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Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: opimus on June 16, 2003, 09:45:43 AM
Bible baffle ran in Chicago on ch 38  in the late '70's and early '80's . Was it ever seen out of Chicago?
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: zachhoran on June 16, 2003, 09:55:56 AM
I think CBN aired a biblical themed game show with this title way back in early 80s. If it is indeed the same show you are talking about, then it aired nationally. It was one of the very first if not THE first original game show made for cable TV.


Welcome to the new digs, by the way.
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: opimus on June 16, 2003, 10:11:31 AM
BB was produced localy all the prizes were from local Chicago merchants.
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: Matt Ottinger on June 16, 2003, 10:12:03 AM
I vividly remember \"Bible Baffle\" airing nationally in the early days of CBN.  I watched it in Tennessee, which probably means that I saw it in 1981 or 1982.  I'll take your word for it that it originated in Chicago.  My memory is of the poorly constructed podiums that shook whenever a player buzzed in and -- best of all -- the fact that the buzzers were not lockout devices.  They were three independent buzzers with lights, and if the host couldn't tell which player buzzed in first, he'd just declare a tie and go on to the next question.

As for your prize, I'm really not sure I want to reward the fact that the first discussion in our new home was \"Bible Baffle\".
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: Aaron Lloyd on June 16, 2003, 10:30:25 AM
If you run a Google search for \"bible baffle\" and CBN, you only get one hit, and even that one describes BB as a local Chicago show.  There's no reference anywhere on the internet to BB airing on CBN.  Still, I saw it too.

There's alsoa current board game with that title.  I wonder if any of the original producers had anything to do with it.  And if so, shouldn't it be on Matt's home game page?
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: rugrats1 on June 16, 2003, 08:36:59 PM
In the early-1980s, I recall seeing \"Bible Baffle\" in the Tampa Bay area on WCLF ch.22, a Christian-based TV station. Apparently, they picked it up from CBN, as they were airing alot of CBN's religious programs at the time.

The station was produced at another religious TV station -- WCFC ch.38 in Chicago, now Pax station WCPX.

As for the format, I don't remember much, but it's basically Bible Q&A, with religious-based items for prizes.
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: trp0930 on June 17, 2003, 01:35:28 AM
I'm one of the few who do remember Bible Baffle in the fall of '82....It had quite a catchy theme (it still plays in my head often)...but when it was on CBN it was billed as \"the New Bible Baffle.\" Seeing I was 8, that's all I can remember from that show.
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: uncamark on June 17, 2003, 06:57:59 PM
The home boy has to jump in here:

\"Bible Baffle\" began its life on WCFC in Chicago as \"Bible Scrabble\" sometime in 1977.  The original format had two three-person teams competing to unscramble Bible verses and then go on to answer Bible trivia questions.  The set was ultra-low budget (at that time, they were using the old WBKB-TV studios at the top of the Civic Opera House building in downtown Chicago), the audience was canned and the host was the same guy who did the revamp that got the national airing, Ray MacKillop.  At some point early in the run either they heard from the Scrabble people or discovered that they were using a trademarked name and changed the title to \"Bible Baffle.\"  (Obviously, H-Q wasn't interested in challenging that one.)

The next year, the format was revamped to four contestants, two of each playing a round of Bible trivia to go on to the final round (and playing a scrambled verse as a bonus).  The winner of the final round got to attempt to unscramble a verse for a trip to Biblical Gardens at Wisconsin Dells (ooh, aah).  This was the version that was dubbed \"The New Bible Baffle\"--and the title stayed with it for the rest of its run, including the national exposure on CBN (and probably some other religious network, as well).  The station moved its facilities to the former Catholic Television Network facilities across the street somewhere in the middle of the run.  It went off sometime in 1982.

One night, I was scanning the dial and hit WCFC during a fund-raiser where McKillop was more or less defending the idea of doing a game show on a religious station--even though they had no time for \"altar calls\" on the show(thank God), McKillop claimed that they had received letters from game show fans who said they were \"saved\" watching the show.  OK.

