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It's early Sunday morning here in the suburbs of Seattle, and there's almost zero chance that I'm going to get back to sleep, so I figure I might toss up another question to the esteemed elder statesman of the board here.
After looking through the recap for Game 18 of the Jeopardy tournament, I saw that one of the contestants was on "The $128,000 Question." I have tried for years to find any information about it that goes more in depth than "It was a revival of '$64k', and big winners got to come back to play for $64,000 more." There's almost nothing out there.
If anyone remembers anything about the show, I'd love to hear from you. I presume that the regular games were similar to that of the original show, but have seen nothing about how the returning winners can increase their totals.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 6 2005, 08:45 AM\']If anyone remembers anything about the show, I'd love to hear from you.
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Just like the Hal March era, the questions began at $64 then doubled until you reached $512, increased to $1000 and then doubled to $64000.
Here is where some changes were made. First of all, the outcomes were not "controlled". Also, the consolation prize was $1 if you missed through the $4000 question, a car if you busted on $8000 or $16000 and the consolation prize if you missed at $32000 or $64000 was $16000, so the $32K query was a free question. Depending on what level question being asked, you were allowed to make a mistake on a multi-part isolation booth question and were then asked a make-up question. For the $64K question, no mistakes were allowed.
All $64000 winners (there were four in the 1976-77 season--the only year of the show televised in Cleveland) competed in a season-end tournament. The top scorer in a format which escapes me {forgive me; it has been close to 28 years} won the additional $64K for a total of $128,000. I believe the winner the first season was Don Chu. True Don Chu.
One contestant's name was Susan B. Anthony and her category of expertise was......Susan B. Anthony. I don't recall how she fared.
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Also, IIRC, many of the low-level questions in the game appeared on a television monitor on stage, the questions sent from a building a short distance away in an effort to assure "security", so no one in the building would have the chance to see the material before air time. The home game cover features Mike Darrow as host, who (for those who aren't familiar with the show) was later replaced by Alex Trebek when the show went from NYC to Canada.
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Was it the same "bank vault" used for the questions on Twenty-One? :)
(Obviously not the same box, since it was a CBS show, and 21 was NBC.
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10-time GS contestant Don Benn appeared during the 2nd season w/Trebek, his category being TV trivia...he missed at $32K, and went home w/$16K as a result.
During his 2nd or 3rd ep, there was a factual error w/another contestant, whose category was WWI...the question involved a French pilot who wore a lady's stocking for a helmet, and whatever answer he gave was ruled incorrect. However, the following wk, they discovered that there were a number of French fighter pilots who wore a stocking for a helmet, so they decided to accept his answer as being correct and thus allow him to continue.
And for those who may have forgotten, the guard who handed the big-money questions to Alex was named Michael O'Rourke, but only his hands were ever seen on-camera (prompting a "manicure" joke from Trebek on one ep).
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 6 2005, 09:57 AM\'] I believe the winner the first season was Don Chu. True Don Chu.
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Who went on to greater success as the host of the 1988 revival of "The Gong Show" in China.
All Night. 2 Drinks. Veal.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 6 2005, 09:57 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 6 2005, 08:45 AM\']If anyone remembers anything about the show, I'd love to hear from you.
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Just like the Hal March era, the questions began at $64 then doubled until you reached $512, increased to $1000 and then doubled to $64000.
Here is where some changes were made. First of all, the outcomes were not "controlled". Also, the consolation prize was $1 if you missed through the $4000 question, a car if you busted on $8000 or $16000 and the consolation prize if you missed at $32000 or $64000 was $16000, so the $32K query was a free question. Depending on what level question being asked, you were allowed to make a mistake on a multi-part isolation booth question and were then asked a make-up question. For the $64K question, no mistakes were allowed.
All $64000 winners (there were four in the 1976-77 season--the only year of the show televised in Cleveland) competed in a season-end tournament. The top scorer in a format which escapes me {forgive me; it has been close to 28 years} won the additional $64K for a total of $128,000. I believe the winner the first season was Don Chu. True Don Chu.
