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Watching Balderdash this week, it is fun watching Charo's return to Game Show Land again as a celebrity -- despite Charo's "maracas" nowadays being young enough to be her twin granddaughters!
Besides Charo (koochie koochie), what other game show celebs would fit the following qualifications to become a true "Game Show Celebrity Veteran":
• Must have appeared in AT LEAST 5 different game shows as a celebrity -- no incarnations, please.
• Must have been seen on a game show as a celeb in AT LEAST 3 different decades -- i.e. 50's, 60's, 70's, etc... (this is the stickler).
Discuss.
Tim K.
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I do believe Betty White fits that bill. She appeared on a number of game shows.
Here are just a few:
Pyramid(70's-80's)
Password(all different versions)
Match Game(70's-80's, 90's)
Body Language
Blackout
I'm sure there are others as well. BTW, would Betty's appearances on Price is Right count for this? I know she's on it regardless, but I was just wondering.
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Nipsey Russell.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 09:32 PM\']Watching Balderdash this week, it is fun watching Charo's return to Game Show Land again as a celebrity -- despite Charo's "maracas" nowadays being young enough to be her twin granddaughters!
Besides Charo (koochie koochie), what other game show celebs would fit the following qualifications to become a true "Game Show Celebrity Veteran":
• Must have appeared in AT LEAST 5 different game shows as a celebrity -- no incarnations, please.
• Must have been seen on a game show as a celeb in AT LEAST 3 different decades -- i.e. 50's, 60's, 70's, etc... (this is the stickler).
Discuss.
Tim K.
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Good question. And I have a good answer. Jamie Farr.
GONG (70s)
SUPER PASSWORD (80s)
H2 (2003)
$100,000 PYRAMID (80s)
BODY LANGUAGE (1984)
and if you don't want to count GONG as a game show (as some may not), he did TATTLETALES in 1975
And I'm sure I could scrounge up more. :)
Doug
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He also was a frequent guest on the short lived Wordplay. He hosted once also when Tom was ill.
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There was a guy named Alejandro Ray who was apparently an actor of some kind...but all I ever saw him on were a number of game shows in the 60's and 70's (as GSN reruns, mind):
He Said, She Said
What's My Line (Syndie version)
Match Game '7x
Tattletales (unless this counts as a version of He Said, She Said)
To Tell the Truth(I think)
--Sam
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[quote name=\'SamJ93\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 08:54 PM\']There was a guy named Alejandro Ray who was apparently an actor of some kind...but all I ever saw him on were a number of game shows in the 60's and 70's (as GSN reruns, mind):
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Alejandro Rey: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0721031/ (http://\"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0721031/\")
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[quote name=\'SamJ93\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 10:54 PM\']There was a guy named Alejandro Ray who was apparently an actor of some kind...
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You've never seen The Flying Nun? Oh, the horror.
I'm certain Bill Cullen qualifies. And no doubt Jan Murray does, too.
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Don H. wrote:
You've never seen The Flying Nun? Oh, the horror.
I'm certain Bill Cullen qualifies. And no doubt Jan Murray does, too.
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Zach replies:
Have Arlene and Kitty done at least five shows(counting WML for Arlene and TTTT for Kitty)
Orson Bean(Tattletales, TTTT, MG7x, Super Password, and I'm sure at least one other) and TOm Poston(Squares, Battlestars, Super Password, $25K Pyramid, TTTT, and possible others) and Soupy Sales(Pyramid, Narz/Wood BtC, Pictionary, Blackout, TTTT) count among TTTT regs.
Several GS hosts besides Cullen would probably qualify, no?
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Dick Gautier. He did "Match Game", "Tattletales", "Password Plus", "Super Password", and I'm pretty sure was a guest on Gene Wood's "Beat the Clock".
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 08:04 AM\']Dick Gautier. He did "Match Game", "Tattletales", "Password Plus", "Super Password", and I'm pretty sure was a guest on Gene Wood's "Beat the Clock".
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Add to that Liar's Club and WLOD.