BTW, WCFC has lived on, despite the sale to Pax--they moved to a custom-built broadcast facility in the West Loop in the mid 90s and remains active today as the cable network Total Living Network (TLN), which is now seen nationally.  (Some TLN programming continues to be seen on WCPX in the mornings.)  They just haven't done a game show since then.
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: dheine1971 on September 10, 2003, 03:41:43 PM
Besides \"Bible Baffle\"/\"The New Bible Baffle\" (which I remember on former religious turned PAX station WCFC 38 in Chicago). Do you remember these other religious game shows?:

\"The Good Book Challenge\" (aired in the 1990's on some Long Island, New York independent TV station)

And 3 religous game shows aimed at kids:

\"Bible Bowl\" (1978-early 1980's)

\"Joy Junction\" (1980's - reruns air Saturday mornings on religious cable channel TBN)

\"Kids on the Move\" (1998 - Remember the Biblical times news magazine spoof \"Zion 7 Report\" in the middle of each episode?)
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: rugrats1 on September 10, 2003, 07:19:49 PM
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Besides \"Bible Baffle\"/\"The New Bible Baffle\" ... Do you remember these other religious game shows?:

\"Joy Junction\" (1980's - reruns air Saturday mornings on religious cable channel TBN)

We have a thread regarding JJ, which was more like a religious \"Bozo\" show rather than a game show:

http://tinyurl.com/mxmg (http://\"http://tinyurl.com/mxmg\")
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: Justin30519 on September 10, 2003, 09:04:01 PM
[quote name=\'dheine1971\' date=\'Sep 10 2003, 02:41 PM\']And 3 religous game shows aimed at kids:

\"Bible Bowl\" (1978-early 1980's)
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This is the first I've heard of this program in years. I have vague memories of it. All I remember is:
- The title of the show was Bible Bowl
- It was the boys against the girls
- The boys were represented by a blue head (??), and the girls were represented by a red head (??)
- The winners got to eat cake
- The theme song was something like \"It's the Bible Bowl. It's the Bible Bowl.\" (May be wrong on this.)

Keep in mind I was three years old when this premiered. No wonder my memories are foggy. Does anyone know what network this aired on? Any information on how it was played: scoring system or whatever? What was the host's name? I have tried searching for bible bowl on the Internet before and have had no luck answering these questions that I have wondered about for a long time. (3,558 matches just returned on Altavista - all of them talking about recently competitions for local churches.) I'd appreciate any information. It would really be nice if someone had an episode on tape. :)

Justin (going back into lurk mode)
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: brianhenke on September 11, 2003, 01:43:48 AM
Trinity Broadcasting has had two game shows:

    The One Way Game (later the Family One Way Game) in the 80s.
 
    VIrtual Memory, hosted by Jamie Alexander and co-starring the annoying Mega Bite Mike, 2000-2002 (haven't seen it on the TBN schedule in a while).

    Plus, there was Genesis hosted by Jim MacKrell that was on Pax only once three years ago.

    Brian

    100 plus 100 equals 600?

    We want some more pro wrestling (STILL) and NASCAR questions!
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Post by: zachhoran on September 11, 2003, 08:15:50 AM
And that's why Steve B. stopped posting about Virtual Memory every week......
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: dheine1971 on September 11, 2003, 03:13:43 PM
I forgot to mention: Coach Jack Gray hosted \"Bible Bowl\", Sherriff Don McAlister hosted \"Joy Junction\".

\"Genesis\" on PAX was hosted by Jim McKrell (\"Celebrity Sweepstakes\") but was canned after its sneak preview episode.
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: dheine1971 on September 11, 2003, 03:18:27 PM
Was the \"Bible Bowl\" theme sung to the tune of a Disneyland/Disney World ride attraction song called \"It's a Small World After All\"?
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: dheine1971 on September 13, 2003, 08:45:13 AM
Another thing about \"Bible Baffle\": \"Bible Baffle\" had no connection to a local Baltimore kids game show aired in the 1980's called \"Kids Baffle\".
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: JMFabiano on November 14, 2004, 12:43:13 AM
I just saw an episode of Virtual Memory on our TBN station...and I'm a little scared now.  It was like, "Praise the Lord and pass the...uppers?????"  

