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Does anyone know of the special categores on "The Joker's Wild"
(ex. Fast Forward)
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[quote name=\'trivia202003\' date=\'Aug 1 2004, 07:03 PM\'] Does anyone know of the special categories on "The Joker's Wild"
(ex. Fast Forward) [/quote]
The Mystery category (if you took that and were correct, you got double the bucks)
Stumpers (questions missed by both players on a previous show)
Definitions (whoops! sorry; bad early 90s flashback)
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Picture Pix (was just fast foward with pictures thrown in)
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Bid (they bid on how many questions in a category they could answer in a row, the minimum bid was 2)
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Stumpers (questions missed by both players on a previous show)
And like the Mystery Category, questions there were worth double value.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Aug 1 2004, 09:23 PM\']
Stumpers (questions missed by both players on a previous show)
And like the Mystery Category, questions there were worth double value.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
Wasn't there some kind of angle where you could ask Jack/Jim/Bill to give you the wrong answers that were given, but at that point the question was only worth the normal value, or some such? Or am I high on crack?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 2 2004, 12:08 AM\'] [quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Aug 1 2004, 09:23 PM\']
Stumpers (questions missed by both players on a previous show)
And like the Mystery Category, questions there were worth double value.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
Wasn't there some kind of angle where you could ask Jack/Jim/Bill to give you the wrong answers that were given, but at that point the question was only worth the normal value, or some such? Or am I high on crack? [/quote]
I think answering with no help added $100 to the regular value of the category but if the emcee supplied the two wrong answers given when the question was initially posed, it was worth regular board value. Or I could have spent too much time at the crack pipe myself.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 2 2004, 12:08 AM\'] [quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Aug 1 2004, 09:23 PM\']
Stumpers (questions missed by both players on a previous show)
And like the Mystery Category, questions there were worth double value.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
Wasn't there some kind of angle where you could ask Jack/Jim/Bill to give you the wrong answers that were given, but at that point the question was only worth the normal value, or some such? Or am I high on crack? [/quote]
I seem to recall that the category value doubled; but; as you stated; was cut in half if you got the wrong answers.
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I don't know any other details, but I remember one question, where Bill C. gave the contestants one city (Oil City) and asked the contestants how many other cities they'd need to hear to identify the state they're all in. Lowest bid got the question. I believe a miss would've resulted in the other contestant hearing the entire list.
(I'm a little fuzzy on those details; I was doubled over in laughter for the duration of the question, seeing how I grew up in Oil City. :) Bill said he knew it off of Oil City, as well. I'm sure that's enough info for some of you to figure it out, if you so desire.)
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I have a Cullen-era ep with a "How Low can you go?" category. What Bill would do would give one answer by default, and each contestant would bid back and forth how many additional answers they would need to answer the question. For example: Let's say a contestant thinks they could know it in three answers and got "Granny Smith, Johnathan, Golden Delicious". (Obviously, they're all kinds of apples.)
Not sure if it was around during the Barry era, or even if it was used more than once... was a unique category, for sure.
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How about these other special categories.
Face Off
Just One More
Contract
Choose Your Clues
Fact or Foto
Does anyone know the rules for these 5 categories?
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[quote name=\'trivia202003\' date=\'Aug 2 2004, 10:18 AM\'] Fact or Foto
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My memory tells me that the contestant was either offered a factoid, or a picture relating to a person or thing, and the contestant had to correctly answer based on that.
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Stumpers: Originally, it was $100 extra with no options and you didn't hear the wrong answers. During Bill Cullen's term, the option of hearing the wrong answers for the amount on the board was offered.
And the low-bid category was called How Low Can You Go?
And no red boxes, which kept Jim Caldwell from ever doing "TJW."
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There was also Grab Bag, where all questions were multiple choice (a la the tail end of the CBS run and part of the 1st syndie season).
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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The Mystery category (if you took that and were correct, you got double the bucks)
Some of those special categories weren't on every wheel either. For example, when the syndie "Joker" premiered in '77, whenever Mystery came up there was a slide on every wheel. Shortly thereafter, whenever Jack was doing the final spin senario, he always said something to the effect of "...or you'll need the Mystery category and two Jokers..."
