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Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: BrandonFG on January 18, 2005, 03:23:08 PM
For some reason, Talk About entered my mind this afternoon, and I remembered how it aired at 1 on our local affil. But then I thought about how some of our stations have aired numerous syndie shows during specific time slots, on several occasions.

Example:

-WTVZ at 12 noon has aired Jackpot, Davidson $100K Pyramid (season 2), MG98, and now has Feud.

-WTKR aired HSq/H2 at 4 pm, and now airs Millionaire...they also aired CS01 and Pyramid at 2:05 am (they must've known the former would suck :-) )

Does anyone have any affiliates that seem to have a favorite slot for game shows, more than anything? Of course, I don't mean the station that's aired Wheel or J! at the same time for the last 20 years. :-)
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: ChuckNet on January 18, 2005, 06:57:49 PM
Here in NY, WOR (Ch. 9, now WWOR) used to air a 2-hr. GS block from 6-8 PM that lasted from 77-81...besides mainstays TJW and TTD, other shows that turned up there included:

- DG
- NG
- Liar's Club
- Hollywood Connection
- The local Bowling for Dollars
- Concentration (Narz, last season)
- Bullseye
- Face the Music

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: aaron sica on January 18, 2005, 07:20:12 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 03:23 PM\']For some reason, Talk About entered my mind this afternoon, and I remembered
Does anyone have any affiliates that seem to have a favorite slot for game shows, more than anything? Of course, I don't mean the station that's aired Wheel or J! at the same time for the last 20 years. :-)
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WHP in Harrisburg has been the home of WOF and J! for more than 20 years, but before (and even for a little after) that, they had game shows...

Cross-Wits aired at 7pm sometime in the late '70s TTD aired at 7pm from 1980-1983, and FF aired at 7:30 from 1981-1984. Jeopardy has aired at 7:30 since 1984, except for one exception to that - the 1985-1986 season, when Kennedy TPiR aired at 7:30.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: zachhoran on January 18, 2005, 07:49:30 PM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 06:57 PM\']Here in NY, WOR (Ch. 9, now WWOR) used to air a 2-hr. GS block from 6-8 PM that lasted from 77-81...besides mainstays TJW and TTD, other shows that turned up there included:

- DG
- NG
- Liar's Club
- Hollywood Connection
- The local Bowling for Dollars
- Concentration (Narz, last season)
- Bullseye
- Face the Music

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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The block expanded to 2.5 hours for part of 1980 when Play the Percentages aired at 5:30PM. PtP also aired at 12:30PM on WOR for part of its run.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: mystery7 on January 18, 2005, 09:59:26 PM
Feud is the first and only game show we've aired in our almost 30 years as a station. We air it as a second-run/first-run hour that we just moved from 4 PM to 9 PM. A little late, but it's the only game show in town at that time.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: aaron sica on January 18, 2005, 10:40:35 PM
[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 09:59 PM\']Feud is the first and only game show we've aired in our almost 30 years as a station. We air it as a second-run/first-run hour that we just moved from 4 PM to 9 PM. A little late, but it's the only game show in town at that time.
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I would assume you're talking about WFMZ? I think they aired Super Pay Cards at one time.......Will have to check my old TV Guides....
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: mystery7 on January 19, 2005, 12:37:59 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 10:40 PM\']I would assume you're talking about WFMZ? I think they aired Super Pay Cards at one time.......Will have to check my old TV Guides....
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I'll have to check around tomorrow. If anything, Feud is the first game we've aired in a LONG time.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: joshg on January 19, 2005, 06:17:33 AM
[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 09:37 PM\']If anything, Feud is the first game we've aired in a LONG time.
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What... 'Matlock' doesn't count as a game? ;-)

Josh
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: PYLdude on January 19, 2005, 09:19:41 AM
WCBS in New York does have a favorite slot for its syndicated game shows, because it's usually the one that gets stuck with the crappy ones or the ones that don't have a chance of lasting the season. They'll usually air those shows at 2:07 AM (like Weakest Link, the Kennedy TPIR, and MG98).

WNBC had a favorite slot as well- the 3 AM slot. Luminaries that aired there were Eric Boardman's Liars Club, TJW90, and TTD90.

I can remember, though, when Jeopardy first started airing. WABC would put it on at 4 PM. It would then be followed by one of the one-season wonder syndicated shows (first Sale Of The Century and then Card Sharks).

Usually now in New York, when new game shows premiere they usually do so in the 3-4 or 4-5 block that WWOR (and now its sister, WNYW) like to use.

Bored yet?
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: zachhoran on January 19, 2005, 09:33:32 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 09:19 AM\']WCBS in New York does have a favorite slot for its syndicated game shows, because it's usually the one that gets stuck with the crappy ones or the ones that don't have a chance of lasting the season. They'll usually air those shows at 2:07 AM (like Weakest Link, the Kennedy TPIR, and MG98).


I can remember, though, when Jeopardy first started airing. WABC would put it on at 4 PM. It would then be followed by one of the one-season wonder syndicated shows (first Sale Of The Century and then Card Sharks).