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Bob Barker would fit on this list also. He was on the 70's Match Game many times, Davidson and later made Bergeron Hollywood Squares(in a cameo role), Break the Bank with Jack Barry, the early 70's I've got a Secret with Steve Allen, Family Feud with Ray Combs, and Tattletales with Bert Convy.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 08:04 AM\']Dick Gautier. He did "Match Game", "Tattletales", "Password Plus", "Super Password", and I'm pretty sure was a guest on Gene Wood's "Beat the Clock".
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But those shows only spanned two decades, if Wood was the host of BTC when Gautier made his appearance, and even if Narz was hosting Gautier would've had to appear in the first four months for it to count as a 60s appearance. I don't recall him having been on MG9x either
And I would count P+ and SP as one show with two incarnations (the OP wanted at least five different shows with no incarnations). Of course, Zach did add WLoD and LIAR'S CLUB (and again, unless Gautier did the 1969 version we're still talking about two decades).
Not to say that Gautier doesn't qualify, we just need find a show not from the 70s or 80s that he appeared on to satisfy the qualification brought up from Tim.
Doug
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In the meantime, I found one other that does qualify--Vicki Lawrence. She did:
MG7x
TTTT91
BATTLESTARS
BODY LANGUAGE
BTB76
SUPER PASSWORD
among others.
Doug
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How about Big Bill Shatner? From Daly WML? in '65 to Weakest Link in this decade.
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Anita Gillette. Never liked her. She did WML? in the '60s, all the Bob Stewart games in the 70s, and I would imagine Pyramid in the '80s.
JoAnne Worley. Must've done something in the '60s, then every possible game in the '70s and '80s.
It always seemed like the mark of a cut-rate show if they had Anita Gillette and JoAnne Worley on a lot. Match Game '7x did, but only at the very beginning. Then they kicked them both to the curb.
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JoAnne Worley. Must've done something in the '60s, then every possible game in the '70s and '80s.
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Even if she didn't do any shows in the 60s, she did MG90 and $100K Pyramid in the early 90s, and Bergeron HS and Balderdash(airs next month) this decade.
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Anita Gillette was a panelist on the syndie WML the day I was a contestant in 1971. In fact she did many weeks on that version of the show. So the Goodson folks also thought she had the game show gene.
Can stem cell research help isolate and develop that gene? But I digress.
I see we're giving "props" on the board to Nipsey Russell on his 80th today. He must be in the top ten of veteran players, in addition to being a really nice guy.
Randy
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Were there "exclusivity" clauses for some celebs? For example after Squares started, you would see Rose Marie or Wally Cox on just about every H-Q show, but not on any Goodson shows (unless I'm forgetting something).
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 01:19 PM\']Were there "exclusivity" clauses for some celebs? For example after Squares started, you would see Rose Marie or Wally Cox on just about every H-Q show, but not on any Goodson shows (unless I'm forgetting something).
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And in reverse of that....Were Brett or CNR ever on Squares? (Marshall version of course).
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 01:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 01:19 PM\']Were there "exclusivity" clauses for some celebs? For example after Squares started, you would see Rose Marie or Wally Cox on just about every H-Q show, but not on any Goodson shows (unless I'm forgetting something).
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And in reverse of that....Were Brett or CNR ever on Squares? (Marshall version of course).
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Don't know about Brett Somers, but Charles Nelson Reilly starred in "The Ghost and Mrs. Muir", an NBC Sitcom in 1968-69 with Hope Lange And Edward Mulhare (The show moved to ABC for 1969-70).. I would say there is a decent chance that Charles may have been on Squares during the 1968-69 season at least if not earlier.
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 11:53 AM\']Anita Gillette was a panelist on the syndie WML the day I was a contestant in 1971. In fact she did many weeks on that version of the show. So the Goodson folks also thought she had the game show gene.
Can stem cell research help isolate and develop that gene? But I digress.
I see we're giving "props" on the board to Nipsey Russell on his 80th today. He must be in the top ten of veteran players, in addition to being a really nice guy.
Randy
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I suspect Anita's appearances on WML? were actually what caused most game shows to move to the west coast. The Goodson people can only play the cards they're dealt.
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I might as well ask, Randy, but what *was* your line the day you appeared on WML in 1971 (and there must be an interesting anecdote or two along the way as well)?
