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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Sunfox on May 11, 2004, 04:16:49 AM
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So, on Friday TPIR gets interrupted at about the 45 minute mark for CBS' "Special News Report". I'm mildly annoyed. Why couldn't they wait 15 mintues? But such is "special" news.
At any rate, the news keeps going and going. NBC desides to preempt Hollywood Squares (which immediatly follows TPIR). And then they preempt Family Feud. Now I'm getting more annoyed. No real gameshows for the day.
So, Monday comes around. I'm watching my tape of that day's TPIR, and all is going well. Then, at the 53 minute mark, right during the description of the second showcase, what should cut in but CBS' "Special News Report". They couldn't wait 7 minutes? Oh, joy! Now I'm *really* annoyed.
So, I move on to my tape of Hollywood Squares. Gadzooks - news! But at least they cut back to their "regularly scheduled program" at the 9 minute mark, leaving me with about 15 minutes of show to watch (the NBC affiliate has a nasty habit of running their local news 1 to 5 minutes into Hollywood Squares on even normal days, which urks me to no end). Plus, at least I have an untouched Family Feud.
If I see that blasted "Special News Report" banner ONE more time this week, I'm going to scream!
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If they waited until after Price, they'd be cutting into the affiliates' noon-hour newscasts, at least in the eastern time zone. And except in Detroit, where they'd be interrupting Millionaire. In any event, that's affiliate time, not network time.
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[quote name=\'Sunfox\' date=\'May 11 2004, 03:16 AM\'] So, on Friday TPIR gets interrupted at about the 45 minute mark for CBS' "Special News Report". I'm mildly annoyed. Why couldn't they wait 15 mintues? But such is "special" news.
At any rate, the news keeps going and going. NBC desides to preempt Hollywood Squares (which immediatly follows TPIR). And then they preempt Family Feud. Now I'm getting more annoyed. No real gameshows for the day.
So, Monday comes around. I'm watching my tape of that day's TPIR, and all is going well. Then, at the 53 minute mark, right during the description of the second showcase, what should cut in but CBS' "Special News Report". They couldn't wait 7 minutes? Oh, joy! Now I'm *really* annoyed.
So, I move on to my tape of Hollywood Squares. Gadzooks - news! But at least they cut back to their "regularly scheduled program" at the 9 minute mark, leaving me with about 15 minutes of show to watch (the NBC affiliate has a nasty habit of running their local news 1 to 5 minutes into Hollywood Squares on even normal days, which urks me to no end). Plus, at least I have an untouched Family Feud.
If I see that blasted "Special News Report" banner ONE more time this week, I'm going to scream! [/quote]
You're about to be told by some people in so many words that what Bush or Rumsfeld has to say(even if we might think of them as CHuckleheads) is more important than a game show. That debate has been going on in this online game show community since at least the outbreak of the Monica Lewinsky affair.
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Here we get TPIR and H2 back to back on the CBS station. So I recognize both of those points. Actually, we were interrupted during the third game for a local news story.
BTW, CBS here no longer has a noon news. Instead they have a 4PM news.
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As much as the information is usually much more important than game shows- game shows aren't the end-all to everything...it is VERY annoying to have the show interrupted in the last 7 minutes. But, this is how things are.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:15 AM\'] You're about to be told by some people in so many words that what Bush or Rumsfeld has to say(even if we might think of them as CHuckleheads) is more important than a game show. That debate has been going on in this online game show community since at least the outbreak of the Monica Lewinsky affair. [/quote]
There are some who think of you as a chucklehead, Zach, but I wouldn't pre-empt a game show for you. :-)
Seriously, I don't care who's in the White House: a presidential press conference is news, especially when the nation is at war -- and as such it takes precedence. A severe weather alert also fits into this category. Thad Dixon and his ilk may think the entire world should grind to a halt so they don't miss their precious Showcase, but some of us actually give a rip about what's happening outside of the game show realm as well as within it. We can always watch missed shows later -- that's why God created reruns.