Bored yet?
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Kennedy TPIR aired on WNBC at 2:30AM, not on WCBS. J! originally aired at 1:30AM on WNBC from 9/10/84-12/28/84. WABC picked it up and put it on at 4PM, right before Lange NTT, upon the cancellation of Edge of Night by ABC
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: PYLdude on January 19, 2005, 09:58:49 AM
I guess then that WABC was one of the last affiliates airing Edge at 4- lot of them dropped it.

I always wondered what first followed J! on WABC. Thanks for clearing that up. Yet another one of those one-season wonders.

NOTE: Though Jeopardy! moved to mornings with the premiere of Oprah, WABC continued the trend with Split Second after CS was dropped.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: zachhoran on January 19, 2005, 10:16:11 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 09:58 AM\']

NOTE: Though Jeopardy! moved to mornings with the premiere of Oprah, WABC continued the trend with Split Second after CS was dropped.
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$100K NTT originally aired at 10:30AM on WABC, moving to 4:30 on 12/31/84.

Oprah originally aired on WABC at 10AM, but on 1/5/87 moved to its current 4PM time slot. Card Sharks at that point moved to 4:30AM on WABC, the J! reruns moved back to 10AM then. WPVi in Philly also had J! reruns and Rafferty CS from 4-5PM through 1/2/87, but J! reruns moved to 11AM and CS was ditched on WPVi entirely when Oprah moved from 10AM to 4PM.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: 14gameshows on January 19, 2005, 02:18:59 PM
Well here in Roanoke, WDBJ 7 (our CBS affiliate), the 4 pm hour has been one of their favorites for the past several years.  First it started out in 1998, when Hollywood Squares premiered, it was paired with Home Improvement and several times throughout the year, it (HSq) would swap time slots within that hour.  Then in '99 Feud came back on the air however it was on WFXR (FOX) here BUT Louie's second season was picked up by WDBJ, and HSq was bumped to weekend airings only for a short time, then it came back to be with Feud for a few years until our ABC affilate picked it up on Whoopi's last season with the show.  With that in mind, a 30 minute slot opened up and Feud was all alone until Millionaire premiered at 4:30 a few years ago. Then Becker decided to make a house call and bumped Feud to a full hour at the 10am slot before PRICE, but Becker wasn't liked in our area so he was gone and Feud came back as it is currently with Millionaire as the lead-in to our 5pm newscast.  I will also throw in that the 4pm slot is a very crucial time period in our market as two of the three BIG affilates, have their newscasts starting at 5pm.  Take a look at what we have to offer...

TIME            (WDBJ7/CBS)          (NewsChannel 10/NBC)           (WSET13/ABC)
4pm             Family Feud              Dr. Phil                                  Montel
4:30pm        Millionaire                  
5pm             News 7 at 5              NewsChannel 10 at 5               Oprah
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: aaron sica on January 20, 2005, 10:34:41 AM
[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 12:37 AM\']I'll have to check around tomorrow. If anything, Feud is the first game we've aired in a LONG time.
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It very well might be......I will have to check on this, too, but I am pretty sure 69 aired the 1987 "Lingo" or "Yahtzee" or one of those...

I couldn't find "Super Pay Cards", but as per a September 1981 TVG, 69 had "Cross-Wits" at 10:30 am *and* 10:30pm weekdays, and $50,000 Pyramid at 11pm.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: ChuckNet on January 20, 2005, 10:30:25 PM
In Hartford/New Haven, WTNH (Ch. 8) used to have a 90-min. GS block from 4-5:30 during the 85-86 season, which consisted of $otC, J!, and Headling Chasers (in that order).

Almost 10 yrs later, in 94-95, they (briefly) moved J! to 4 PM so they could air ET at 7 PM (WFSB, which had carried the latter since day 1, briefly dropped it for some other show...tempted to say either Extra or Access Hollywood [w/the multi-talented Pat O'Brien, LOL], but not positive).

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: tvwxman on January 21, 2005, 08:15:51 AM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 10:30 PM\']In Hartford/New Haven, WTNH (Ch. 8) used to have a 90-min. GS block from 4-5:30 during the 85-86 season, which consisted of $otC, J!, and Headling Chasers (in that order).

Almost 10 yrs later, in 94-95, they (briefly) moved J! to 4 PM so they could air ET at 7 PM (WFSB, which had carried the latter since day 1, briefly dropped it for some other show...tempted to say either Extra or Access Hollywood [w/the multi-talented Pat O'Brien, LOL], but not positive).

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Good lord, Chuck knows more about the game show history of TNH than I do, and I friggin work there!

Show me up, will ya???? :)
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: zachhoran on January 21, 2005, 08:51:57 AM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 10:30 PM\']
Almost 10 yrs later, in 94-95, they (briefly) moved J! to 4 PM so they could air ET at 7 PM (WFSB, which had carried the latter since day 1, briefly dropped it for some other show...tempted to say either Extra or Access Hollywood [w/the multi-talented Pat O'Brien, LOL], but not positive).