That seemed to indicate they only put in on one wheel. If you watch those particular episodes closely enough, you'll notice it does only pop up in one window. I wonder if they thought having a contestant have to pick Mystery for $400 (if they got a natural triple) was too much of a disadvantage. I don't know if this was the same for the other special categories or not.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Aug 2 2004, 12:10 AM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 2 2004, 12:08 AM\'] [quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Aug 1 2004, 09:23 PM\']
Stumpers (questions missed by both players on a previous show)
And like the Mystery Category, questions there were worth double value.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
Wasn't there some kind of angle where you could ask Jack/Jim/Bill to give you the wrong answers that were given, but at that point the question was only worth the normal value, or some such? Or am I high on crack? [/quote]
I think answering with no help added $100 to the regular value of the category but if the emcee supplied the two wrong answers given when the question was initially posed, it was worth regular board value. Or I could have spent too much time at the crack pipe myself. [/quote]
Stumpers came out during Jack's final season on TJW. If the category was chosen, the player can answer a question for $150, $200 or $300 on that category, depending on the spin of the wheels. The rule of this category I believed changed during the Bill Cullen era.
Other special categories played over the years:
Mystery(?) -- If selected, a player can answer a question for double the value ($100, $200 or $400, depending on the spin). Players have to listen to that rule carefully because one contestant took Mystery for $200, and Jack said "well, you can actually take it for $400," and the judge ruled that the first choice for $200 has to be taken. Jack obviously was not very happy about that incident (after all, its his show), and I think the player was invited back because he lost the game.
Bid -- played like the Bullseye Contract, players bid on how many questions he/she can answer, with the minimum of two questions. Can be used for catching up if behind.
Fast Foward -- Among the first special categories used, players can answer as many questions as he/she wishes; another good catch-up category to use.
Fact or Foto -- A question is asked and the player decide whether to answer the question with a fact, or be shown a photograph. I think there is a bonus involved with this category.
Multiple Choice -- Potluck questions with three possible answers, and the contestants chooses which one he/she thinks is the correct answer.
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No one's actually explained Fast Forward in full yet:
A question is asked as usual. However, if a correct answer is given, the contestant may elect to end his or her turn, or risk the money earned so far during the turn by hearing (and having to answer) another question. Repeat until the contestant stops, gets a wrong answer, or is beaten about the head and shoulders by Jack Barry for not stopping after having earned enough to win the match.
I want to say that, in the event of a wrong answer, the opponent would be given an opportunity to answer, but not to hear any additional questions. But I'm not 100% confident in my memory on that point.
I've probably related this story before, but I would still kill just to see a clip of the contestant who needed at least $300 on his turn to stay in the game. Jack: "You need three Jokers, or the Fast Forward category, OR you can take any Jokers off the board for Fast Forward. Remember, if you don't get three Jokers, you HAVE to play Fast Forward to stay in the game." Contestant spins, gets something like World Leaders, Joker, Joker.
"I'll take World Leaders for $200, Jack."
Oh, he was so pleased with himself. Until Jack, as gently as Jack could, explained to him that he'd basically just forfeited the game. "I'm sorry, but now that you've said it, we have to accept it . . ."
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Aug 7 2004, 07:10 PM\'] I want to say that, in the event of a wrong answer, the opponent would be given an opportunity to answer, but not to hear any additional questions. [/quote]
That is correct. Otherwise, the two could end up playing that Fast Forward category back and forth for the entire game. Plus, the contestant the question was passed over to would get only the value of that one question if correct. It was with this category that future Barry & Enright Productions employee Byron Wilson won his 5th game. It was by answering ten $50 Fast Forward questions.
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I still have the episode where Linda Parker also did the same thing that is answering 10 $50 Fast Forward questions on tape.
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Well, bully for you, Iris. Apparently, it's happened more than a few times, I recall someone ELSE winning a car with FF Science. I was shocked that someone would go for the win on the first spin.
Back to an earlier question, why would Mystery Category for $400 be a disadvantage to the player who spun it? It's the most you could possibly get on one spin. Unless you're thinking about what happens when he misses...
