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Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: gsgalaxy82 on March 10, 2005, 03:48:12 PM
Me and a friend have been debating something about Pyramid. On the $25,000/$100,000 Pyramid, if a player won the first Winner's Circle (for $10,000), and then the second (for $25,000), would they win $25,000 total, or would they win $35,000. I had always heard they won just $25,000, forfeiting the first win just about. Thanks in advance.

David
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: whammy5000 on March 10, 2005, 04:08:03 PM
If they win the second winner's circle, regardless of how the first one went, it's $25,000 total.  That's on the $25K & $100K Pyramids.  On Osmond's version, you'd have to win both winner's circles to get the full $25,000.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: PYLdude on March 10, 2005, 04:50:25 PM
[quote name=\'whammy5000\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 04:08 PM\']If they win the second winner's circle, regardless of how the first one went, it's $25,000 total.  That's on the $25K & $100K Pyramids.  On Osmond's version, you'd have to win both winner's circles to get the full $25,000.
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I challenge that, based on things I've heard in other places. Plus, in the second season of Osmond's Pyramid, the second Winner's Circle was for $25,000 more on top of the $10K first win. I'm also fairly sure on The $25K Pyramid that one was worth $10 and the other $25 (ten and twenty-five thousand, that is...imagine this: "From Television City in Hollywood, it's the Twenty-Five Dollar Pyramid?")

Confirmation, please?
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: tvwxman on March 10, 2005, 05:18:21 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 04:50 PM\'][quote name=\'whammy5000\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 04:08 PM\']If they win the second winner's circle, regardless of how the first one went, it's $25,000 total.  That's on the $25K & $100K Pyramids.  On Osmond's version, you'd have to win both winner's circles to get the full $25,000.
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I challenge that, based on things I've heard in other places. Plus, in the second season of Osmond's Pyramid, the second Winner's Circle was for $25,000 more on top of the $10K first win. I'm also fairly sure on The $25K Pyramid that one was worth $10 and the other $25 (ten and twenty-five thousand, that is...imagine this: "From Television City in Hollywood, it's the Twenty-Five Dollar Pyramid?")

Confirmation, please?
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Regarding the Osmond Pyramid, here's confirmation that you're wrong. $25 for 2 wins. Period.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: clemon79 on March 10, 2005, 05:23:47 PM
I want to say that for a period of time on the Clark $25K Pyramid, you could win $35K by running both WC's, but that fairly quickly they changed it so that the second win on the same day was for $25K, and the $10K from a previous win "went away".
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: mystery7 on March 10, 2005, 08:25:14 PM
I always remembered it as $10,000 for the first win and $15,000 for the second win for a total of $25,000. "$25,000" just had a better ring to it.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: TV Favorites on March 10, 2005, 08:53:17 PM
On the Osmond version, it definately was a total of $25,000 for getting up the Pyramid on both Winner's Circle rounds.  On the second win, $15,000 would flash a couple of times before $25,000 would flash on screen.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: That Don Guy on March 10, 2005, 09:24:00 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 05:23 PM\']I want to say that for a period of time on the Clark $25K Pyramid, you could win $35K by running both WC's, but that fairly quickly they changed it so that the second win on the same day was for $25K, and the $10K from a previous win "went away".
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Maybe when they brought it back and started calling it The New $25,000 Pyramid, but I definitely remember seeing the first Clark $25,000 winner, and Dick said that the player had won $25,000 (so whatever money was won in the first WC was lost).

This is also how the Cullen version worked; he mentioned it a few times to make it clear that the total would be $25,000 (in fact, when someone won $10,000 in the first WC and made it back the second time, Bill said that they were playing for another $15,000).

-- Don
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 10, 2005, 10:34:54 PM
[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 10:24 PM\']This is also how the Cullen version worked; he mentioned it a few times to make it clear that the total would be $25,000 (in fact, when someone won $10,000 in the first WC and made it back the second time, Bill said that they were playing for another $15,000).[/quote]
I know I've said this before, but it's just so wonderfully Stewart that I have to say it again.  I have records from the first season of Cullen's version, and one player not only won $25,000 but also a car in the main game.  The value of the car was subtracted from his $25,000 cash winnings.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 11, 2005, 01:40:49 AM
CBS limits at the time had something to do with it as well.  Cullen Pyramid was a CBS O&O show for all but the last year.  WCBS was supposed to have aired "The $128,000 Question" until somebody remembered the limit.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: PYLdude on March 11, 2005, 08:22:05 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 05:18 PM\'][quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 04:50 PM\'][quote name=\'whammy5000\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 04:08 PM\']If they win the second winner's circle, regardless of how the first one went, it's $25,000 total.  That's on the $25K & $100K Pyramids.  On Osmond's version, you'd have to win both winner's circles to get the full $25,000.
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I challenge that, based on things I've heard in other places. Plus, in the second season of Osmond's Pyramid, the second Winner's Circle was for $25,000 more on top of the $10K first win. I'm also fairly sure on The $25K Pyramid that one was worth $10 and the other $25 (ten and twenty-five thousand, that is...imagine this: "From Television City in Hollywood, it's the Twenty-Five Dollar Pyramid?")

Confirmation, please?
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Regarding the Osmond Pyramid, here's confirmation that you're wrong. $25 for 2 wins. Period.
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My mistake. Carry on.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: dmota104 on March 11, 2005, 06:30:14 PM
I know some (if not most or even all) of us would rather forget the John Davidson days of The $100,000 Pyramid.  But I vaguely recall one civilian contestant won the first WC round -- and then the same show's second WC round.  John classified that as a $35,000 total payoff.