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Look at it as a compliment to game shows. News bulletins during game shows at least assures there will be an audience watching. You don't see them cutting into infomercials, do you?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 11 2004, 09:55 AM\'] Look at it as a compliment to game shows. News bulletins during game shows at least assures there will be an audience watching. You don't see them cutting into infomercials, do you? [/quote]
If the news breaks during an infomercial that's airing on a network station, they will :) But news, domestic news especially, happens between 8AM-8PM EST than 8PM-8AM EST.
I would break-in to a game show for a press conference or other national or world news. I would NOT do it for a sports-based story(Philly stations have done this a few times) or to report on a celeb's legal troubles.
But what I'd REALLY like to see is the Squares finale on 6/4 getting preempted for some news at the local or national level, just to see the pissing matches certain posters will start over it
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[quote name=\'drmusic_99\' date=\'May 11 2004, 09:06 AM\'] If they waited until after Price, they'd be cutting into the affiliates' noon-hour newscasts, at least in the eastern time zone. And except in Detroit, where they'd be interrupting Millionaire. In any event, that's affiliate time, not network time. [/quote]
Yesterday's special report at 11:45 eastern ran right into our noon shows...WABC pushed back their newscast until it was done, and ran a half hour newscast, overlapping into Millionaire at 12:30...
When news breaks, and the networks feel it's worth sharing, whatever is on....newscast, game show, infomercial...it will get bumped. Sorry kids, but this is far more important than a Showcase.
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 09:17 AM\'] BTW, CBS here no longer has a noon news. Instead they have a 4PM news. [/quote]
KDKA, Pittsburgh's CBS affiliate, has the most local news of any station I've seen!
5AM-7AM: Morning News
9AM-10AM: KDKA Morning Show (news)
Noon-1230: Noon Report
4PM-7PM Evening News
11PM-1135PM: Nightly News
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[quote name=\'daveromanjr\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:11 AM\'] KDKA, Pittsburgh's CBS affiliate, has the most local news of any station I've seen!
5AM-7AM: Morning News
9AM-10AM: KDKA Morning Show (news)
Noon-1230: Noon Report
4PM-7PM Evening News
11PM-1135PM: Nightly News [/quote]
That probably says a lot about the current crop of syndicated shows, be they game shows, talk shows, or other, if they think their best ratings bet is to go with so much news. Most of the rest of their daytime lineup would be filled out by CBS's shows, yes?
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[quote name=\'rigsby\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:15 AM\'] [quote name=\'daveromanjr\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:11 AM\'] KDKA, Pittsburgh's CBS affiliate, has the most local news of any station I've seen!
5AM-7AM: Morning News
9AM-10AM: KDKA Morning Show (news)
Noon-1230: Noon Report
4PM-7PM Evening News
11PM-1135PM: Nightly News [/quote]
That probably says a lot about the current crop of syndicated shows, be they game shows, talk shows, or other, if they think their best ratings bet is to go with so much news. Most of the rest of their daytime lineup would be filled out by CBS's shows, yes? [/quote]
Save for 10AM-11AM EST and/or 3-4PM EST(if they air Guiding Light at 10AM EST as a few other cities do), probably so(unless KDKA doesn't air one of the CBS soaps, but most likely they air them all)
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:05 AM\'] [quote name=\'drmusic_99\' date=\'May 11 2004, 09:06 AM\'] If they waited until after Price, they'd be cutting into the affiliates' noon-hour newscasts, at least in the eastern time zone. And except in Detroit, where they'd be interrupting Millionaire. In any event, that's affiliate time, not network time. [/quote]
Yesterday's special report at 11:45 eastern ran right into our noon shows...WABC pushed back their newscast until it was done, and ran a half hour newscast, overlapping into Millionaire at 12:30...
When news breaks, and the networks feel it's worth sharing, whatever is on....newscast, game show, infomercial...it will get bumped. Sorry kids, but this is far more important than a Showcase. [/quote]
So, the news got interrupted for news?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:29 AM\']
So, the news got interrupted for news? [/quote]
Yep. Bled right into our newscast seamlessly.
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Sometimes, news just happens:
How did the Exxon Valdez know it was the last day for $otC ?
