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I haven't been watching faithfully, but I have been watching it occasionally. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong...
But it seems that this season, whenever one family grabs a lot of points from the first two questions, the third question (the one where the points are doubled) has a terribly small total number of points that will just barely keep the leading family from reaching 300.
If that's the case, doesn't that defeat nearly the entire purpose of playing to a fixed amount?
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Scott Robinson
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Probably trying to avoid having to "kill time" like they did last season, several times the game was won after only 3 rounds.
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Oct 6 2004, 04:27 PM\']Probably trying to avoid having to "kill time" like they did last season, several times the game was won after only 3 rounds.
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So basically, they've altered the game because Karn's inept.
And they wonder why ratings are bad...
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They didn't do anything because "Karn's inept". It really has nothing to do with him. If a family got the 300 in the first 3 rounds, they had a bunch of time to kill at the end so what else are they supposed to do? Seems to me that they're just trying to avoid showing "best of" moments at the end of a show.
Oh, and ratings aren't that bad........ Karn is scoring better than Louie ddi
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[quote name=\'MitchJoseph2004\' date=\'Oct 6 2004, 05:30 PM\']Oh, and ratings aren't that bad........ Karn is scoring better than Louie did
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In some markets, Sermonette is doing better that Louie did.
I do miss those long, slow credit rolls with that awesome music looped about five times, but I will survive. Richard Karn is terrific, we've got returning champions (wish there was no limit, but I can deal with it) and it's a good non-backstabbing show.
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Back when Ray Combs hosted the show, there were times when a game would end in three rounds. It's funny how he never seemed to have trouble with the extra time gained, and he even had more actual show time (less commercial time) to deal with then!
On a similar subject, it seems theoretically possible that one team could win the first four rounds and still not win the game. If that were to happen, it's possible that, even after the tiebreaker, if the team at $0 won the question, they would still not have a winner. Would they just go to a second tiebreaker, or would they dig up a survey where all 100 people answered the same way to avoid a second tiebreaker?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Oct 6 2004, 05:43 PM\'][quote name=\'MitchJoseph2004\' date=\'Oct 6 2004, 05:30 PM\']Oh, and ratings aren't that bad........ Karn is scoring better than Louie did
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In some markets, Sermonette is doing better that Louie did.
I do miss those long, slow credit rolls with that awesome music looped about five times, but I will survive. Richard Karn is terrific, we've got returning champions (wish there was no limit, but I can deal with it) and it's a good non-backstabbing show.
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Which always makes me wonder..Do you think if they kept Louie, while all these changes were made, that the show would still have lasted this long? I have nothing against Richard, I like him, in fact he kinda reminds me of Ray Combs a little bit.
But I liked Louie too, he really wasn't THAT bad. There were some things I liked about for instance, IMO he did the "small talk" with the contestants very well and I liked his fast money "antics", such as having the family "going up to touch the board"
Off Topic: Was the board on Louie's set bigger than it is now?
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[quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Oct 7 2004, 02:24 PM\']
Which always makes me wonder..Do you think if they kept Louie, while all these changes were made, that the show would still have lasted this long?
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There's not much they could've done--Louie's personal problems were looming too large (pun not intended) for him to be kept around. They were just lucky that Karn has proven to be at least competent at the show and that enough people seem to like him that the ratings have improved.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 7 2004, 04:00 PM\']They were just lucky that Karn has proven to be at least competent at the show and that enough people seem to like him that the ratings have improved.
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I do wish he'd cease and desist with the use of the phrase "first blood". However, that's not nearly as bad as Jack Barry's use of "a leg up" on The Joker's Wild. I saw this and have it on tape from the late 1970s:
For the champion's first question, Jack said, "Answer correctly and you'll have a leg up".
For the champion's second question, Jack said, "Answer correctly and you'll have two legs up".
And (so help me) for the champion's third question in that game, Jack said, "Answer correctly and you'll have three legs up".
He dispensed with the adding of the extra limbs beginning with the fourth round.
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Karn's OK...until they could get Marco Antonio Regil over here too ;-) (I *think* he's bilingual, anyone care to deny or confirm?)
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Personally I like Louie way better than Karn. He just tries too hard, imo.
