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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: bandit_bobby on April 22, 2004, 07:53:45 AM
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I just read tvgameshows.net this morning, and found out that GSN has acquired reruns of past episodes of Street Smarts. As for the current run, it's expected to return next season.
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As one who watches Street Smarts regularly, I'm happy to hear about both the likelihood of a new season and the GSN rerun purchase. I haven't been thrilled with GSN's new shows or its recent acquisitions so this will (for me at least) be an improvement.
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Not sure, but isn't the Prof a fan of Street Smarts? If so, I can see why GSN leaked this news to him. He's been grumbling about stuff like Kenny vs. Spenny and Spy TV. I guess we'll get a press release before too long.
From what I've seen of the show, it seemed pleasant, kinda goofy. Maybe GSN will strip the show at 11:00 or 11:30. PM, that is.
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[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 08:45 AM\'] Not sure, but isn't the Prof a fan of Street Smarts? If so, I can see why GSN leaked this news to him. He's been grumbling about stuff like Kenny vs. Spenny and Spy TV. I guess we'll get a press release before too long.
From what I've seen of the show, it seemed pleasant, kinda goofy. Maybe GSN will strip the show at 11:00 or 11:30. PM, that is. [/quote]
I believe he's become good friends with Frank Nicotero, so I'm guessing Frank might've given him at least a heads-up about the acquisition.
With all the comments about GSN's new direction, this might actually stop some of the complaints.
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I've thought for a while that Street Smarts would be a good acquisition for GSN. In theory, it should get a bit more of the young demographic that GSN and the rest of the TV world think is the only thing that matters, and it would fit in well late at night.
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Street Smarts is certainly a good acquisition for GSN. It reinforces their new focus, while appeasing those who like game shows. Granted, it's not the best out there, but it does successfully combine "reality" with a game.
It's also a great pickup because it's essentially new to a lot of people. Many stations aired this show in impossible to find overnight slots or on little-watched UHF stations or both.
I gotta give GSN mad props on this one.
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Add Sex Wars, based on the MGM/Sony posts on the board, and you'll have an interesting one-hour contemporary GSN late evening block.
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I could see this being a good early-evening show for GSN (maybe retire "Pyramid" reruns?). In many markets (including New York), "Street Smarts" has exclusively run in the overnight, so many people could be seeing these for the first time.
I really wouldn't think that this show is on the list of the Prof's favorites, but clearly he gets a kick out of it.
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I hadn't heard of the show until it's 2nd season. Even now with a prime-time spot on one of my local channels, it sometimes gets bumped to the middle of the night if the station airs a baseball or basketball game. So I'm expecting to see a lot of these reruns for the first time.
Of course if I wanted to get cynical, I'd predict that GSN will start by showing all the celebrity editions from all four years before getting into the regular episodes.
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That is good, but I am still waiting for Classic Concentration and NYSI '89 to both be on that cable channel.
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[quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 03:11 PM\'] That is good, but I am still waiting for Classic Concentration and NYSI '89 to both be on that cable channel. [/quote]
Don't hold your breath. :-)
From what it looks like, GSN is going for more recent and "edgier" or "hip" programming, prolly shows made within the last 5 years. More traditional games like CC and NYSI are apparently the opposite direction of what GSN wants.
Besides, supposedly Chuck Henry doesn't want his NYSI eps. to air, and I forget the ownership issue with Concentration.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:31 PM\'] [quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 03:11 PM\'] That is good, but I am still waiting for Classic Concentration and NYSI '89 to both be on that cable channel. [/quote]
Don't hold your breath. :-) [snip] ... I forget the ownership issue with Concentration. [/quote]
Concentration is an NBC property. Weakest Link didn't work on GSN, so why would CC?
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 03:37 PM\'] [quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:31 PM\'] [quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 03:11 PM\'] That is good, but I am still waiting for Classic Concentration and NYSI '89 to both be on that cable channel. [/quote]
Don't hold your breath. :-) [snip] ... I forget the ownership issue with Concentration. [/quote]
Concentration is an NBC property. Weakest Link didn't work on GSN, so why would CC? [/quote]
You're comparing apples and oranges. How are Classic Concentration and Weakest Link similar, outside of both airing on NBC?
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 03:37 PM\'] [quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:31 PM\'] [quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 03:11 PM\'] That is good, but I am still waiting for Classic Concentration and NYSI '89 to both be on that cable channel. [/quote]
Don't hold your breath. :-) [snip] ... I forget the ownership issue with Concentration. [/quote]
Concentration is an NBC property. Weakest Link didn't work on GSN, so why would CC? [/quote]
and just what makes you suggest that Weak Link on GSN doesn't work? It's still there isn't it?
This logic doesn't make sense without concrete proof, like a GSN exec saying "My God. We need to dump Weakest Link, but the FCC won't let us pull it without forfeiting our license."