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'daveromanjr\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:11 AM\'][quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 09:17 AM\'] BTW, CBS here no longer has a noon news. Instead they have a 4PM news. [/quote]
KDKA, Pittsburgh's CBS affiliate, has the most local news of any station I've seen!
5AM-7AM: Morning News
9AM-10AM: KDKA Morning Show (news)
Noon-1230: Noon Report
4PM-7PM Evening News
11PM-1135PM: Nightly News[/quote]
Several of the larger Fox affiliates (especially those acquired in the Mid-90's from New World) Have quite a bit of news as well.For Instance, WJW Fox 8 in Cleveland airs on weekdays:
5-9 Fox 8 News This Morning
12:12:30 Fox 8 News at Noon
5-6 Fox 8 News at 5
6-7 Fox 8 News at 6
10-11 Fox 8 News at 10
The same pattern repeats itself in Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago, LA where Fox owns their affiliates..Of course, they dont have game shows either..
Tim Lones
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'May 11 2004, 12:03 PM\'] [quote name=\'daveromanjr\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:11 AM\'][quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 09:17 AM\'] BTW, CBS here no longer has a noon news. Instead they have a 4PM news. [/quote]
KDKA, Pittsburgh's CBS affiliate, has the most local news of any station I've seen!
5AM-7AM: Morning News
9AM-10AM: KDKA Morning Show (news)
Noon-1230: Noon Report
4PM-7PM Evening News
11PM-1135PM: Nightly News[/quote]
Several of the larger Fox affiliates (especially those acquired in the Mid-90's from New World) Have quite a bit of news as well.For Instance, WJW Fox 8 in Cleveland airs on weekdays:
5-9 Fox 8 News This Morning
12:12:30 Fox 8 News at Noon
5-6 Fox 8 News at 5
6-7 Fox 8 News at 6
10-11 Fox 8 News at 10
The same pattern repeats itself in Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago, LA where Fox owns their affiliates..Of course, they dont have game shows either..
Tim Lones [/quote]
Actually, Chicago has only the morning (5-9am) and noon (12-1pm) news hours, along with a 4:55pm news break. Then we have the 9-10pm news. No game shows have aired on WFLD since the Sherwood Dating Game!
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[quote name=\'rigsby\' date=\'May 11 2004, 08:15 AM\'] [quote name=\'daveromanjr\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:11 AM\'] KDKA, Pittsburgh's CBS affiliate, has the most local news of any station I've seen!
5AM-7AM: Morning News
9AM-10AM: KDKA Morning Show (news)
Noon-1230: Noon Report
4PM-7PM Evening News
11PM-1135PM: Nightly News [/quote]
That probably says a lot about the current crop of syndicated shows, be they game shows, talk shows, or other, if they think their best ratings bet is to go with so much news. Most of the rest of their daytime lineup would be filled out by CBS's shows, yes? [/quote]
One of KDKA's staffers told a group I was in that they were the first non-24-hour-news station to have a 4:00 newscast, and that they were very pleased with the results (i.e., ratings). But hey, even *they* found a spot for H2. :)
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Swinging to the *other* side of the broadcast day, I find it neat how start times for the local morning news keep getting earlier and earlier. The earliest I've seen is WMAR-2 (ABC) from Baltimore, which starts their local news at 4:55 a.m.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'May 11 2004, 11:27 AM\'] Sometimes, news just happens:
How did the Exxon Valdez know it was the last day for $otC ? [/quote]
Was *that* the reason for the Dubya Sr. press briefing that day? I thought it was something less significant than that as CBS didn't bother to break into FF, and ABC stayed to the best of my knowledge with their local programming.
Doug -- and the countdown to 500 continues
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A thought that dawned on me when I found out that two of the Detroit stations were doing Apprentice-like things* during their NEWScasts -- namely that stations no longer have any place to do local content other than news. Since the increasing stranglehold of the affilliates by the networks, locals can no longer pull a weak performer out of the network lineup and show something in its place. The only place day-in, day-out that is your own station's identity is your newscast, so you might as well show it as much as you can, as long as it's profitable (I don't think a 2:30 PM newscast would fly).
