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Title: Dead formats?
Post by: ITSBRY on July 09, 2004, 12:18:31 PM
What formats do you think are permanently dead?  Meaning...what do you think is such an antiquated format that it will never be revived for TV again?  Now, of course you get into a gray area here with format updates, but I'm talking the pure original format.

I'm gonna say TTTT.  I was really surprised when Fremantle revived this one recently.  I never saw the most current version as it didn't run in the Indy market, but given it's early demise I think it's most likely gone for a very long time if not for good.

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: zachhoran on July 09, 2004, 12:21:09 PM
[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 11:18 AM\']
I'm gonna say TTTT.  I was really surprised when Fremantle revived this one recently.  I never saw the most current version as it didn't run in the Indy market, but given it's early demise I think it's most likely gone for a very long time if not for good.

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com [/quote]
 TTTT2k lasted longer than the 1980-81 and 1990-91 versions did, but just barely(got axed halfway through its second season in early 2002). If history holds true, expect the next version in 2010, complete with 100-year-old Kitty Carlisle cameo.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: TV Favorites on July 09, 2004, 12:33:26 PM
I think it's safe to say that the "You're in the Picture" is a dead format...it was never alive to being with. ;)
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: adamjk on July 09, 2004, 01:08:31 PM
I think, and no offense to Randy or anything, but I think Match Game is a dead format. People don't have inhibitions anymore. I mean people no longer want to come up with clever ways to fill in that blank. They immediately go for the dirty jokes. MG 98 proved it.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: JayC on July 09, 2004, 01:44:28 PM
Probably anything that involves guessing a secret talent.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: BrandonFG on July 09, 2004, 02:45:43 PM
[quote name=\'JayC\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 12:44 PM\'] Probably anything that involves guessing a secret talent. [/quote]
 I was going to say What's My Line or I've Got A Secret. I just don't think today's viewers have the attention span for such a thing...then again, with reality shows, people LOVE looking into other people's lives.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: Winkfan on July 09, 2004, 05:35:11 PM
...with reality shows, people LOVE looking into other people's lives.
So how come there's no clamoring for a revival of It Could Be You?

You can also count 'musical identification' games as another 'dead format.'

Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Susan Stafford of the Big Board!'
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: rmfromfla on July 09, 2004, 06:37:59 PM
What?   No revival planned of "How's Your Mother In-Law?"
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: GPeefalt on July 09, 2004, 07:24:38 PM
Any "Win 5 games and you get a new car" format.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: 76GMC on July 09, 2004, 09:42:58 PM
Rayburn opened the first MGHS as a "marriage" of two games.  Like SOOOOO many Hollywood marriages (cough) *J-Lo* (/cough), it lasted less than a year.  Ditto with the DG/NG from 1996-97.  Two different games just don't work well together in the same show.

And speaking of marriages, "Tattletales" won't be coming back.  Like MG, it's success dwindled as time went on.  Towards the end of its run, it was harder to find couples--and that was 20 years ago!!  Given how PC thinking has saturated our environment, I can't think of any couple who would do it now.

Rick
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: alfonzos on July 10, 2004, 12:03:55 PM
I don't see Concentration ever coming back. It's too slow. Pity.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: The Ol' Guy on July 10, 2004, 04:54:42 PM
Along with the music games, I'd dare to venture Tic Tac Dough had dirt thrown on it for the last time in '90. Straight Q&A tic tac toe with the constant ties - could anyone see the format coming back as we've known it? I don't even think "mo' money" would help.  Some game could come along where players may have to capture three, four or five game spaces in a row on a board, like a Pente-type game, but I'd be hard pressed to imagine some type of a straight q & a game to capture the squares.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: rugrats1 on July 10, 2004, 06:05:58 PM
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I'd dare to venture Tic Tac Dough had dirt thrown on it for the last time in '90. Straight Q&A tic tac toe with the constant ties - could anyone see the format coming back as we've known it? I don't even think "mo' money" would help.

Maybe Ken Jennings' winning streak on Jeopardy might motivate some producers to revive Q&A shows like TTD, or invent similar shows. The way things are going, anything can happen in the long run.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: Ian Wallis on July 12, 2004, 09:50:47 AM
One format I'm not sure would work again would be the oringal "Password".  In watching the '60s episodes on GSN, I'm not sure it would captivate an audience today.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: uncamark on July 12, 2004, 06:38:35 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 01:45 PM\'][quote name=\'JayC\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 12:44 PM\'] Probably anything that involves guessing a secret talent. [/quote]
I was going to say What's My Line or I've Got A Secret. I just don't think today's viewers have the attention span for such a thing...then again, with reality shows, people LOVE looking into other people's lives.[/quote]
Meanwhile, Oxygen got 130 shows out of the "IGAS" format and are still rerunning them early in the morning.  Of course, that's cable--I'm doubtful myself if panel formats can ever be revived.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: zachhoran on July 12, 2004, 06:52:06 PM
[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Jul 10 2004, 05:05 PM\']
Maybe Ken Jennings' winning streak on Jeopardy might motivate some producers to revive Q&A shows like TTD, or invent similar shows. The way things are going, anything can happen in the long run. [/quote]
 There's a somewhat slighter chance GSN would bring TTD back to the schedule. COnsidering now that Alex mentioned Thom and TTD, this would be a good a time as ever to revisit those long-term TTD champions' runs. Though this is GSN(old or new) we're talking about.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: chris319 on July 12, 2004, 06:56:51 PM
I think Treasure Isle will remain dead and buried for the rest of eternity.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: aaron sica on July 12, 2004, 07:44:33 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 12 2004, 06:52 PM\'] There's a somewhat slighter chance GSN would bring TTD back to the schedule. COnsidering now that Alex mentioned Thom and TTD, this would be a good a time as ever to revisit those long-term TTD champions' runs. Though this is GSN(old or new) we're talking about. [/quote]
 This actually makes a lot of sense to me........While it's been pointed out that Ken Jennings is attracting TONS of attention from people who don't even *watch* game shows, if they are old enough to remember Thom McKee (who also did the same with the attention thing), they may look fondly on those days and perhaps seeing him again would be a bit of an interest...

I think it makes lots of sense for GSN to put back TTD, or even show some eps with him as a special...

I also am a realist, however. Would it be a great idea? Yes. Would GSN actually do it? No.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: rugrats1 on July 12, 2004, 08:52:30 PM
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I think Treasure Isle will remain dead and buried for the rest of eternity.

Not necessarily -- that show was, more or less, ahead of its time. Today's reality shows are either along the same vein as Treasure Isle, or use some teamwork elements similar to what was used on that show.

Also, "Fort Boyard", the pan-European hit game show, is practically similar to Treasure Isle, in which contestants complete stunts and solve puzzles to get points. The only difference is that Fort Boyard is a real place and "Treasure Isle" is not.
Title: Dead formats?
Post by: MCArroyo1 on July 12, 2004, 10:32:29 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jul 12 2004, 06:44 PM\'] I also am a realist, however. Would it be a great idea? Yes. Would GSN actually do it? No. [/quote]
 Maybe I'm not much of a realist.  But Ken has been appearing all over the media lately, and thousands of people know his name.  If any television network should try to capitalize on this "Jeopardy!" craze, then I think GSN is it...