then other times a family needs like 65 points. And Karn gives them false hope that it might be up there. He's not even kidding around and goes "is it ____ for 65 points?"
Karn needs to go back to hosting school. Where are the good game show hosts these days...
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As per ATGS, they are all dead(seriously they are, but some trolling nerds have live ones as dead, anyways). I wonder how Tom Bergeron would fit into hosting Feud.....hmmmm....I wonder if Fremantle read this board.
I am ok with Karn, he has come along alot better than his 2002 debut. But he's no Bob Barker/Pat Sajak/Richard Dawson type host IMHO.
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Did they audition anybody else (assuming Karn did) after Louie?
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I love the Game show hosts week on the Family Feud as that's my all-time favorite!!
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You know what pissed me off about Karn, the other day this lady needed about 50 points on the last question for the 20,000 dollars. Well she gave a good answer. Karn doesn't build it up AT ALL and he just reads it in his monotone voice and suddenly you see a huge 40 pop up. Then he mumbles "oh by the way it was number 1" AFTER the reveal.
That was one thing Dawson and Combs did so well. Build up suspense. They would have been saying, you know this is the number 1 answer. It could be enough.... is it? SURVEY SAYS!
One thing I liked about Louie was the way he would hint to a family that they were about to get 200 points. He would tell them to go up and touch the board. I know Richard cant copy him, but I agree that he needs to build the suspense better too. The best I've seen him do was, during his first season, the family needed (I think) 2 points and their answer was butter. Richard says something like, "you need two points.......You know, I can really go for some butter.." lol. But all in all I think all the host were good in their own ways. In fact Karn kinda reminds me of Ray.
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[quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 12:55 AM\']One thing I liked about Louie was the way he would hint to a family that they were about to get 200 points. He would tell them to go up and touch the board.[/quote]
Um. I humbly yet violently object to calling what he did a "hint". And then it takes the contestant 10 seconds to cross the stage, and then the board operator is asleep . . .
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 06:24 PM\'][quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 12:55 AM\']One thing I liked about Louie was the way he would hint to a family that they were about to get 200 points. He would tell them to go up and touch the board.[/quote]
Um. I humbly yet violently object to calling what he did a "hint". And then it takes the contestant 10 seconds to cross the stage, and then the board operator is asleep . . .
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Yea, whatever its called. I just thought it was cool. Another thing I liked was if he knew they were gonna win he would tell the family to come over to where he and the contestant was. Its just the spontanous thing that I liked.
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[quote name=\'Passepartout\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 10:49 PM\']I love the Game show hosts week on the Family Feud as that's my all-time favorite!!
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Good to know.
By the way, Louie Anderson's "master plan" of having a Fast Money contestant touch the screen when he was SURE! they were about to win the top prize went awry at least once when even though the family member gave the #1 answer, it still left the team a point or two shy of 200. So there they were CERTAIN! they had the $10000 (or maybe it was $20000 by then) and they're left with $990 or so. Sad. Louie did say he felt bad for them because he "was so sure". Well, as long as you felt bad, Louie. Say, Lou, yer makin' $75000 a week, why don't you cough up the dough and give it to 'em anyway since you feel so bad? What's that you say? That's what I thought.
And I prefer bananas.
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[quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 08:28 PM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 06:24 PM\'][quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 12:55 AM\']One thing I liked about Louie was the way he would hint to a family that they were about to get 200 points. He would tell them to go up and touch the board.[/quote]
Um. I humbly yet violently object to calling what he did a "hint". And then it takes the contestant 10 seconds to cross the stage, and then the board operator is asleep . . .
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Yea, whatever its called. I just thought it was cool. Another thing I liked was if he knew they were gonna win he would tell the family to come over to where he and the contestant was. Its just the spontanous thing that I liked.
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On 100 Mexicanos Dijeron (you knew I'd pimp that show somewhere in here...) they usually have the gathering if a win seems imminent (accompanied by "Si se puede" chant, of course). When it comes to teases, Marco has had some good ones...usually stalling the reveal by bringing random stuff up, multiple times.
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Mar 26 2005, 09:43 AM\'][quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 08:28 PM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 06:24 PM\'][quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 12:55 AM\']One thing I liked about Louie was the way he would hint to a family that they were about to get 200 points. He would tell them to go up and touch the board.[/quote]
Um. I humbly yet violently object to calling what he did a "hint". And then it takes the contestant 10 seconds to cross the stage, and then the board operator is asleep . . .
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Yea, whatever its called. I just thought it was cool. Another thing I liked was if he knew they were gonna win he would tell the family to come over to where he and the contestant was. Its just the spontanous thing that I liked.
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On 100 Mexicanos Dijeron (you knew I'd pimp that show somewhere in here...) they usually have the gathering if a win seems imminent (accompanied by "Si se puede" chant, of course). When it comes to teases, Marco has had some good ones...usually stalling the reveal by bringing random stuff up, multiple times.
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Barker does it all the time with some I call (for lack of a better phrase, not stupidity) the three times rule.
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[quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 08:28 PM\']Yea, whatever its called. I just thought it was cool. Another thing I liked was if he knew they were gonna win he would tell the family to come over to where he and the contestant was. Its just the spontanous thing that I liked.[/quote]
Yeesh . . . it was about as "spontanous" as Karn talking about taking first blood every episode.
[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Mar 26 2005, 11:45 AM\']Barker does it all the time with some I call (for lack of a better phrase, not stupidity) the three times rule.
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How about the "On CBS today" rule?