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In reading a post in Chris Dickson's LiveJournal, he mentioned something that we have overlooked here. Something I decided to acknowledge.
Early October 1994 marked the beginning of an era. alt.tv.game-shows *AND* Chris Lambert's Game Show Page opened for business.
Chri$ L!'s site is the genesis for every single other gameshow webpage online and has remained a wonderful repository. I'm sure many of us remember using Mosaic (or Lynx) to visit his site complete with "The Fabulous 60 page Price is Right FAQ" and the Joker Jackpot.
And alt.tv.game-shows...despite what you want to say about the sorry state it is in now, without it, we wouldn't be here today. I'm sure there would be some sort of gameshow fandom group but it wouldn't be this collection of souls.
So, happy 10th anniversary to Chri$ and the other "old guys" who were around all those years ago...
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Nov 19 2004, 09:53 PM\']In reading a post in Chris Dickson's LiveJournal, he mentioned something that we have overlooked here. Something I decided to acknowledge.
Early October 1994 marked the beginning of an era. alt.tv.game-shows *AND* Chris Lambert's Game Show Page opened for business.
Chri$ L!'s site is the genesis for every single other gameshow webpage online and has remained a wonderful repository. I'm sure many of us remember using Mosaic (or Lynx) to visit his site complete with "The Fabulous 60 page Price is Right FAQ" and the Joker Jackpot.
And alt.tv.game-shows...despite what you want to say about the sorry state it is in now, without it, we wouldn't be here today. I'm sure there would be some sort of gameshow fandom group but it wouldn't be this collection of souls.
So, happy 10th anniversary to Chri$ and the other "old guys" who were around all those years ago...
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Here, here.
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Don't forget that we're also coming up on the 10th anniversary of a certain cable network...
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Nov 19 2004, 11:53 PM\']
Early October 1994 marked the beginning of an era. alt.tv.game-shows *AND* Chris Lambert's Game Show Page opened for business.
So, happy 10th anniversary to Chri$ and the other "old guys" who were around all those years ago...
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Chris's site did indeed open in Fall of 1994, but the first posts to ATGS were 11 years ago this month, in November 1993.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Nov 20 2004, 07:43 AM\'][quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Nov 19 2004, 11:53 PM\']
Early October 1994 marked the beginning of an era. alt.tv.game-shows *AND* Chris Lambert's Game Show Page opened for business.
So, happy 10th anniversary to Chri$ and the other "old guys" who were around all those years ago...
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Chris's site did indeed open in Fall of 1994, but the first posts to ATGS were 11 years ago this month, in November 1993.
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And Zach was an annoying know-it-all then, too.
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1994 was the year I remember that terms like 'email,' 'america online,' 'visit our website at..' began to take hold. I barley new what any of them meant.
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Old guys?!? I may not have been around since the infancy of atgs, but I've certainly been around...a long time, and I don't think I'm that old! :p
Funny how some things never change, eh? Well, here's hoping to another ten years of joy, great game show talk, and maybe some more meetups....and maybe even a poker night or two. ;-D I'd be glad to take a piece of the Joker's Jackpot!
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Thanks, Jay. I appreciated that. Glad somebody still remembers me ;)
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I didn't get internet access until the latter part of the '90's and ChrisL!'s website was the first one I ever saw concerning gameshows, and I remember he had some links on the side of the page, and one of those was a link to the alt-tv-game-shows discussion group. I remember thinking, "What the heck is that?" clicked on the link and voila! If it weren't for ChrisL!, I might not be here today. (I mean on the forum).
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I found the news group through one of those old internet yellow page books..thumbed through newsgroups beginning with alt.tv and was stunned to see that there was a game shows newsgroup! This was in spring of 1995, and I remember the first thread that I read was about "The New Price is Right" once I found an online gopher site that you could read groups at.
I also remember finding Chri$ L!'s page, and being amazed at all the TPiR stuff in it. I also felt honored to have him at my first GSC in '97.
Funny how I used to think a.t.g-s was great because it was the cleanest newsgroup I knew - no trolls, hardly any arguments.....Truly a great place. But here at Invision has, for the most part, duplicated the experience for me...
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I found out about atgs through GSN. When Chris and the guys appeared on "Club AM" in August 1996 I was watching. They mentioned the atgs newsgroup, so when I got to work the next day I did a search for it. Unfortunatly, because of the firewall at work I couldn't post to it until sometime in 1997, so I might have missed the some of the early "glory days", but I'm glad I joined it when I did.
So for me, I guess just past the 8th anniversary. Here's to 8 (and hopefully a lot more) more years!!