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 7 2004, 11:23 PM\']Personally I like Louie way better than Karn. He just tries too hard, imo.
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I have nothing against Richard, I like him, in fact he kinda reminds me of Ray Combs a little bit.
My fault with Karn is that he seems to try too hard - it doesn't come naturally. But he has improved a fair bit since he took over.
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Just wondering does the host actually know the survey answers? They seem surprised sometimes when they seem then as they're displayed, but its way too common that they know exactly when the 3rd strike is about to happen. I have noticed this on Karn's version, that you can tell that the third strike is about to show, even if it is a good answer given. I have not seen an instance where a short speech was given just before the third strike. I havent seen much nor remember past versions very well so i cant remember if it was done on these too. (dont get GSN) I've seen a few recently of Dawson, but didnt notice.
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Mark
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The reason you hardly ever see short speeches before the 3rd strike, is because the host is explaining what will happen depending on if the answer given comes up or not.
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Just wondering does the host actually know the survey answers? They seem surprised sometimes when they seem then as they're displayed, but its way too common that they know exactly when the 3rd strike is about to happen.
Dawson and Combs stated a few times that they have no idea what's up there. However, I'm sure they play along too (as much as they can) so if they make it look like they know when a third strike is coming, they can probably figure out THAT answer likely won't be there!
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Maxene Fabe's book showed a typical "Feud" question card. No answers on it--just (TV scripts are generally all caps):
WE SURVEYED 100 PEOPLE, TOP (number) ANSWERS ON THE BOARD--TRY TO FIND THE MOST POPULAR ANSWER:
(Question)
Yeah, I guess that was on every question, even if Dawson or Combs (or Louie or Karn) really needed it or need it.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 11 2004, 05:20 PM\']Maxene Fabe's book showed a typical "Feud" question card. No answers on it--just (TV scripts are generally all caps):
WE SURVEYED 100 PEOPLE, TOP (number) ANSWERS ON THE BOARD--TRY TO FIND THE MOST POPULAR ANSWER:
(Question)
Yeah, I guess that was on every question, even if Dawson or Combs (or Louie or Karn) really needed it or need it.
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Even without the Fabe book, though, I think we could surmise that the answers are not on the card since Dawson (and probably Combs, though I don't recall specifically) frequently showed the question to the contestants as he moved down the line.
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Karn just isn't funny. He can't get a reaction unless he does, indeed, go wild and double the points.
Louie, on the other hand, is funny. Can someone who saw Bergeron's Squares (it only ran one of the seasons in Minneapolis) say if Louie was on there very often after his booting from the Feud? He was pretty darn good on Davidson's version--no mean feat.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 10:22 AM\']Karn just isn't funny. He can't get a reaction unless he does, indeed, go wild and double the points.
Louie, on the other hand, is funny. Can someone who saw Bergeron's Squares (it only ran one of the seasons in Minneapolis) say if Louie was on there very often after his booting from the Feud? He was pretty darn good on Davidson's version--no mean feat.
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I don't think he ever appeared on the show. Louie seems to have been out of the spotlight since being booted from Feud. I guess that controversy hurt his career. Looking at Karn, I realize that Louie really wasn't that bad, he just stumbled a lot. Karn tries too hard to pump energy into the show, i.e. "I'm DOUBLING those points! Yeah, baby!". I'm with you, it's like he's begging for the audience's attention. It should just come naturally.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 12:04 PM\']I don't think he ever appeared on the show. Louie seems to have been out of the spotlight since being booted from Feud. I guess that controversy hurt his career. Looking at Karn, I realize that Louie really wasn't that bad, he just stumbled a lot. Karn tries too hard to pump energy into the show, i.e. "I'm DOUBLING those points! Yeah, baby!". I'm with you, it's like he's begging for the audience's attention. It should just come naturally.
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No, he did do one week. And he was alright. Not great, but alright.
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 01:06 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 12:04 PM\']I don't think he ever appeared on the show. Louie seems to have been out of the spotlight since being booted from Feud. I guess that controversy hurt his career. Looking at Karn, I realize that Louie really wasn't that bad, he just stumbled a lot. Karn tries too hard to pump energy into the show, i.e. "I'm DOUBLING those points! Yeah, baby!". I'm with you, it's like he's begging for the audience's attention. It should just come naturally.