Doug
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Anecdotes? I've got a website full of anecdotes. And a few thousand more come to mind whenever there's a drink in front of me (just ask the members of this board who visited TPiR-Live in Atlantic City ;-)
I had just started getting chummy with Johnny O at WML, and he had given me a little schtick to do in his warm-up whenever I cut school to visit. An episode was running short, and Dick DeBartolo came looking for four audience members to play in a "Who's Who" segment. Johnny immediately pointed me out to Dick and said "He's great". The hardest part was then coming up with a "line"; student was not gonna be unique enough. But as I had recently been given an airshift on my school radio station, we agreed on "Disc Jockey".
Even though the "Jeweler" insisted on wearing his ton of bling bling, Anita and Arlene both missed making the matches. Soupy guessed the right combination. I got $50 and a really pretty star saphire ring that I still wear. I thanked Johnny, and then rode down the elevator with Soupy and Anita to the very boring real world. ;-)
Randy
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 11:21 AM\']JoAnne Worley. Must've done something in the '60s, then every possible game in the '70s and '80s.
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Jo Anne Worley? Just a little thing in the '60s and '70s called Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In. (Before that, an even littler thing called The Mad Show in 1965 - an off-Broadway play based on Mad Magazine).
-Mystery 7
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[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 03:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 11:21 AM\']JoAnne Worley. Must've done something in the '60s, then every possible game in the '70s and '80s.
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Jo Anne Worley? Just a little thing in the '60s and '70s called Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In. (Before that, an even littler thing called The Mad Show in 1965 - an off-Broadway play based on Mad Magazine).
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The question isn't whether or not she did Laugh-In. The question is whether or not she did a game show during that '60s (a point which is now moot since we know she's done some in the current decade).
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A tricky one because he's kinda hidden in plain sight...Gene Rayburn. All sorts of guest panelist appearances from the fifties through the eighties. The imdb.com page (http://\"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0713073/\") lists Name's the Same, TTTT, WML, Tattletales, Just Men!, many others. I tend to think of him as a host only...and of only one show. Shows how a single gig - if it's the perfect gig - can define a performer's image.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 12:19 PM\']Were there "exclusivity" clauses for some celebs? For example after Squares started, you would see Rose Marie or Wally Cox on just about every H-Q show, but not on any Goodson shows (unless I'm forgetting something).
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Both H-Q and G-T had most of their regulars locked up in exclusivity clauses. Paul Lynde did go on "Pyramid" in either 1973 or 1974, but never again. Bill Cullen was probably the one G-T regular who didn't have an exclusivity clause in his contract, going back to "IGAS"--because he seemed to be always working for another packager on top of his panel gigs.
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 03:12 PM\']The question isn't whether or not she did Laugh-In. The question is whether or not she did a game show during that '60s (a point which is now moot since we know she's done some in the current decade).
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On the episode of PDQ that's at UCLA, she was one of the celebrities.
--Mike
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According to Peter Marshall's book, Charles Nelson Reilly did appear on Hollywood Squares. Not Brett though.
Gene Rayburn has guest appearances on more than a dozen game show to his credit, including Hollywood Squares.
In addition to PDQ, other 60's game show appearances for Jo Anne Worley include The Dating Game, Personality, Snap Judgment, The Match Game, Funny You Should Ask, Name Droppers and, logically enough, Letters to Laugh-In.
Anita Gillette became a game show staple because the Goodson camp was doing in the early seventies what they'd been doing pretty much from the beginning: Populating their panels with bright, attractive folks who were appearing on the New York stage. In many cases their stage careers never took off, and in a few cases their fame grew far beyond the bounds of "game show panelist" but people like Gillette, Elaine Joyce, Alan Alda, Larry Blyden, Bert Convy, Jack Cassidy and many more were "discovered" as game show personalities simply because they were "treading the boards" in the early seventies and were available for a little extra work.
On his site, Steve Beverly has a list of a small handfull of celebrities who make up the "Six Decade Club", covering every decade from the 50s to this one. By comparison, the qualifications (5 shows, 3 decades) made by our OP are hardly a big deal. There are probably a couple hundred or more that would qualify.