The other reason probably for the incredible amount of news is that very few people catch all two hours (or three, or whatever) of the block the station has, so you essentially have the Headline News effect of a small newscast broadcast several times.
It's a shame, really. I've never understood why if Station A had a noon news, why doesn't Station B have it at 11:30 and Station C at 12:30. Or why ET and Access Hollywood run against each other.
*One station is having a locally famous lawyer pick his intern. The second station is actually picking an on-air reporter. Thank God Detroit is such a utopian paradise that such things as crime, race wars, a declining job base or a crumbling infrastructure don't exist here so that we have all this extra free time during the news.
--Mike
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I can speak for Dallas.
Fox 4:
5-9AM Good Day Dallas.
12-1230 noon news
5-630 evening newscast
9-1030 evening newscast
KXAS (NBC 5) has had a 4PM newscast for a few years. Before that, WFAA (ABC affiliate) had a 430 newscast in the 80s.
Oh yeah, Fox does air game shows here......but on their other station (KDFI 27).
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 02:30 PM\'] I can speak for Dallas.
Fox 4:
5-9AM Good Day Dallas.
12-1230 noon news
5-630 evening newscast
9-1030 evening newscast
KXAS (NBC 5) has had a 4PM newscast for a few years. Before that, WFAA (ABC affiliate) had a 430 newscast in the 80s.
Oh yeah, Fox does air game shows here......but on their other station (KDFI 27). [/quote]
I remember WTKR getting rid of Family Feud to do a 4:30 newscast. This was early-1995, but the newscast didn't make it past fall of that year.
As far as local news, I think WVEC wins...in addition to the standard newscasts (6-9 am, noon-1 pm, 5-6:30 pm, and 11-11:35 pm), they also have a sister station, LNC (Local News on Cable), which is 24-hours of WVEC newscasts of the day (updated after a "fresh" newscast, with an hour-long newscast at 10 pm.
Norfolk has also experimented with 10 pm newscasts; in addition to LNC, WTKR tried a 10-10:30 newscast, which was aired on WGNT (UPN affil.) c. 1995, but it didn't fly. WVBT (FOX affil.) has had a little more success; their 10 pm newscast debuted in summer 1998, and expanded to an hour c. 2001 or 2002.
ObGameShows: WVEC aired Hollywood Squares (occasionally pre-empted for weather coverage) at 5:30 pm, before deciding to do a 90-minute news block in 2000.
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I remember WTKR getting rid of Family Feud to do a 4:30 newscast. This was early-1995, but the newscast didn't make it past fall of that year.
That's surprising - I haven't heard of very many newscasts actually being cancelled. A lot of people think of talk shows or soaps as the main reasons for the decline of game shows, but in a lot of cases it was News. Back in the late '80s some stations began experimenting with full afternoon newscasts - sometimes running 4-6 p.m., then having the regular 6 p.m. news, then the network news at 6:30. Once proved successful, this pratice started spreading to a lot of other stations.
While I think that News is definately important, I always wondered why a station would need a solid three-hour block of it. I guess ratings must have proved it to be viable.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'May 11 2004, 03:06 PM\']
While I think that News is definately important, I always wondered why a station would need a solid three-hour block of it. I guess ratings must have proved it to be viable. [/quote]
The answer is simple : revenue. If we air a half hour syndicated show, we have to split the ad time with the syndicator. If we air a half hour news show, we get all the ads, and hence, all the revenue...
My station has added 7 hours of news weekly in the last year and a half....totalling 6 hours a day.... Too much? Maybe for some. Profitable? You better believe it...
Matt
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 02:30 PM\'] I can speak for Dallas.
Fox 4:
5-9AM Good Day Dallas.
12-1230 noon news
5-630 evening newscast
9-1030 evening newscast
KXAS (NBC 5) has had a 4PM newscast for a few years. Before that, WFAA (ABC affiliate) had a 430 newscast in the 80s.
Oh yeah, Fox does air game shows here......but on their other station (KDFI 27). [/quote]
Right, and me also being from Dallas, I know that KTVT (CBS 11) shelved the Noon news earlier this year.
I'll do the schedule.