One contestant's name was Susan B. Anthony and her category of expertise was......Susan B. Anthony. I don't recall how she fared.
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For the first season, there was a three-week preliminary game, where the four $64,000 winners accumulated points for correct answers to questions in their respective categories. Each player got an equal number of questions asked, and the correct answers for week number one were worth one point, the second week-- two points, and the third week--three points. Then, the two highest scorers came back the fourth and final week of tournament play, and had to be the first to get six correct answers, with an equal chance at doing so.
IIRC, the Susan B. Anthony contestant, by name and by category; tried for, but failed to win on her $64,000 question.
I don't recall how the second season tournament played, but I think only TWO contestants made it to the playoffs.
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I am confident the contestant was Barbara Ann Eddy. I recall that she won the jackpot on $128K Question in the second season. I think she was a five time champion on Jeopardy in the mid 1980's. I don't remember if she won the TOC.
I remember her from "Question" because Alex made mention of her being a Canadian citizen who did not have to pay taxes on her winnings.
David
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[quote name=\'GSFan\' date=\'Mar 7 2005, 10:03 AM\']I am confident the contestant was Barbara Ann Eddy. I recall that she won the jackpot on $128K Question in the second season. I think she was a five time champion on Jeopardy in the mid 1980's. I don't remember if she won the TOC.
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She did win five games of J! and $52K in 1987-88, and as stated in Andy's J! spoiler for Friday's game, will be back for the Ultimate TofC tonight. She didn't make it past the quarter finals the 1988 TofC. Mark Lowenthal won that TofC.
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10-time GS contestant Don Benn appeared during the 2nd season w/Trebek, his category being TV trivia...he missed at $32K, and went home w/$16K as a result.
Don's episodes are the only ones we have in the trade curcuit. They originally aired in late 1977-early 1978.
I love the theme song from this show!
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Mar 6 2005, 10:14 AM\']Also, IIRC, many of the low-level questions in the game appeared on a television monitor on stage, the questions sent from a building a short distance away in an effort to assure "security", so no one in the building would have the chance to see the material before air time.
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The first four were typed out on a Xerox electronic typewriter. The model would take the cassette that held the questions from the "Tree of Knowledge" category board (although they already knew what the category was going to be beforehand) and hand it to Mike. He'd pop it in the slot on the typewriter and hit the button and the question would type away and stop. When the contestant gave their answer, he'd hit the button again and the answer typed.
The $1-4K questions were on the Chyron--oops, Vidifont--from "our broadcast center a half-mile away from our studio"--the studio being the Ed Sullivan Theater and the broadcast center the CBS Broadcast Center on West 57th. Never saw the Trebek season, so I don't know how far away the Chyrons were at the CFTO studios in Toronto.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 7 2005, 05:05 PM\'][quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Mar 6 2005, 10:14 AM\']Also, IIRC, many of the low-level questions in the game appeared on a television monitor on stage, the questions sent from a building a short distance away in an effort to assure "security", so no one in the building would have the chance to see the material before air time.
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The first four were typed out on a Xerox electronic typewriter. The model would take the cassette that held the questions from the "Tree of Knowledge" category board (although they already knew what the category was going to be beforehand) and hand it to Mike. He'd pop it in the slot on the typewriter and hit the button and the question would type away and stop. When the contestant gave their answer, he'd hit the button again and the answer typed.
The $1-4K questions were on the Chyron--oops, Vidifont--from "our broadcast center a half-mile away from our studio"--the studio being the Ed Sullivan Theater and the broadcast center the CBS Broadcast Center on West 57th. Never saw the Trebek season, so I don't know how far away the Chyrons were at the CFTO studios in Toronto.
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Actually, for at least half of season one, the first four questions were handled as described above, but later those four questions were just read from cards given to Mike Darow by the model.
For season two, all questions ranging from $64 to $2,000 were read from cards contained in a packet handed to Alex Trebek by an unseen Michael O'Rourke, and this time, the $4,000 was asked with the contestant in the isolation booth.
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Never saw the Trebek season, so I don't know how far away the Chyrons were at the CFTO studios in Toronto.