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WFSB wouldn't have dropped ET for Access Hollywood in 1994-95, and that's simply because AH didn't debut until Fall 1996. Extra! debuted in Fall 1994, however.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: tyshaun1 on January 21, 2005, 10:00:31 AM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 08:51 AM\']WFSB wouldn't have dropped ET for Access Hollywood in 1994-95, and that's simply because AH didn't debut until Fall 1996. Extra! debuted in Fall 1994, however.
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And this, my friends, is another example of (say it with me)........

"POSTING JUST TO POST!"

Tyshaun
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: WhammyPower on January 21, 2005, 10:10:33 AM
WDJT used to have 3 hours of GS programming... 9 to 11 (Includes PiR @ 10, since they're CBS), and 4-5.  However, since Pyramid is cancelled, they dropped the 9-10 slot in favor of "The Larry Edler Show."  But, they still have Feud at 4, Mill at 4:30, and double-runs of both on their sister station, WMLW, at 8:30 and 8:00 AM, respectively.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: BrandonFG on January 21, 2005, 03:25:25 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 08:51 AM\'][quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 10:30 PM\']
Almost 10 yrs later, in 94-95, they (briefly) moved J! to 4 PM so they could air ET at 7 PM (WFSB, which had carried the latter since day 1, briefly dropped it for some other show...tempted to say either Extra or Access Hollywood [w/the multi-talented Pat O'Brien, LOL], but not positive).

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WFSB wouldn't have dropped ET for Access Hollywood in 1994-95, and that's simply because AH didn't debut until Fall 1996. Extra! debuted in Fall 1994, however.
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Which is why he said EITHER Extra or Access Hollywood. Cut the man some slack.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: ChuckNet on January 22, 2005, 01:17:11 AM
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Good lord, Chuck knows more about the game show history of TNH than I do, and I friggin work there!

Show me up, will ya???? :)

LOL...well, I've blanketed the H-NH market all my life, compared to a mere 3 yrs for you, my meteorologist friend. :-)

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: TrplPlayRD on January 22, 2005, 04:29:09 PM
Here in Seattle, KOMO (ABC) had used the 4pm-5pm hour for a lot of game shows.

Catch Phrase, Headline Chasers, $1MCOAL, $ale of the Century, The Challengers, Dating/Newlywed Hour, Pyramid, and syndie WWTBAM.  

Those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head but I'm sure there was some others.

KING (NBC) used the 7:30pm slot for Tic Tac Dough (Martindale/Caldwell) and the most recent run of Hollywood Squares.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: BrandonFG on January 22, 2005, 10:31:22 PM
I hate to add to a post I initiated lol, but the "unexpected cancellations" thread reminded me of another one.

WTKR also used the 4 pm slot for TPiR94, followed by Dawson Feud. Both were gone by January, and WTKR replaced Feud with a 4:30 newscast. I think some newsmagazine replaced TPiR.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: Thad Dixon on January 23, 2005, 03:42:36 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 22 2005, 10:31 PM\']I hate to add to a post I initiated lol, but the "unexpected cancellations" thread reminded me of another one.

WTKR also used the 4 pm slot for TPiR94, followed by Dawson Feud. Both were gone by January, and WTKR replaced Feud with a 4:30 newscast. I think some newsmagazine replaced TPiR.
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Yes, it was "A Current Affair" that took the time slot of Doug's TPiR.  Also, the Feud wasn't gone by January, at least not completely yet -- when the aforementioned 4:30 newscast tanked, WTKR put Feud back in that slot and it stayed there 'til it really was gone for good the following season.  I pointed this out towards the end of our Usenet days and you must've forgotten since then.

And speaking of Feud, here's another example (and I'm surprised you haven't mentioned this one yet, Brandon):  As of Jan. 10 of this year, the current version has moved to 11am on WTVZ (and I think you know what it's competing with on WTKR as a result).  The show has already aired in that slot on that station two other times prior to this:  from about halfway through Karn's first season 'til a couple of weeks before the start of the next one, and again from Jan. until Sept. of last year when they were airing Seacrest's talk show in the 5pm slot.
Title: Syndie timeslots
Post by: BrandonFG on January 23, 2005, 06:29:01 PM
[quote name=\'Thad Dixon\' date=\'Jan 23 2005, 03:42 PM\']Yes, it was "A Current Affair" that took the time slot of Doug's TPiR.  Also, the Feud wasn't gone by January, at least not completely yet -- when the aforementioned 4:30 newscast tanked, WTKR put Feud back in that slot and it stayed there 'til it really was gone for good the following season.  I pointed this out towards the end of our Usenet days and you must've forgotten since then.
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I've forgotten a lot since the Usenet days. ;-)

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And speaking of Feud, here's another example (and I'm surprised you haven't mentioned this one yet, Brandon):  As of Jan. 10 of this year, the current version has moved to 11am on WTVZ (and I think you know what it's competing with on WTKR as a result). 
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I never even realized the change, but I'd love to know what keeps making WTVZ use the 11 am slot. Perhaps the show is getting decent ratings at that slot, despite its competition.