5-7 AM: CBS 11 Early Show
4-5 PM: CBS 11 News at 4:00
5-5:30 PM: CBS 11 News at 5:00
6-6:30 PM: CBS 11 News at 6:00 (From 1999-2000, they had a 6:30 newscast)
10-10:35 PM: CBS 11 News at 10:00 (Formerly "11 on 11")
Anyway, back on topic.
I, too, have had enough of these break-ins. If they really have important news, please, USE THE TICKERS. It's SO MUCH EASIER, and it makes viewers happier.
If it's severe weather, put a radar near the ticker, and if it's a news conference, put a pic of the news conference near the ticker, so that the viewers aren't missing a beat of any game show, etc. They can get their news AND watch their favorite show at the same time.
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Ya know, gsg2000, the screwy thing is that 4PM has been cancelled once in favor of "Millionaire" and H2.
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Here in NY, WCBS was always an innovator as far as local news goes...they were the first in the area to launch a noon newscast back in 1987, the first after WABC to move network news from 7 to 6:30, and experimented w/the whole early afternoon news concept in early 1992 w/their "Ch. 2 First News", which aired at 4...it only lasted until Sep of that year, but paved the way for their current 4:30 newscast, launched in fall 01.
ObGameShow: Ch. 2 News at Noon replaced Strike it Rich, which was then exiled to the overnight graveyard.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'May 11 2004, 04:06 PM\'] That's surprising - I haven't heard of very many newscasts actually being cancelled. [/quote]
There have been plenty of newscasts canceled over the past few years; in fact, a number of stations have dropped all newscasts outright. And not just tiny-market indie stations, either -- one was the ABC affiliate in St. Louis.
Of course, there are also the Sinclair stations that dropped local news while pretending to keep it... oops, there I go editorializing again.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'May 11 2004, 08:40 PM\'] the first after WABC to move network news from 7 to 6:30 [/quote]
IIRC, the show that inherited the 7pm timeslot on WCBS after the network news moved to 6:30 was WLoD.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'May 11 2004, 01:34 PM\'] [quote name=\'Sunfox\' date=\'May 11 2004, 03:16 AM\'] If I see that blasted "Special News Report" banner ONE more time this week, I'm going to scream! [/quote]
Lose your gameshow centric-ways, and learn that there are more important things in the world....besides "Hollywood Squares". [/quote]
LOL, you must be on the wrong forum!
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A simple press briefing should be more than adequatly covered by a crawling line at the bottom of the screen until one of the myrid of news opportunities comes along. ESPECIALLY during a first-run show during the most important bit!
If I wanted news at 11:53AM, I'd be watching CNN, not CBS or NBC.
It's not like they don't have enough other opportunities to tell me about what's happening in the world, what with the local stations having 6 hours of news daily on NBC, 5.5 hours on CBS and 7 hours on ABC. Then there's Fox, with 0.0 hours of news - why can't they play gameshows? ;-)
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 04:55 PM\'] Ya know, gsg2000, the screwy thing is that 4PM has been cancelled once in favor of "Millionaire" and H2. [/quote]
I actually remember that.
And here's another thing: In Fall 2000, CBS 11 premiered the 4 PM newscast, and what's even better, is that it actually KEPT the Noon newscast, which debuted in 1996.
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'May 11 2004, 11:09 PM\'] [quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 04:55 PM\'] Ya know, gsg2000, the screwy thing is that 4PM has been cancelled once in favor of "Millionaire" and H2. [/quote]
I actually remember that.
And here's another thing: In Fall 2000, CBS 11 premiered the 4 PM newscast, and what's even better, is that it actually KEPT the Noon newscast, which debuted in 1996. [/quote]
Is this the noon newscast that replaced "Cosby Show" reruns on Channel 11?
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'May 11 2004, 04:07 PM\'] [quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'May 11 2004, 03:06 PM\']
While I think that News is definately important, I always wondered why a station would need a solid three-hour block of it. I guess ratings must have proved it to be viable. [/quote]
The answer is simple : revenue. If we air a half hour syndicated show, we have to split the ad time with the syndicator. If we air a half hour news show, we get all the ads, and hence, all the revenue...
