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For all who ever wanted to know what the Password Plus set looked like it is entirety, take a lot of this rare photo found on EBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...ssPageName=WDVW (http://\"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=201&item=4074007902&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW\")
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Ah yes, another great pic from the Westbrook collection. I thought the set looked smaller on TV.
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I noticed the pic of Rod Roddy on "Hit Man" that he was selling. Very interesting stuff.
And I LOVED that P+ picture, too.
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[quote name=\'Chief-O\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 01:37 PM\']I noticed the pic of Rod Roddy on "Hit Man" that he was selling. Very interesting stuff.
And I LOVED that P+ picture, too.
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Yeah, these are nifty pictures, but they sure as hell aren't $26 bones each nifty.
But I don't begrudge Fred. I only wish I had a virtually limitless way to separate fools from their money. :)
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Chris, I know you worked master control for a while. Back in the late '70's, when I worked in master control, we had these slides which would accompany booth announcer copy for various shows. By the early '80's the slides had been replaced by video promos. In the traffic mgr's office were hundreds of old promo slides. Where they are now is a mystery, but I could probably get some quick cash on Ebay if they were to be sold. You should check your station's archives for free stuff nobody wants.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 02:20 PM\']Chris, I know you worked master control for a while.
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I did? Oddly enough, I have no recollection of those three months. It's like I went to sleep in April and woke up in August. :)
You should check your station's archives for free stuff nobody wants.
You're right, there is prolly a bunch of stuff, but since I am at this moment sitting 918 miles away from said station (damn, Google Maps is cool), the riches contained therein shall have to remain a mystery. :)
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Cool pic. The set didn't look that big to me.
BTW, I did master control work for over 5 years in the 90s. Small world! Also directed a local high school quiz show a couple years ago. That was a lot of fun.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 04:03 PM\']... I only wish I had a virtually limitless way to separate fools from their money. :)
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Have you tried charging Zach by the post?
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 05:56 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 04:03 PM\']... I only wish I had a virtually limitless way to separate fools from their money. :)[/quote]Have you tried charging Zach by the post?[/quote]Line of the month.
About this thread, very nice picture. Under normal circumstances, I can't justify almost $30 for a single photo. On the other hand,32 photos, 9 slides, and advertising material for $31 (http://\"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4072206759\") is a different matter. Scans of most of the items in this auction will be on a website near you soon, and not necessarily mine.
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Speaking of that Hit Man pic, is it me, or does Rod look much slimmer in that pic?
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 04:00 PM\']Scans of most of the items in this auction will be on a website near you soon, and not necessarily mine.
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I'll be particularly interested in seeing the information regarding his work on Wonderama in 1955.
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Wow how many master control / ex master control operators do we have here? I am currently an operator for a local station in Canada. Sadly, our last game show was aired during the early 90s, and has never been seen again. I haven't even seen it in the archives, which we through out a lot of last year sadly.
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Could it be that Sonny Fox and JD Roth are the same person? Was "Big John, Little John" actually Sonny's true story? Have you ever seen Sonny and JD in the same room together?
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Some of those pictures (including the "Password Plus" pic) were shown on GSN's "Game TV" years ago. Fred was a regular guest - usually appearing each Friday - and for the first couple of weeks brought a lot of those photos that they ran through during his visits. After about the third week, they started focusing on just one show that GSN had on their regular schedule during each of those visits. I remember seeing that "Password Plus" picture and being surprised at how big the set was.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Feb 10 2005, 07:05 AM\']I remember seeing that "Password Plus" picture and being surprised at how big the set was.
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I think what makes the set appear as big as it is is the illusion we have when watching the show that the walls with the Password Puzzle and Alphabetics boards on them are perpendicular to the game desk, when in fact they sit more at 45-degree angles. We're expecting it to be smaller, so when it's not, we're surprised.
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Looking at the full-set picture of P+ reminds me even more why I liked it so much better than the set for SP. This one (a) is "warm" and (b) feels like you're in an actual room. The SP set, on the other hand, looked like a desk and a couple of stools plopped down in the middle of a big, empty space, which made it seem very cold.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 10 2005, 12:14 PM\']I think what makes the set appear as big as it is is the illusion we have when watching the show that the walls with the Password Puzzle and Alphabetics boards on them are perpendicular to the game desk, when in fact they sit more at 45-degree angles. We're expecting it to be smaller, so when it's not, we're surprised.
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Did they ever show the Password Puzzle wall in a shot with the rest of the set?
I don't think they did, so I always had the impression it was offstage somewhere, as the Match Game orange light box was. The set is more impressive when you do see it.
Frankly, P+'s set always looked cheap in the way that many of the NBC sets did. I prefer the Password All-Stars set (though not the game). Super Password at least looked a little hipper, though I agree with the empty stage sentiment.
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Looking at the photo, the set was nice, and reminded me a lot of $ale of the Century, with the staggered plus signs. Of course, Bente Christensen working on both could have a lot to do with it. However, the set was too busy, and I think it was the neon borders of the backdrops. Had it been a chase light sequence or maybe if the plus signs lit up themselves, it could've been better. Or maybe it was the red carpet and matching desk covers.
As for SP, it looked too much like a space station. Just too futuristic for 1984.
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Did they ever show the Password Puzzle wall in a shot with the rest of the set?
I don't think they did, so I always had the impression it was offstage somewhere, as the Match Game orange light box was. The set is more impressive when you do see it.
It did have give you that impression, didn't it. During the first two episodes (and maybe the whole first week) the first time they went to the puzzle in that episode, they showed a wider shot of the set, and zoomed into the puzzle board. As far as I know, they never did that shot after that.
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http://www.geocities.com/jay_anton/passwordplus1.html (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/jay_anton/passwordplus1.html\")
I've got one such shot on this page. Don't be surprised if it's over data transfer though...
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Have you tried charging Zach by the post?
That's such a great idea, we'll give you 10%.
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And how about the Scrabble picture? Cool to get a somewhat good look at the giant board (not the game board, the design on one of the cube's other faces) at last.
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That was no illusion; the P+ set really was huge. It occupied nearly the entire width of a 100' x 120' stage.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Feb 10 2005, 03:40 PM\']That was no illusion; the P+ set really was huge. It occupied nearly the entire width of a 100' x 120' stage.
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I didn't mean to suggest the set itself was an illusion...my point to my initial post was that the set was shot in such a way as to appear to be much smaller on TV.
Still a great set, and IMO the best version of Password in nearly every way. The only thing that could have made it more perfect would be an Alphabetic's round of similar difficulty to the one used on Super Password.