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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: edholland83 on July 15, 2003, 06:59:51 PM
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This was a question in which, you could use your own judgement, most of the game show hosts that we speak of on these boards have one-time or another held the hosting reigns of at least one Goodson-Todman game show, and I wanted to get everybody's opinion, I myself am unsure of who I would choose, so I will say Peter Marshall.
If someone could, correct me if Marshall has hosted a G/T game
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That's easy...
GUY SMILEY!
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My favorite non-GT host is Jim Peck.
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I'll catch some heat for this, but after seeing Nick Clooney on one episode of \"The Money Maze,\" I thought he did a terrific job. But all of the above were great, too.
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Jim Perry and Chuck Woolery are the two names that came immediately to my mind, but then I remembered Card Sharks, which of course disqualifies Perry. Peter Tomarken is a third.
Ultimately I'd have to go with Woolery, then Tomarken, that order.
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You know...this is going to sound crazy, but if I never paid attention to the credits, I'd swear that Press Your Luck could come off as being a G/T production.
Just an extremely random thought, since we're on the topic of untapped G/T hosts...
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Woolery, Marshall, Peck, et al are up on there on the best non-GT host scale, but we've forgotten our newsgroup friend Geoff Edwards(though he was among the considerations for Feud before Dawson got the gig), and Wink Martindale, who I believe with 33 years between the premiere of What's This Song on NBC and the ending of Debt on Lifetime, has the longest hosting career without ever doing anything G-T.
Tom Bergeron among the more recent stable of hosts.
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[quote name=\'Steve_Bier\' date=\'Jul 15 2003, 06:28 PM\'] You know...this is going to sound crazy, but if I never paid attention to the credits, I'd swear that Press Your Luck could come off as being a G/T production.
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I'd agree. It had a decent amount of quality to it. I love Pyramid, but I couldn't say it had the same quality, most notably in the beginning of the run.
Brandon Brooks
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did Dick Clark host any G-T shows?
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Jul 15 2003, 07:12 PM\'] did Dick Clark host any G-T shows? [/quote]
Missing Links
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Peter Tomarken!
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Grant, to the viewing public, you are right.
However, Peter hosted a pilot for Goodson around 1990 called \"TKO\", that involved contestants answering Blockbusters Gold Run-style questions in order to get the right to knock money out of their opponents' scores. There was a piece done on the pilot either as part of a segment or one of a series of segments about game shows for an L.A.-area TV magazine show.
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[quote name=\'Grant78898\' date=\'Jul 15 2003, 09:17 PM\'] Peter Tomarken! [/quote]
I agree with you, Grant.
ObGameShow: Bye, Friend or Foe! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
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\"Splitsecond\", whomever this person is, seems really to know their stuff. The person seems to want to go incognito around here, but is this person someone who actually worked on one of the versions of SS or any other game shows?
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I've worked in game shows, but not on Split Second. I am merely a big fan of that show.
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Woolrey and Tomarken are the best of the G-T era not to host a G-T or MGP show amoung the hosts who have done a good number of shows. Marshall a close third.
Did Sajak ever do anything G-T I always had the impression that hes only done wof.
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[quote name=\'Starkman\' date=\'Jul 15 2003, 08:53 PM\'] Woolrey and Tomarken are the best of the G-T era not to host a G-T or MGP show amoung the hosts who have done a good number of shows. Marshall a close third.
Did Sajak ever do anything G-T I always had the impression that hes only done wof. [/quote]
Sajak came straight out of a morning radio gig to do Wheel.
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Our co-moderator might be able to clarify and expound on this.
Didn't Pat Sajak host a Goodson-Todman pilot called Puzzlers in 1980?
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Of course, the most notable non-G/T host has to be the Winkster!
And may I also add, in addition to those already mentioned: Jim Lange, Bob Goen, Bob Clayton, and George DeWitt.
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Lillian Naud of the Big Board!'
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IMO, Jim Peck. Humble, humorous, and ever changing hairstyle. ;) He was severly underrated--its too bad all he got handed were crap shows.
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Sajak did two game show pilots before Wheel: The GT pilot Puzzlers in 1980(ask Chris C. for more info on it, as he was working at GT at the time), and Press Your Luck for Ralph Edwards. No, it's not THE PYL, but rather a game based on the then-popular MB electronic game Simon.
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Jul 15 2003, 10:12 PM\']Our co-moderator might be able to clarify and expound on this.
Didn't Pat Sajak host a Goodson-Todman pilot called Puzzlers in 1980?[/quote]
Indeed he did. At the time he was the local weatherman on KNBC-TV. I thought he was a bit bland (and still do) but others in the office were bullish on him.
Apropos of the topic, I always liked Geoff Edwards as an emcee. I think he would have worked out well for a non-celebrity game such as Card Sharks. Geoff is now with K-SURF, one of if not THE lowest-rated radio station in the L.A. market.