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[quote name=\'irismason42\' date=\'Aug 7 2004, 09:21 PM\'] I still have the episode where Linda Parker also did the same thing that is answering 10 $50 Fast Forward questions on tape. [/quote]
I wonder. How was the research staff able to come up with 10 questions about tape?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Aug 7 2004, 07:30 PM\'] Back to an earlier question, why would Mystery Category for $400 be a disadvantage to the player who spun it? It's the most you could possibly get on one spin. Unless you're thinking about what happens when he misses... [/quote]
That's absolutely what they're thinking of. Think of the number of times you've seen a player take a category for $50 when they could have had it for $100 or $200 because they only needed the $50 and flubbing it wouldn't give the opponent enough to win.
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For the Stumpers category (not Mystery), contestants could choose to answer the question for *double the amount spun* (a triple spin would be worth $400) or for the regular amount, Jack or Bill or Jim would read the answers given by both contestants on the previous show.
I just watched it, so unless I'm on crack, I think this is right.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Aug 7 2004, 09:36 PM\'] [quote name=\'irismason42\' date=\'Aug 7 2004, 09:21 PM\'] I still have the episode where Linda Parker also did the same thing that is answering 10 $50 Fast Forward questions on tape. [/quote]
I wonder. How was the research staff able to come up with 10 questions about tape? [/quote]
Host: This kind of tape has a duck on the package.
Contestant: Duct tape
Host: Correct, $50!
Host: This kind of tape says "Scotch" on the label.
Contestant: Scotch tape
Host: Correct, $100....
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' date=\'Aug 8 2004, 08:14 AM\'] For the Stumpers category (not Mystery), contestants could choose to answer the question for *double the amount spun* (a triple spin would be worth $400) or for the regular amount, Jack or Bill or Jim would read the answers given by both contestants on the previous show.
I just watched it, so unless I'm on crack, I think this is right. [/quote]
I'll back you up on that, Mitch, I'm pretty sure this is exactly how it played out. :)
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There must have been a rule change on Stumpers. I clearly remember seeing it taken for $150.
I remember one other special category, Take a Chance. The questions were multiple choice, and you could either answer the question yourself or force your opponent to answer it. If the person who answered was wrong, the other player automatically got the money as if answering it correctly.
I also remember this happening with Fast Forward: The challenger reached $500 on her own question, and the champion had less than $300. He did not get three jokers, but he got at least one. Jack said it was all over as soon as the first non-Joker came up, even though the champion could have gone off the board to take Fast Forward and possibly won.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Aug 9 2004, 12:41 AM\'] I also remember this happening with Fast Forward: The challenger reached $500 on her own question, and the champion had less than $300. He did not get three jokers, but he got at least one. Jack said it was all over as soon as the first non-Joker came up, even though the champion could have gone off the board to take Fast Forward and possibly won. [/quote]
Then Jack made a major boo-boo or a rule change was made because I remember twice during the first season when the champ could only get Fast Forward to stay in the game (or three jokers, of course) and Jack told him so before the spin.
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My memory tells me that the contestant was either offered a factoid, or a picture relating to a person or thing, and the contestant had to correctly answer based on that.
And if a player gave an incorrect answer, the opponent would get both the fact AND the photo on his/her free guess.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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I wonder. How was the research staff able to come up with 10 questions about tape?
LOL...but don't complain too much, at least the comment was mainly coherent this time. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Thinking about this, it's not really surprising that anyone could rip off 10 correcxt answers on ANY topic, considering the typical difficulty level of the questions.
On that note, I am downright shocked that there was ever one question that both players managed to miss.
"We'll give you three different clues to the correct answer, and if you listen closely, the answer might actually be in the question. For $50..."
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Aug 8 2004, 12:20 PM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Aug 7 2004, 09:36 PM\'] [quote name=\'irismason42\' date=\'Aug 7 2004, 09:21 PM\'] I still have the episode where Linda Parker also did the same thing that is answering 10 $50 Fast Forward questions on tape. [/quote]
I wonder. How was the research staff able to come up with 10 questions about tape? [/quote]
Host: This kind of tape has a duck on the package.
Contestant: Duct tape
Host: Correct, $50!
Host: This kind of tape says "Scotch" on the label.
Contestant: Scotch tape
Host: Correct, $100.... [/quote]
And what's really sad is that real Barry & Enright questions were about the same caliber as those. :-)