I'm pretty sure the Trebek season was taped at Global, as it was carried by Global during the second season.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 7 2005, 05:05 PM\']Never saw the Trebek season, so I don't know how far away the Chyrons were at the CFTO studios in Toronto.
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Half a kilometer.
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I love the theme song from this show!
Yeah, it's pretty cool...basically, a slightly slowed down, disco-fied version of the $64K theme. It also used new recordings of the original "booth entrance" and "think" cues.
One item of note: Although production moved from NY to Toronto for the 2nd season, they kept their original NY contestant address (a PO Box in Grand Central Station, IIRC).
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Although production moved from NY to Toronto for the 2nd season, they kept their original NY contestant address (a PO Box in Grand Central Station, IIRC).
Did they also have a Canadian address for Canadian viewers (replacing the NYC address when it was shown on Canadian television)?
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Mar 10 2005, 11:17 PM\']
I love the theme song from this show!
Yeah, it's pretty cool...basically, a slightly slowed down, disco-fied version of the $64K theme. It also used new recordings of the original "booth entrance" and "think" cues.
One item of note: Although production moved from NY to Toronto for the 2nd season, they kept their original NY contestant address (a PO Box in Grand Central Station, IIRC).
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Of course they did--no Canadian game show that has ever aired in the U.S. has had someone reveal the location of taping or the residence of Canadian contestants.
Way back when "Beat the Clock" started taping in Montreal, they actually bleeped "Montreal" when Gordon MacRae told Jack Narz how great it was to be in Montreal. If I was of a dirtier mind back then, I could've thought of all sorts of words to put in that bleep besides "Montreal."
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Of course they did--no Canadian game show that has ever aired in the U.S. has had someone reveal the location of taping or the residence of Canadian contestants.
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They did have a plug for the hotel the players stayed at on the USA run of Jackpot, Inn on the Park in Toronto.
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They did have a plug for the hotel the players stayed at on the USA run of Jackpot, Inn on the Park in Toronto.
Ditto LMaD '80 (Holiday Inn Harborside, Vancouver) and Pitfall (The Inn @ Denman Place, Vancouver), so it wasn't entirely verboten.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Of course they did--no Canadian game show that has ever aired in the U.S. has had someone reveal the location of taping or the residence of Canadian contestants.
Well, that would explain why there was a fade out after the plug, as opposed to just dissolving straight into the fee plugs that followed (it always occured after the final break).
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Also, "Bumper Stumpers" had a hotel mention at the end [forgot which one, but I think they did mention Toronto].
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Also, "Bumper Stumpers" had a hotel mention at the end [forgot which one, but I think they did mention Toronto].
Yep...it was the Ramada Hotel, Don Valley.
Chuck Donegan (The Too-Much-Time-On-My-Hands "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Mar 11 2005, 09:35 PM\']
Also, "Bumper Stumpers" had a hotel mention at the end [forgot which one, but I think they did mention Toronto].
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USA Chain Reaction mentioned a Canadian car rental company in one of the fee plugs(the ones that weren't culled from $100K Pyramid)
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Mar 11 2005, 09:46 PM\']USA Chain Reaction mentioned a Canadian car rental company in one of the fee plugs(the ones that weren't culled from $100K Pyramid)[/quote]
My turn to play a person with too much time on his hands...
Tilden. They were also mentioned in the fee plugs on Jackpot!
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Being quite the fan of the show (there was a time when I even had audio tapes of both of the finals), I remember quite a bit about it. Here are a few details that have been left out:
In the first season, the first four "typewriter" questions were two-part multiple choice (although a couple of players got a "choose two out of three" question at the $128 level); the machine had a few glitches - one of the eventual $64,000 winners (the Football expert) was called incorrect on a $512 question because the machine gave the wrong answer.
The three "monitor" questions were one-part "normal" questions, except that for the first few contestants to reach $4000, that question had two parts. (Two brothers competed on the show separately; they both chose Opera, and both missed $4000 questions, each going home with $1 plus consolation prizes.)