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[quote name=\'Steve_Bier\' date=\'Jul 15 2003, 04:28 PM\']I'd swear that Press Your Luck could come off as being a G/T production.[/quote]
No, we preferred to do game shows with an actual GAME behind them.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 16 2003, 07:22 AM\'][quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Jul 15 2003, 10:12 PM\']Our co-moderator might be able to clarify and expound on this.
Didn't Pat Sajak host a Goodson-Todman pilot called Puzzlers in 1980?[/quote]
Indeed he did. At the time he was the local weatherman on KNBC-TV. I thought he was a bit bland (and still do) but others in the office were bullish on him.
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I've read a lot about this show, and all I know was that it used the \"Mindreaders\" theme. How exactly did it work...did it show promise?
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I seem to recall that Chris C. reported waaaaay back in early days of ATGS c. 1995 or 1996 that Puzzlers had mini-games a la TPIR all involving word puzzles.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 16 2003, 11:09 AM\'] I seem to recall that Chris C. reported waaaaay back in early days of ATGS c. 1995 or 1996 that Puzzlers had mini-games a la TPIR all involving word puzzles. [/quote]
I googled on it and came up dry, actually.
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I tried Googling it too, but I thought Chris C. mentioned it back then. He'll fill us in later I am sure. Randy A. reported back then remembering hearing of the pilot being in the works when he worked on CS in SUmmer 1979, and that post popped up on Google.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 16 2003, 07:22 AM\']
Indeed he did. At the time he was the local weatherman on KNBC-TV. I thought he was a bit bland (and still do) but others in the office were bullish on him.
Apropos of the topic, I always liked Geoff Edwards as an emcee. I think he would have worked out well for a non-celebrity game such as Card Sharks. Geoff is now with K-SURF, one of if not THE lowest-rated radio station in the L.A. market. [/quote]
Geoff was a great emcee, and I really would have liked to see him on the LMaD guest spots that he did - how did those go, anyway?
Also, he would have worked great on Hollywood Showdown.
Tomarken gets my vote at the moment. Has Summers done a GT show?
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SUmmers never did a GT show.
Geoff's LMAD hosting was almost on a par with Monty I think. Last Fall during the LMAD Tuesday night vertivision blocks, GSN aired one episode of the week of shows Geoff did in 1985.
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Puzzlers had an elaborate format with so many mini-puzzle games that it's hard to recall all of them 23 years after the fact. One puzzle game involved a picture or drawing of something enclosed on the top and bottom by blanks representing the letters in words associated with the picture, for example:
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(PICTURE OF BIRD)
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One by one the letters in the upper word were revealed:
M _ _ K _ N G
(PICTURE OF BIRD)
and then the letters in the lower word:
(PICTURE OF BIRD)
B R A _ N
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 17 2003, 04:00 AM\'] Puzzlers had an elaborate format with so many mini-puzzle games that it's hard to recall all of them 23 years after the fact. One puzzle game involved a picture or drawing of something enclosed on the top and bottom by blanks representing the letters in words associated with the picture, for example:
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
(PICTURE OF BIRD)
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One by one the letters in the upper word were revealed:
M _ _ K _ N G
(PICTURE OF BIRD)
and then the letters in the lower word:
(PICTURE OF BIRD)
B R A _ N [/quote]
Was Steve Ryan involved with that project at all? That would seem to be his thing and it's the era he was working for GT, since \"Blockbusters\" came out that year.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 17 2003, 04:00 AM\'] Puzzlers had an elaborate format with so many mini-puzzle games that it's hard to recall all of them 23 years after the fact. One puzzle game involved a picture or drawing of something enclosed on the top and bottom by blanks representing the letters in words associated with the picture, for example:
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
(PICTURE OF BIRD)
_ _ _ _ _
One by one the letters in the upper word were revealed:
M _ _ K _ N G
(PICTURE OF BIRD)
and then the letters in the lower word:
(PICTURE OF BIRD)
B R A _ N [/quote]
Mocking and brain. (Mockingbird, birdbrain) :)
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Hmmm...sort of a \"Chain Reaction\" with pictures.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jul 17 2003, 07:45 AM\'] Hmmm...sort of a \"Chain Reaction\" with pictures. [/quote]
We had to change the Puzzlers end game when Chain Reaction came out. They were the same game, but there were other puzzle games unlike the example I gave.
Yes it was a Steve Ryan creation. Later in 1980 he brought us Blockbusters.
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Who announced?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 17 2003, 04:40 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jul 17 2003, 07:45 AM\'] Hmmm...sort of a "Chain Reaction" with pictures. [/quote]
We had to change the Puzzlers end game when Chain Reaction came out. They were the same game, but there were other puzzle games unlike the example I gave.