My station has added 7 hours of news weekly in the last year and a half....totalling 6 hours a day.... Too much? Maybe for some. Profitable? You better believe it...
Matt [/quote]
We're really straying off topic, but since I kinda started it, it's worth pointing out... the CBS station I get, WWJ 62 Detroit -- a CBS O&O -- carries NO local news. All that time is filled with... yup, syndicated programming. Mostly courtroom shows, some game shows like Millionaire and H2... and the other half of the duopoly, WKBD 50 (UPN) carries only a 10pm newscast produced by ABC affiliate WXYZ. (I don't get WKBD, but I think they're the ones that carry Feud in Detroit.) So, the nation's 10th largest market is served by only three television news operations.
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My area's CBS affiliate(KYW-TV3) in Philadelphia dumped Millionaire in Fall '03 to make room for its hour-long affternoon news at the 4PM ET slot. It used to be on at 5PM but is now replaced by Dr.Phil(which used to be on at 3PM ET before it aqcuired Pyramid(originally at 4:30PM) & Inside Edition at that slot).
As far as the Sinclair stations go, I wonder how many other than the 8 Ohio stations to "dump" Nightline on April 30th as a "political agenda"? What bothers me is WHAT IS THAT AGENDA? GEEZ!
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As far as the Sinclair stations go, I wonder how many other than the 8 Ohio stations to "dump" Nightline on April 30th as a "political agenda"?
As far as I know, there's only two Sinclair ABC stations that serve any part of Ohio -- WSYX ch.6 in Columbus and, now, WKEF ch.22 in Dayton (who was among 3 Sinclair stations who were kicked out of NBC), plus WCHS ch.8 in Charleston.
the CBS station I get, WWJ 62 Detroit -- a CBS O&O -- carries NO local news. All that time is filled with... yup, syndicated programming.
And it was practically like thst since the end of 1995. WWJ-TV did have a newscast produced by WKBD in 2002 and/or 2003, but that ended when Viacom closed WKBD's news operations and decided to keep local news off WWJ-TV.
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(I don't get WKBD, but I think they're the ones that carry Feud in Detroit)
They do indeed
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'May 11 2004, 11:16 PM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'May 11 2004, 11:09 PM\'] [quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 04:55 PM\'] Ya know, gsg2000, the screwy thing is that 4PM has been cancelled once in favor of "Millionaire" and H2. [/quote]
I actually remember that.
And here's another thing: In Fall 2000, CBS 11 premiered the 4 PM newscast, and what's even better, is that it actually KEPT the Noon newscast, which debuted in 1996. [/quote]
Is this the noon newscast that replaced "Cosby Show" reruns on Channel 11? [/quote]
Yep. And out of curiosity, how'd you figure that out?
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[quote name=\'drmusic_99\' date=\'May 12 2004, 12:11 AM\'] the CBS station I get, WWJ 62 Detroit -- a CBS O&O -- carries NO local news. [/quote]
Which I find fascinating as WWJ Radio is one of the best all-news stations around.
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'May 12 2004, 10:17 AM\'] Yep. And out of curiosity, how'd you figure that out? [/quote]
I lived in Dallas during the mid-80s and still visit often. I remembered thinking it was odd that there wasn't a 12:00 news for a "big 3 station," and IIRC, Young and Restless was on at 11 am.
ObGameShow: The Y&R cast did Combs Feud a number of times.
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Just a reminder. Stations will do what they think is in their best interest. If they think they can make more money with news, they will do news. If they think they can make more money by showing rabbits having sex, get ready for the bunny hop. (And if you wonder how breaking into a sponsored program for unsponsored news can make the station money, remember that they're trying to lure viewers to their regular newscasts by showing how well they cover news). For ANY commercial station, programming is just the filler between the ads, and they want to get as many eyes on those ads as they can.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'May 11 2004, 07:40 PM\'] Here in NY, WCBS was always an innovator as far as local news goes...they were the first in the area to launch a noon newscast back in 1987, the first after WABC to move network news from 7 to 6:30, and experimented w/the whole early afternoon news concept in early 1992 w/their "Ch. 2 First News", which aired at 4...it only lasted until Sep of that year, but paved the way for their current 4:30 newscast, launched in fall 01. [/quote]
WCBS has "The People's Court" from 4-5pm, which is when their 90 minutes of blood and scare stories about how businesses are going to kill you comes on.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'May 12 2004, 10:38 AM\'] [quote name=\'drmusic_99\' date=\'May 12 2004, 12:11 AM\'] the CBS station I get, WWJ 62 Detroit -- a CBS O&O -- carries NO local news. [/quote]
Which I find fascinating as WWJ Radio is one of the best all-news stations around. [/quote]
Weren't WWJ the original call letters for the TV outlet now known as WDIV?