Once reaching the $4000 "plateau", a player missing the $8000 or $16,000 question won a car (a Buick Skyhawk, I think); a player missing the $32,000 or $64,000 questions won $16,000.
There was one significant change from the old version here; if you missed any one question in an "isolation booth" multiple choice (4 questions at $8000, 5 at $16,000 and $32,000, and 7 at $64,000), you were given a "make-up" question and could still win. (Two of the first season's $64,000 winners - the Wine and Sousa experts - needed it in the last question.) (There was one exception: the first contestant to get a $64,000 question (category: U.S. Presidents) got a 6-part question but no makeup - too bad, too; he got the first five right but didn't know that Eisenhower was the President when Hawaii became a state (if that sounds familiar, it was recently an answer on Jeopardy!).)
(Two contestants were told that if they got the first five parts of their $64,000 question correct, they would be guaranteed $32,000; however, one missed one of the five parts and the other won $64,000.)
The first question ever asked (in the category Michelangelo): was "Michelangelo" the artist's first name or his last name? (Answer: his first name - Michelangelo Buonarroti.)
Nobody missed the $64 question, but somebody did miss at $128, not knowing that Lyndon Johnson was the only President sworn in by a woman (normally, the Chief Justice does it, but LBJ was in Texas when JFK died, and they wanted him sworn in as soon as possible.)
There were, in fact, four $64,000 winners the first (Mike Darrow) season (and I think they won in this order): I can't remember the first winner's name - I think it was something like Robert Lupinsky - whose category was Wines (later clarified as "Great Wines of France and Italy"); Don Chu (I think he was a watch repairman - I do remember he was from San Francisco), whose category was Big Bands; Dr. Jacuqline Hill (the show's answer to Dr. Joyce Brothers, although Hill's degree was in meteorology), with professional football; and June Bacon-Bercey, expert on John Phillip Sousa.
There were also at least four contestants who missed at $64,000; two of them were Susan B. Anthony (a distant niece of the women's rights leader), whose category was Women's Rights (and yes, one of the answers was "Susan B. Anthony"), but who missed both one part of her $64,000 question and the make-up (and she realized what the right answer was the minute she was told her answer was wrong), and former basketball player Jerry Lucas, whose category was The Bible (I think it was more of a test of his memory training system); the only question he missed was at the $64,000 level, but when he was asked to name the chapter and verse of the Golden Rule, he knew the chapter, but took a guess at the verse because, he didn't memorize the verse numbers (there were just too any of them).
Anyway, the end-of-season tournament lasted four weeks. In each of the first three weeks, each of the four contestants got four questions; anybody who got all four right received a fifth question. After three weeks, the two high scores (the Wine expert, and Don Chu) returned for the final; the first to six won. Both got to six at the same time, so they went to "overtime" rounds; I think they both got one right, but then the Wine expert missed his question and Chu was correct on his, so he won the $128,000 (i.e. $64,000 in addition to the $64,000 already won).
(By the way...the "security agent", Michael O'Rourke, was shown once, in a long shot handing Mike one of the $64,000 questions. It could be the same person who was on one of the '50s game shows (Tic Tac Dough, I think); there is a picture of someone with that name in one of the older Game Shows books.)
-- Don (to be continued)
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As I was saying before running afoul of the post size limit:
There were numerous changes in the second season (besides Alex Trebek replacing Mike Darrow as host):
the first six questions were asked to the contestant while standing at a podium (Alex stood at a similar podium about 20 feet away);
the $4000 question was now a 4-part isolation booth question (and you still got only $1 if you missed);
the number of questions at some of the isolation booth levels changed (I think it was now 4, 5, 5, 6, 7);
only the $32,000 and $64,000 questions (maybe the $16,000 as well; I'm not sure) had "makeup" questions if you missed one;
the guarantee prize for reaching the $16,000 level was $8000 and a Buick Electra (and if you stopped at $32,000, you won $24,000 cash and the Electra).
For whatever reason , they allowed a couple to participate as a team (category: Gilbert & Sullivan); however, they missed the $512 question.