Yes it was a Steve Ryan creation. Later in 1980 he brought us Blockbusters. [/quote]
It just seems plain weird to me that a game with both the multi-game format of \"The Price Is Right\" and the cognitive sensibilities of \"Password\" wouldn't work. Maybe on a more erudite channel, perhaps.
People still love wordplay games and things like Laddergrams and Word Searches...there's a game show out there for that kind of stuff, but nobody's hit on the right combination yet.
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Goodson-Todman did try to capitalize on Word Searches with the two incarnations of NYSI, but that never really clicked with viewers.
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Goodson-Todman did try to capitalize on Word Searches with the two incarnations of NYSI, but that never really clicked with viewers.
...although we partly have then-CBS prez Fred Silverman to thank for that version's cancellation...guess what his one of his final decisions before departing for ABC was?
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
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...although we partly have then-CBS prez Fred Silverman to thank for that version's cancellation...guess what his one of his final decisions before departing for ABC was?
Which is ironic because he was an executive producer for the '21' revival we'll be watching (and watching and watching...) on GSN soon.
See, he doesn't dislike all game shows... just good ones!
JOSH
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[quote name=\'matchgame\' date=\'Jul 21 2003, 03:25 AM\'] Which is ironic because he was an executive producer for the '21' revival we'll be watching (and watching and watching...) on GSN soon. [/quote]
Speak for yourself. My TV, for one, has other channels. Plus I have a STACK of DVD's I need to catch up on, if I'm to be properly prepared for the November From Hell (DVD releases of the Indiana Jones Trilogy, Matrix Reloaded, and new Alien Quadrilogy boxed set)...
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Speak for yourself. My TV, for one, has other channels. Plus I have a STACK of DVD's I need to catch up on, if I'm to be properly prepared for the November From Hell (DVD releases of the Indiana Jones Trilogy, Matrix Reloaded, and new Alien Quadrilogy boxed set)...
Oh I won't be watching '21' if at all... I was implying that it'll be reran into the ground. Merely a misunderstood attempt at humor.
Plus, another set of Family Guy DVD's will be released in September.
Now if I just got Trio at the house, I'd be set...
JOSH
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Does Fremantle count as being part of GT? If not, I'm suprised somebody didn't vote for Todd Newton. Personally, either PM or Tom Bergeron for best non GT host, and Peter Tomarken right behind those two.
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Does Fremantle count as being part of GT?
It most certainly does not.
If not, I'm suprised somebody didn't vote for Todd Newton.
G-T was not responsible for creating that show.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Jul 15 2003, 09:27 PM\'] Grant, to the viewing public, you are right.
However, Peter hosted a pilot for Goodson around 1990 called "TKO", that involved contestants answering Blockbusters Gold Run-style questions in order to get the right to knock money out of their opponents' scores. There was a piece done on the pilot either as part of a segment or one of a series of segments about game shows for an L.A.-area TV magazine show. [/quote]
Grant, to the viewing public, you are right.
However, Peter hosted a pilot for Goodson around 1990 called \"TKO\", that involved contestants answering Blockbusters Gold Run-style questions in order to get the right to knock money out of their opponents' scores. There was a piece done on the pilot either as part of a segment or one of a series of segments about game shows for an L.A.-area TV magazine show.
First, does anyone have a take of this or a detailed explination of the rules as this could make a great game for Big Jon to do.
Second it's surprising that G-T was still trying to come up with new formats after the failure of Trivia Trap and the fact that so many of their classic formats were still in production. I mean when you have
Family Feud
Match Game
TPIR
To Tell The truth
And just ended production on versions of Card Sharks and Password, why not just trot a new version of another classic.
Richard Hudson
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[quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Aug 10 2003, 08:58 PM\']
And just ended production on versions of Card Sharks and Password, why not just trot a new version of another classic.
Richard Hudson [/quote]
Uh, Match Game '90?
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Aug 10 2003, 08:00 PM\'] [quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Aug 10 2003, 08:58 PM\']
And just ended production on versions of Card Sharks and Password, why not just trot a new version of another classic.
Richard Hudson [/quote]
Uh, Match Game '90? [/quote]
[quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Aug 10 2003, 08:58 PM\']
And just ended production on versions of Card Sharks and Password, why not just trot a new version of another classic.
Richard Hudson
Uh, Match Game '90?[/quote]
See above.
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See above.
Huh?
and BTW, what is all that weird coding that comes up when I try to quote you?
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Aug 10 2003, 06:08 PM\'] and BTW, what is all that weird coding that comes up when I try to quote you? [/quote]
That's Richard not figuring out yet that you don't need to copy what you want to quote into the top box, you just need to leave it in the bottom box. As a result a whole lot of unnecessary formatting happens.