Whether this was attributed to Bob Stewart opening up the bank account or another John faux pas, I'll never know.  I was either living in a market that didn't have the Davidson version -- or the market had a station that aired the show at one lousy time slot.  The handful of Davidson shows I've seen were during vacations.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: starcade on March 11, 2005, 07:26:13 PM
They made it much clearer later on in the Osmond Pyramid.  When a contestant won a second WC, the original amount shown would be the $15K they won for the second win -- then the $25K would be shown shortly thereafter.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: ChuckNet on March 11, 2005, 08:15:31 PM
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I vaguely recall one civilian contestant won the first WC round -- and then the same show's second WC round. John classified that as a $35,000 total payoff.

Although you can't exactly trust whatever John Davidson says. :-)

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: ITSBRY on March 11, 2005, 10:16:28 PM
[quote name=\'dmota104\' date=\'Mar 11 2005, 06:30 PM\']I know some (if not most or even all) of us would rather forget the John Davidson days of The $100,000 Pyramid.  But I vaguely recall one civilian contestant won the first WC round -- and then the same show's second WC round.  John classified that as a $35,000 total payoff.

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If that happened it was either:

A- A Davidson screw up
B- Something that happened early in the run that was later changed to the 'classic' rules.

I have several episodes from Davidson Pyramid on tape and in just about every one, he specifically mentions right after his intro that you can win a TOTAL of $25,000 in the winner's circle.

I tend to believe the former is the more likely of the two choices and that they made him explain it so often because of that or perhaps he did it voluntarily to remind himself! :) The guy wasn't horrible at hosting Pyramid, but he did 'forget' things or make small flubs like that quite often.

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: gsgalaxy82 on March 11, 2005, 11:48:44 PM
I'm guessing however on the Osmond version, the player didn't give up their Super Six bonuses if they won the 2 WC's, unlike on the earlier versions, correct?

David
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: zachhoran on March 12, 2005, 07:57:23 AM
[quote name=\'gsgalaxy82\' date=\'Mar 11 2005, 11:48 PM\']I'm guessing however on the Osmond version, the player didn't give up their Super Six bonuses if they won the 2 WC's, unlike on the earlier versions, correct?

David
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They only gave up the maingame bonuses upon a WC win on the ABC 70s run and the Cullen $25K run(when someone won the $25K). The CBS $10K version allowed the $10K winners to keep their maingame winnings, as it would still keep them under the $25K limit at the time.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: GSFan on March 12, 2005, 03:23:48 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 10:34 PM\']I know I've said this before, but it's just so wonderfully Stewart that I have to say it again.  I have records from the first season of Cullen's version, and one player not only won $25,000 but also a car in the main game.  The value of the car was subtracted from his $25,000 cash winnings.
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A question for Matt Ottinger.  As I recall there were three $25,000 winners in the first Cullen season.  The first was Roger Shoop, who won with Anne Meara in the first aired (NYC) episode.  The second was a woman who won with Lucie Arnaz and the third, a man who won with Barbara Feldon.

Who won the car?  The Big 7 wasn't being played at that time.

David
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: zachhoran on March 12, 2005, 07:26:35 PM
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A question for Matt Ottinger.  As I recall there were three $25,000 winners in the first Cullen season.  The first was Roger Shoop, who won with Anne Meara in the first aired (NYC) episode.  The second was a woman who won with Lucie Arnaz and the third, a man who won with Barbara Feldon.

Who won the car?  The Big 7 wasn't being played at that time.


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Wasn't the Big 7 originally played for cash when introduced on the CUllen version($1500 instead of $500 on the daytime version). The econobox was the prize in the last season.
Title: Pyramid Question
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 14, 2005, 12:26:37 PM
[quote name=\'GSFan\' date=\'Mar 12 2005, 04:23 PM\']A question for Matt Ottinger.  As I recall there were three $25,000 winners in the first Cullen season.  The first was Roger Shoop, who won with Anne Meara in the first aired (NYC) episode.  The second was a woman who won with Lucie Arnaz and the third, a man who won with Barbara Feldon.[/quote]
I'm really glad you asked that question, because it got me to find out I don't have what I thought I had!

Looking over the framework of Xanfan's episode list, it now appears that what I have is the FIFTH season overview, which I plan to share with Xanfan, since his list has several holes in it.  My list covers episodes numbered #121 through #150.  I mistakenly assumed it was season one because the numbers all started with "1", but now I'm guessing Bob had a much simpler numbering system, and that these were actually the 121st through the 150th shows taped.  That's thirty shows, and if there were thirty in each of the previous four seasons, then the numbering adds up.

For each episode, I have the guest stars, the full names of the contestants and the prizes each won.   For the record, Cathy Campbell is the name of the only $25,000 winner the entire season (there were eleven $10K winners).  She won with Lynn Redgrave and Tony Randall.  She also won a car, and as I previously mentioned, her listing reads "car absorbed in money".   BTW, if you won $10,000 and a car (or additional money), you kept all prizes in full.

One more thing:  Now that I look at it more closely, Bob's master plan is obvious.  The thirty shows were taped on five different days.  For each taping day, he had three female celebrities and three male celebrities.  Those six stars played a total of six shows, so each star appeared on two shows.   To his credit, no star played more than one tape date, so even though it seemed like Anita Gillette and Anne Meara were in every other episode, they actually played no more than any other celebrity in a given season.  I'm assuming that the tapes got all mixed up before they went out to stations, especially if XanFan's list reflects the NYC airdates.