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Coolio's become a GS veteran in recent years, having appeared on:
MG '98
HS (Bergeron)
Figure it Out
2-Minute Drill
Pyramid
WL
Pictionary
...and possibly a coupla others that I'm missing.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 04:49 PM\']Coolio's become a GS veteran in recent years
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How quickly everybody forgets that CNR and Brett did a week of H^2's Game Show Week in 2002. :-)
And Anita Gillette did a week of $100K Pyramid in either late 1986 or early 1987, just before the cancellation of Search for Tomorrow. (I recall GSN airing it when they most recently had it on in the 11AM ET hour.)
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I'm surprised that Phyllis Diller Jim J. Bullock, & Arte Johnson were not mentioned yet. And I'm thinking that if John Ritter did H2, or something in the 90s he'd meet the 3 decade prerequisite too, but did he do 3 other shows besides $xxx,000 Pyramid & HSq?
Anyhoo, it's amazing that most, if not all of the people who have fit the 5 show/3 decade requirement thus far fall into one of 2 categories:
1) Comedian/comedienne, or
2) Someone who was famous for one single show/movie/play (i.e. Jamie Farr). But if you didn't know that one big show, you'd probably think they were game show fodder from off the street because you don't know where the heck else they came from.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Oct 14 2004, 03:57 AM\']I'm surprised that Phyllis Diller Jim J. Bullock, & Arte Johnson were not mentioned yet. And I'm thinking that if John Ritter did H2, or something in the 90s he'd meet the 3 decade prerequisite too, but did he do 3 other shows besides $xxx,000 Pyramid & HSq?
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Ritter did Dating Game, Get Rich Quick(pilot), Dawson Feud(all-star primetime ABC special). His Dating Game appearance was in the 60s, so he fits the three decade requirement.
If Richard Kline did a show in the 70s(did he do the Feud special with the 3's Co. team), he too fits the three decade club, as he did Pyramid and others in 80s, and MG90 in the 90s.
Did Arte do a game show in the 60s? I suspect he did letters to Laugh-In. If so, he fits the three decade club(did Hot Potato in 80s, and MG90 in 90s, plus his 70s appearances)
Ron Masak fits the three decade club too, as he did MG74 and Password Plus in the 70s , Last Word and Hot Potato in the 80s , and TTTT90 in 90s.
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Gene Rayburn. All sorts of guest panelist appearances from the fifties through the eighties. The imdb.com page lists Name's the Same, TTTT, WML, Tattletales, Just Men!, many others. I tend to think of him as a host only...and of only one show. Shows how a single gig - if it's the perfect gig - can define a performer's image.
Many sitcom performers have stated the same - that no matter what they do, they'll always be known for their most famous role. Don Adams (of "Get Smart") and Bob Denver (of "Gilligan's Island") are two that fit the bill. Both have had other roles but I bet most people would be hard pressed to name them. Some stars have even said that the fame of that one character has even hurt their chances of being cast in other roles.
Don was a guest on "Match Game 74" and Bob did "Definition" in 1976.
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Many sitcom performers have stated the same - that no matter what they do, they'll always be known for their most famous role. Don Adams (of "Get Smart") and Bob Denver (of "Gilligan's Island") are two that fit the bill. Both have had other roles but I bet most people would be hard pressed to name them.[snapback]60798[/snapback]
Inspector Gadget, anyone??
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Many sitcom performers have stated the same - that no matter what they do, they'll always be known for their most famous role. Don Adams (of "Get Smart") and Bob Denver (of "Gilligan's Island") are two that fit the bill. Both have had other roles but I bet most people would be hard pressed to name them.[snapback]60798[/snapback]
Inspector Gadget, anyone??
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Here's an obvious answer Artie Johnson and Jamie Farr.
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Many sitcom performers have stated the same - that no matter what they do, they'll always be known for their most famous role. Don Adams (of "Get Smart") and Bob Denver (of "Gilligan's Island") are two that fit the bill. Both have had other roles but I bet most people would be hard pressed to name them.[snapback]60798[/snapback]
Inspector Gadget, anyone??