[quote name=\'brianhenke\' date=\'Sep 11 2003, 12:43 AM\']Trinity Broadcasting has had two game shows:

    The One Way Game (later the Family One Way Game) in the 80s.
 
    VIrtual Memory, hosted by Jamie Alexander and co-starring the annoying Mega Bite Mike, 2000-2002 (haven't seen it on the TBN schedule in a while).

    Plus, there was Genesis hosted by Jim MacKrell that was on Pax only once three years ago.

    Brian

    100 plus 100 equals 600?

    We want some more pro wrestling (STILL) and NASCAR questions!
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Post by: tommycharles on November 14, 2004, 01:25:36 AM
Was Virtual Memory the one with a cross-wits esque part of the game? If so, then I totally agree....way too peppy.
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: uncamark on November 15, 2004, 04:49:59 PM
[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Nov 14 2004, 12:43 AM\']I just saw an episode of Virtual Memory on our TBN station...and I'm a little scared now.  It was like, "Praise the Lord and pass the...uppers?????" 

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In the recent upgrade of my digital cable, Comcast now has the satellite feed of TBN included, along with a couple of other Jesus channels.  I'll have to keep my eyes open if they start running it again.

Another part of the upgrade is GoodLife TV--a few weeks ago, I saw "Let's Go Back" for the first time.  Good Lord, what a dog that show was.
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: SRIV94 on November 15, 2004, 04:58:55 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Nov 15 2004, 03:49 PM\']Another part of the upgrade is GoodLife TV--a few weeks ago, I saw "Let's Go Back" for the first time.  Good Lord, what a dog that show was.
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I can't speak for that, but being a sucker for cheesy variety shows I was a little dismayed that GoodLife dispensed with the variety series they were showing in favor of sitcom reruns (not that the variety series were great, mind you, but some moments were fun to see--like Gregory and Maurice Hines in the singing phase of their careers warbling with da lovely Lennon Sisters).

Ah, memories. . .   :)

Doug -- and the countdown to 800 continues
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: ChuckNet on November 15, 2004, 08:09:23 PM
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Another part of the upgrade is GoodLife TV--a few weeks ago, I saw "Let's Go Back" for the first time. Good Lord, what a dog that show was.

What, the $500 grand prize wasn't good enough for you? :-) But seriously, did anyone else think Scott Sternberg looked like Bill Maher, w/longer hair?

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Bible Baffle
Post by: uncamark on November 17, 2004, 06:55:44 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Nov 15 2004, 04:58 PM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Nov 15 2004, 03:49 PM\']Another part of the upgrade is GoodLife TV--a few weeks ago, I saw "Let's Go Back" for the first time.  Good Lord, what a dog that show was.
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I can't speak for that, but being a sucker for cheesy variety shows I was a little dismayed that GoodLife dispensed with the variety series they were showing in favor of sitcom reruns (not that the variety series were great, mind you, but some moments were fun to see--like Gregory and Maurice Hines in the singing phase of their careers warbling with da lovely Lennon Sisters).

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Not to mention "China Beach" and "I'll Fly Away"--not that they aren't good shows (and Dana Delany--rowr), but they aren't exactly oldies but goodies--guess Warners made 'em an offer they couldn't refuse.

I will say that on Friday nights, you can catch G-man Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. in his Ford catching the commies for J. Edgar Hoover on [Hank Sims] "The FBI--A Quinn Martin Production," [HS] which is a show that has not exactly been in constant rotation since the end of its long network run.

ObGameShow:  Charley Weaver used to make a lot of Efrem Zimbalist jokes on "Squares" when given a question on law and order.