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No, he did do one week. And he was alright. Not great, but alright.
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I stand corrected. :-) Was this during the Whoopi or H2 era?
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I stand corrected. :-) Was this during the Whoopi or H2 era?
Both, actually...he did a partial wk during the first season in Nov 1998, a full week the following April, and returned during (I think) the first season (02-03) of the Winkler-Levitt era.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 05:13 PM\']
I stand corrected. :-) Was this during the Whoopi or H2 era?
Both, actually...he did a partial wk during the first season in Nov 1998, a full week the following April, and returned during (I think) the first season (02-03) of the Winkler-Levitt era.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Were most weeks in season 1 partial ones? By that, I mean did celebs often change from day to day?
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 05:37 PM\']Were most weeks in season 1 partial ones? By that, I mean did celebs often change from day to day?
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No. Usually they stayed on all week.
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Why was Louie only on for part of a week then?
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Oct 8 2004, 05:02 AM\'][quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 7 2004, 11:23 PM\']Personally I like Louie way better than Karn. He just tries too hard, imo.
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But not before Louie distracts him by asking, "IS IT UP THERE?" ;-)
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 05:59 AM\'][quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Oct 8 2004, 05:02 AM\'][quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 7 2004, 11:23 PM\']Personally I like Louie way better than Karn. He just tries too hard, imo.
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But not before Louie distracts him by asking, "IS IT UP THERE?" ;-)
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Show me Puddin!
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 07:42 PM\']Why was Louie only on for part of a week then?
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It might've been the week that Robin Williams and Billy Crystal guested (Comic Relief reunion--Thanksgiving week 98). IIRC, Robin and Billy appeared for the first three days, then a new panel took over for Thursday and Friday. AFAIK, that was the only partial week during the run.
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 04:59 AM\'][quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Oct 8 2004, 05:02 AM\'][quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 7 2004, 11:23 PM\']Personally I like Louie way better than Karn. He just tries too hard, imo.
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But not before Louie distracts him by asking, "IS IT UP THERE?" ;-)
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...and then follows up by telling him that he "surveyed 100 people, top 5 answers on the board, give me that popular answer, get the points, get the points win the game, win the game play Fast Money, play Fast Money and...I KICK YOUR ASS!" ;-)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 11:16 AM\'][quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Oct 12 2004, 07:42 PM\']Why was Louie only on for part of a week then?
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It might've been the week that Robin Williams and Billy Crystal guested (Comic Relief reunion--Thanksgiving week 98). IIRC, Robin and Billy appeared for the first three days, then a new panel took over for Thursday and Friday. AFAIK, that was the only partial week during the run.
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I can be corrected, but I believe the same panel was in place for the entire week, with the exception of Williams and Crystal.
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It might've been the week that Robin Williams and Billy Crystal guested (Comic Relief reunion--Thanksgiving week 98). IIRC, Robin and Billy appeared for the first three days, then a new panel took over for Thursday and Friday. AFAIK, that was the only partial week during the run.
It was indeed the Comic Relief week...Robin and Billy only signed for 3 eps, so they changed the panel for the Thu-Fri shows. Also, they did feature other theme weeks where the lineups changed from day to day:
Teen People Week
Soap Week
DJ Week
All 3 weeks of shows from NY in Nov. 2000
WLiiA? Week
Classic TV Week (99 and 01)
Young Stars Week
Classic Music Week
Women Who Care Week
There were also a coupla wks that featured a single "square du jour"...a 2000 week saw 2 different cast members from Y&R occupying a square each day, while B&B got the same treatment for its 15th anniv. in Mar. 2002, and a May 2001 week saw Big Bird and Oscar alternating in a square.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 07:02 PM\']There were also a coupla wks that featured a single "square du jour"...a 2000 week saw 2 different cast members from Y&R occupying a square each day, while B&B got the same treatment for its 15th anniv. in Mar. 2002, and a May 2001 week saw Big Bird and Oscar alternating in a square.
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Of course, in real life, Big Bird and Oscar are one and the same, so does that really count?
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Of course, in real life, Big Bird and Oscar are one and the same, so does that really count?
Touche. :-) You can also add the Survivor Outback and Africa wks that aired in May 01 and Feb 02, respectively.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")