Only two players won $64,000; someone who was a World War I expert, and Barbara-Anne Eddy (category: Shakespeare - and I don't think she needed a makeup at the $64,000 level, but she may have at $32,000). The tournament was different; this time, it lasted three weeks. The first two weeks each had two rounds; in each round, each player got four (I think) questions, worth 1 each in the first round, 2 in the second, 4 in the third, and 8 in the fourth. Eddy had a slim lead going into the third day, where all of the questions were worth 16 points, and the first to 128 won (as it stood, they both needed six, but if they got six at the same time, Eddy would win as she would have more points); it wasn't much of a contest, as the WW1 contestant missed a couple and let Eddy get too far ahead.
The last question ever asked on the show: "What is the only Shakespeare play where a son kills his father and a father kills his son?" (I think the answer is Henry VI Part 3.)
One final trivia note: Barbara-Anne Eddy was in the Guinness Book of World Records for a few years after her $128,000 won, as it was considered the largest TV program win in history. However, eventually somebody decided that the New York State Million Dollar Jackpot Draw counted as a TV program, and removed her from the book.
-- Don
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Of course they did--no Canadian game show that has ever aired in the U.S. has had someone reveal the location of taping or the residence of Canadian contestants.
I remember a couple of "Jackpot" episodes where Mike was chatting with the "king of the hill", and they mentioned they lived in Toronto. One even stated he worked for the Canadian Post Office in Mississauga (which is just outside of Toronto).
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One final trivia note: Barbara-Anne Eddy was in the Guinness Book of World Records for a few years after her $128,000 won, as it was considered the largest TV program win in history. However, eventually somebody decided that the New York State Million Dollar Jackpot Draw counted as a TV program, and removed her from the book.
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A few WInk TTD champions passed that mark within the next two or three years, no? What about Terry Nadler's win in the 50s on the original Question?
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Of course they did--no Canadian game show that has ever aired in the U.S. has had someone reveal the location of taping or the residence of Canadian contestants.
I remember a couple of "Jackpot" episodes where Mike was chatting with the "king of the hill", and they mentioned they lived in Toronto. One even stated he worked for the Canadian Post Office in Mississauga (which is just outside of Toronto).
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Those were exceptions to the rule--I'm surprised someone didn't yell "STOP TAPE!" and they redid it--"just say 'Post Office' this time." But no doubt that "Jackpot!" was on a tight time schedule and it was overlooked, but it does seem to me that contestants would be told in the briefings not to say "Canada" or anything Canadian in their interviews, since most of the time you only heard a "from..." if they were American.
And I don't really count plugs because of the assumption that most people (not us) are already lunging for the remote when the host signs off and don't watch the credits.
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I remember a couple of "Jackpot" episodes where Mike was chatting with the "king of the hill", and they mentioned they lived in Toronto. One even stated he worked for the Canadian Post Office in Mississauga (which is just outside of Toronto).
I also recall a Talk About ep where a contestant said he and his partner were from Toronto, but yeah, it was rare...the only time I recall Pitfall divulging its taping location was tongue-in-cheek: there was a contestant named Bob Halifax, and Alex said he "shares his name w/a city up here...surely you've heard of Bob, in the province of Alberta, right?"
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Can someone explain this not mentioning Canadian taping locations? I am completely lost here.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 16 2005, 05:09 PM\']Can someone explain this not mentioning Canadian taping locations? I am completely lost here.
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Back on Page 3 of the thread uncamark suggested that no Canadian game show ever mentioned on the air that they were being taped in Canada, or the hometowns of any of their Canadian conestants.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 16 2005, 07:28 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 16 2005, 05:09 PM\']Can someone explain this not mentioning Canadian taping locations? I am completely lost here.[/quote]
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I thought he was asking WHY they weren't mentioned--I presume out of fear that American audiences wouldn't watch to watch a "foreign" game show.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Mar 16 2005, 08:23 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 16 2005, 07:28 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 16 2005, 05:09 PM\']Can someone explain this not mentioning Canadian taping locations? I am completely lost here.[/quote]
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I thought he was asking WHY they weren't mentioned--I presume out of fear that American audiences wouldn't watch to watch a "foreign" game show.