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 05:17 PM\']This logic doesn't make sense without concrete proof, like a GSN exec saying "My God. We need to dump Weakest Link, but the FCC won't let us pull it without forfeiting our license."[/quote]
Cable networks don't require FCC licenses and aren't regulated by the FCC.
At least for now, since there have been rumbles in Washington about regulation for cable thanks to Nipplegate (which was produced by MTV, even if it did air on the broadcast CBS network). They'll probably die down after lots of National Cable Television Association lobbying money and the election in November.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Apr 27 2004, 04:44 PM\']
At least for now, since there have been rumbles in Washington about regulation for cable thanks to Nipplegate (which was produced by MTV, even if it did air on the broadcast CBS network). They'll probably die down after lots of National Cable Television Association lobbying money and the election in November. [/quote]
To regulate them how, exactly? Would it prevent certain shows that are currently airing from airing in the future (Graham Norton comes to mind)?
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Apr 27 2004, 05:27 PM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Apr 27 2004, 04:44 PM\']
At least for now, since there have been rumbles in Washington about regulation for cable thanks to Nipplegate (which was produced by MTV, even if it did air on the broadcast CBS network). They'll probably die down after lots of National Cable Television Association lobbying money and the election in November. [/quote]
To regulate them how, exactly? Would it prevent certain shows that are currently airing from airing in the future (Graham Norton comes to mind)?[/quote]
Well, no one's said anything concrete other than plain old political hot air, but I would imagine that the possibility of threats of heavy fines for indecency similar to what's been handed down to Clear Channel for Bubba the Love Sponge could be waved in the air.
The argument that cable has always had is that because you pay extra for the service, regulation for content was unnecessary--and for the most part, basic cable networks followed the network Program Practices books regarding indecency (it's the premium channels, which you haveto pay more for, that were raising the barriers initially). Some channels, like say CBN (Family), might be a little stricter, but everyone basically played the same rules as broadcast TV.
However, we've now had "South Park," "The Shield" and "Nip/Tuck," to name a few, raising the basic cable bar (or lowering it, depending on your view) for language/sex/violence. One could argue that MTV by itself has raised the bar higher than any other net. But thanks to fragmentation, nobody was paying much attention other than the professional nannies--until Super Bowl Sunday...
SortaObGameShow: "Fake-a-Date": The first GSN show with a TV rating higher than TV-PG.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Apr 27 2004, 05:50 PM\']
However, we've now had "South Park," "The Shield" and "Nip/Tuck," to name a few, raising the basic cable bar (or lowering it, depending on your view) for language/sex/violence. One could argue that MTV by itself has raised the bar higher than any other net. But thanks to fragmentation, nobody was paying much attention other than the professional nannies--until Super Bowl Sunday...
SortaObGameShow: "Fake-a-Date": The first GSN show with a TV rating higher than TV-PG. [/quote]
This is true - they seem to be caring less about the "decency" barrier anymore - as long as they can slap a TV-MA rating on it, they'll air anything :-)
It's one of the things that, I'm sorry to admit, actually shocked me the last time I was in Britain - I thought the fact that I was raised over there would have made me less of a prude about these things... but I got there, turned on the tv, and there was Graham Norton, and the first thing I heard was "and I sneezed, and he came through my nose". And my first reaction was "can you say that on tv???"
ObGs - check out the Naked Jungle pilot sometime.
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Apr 27 2004, 10:37 PM\'][It's one of the things that, I'm sorry to admit, actually shocked me the last time I was in Britain - I thought the fact that I was raised over there would have made me less of a prude about these things... but I got there, turned on the tv, and there was Graham Norton, and the first thing I heard was "and I sneezed, and he came through my nose". And my first reaction was "can you say that on tv???"[/quote]
Well, the Brits have had for a long time the so-called "watershed" after 9 p.m., which is their version of what we call the "safe harbor" where adult programming can be expected. Which doesn't stop the complaints to the regulatory authorities (many of them coming, I suspect, from members of Mediawatch UK, the organization founded by the late notorious prude and crusader against "filth" Mrs. Mary Whitehouse)--and on occasion even the authorities would say that something was out of bounds, even after the watershed. But one phrase from the bulletins of the now-merged Broadcasting Standards Commission continues to stand out from its frequent appearance in their decisions: "Considering the time slot, the incident did not exceed the expectations of viewers." (Add for BBC2, Channel 4 and Channel 5 shows "...on a minority-appeal channel..."--that's minority as in "not mass appeal," not racial.)
ObGameShow: ITV's brought back "WLOD" in a late-night slot, and from all indications, the material's a lot naughtier than what Burt Convy or the 90s British morning TV version ever did. My main interest is that Liza Tarbuck's hosting--and I've mentioned before that I like her work, since she seems to be about the only female TV "presenter" under 35 with a brain.