Doug -- and the countdown to 500 continues
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'May 12 2004, 10:53 AM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'May 12 2004, 10:17 AM\'] Yep. And out of curiosity, how'd you figure that out? [/quote]
I lived in Dallas during the mid-80s and still visit often. I remembered thinking it was odd that there wasn't a 12:00 news for a "big 3 station," and IIRC, Young and Restless was on at 11 am.
ObGameShow: The Y&R cast did Combs Feud a number of times. [/quote]
And during the late 40's to late 90's, the CBS affiliate was KDFW-4, until 1995, when it got Fox, and sent the CBS stuff to KTVT-11, which in Fall 1994, got B&B and TPIR, and the remaining CBS stuff went over there in Spring 1995.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'May 12 2004, 12:44 PM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'May 12 2004, 10:38 AM\'] [quote name=\'drmusic_99\' date=\'May 12 2004, 12:11 AM\'] the CBS station I get, WWJ 62 Detroit -- a CBS O&O -- carries NO local news. [/quote]
Which I find fascinating as WWJ Radio is one of the best all-news stations around. [/quote]
Weren't WWJ the original call letters for the TV outlet now known as WDIV?
Doug -- and the countdown to 500 continues [/quote]
Yes, Channel 4 was originally WWJ-TV and owned with the radio station by The Detroit News newspaper. When ordered to divest the TV station in 1978, the station was swapped with Post-Newsweek for a TV station in Washington D.C. (Channel 9, formerly WTOP). Channel 4 became WDIV at that time. The radio station ended up with Infinity some years later. Channel 62 was owned by the International Free and Accepted Modern Masons until 95 and had the call letters WGPR. CBS had to scramble to get an affiliate in Detroit after then New World-owned Channel 2 was absorbed by Fox. The only station they could get was WGPR and that was through the purchase of Channel 62. There really is no need for local news on 62. 2, 4 and 7 cover it quite well and are well-ingrained with the Detroit viewing public.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'May 11 2004, 08:00 PM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'May 11 2004, 04:06 PM\'] That's surprising - I haven't heard of very many newscasts actually being cancelled. [/quote]
There have been plenty of newscasts canceled over the past few years; in fact, a number of stations have dropped all newscasts outright. And not just tiny-market indie stations, either -- one was the ABC affiliate in St. Louis.
Of course, there are also the Sinclair stations that dropped local news while pretending to keep it... oops, there I go editorializing again.[/quote]
And guess who owns KDNL, the ABC station in St. Louis that got out of local news? That's right--Sinclair.
And on the last night at the end of the last newscast, you could see at the edge of the screen the uniformed security guards ready to escort the talent out of the station as soon as they went off the air.
What's the Point of that, Mark Hayman?
ObGameShow: The newscast was replaced by "TWL."
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KNBC used to have a 4pm news until Dr Phil came along. They ran Syndie WL at 3pm, leading into KNBC's 4pm news, that disappeared for Dr Phil.
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[quote name=\'Sunfox\' date=\'May 11 2004, 10:39 PM\'] [quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'May 11 2004, 01:34 PM\'] [quote name=\'Sunfox\' date=\'May 11 2004, 03:16 AM\'] If I see that blasted "Special News Report" banner ONE more time this week, I'm going to scream! [/quote]
Lose your gameshow centric-ways, and learn that there are more important things in the world....besides "Hollywood Squares". [/quote]
LOL, you must be on the wrong forum! [/quote]
Not really.
I just have a broader view of the world, I guess.