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Bingo--if they were being aired in the U.S., that is. The fact that everyone on "Definition" said "zed" for "zee" showed that they knew they weren't being imported and didn't care--or why "Jackpot!" didn't have as a riddle:
I'm the funny TV outdoorsman with two colourful names. Who am I?
(Yes, "Red Green" was on PBS here, but that doesn't count.)
Or:
I do it "National"-ly every weeknight at 10--and have I got news for you! Who am I?
(If Peter Mansbridge was doing "The National" back then.)
(You Canadians in this forum can come up with a better Canadian Tire or Tim Hortons riddle than I can.)
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I do it "National"-ly every weeknight at 10--and have I got news for you! Who am I?
(If Peter Mansbridge was doing "The National" back then.)
Though, keeping the time period of the show, Knowlton Nash could've been the right answer.
(You Canadians in this forum can come up with a better Canadian Tire or Tim Hortons riddle than I can.)
Maybe some Americans can help, since Tim Horton's has some stores in the midwest and northeastern US (thanks, in part, to its parent company, Wendy's).
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 17 2005, 10:29 AM\']...or why "Jackpot!" didn't have as a riddle:
I'm the funny TV outdoorsman with two colourful names. Who am I? (Red Green)
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(Had to come up with a five-pin bowling riddle, since I just got back from an overnight trip to Victoria, B.C., where I bowled my first six games of five-pin, averaging an impressive-sounding 178, which is equivalent to 118 in the other bowling games. In five-pin, the pins are valued 2-3-5-3-2 left to right in their V-shaped setup, and a perfect score is 450.)
My name is Esoteric Eric, and yes... I am a bowler. (Now with three variations to my credit; my current tenpin average is 152, and I return to the candlepin game whenever I go home to Massachusetts.)
Oddly enough, I have no bowling buddy; my current league is a doubles league, and my teammate vanished mysteriously after the first week.
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Wait a minute... You're saying there's a version of bowling with 10 pins and big balls? Not that I've ever seen. You guys, always pulling our legs.
It's funny, I used to watch this show all the time, and I remember *zilch* about it. Even after the insane summary by Don. (really, who remembers all that detail!)
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[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Mar 18 2005, 12:04 AM\']Wait a minute... You're saying there's a version of bowling with 10 pins and big balls? Not that I've ever seen. You guys, always pulling our legs.
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Biggest you'll ever see, son. :)
Eric, were these the sort of pins that reset with a string, or do they have automatic pinsetters now up that way? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 18 2005, 12:40 AM\'](W)ere these the sort of pins that reset with a string, or do they have automatic pinsetters now up that way? :)
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The centre I went to in Victoria didn't have the string system. Rather, each lane had two pushbutton resets; one on the ball rack to clear deadwood as necessary after each shot, and the other on the side of the scorer's table to reset for a new frame. (No automatic scorekeeping, either; it was like converting from Celsius to Fahrenheit to figure out the count on a double strike. ((8=D)) )
Esoteric Eric is so old <MG audience> "HOW...OLD...IS HE?" </MGA>, when Chris mentioned automatic pinsetters, EE first thought to himself, "Of COURSE they have automatic pinsetters; you were expecting them to still use pin boys?!?"
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[quote name=\'Esoteric Eric\' date=\'Mar 18 2005, 01:41 PM\']Esoteric Eric is so old <MG audience> "HOW...OLD...IS HE?" </MGA>, when Chris mentioned automatic pinsetters, EE first thought to himself, "Of COURSE they have automatic pinsetters; you were expecting them to still use pin boys?!?"
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I've been to Canada. The thought crossed my mind. ;)
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Maybe some Americans can help, since Tim Horton's has some stores in the midwest and northeastern US (thanks, in part, to its parent company, Wendy's).
Yeah, I spotted one on a drive to Newport, RI last summer...must've opened sometime in the last yr, since on my last visit (Sep 03), said location was a Bess Eaton.
And what's on the same lot as this TH, by less than an amazing coincidence? You guessed it: Wendy's.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")