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This December would be 6 years for me.
Geez, has it been that long?
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 02:09 PM\']I found the news group through one of those old internet yellow page books..thumbed through newsgroups beginning with alt.tv and was stunned to see that there was a game shows newsgroup!
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Talk about Deja vu! Holy crap, I can't believe I forgot about those books!
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[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 03:25 PM\'][quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 02:09 PM\']I found the news group through one of those old internet yellow page books..thumbed through newsgroups beginning with alt.tv and was stunned to see that there was a game shows newsgroup!
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Talk about Deja vu! Holy crap, I can't believe I forgot about those books!
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I wonder if they still make them? In any case, either the books have gotten bigger or the print's gotten smaller...Since internet content grows at an exponential rate...
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 01:59 PM\']I wonder if they still make them?
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The craze with printing Internet Yellow Page books ended about the same time that their publishers finally figured out that any given volume was obsolete approximately thirteen seconds after it hit store shelves.
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You sure it's not quicker than that? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 05:34 PM\'][quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 01:59 PM\']I wonder if they still make them?
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The craze with printing Internet Yellow Page books ended about the same time that their publishers finally figured out that any given volume was obsolete approximately thirteen seconds after it hit store shelves.
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And the fact that we can now look anything up on the internet for free. So is it strange that the internet made a book about the internet obsolete?
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[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 04:16 PM\']And the fact that we can now look anything up on the internet for free. So is it strange that the internet made a book about the internet obsolete?
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Well, it was a good idea once. One of the very first installments came out JUST when the Web was emerging, so most of the listings were mailing lists, Telnet listings, and Gopher sites, and this was before Yahoo and Google so the few Web listings that existed. So having a boadload of Things To Do in print form was useful to someone who had just gotten their Netcom account and didn't know what to do with it.
Today, though, I agree, the quality of online search engines makes such a beast essentially worthless.
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Look, I'm digging out my 300baud external Zoom modem and logging on to the BBS now. I'm glad I was only in middle school!
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[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 06:38 PM\']Look, I'm digging out my 300baud external Zoom modem and logging on to the BBS now. I'm glad I was only in middle school!
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From the definition of "baud," as given by original version of The Macintosh Bible: "If you can stand to watch text come on the screen at 300 baud, you either have no central nervous system or you're the Buddha."
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And I thought 56K was slow. Amazing how far we've come.
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[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 09:55 PM\']And I thought 56K was slow. Amazing how far we've come.
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Amazing how spoiled we've become, too.
And that's not a potshot at you, that's just an observation in general (including myself in that!). When I started logging onto BBSes in 1990, it *was* at 300 baud. I got used to it, and it didn't seem too slow at all. That was on a Commodore 64. I upgraded to an IBM compatible the next summer and got a 2400 baud modem, and was BLOWN AWAY at the speed of it. Same thing happened three years later, when I got a 14.4 modem. That was the modem that first took me onto the net.
I'd wind up connecting as high as 50.6 with a 56k modem, and after being in the workplace and at college with high-speed connections, 56k seemed "too slow". Now, living someplace where it's available, I'm on cable....
ObGameShow: Cable connections make it possible to download BigJon's games in less than 5 minutes. :)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 11:24 PM\']When I started logging onto BBSes in 1990, it *was* at 300 baud. I got used to it, and it didn't seem too slow at all. That was on a Commodore 64. I upgraded to an IBM compatible the next summer and got a 2400 baud modem, and was BLOWN AWAY at the speed of it.
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You and I must have had a previous life somewhere. I too was on that lightening fast 300 baud modem and upgraded to 2400 (saved up all summer for that monkey). The BBSes were not slow...there wasn't crap to them! No high resolution graphics, no streaming video, nothin. We logged on to a friggin DOS text page. I can still remember logging on to AOL (when I had a 4 character screename) at 2400 baud. It took literally 5 minutes until the mail screen would load up.
So, yeah, Happy Anniversary to the veterans.
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Ah, 300 baud...the rate at which a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100 would send my copy back to the office, the dedicated servant of reporters on the go...I still remember covering football games and having it take longer to send all the copy back to the office than it took to play the game, or at least it seemed that way. You could, at least, have a pretty good dinner while the stories were being sent...
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 05:53 AM\']Ah, 300 baud...the rate at which a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100 would send my copy back to the office, the dedicated servant of reporters on the go...
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You will be pleased to know that they're still used, too...at least as of a few years ago. I was covering a San Jose Sharks hockey game, and one of the guys from the local paper a couple seats down from me on press row was typing into one....