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Here's an obvious answer Artie Johnson and Jamie Farr.
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Not sure I see what's so obvious about your answer. If you're answering the OP's question, both Arte Johnson and Jamie Farr already have been named in this thread (on the other hand, maybe THAT'S what's obvious ;-) ).
If you're answering Shuffield's question, then you've really lost me.
Doug
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Re: Bob Denver. Many thought it would be difficult for him to escape being typecast as Maynard G. Krebs, but they were proved wrong. He was on Celeb. Sweepstakes for at least one week.
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And Anita Gillette did a week of $100K Pyramid in either late 1986 or early 1987, just before the cancellation of Search for Tomorrow. (I recall GSN airing it when they most recently had it on in the 11AM ET hour.)
She also did a wk of Super Password around that time (1986), joined by Robert Reed, who I believe was one of her SFT co-stars at the time.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Speaking of Anita Gillette, a lot of people will probably be seeing her at the movies this weekend--she's one of J-Lo's dance students with Richard Gere in "Shall We Dance?" Lisa Ann Walter, which some of you lusted after when she appeared on one of the comedian U.S. "TWL" shows, is also in the film.
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Anita Gillette did have a recurring role on "Quincy" and she was on "Law and Order" in the last couple of years. Fine actress, but I still say she didn't add much to a panel.
Does anyone know how Charlie Brill and Mitzi McCall gained celebrity status? They appeared on Match Game, Tattletales, Rhyme and Reason and the Gong Show. I assume there's a fifth out there somewhere, though they probably don't meet the three decade standard. But anyway, who the hell are they?
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They followed the Beatles on "The Ed Sullivan Show."
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Really? So what did they do? Did they juggle plates? Were they billed as the next Nichols and May? Were they in a soup commercial?
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I was unsure if they were on after or before the Beatles, so I changed my initial post you quoted. It was a comedy routine, I think you can get that episode on DVD.
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I got $50 and a really pretty star saphire ring that I still wear.
Sarah Coventry I presume (accept no substitutes).
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 15 2004, 02:35 PM\']Lisa Ann Walter, which some of you lusted after when she appeared on one of the comedian U.S. "TWL" shows, is also in the film.
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I take umbrage at that comment.
I was lusting after her well before. :)
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Oct 15 2004, 04:10 PM\']Does anyone know how Charlie Brill and Mitzi McCall gained celebrity status? They appeared on Match Game, Tattletales, Rhyme and Reason and the Gong Show. I assume there's a fifth out there somewhere, though they probably don't meet the three decade standard. But anyway, who the hell are they?
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Oct 16 2004, 07:36 AM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Oct 15 2004, 04:10 PM\']Does anyone know how Charlie Brill and Mitzi McCall gained celebrity status? They appeared on Match Game, Tattletales, Rhyme and Reason and the Gong Show. I assume there's a fifth out there somewhere, though they probably don't meet the three decade standard. But anyway, who the hell are they?
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Your basic 60s husband-wife comedy team, sort of a poor man's Stiller and Meara.
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Thanks. And thanks for the quip in your signature! I can imagine Allen's growly "think about it" now.
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[Jim Perry]Talking about Lisa Ann Walter, her now-infamous "jugs" clue on a 2002 ep of Pyramid caught the attention of many a GS fan...however, w/the show now in reruns on PAX, I hope it doesn't catch the attention of their censors. We'll be right back (cue $otC theme).[/JP]
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Does anyone know how Charlie Brill and Mitzi McCall gained celebrity status? They appeared on Match Game, Tattletales, Rhyme and Reason and the Gong Show. I assume there's a fifth out there somewhere, though they probably don't meet the three decade standard. But anyway, who the hell are they?
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I remember Mitzi appearing on Celebrity Sweepstakes (Charlie was probably there, too.) There was one ep where Mitzi (apparently thinking she was off-camera) lit up a cigarette, possibly unaware that the camera was panning the panel while the end credits were rolling.
Esoteric Eric, ObCharlieBrill: Charlie guest-starred (sans moustache and shades) as Klingon spy Arne Darvin in Star Trek's "The Trouble with Tribbles" (1967) and DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations" (1996)