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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: cmjb13 on April 21, 2004, 03:46:31 PM
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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?t...storyID=4898038 (http://\"http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=industryNews&storyID=4898038\")
Wonder what this could mean for MGM game shows?
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Absolutely nothing, in all honesty. If GSN isn't going to air what they already have, what chance would most of the MGM shows have?
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:20 PM\'] Absolutely nothing, in all honesty. If GSN isn't going to air what they already have, what chance would most of the MGM shows have? [/quote]
My wild guess is that this could possibly put us closer to having reruns of Davidson HS again....
Take it for what it's worth....I LIKED Davidson HS. :-)
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 03:46 PM\'] [quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:20 PM\'] Absolutely nothing, in all honesty. If GSN isn't going to air what they already have, what chance would most of the MGM shows have? [/quote]
My wild guess is that this could possibly put us closer to having reruns of Davidson HS again....
Take it for what it's worth....I LIKED Davidson HS. :-) [/quote]
And as I have stated before, if they are to acquire any "classic", this would be the one...as people in the coveted demographic bracket would remember this version well.
What else does MGM have anyhow?
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"High Rollers" with Wink and maybe we could get MG/HS if all parties agree.
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That won't work, cause the late Gene Rayburn requested that they never air again.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:57 PM\'] That won't work, cause the late Gene Rayburn requested that they never air again. [/quote]
How much legal weight does a request carry exactly?
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 06:06 PM\'] [quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:57 PM\'] That won't work, cause the late Gene Rayburn requested that they never air again. [/quote]
How much legal weight does a request carry exactly? [/quote]
And wasn't it said that that was just a rumor based on Gene Wood's claim that Gene R. was "dragged kicking and screaming into the hour?"
Either way, it won't be back. If we can't get TJW, TTD, or even Bullseye on GSN, MG/HS won't be.
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Wasn't it in Gene's will? Is that the rumor, anyway?
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Somebody should do a website called "Game Show Urban Legends." Gene's on every night on MG posthumously, his work on MG/HS is just as good. Besides, why would someone who is deceased have any say on whether Jon Bauman's only network show can be supressed? The convoluted rights issue was the hangup and if Sony gets the MGM stuff, it is my feeling the issue can be rectified. The MG portion of the show isn't very far removed from the MG of old.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:47 PM\']
What else does MGM have anyhow? [/quote]
MGM has, besides the shows already mentioned, the rights to whatever Heatter-QUigley shows exist. GSN went to them to get the Marshall HS package they aired in 2002-03. In 1999, King World obtained the international format rights to the shows Heatter did after Quigley's retirement(not including High ROllers). MGM also packaged the ill fated Sex Wars in syndication in 2000.
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I don't see GSN, given current trends, running MG-HS, if they're able, as anything but a "Before They Were Stars" curio (i.e. the Jay Leno and Arsenio Hall episodes). Realistically, if GSN stopped running the Marshall Squares episodes because the celebrities weren't striking a chord with viewers, why would they run shows with these guys (http://\"http://www.chris-lambert.com/MG/EPS/MGHS.html\")?
Only other possibilities:
High Rollers back to back with Jeopardy! (Trebek then and now)
Magnificent Marble Machine if they run a bad show block
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Oh-oh..could be trouble...do I dare say I was one of the 32 people who actually liked Sex Wars? Not the most original concept, but the hosts did a nice job carrying the format, cheering on their teams, and keeping the delightfully cheesy show - ahem - lighthearted entertainment...
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:57 PM\'] That won't work, cause the late Gene Rayburn requested that they never air again. [/quote]
Urban legend if I ever heard one. We've been able to debunk that one within the last year or so. Those who have followed this legend should know (and if you don't, you will now........) Rayburn meant "Break the Bank '85". He DID want Game Show Channel (er......that's actually GSN) to air MGHSH. What's holding it up is the ownership issues.
Now......if Sony is able to buy out MGM and gets MGHSH in the deal, I would think it would be pretty easy to get some help from Fremantle's end, given their relationship.
Of course, MGM also has something called movies that Sony has gotten heavily into with various acquisitions. That might be the overriding reason. But this could end up being a nice little bonus for the GS fans.
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Wasn't All Star Blitz MGM? =)
j
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[quote name=\'mctoyboy\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 09:03 AM\'] Wasn't All Star Blitz MGM? =)
j [/quote]
No, Heatter did that one without Quigley(in association with Peter Marshall Enterprises). King World owns the international format rights to that show.
I guess there's an off-off chance that if the Sony/MGM merging happens, and MGM holds any episodes of the two runs of Gambit, GSN would air those episodes with the new-found success of WOrld Series of Blackjack.
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"Just Men" was an Orion holding as well, so MGM would have that as well.
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and i hope they can get the righjts to those and battlestars
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 05:09 PM\'] [quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 06:06 PM\'] [quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:57 PM\'] That won't work, cause the late Gene Rayburn requested that they never air again. [/quote]
How much legal weight does a request carry exactly? [/quote]
And wasn't it said that that was just a rumor based on Gene Wood's claim that Gene R. was "dragged kicking and screaming into the hour?"
Either way, it won't be back. If we can't get TJW, TTD, or even Bullseye on GSN, MG/HS won't be. [/quote]
Gptta agree. It would be like AMC suddenly announcing that they acquired a series of silent movies, to be quite honest.
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Regarding the possible Sony Pictures/MGM merger,
While GSN may not be interested in MGM's library of game shows, it is possible that one of the library titles (most likely High Rollers or Gambit) may be revived in a new version.
Also, all pre-1986 MGM movies are currently owned by Warner Bros. (via Ted Turner). So, Sony will not have any of those unless Warners sells them.
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[quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 02:14 PM\'] While GSN may not be interested in MGM's library of game shows, it is possible that one of the library titles (most likely High Rollers or Gambit) may be revived in a new version.
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Normally I'd poo-poo this, but if the WSOB is really pulling decent numbers, would a GSN-produced version of Gambit be that bad of an idea?
(I can't believe I'm saying this.) Matt Vasgersian wouldn't even be a bad host.
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Possibly, I would say that There could also be revivals of High Rollers, and Gambit. I understand that MGM does not do TV Production much, but really, Sony Pictures Television could dish out new revivals of High Rollers and Gambit! How does that sound?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:21 PM\'][quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 02:14 PM\'] While GSN may not be interested in MGM's library of game shows, it is possible that one of the library titles (most likely High Rollers or Gambit) may be revived in a new version.
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Normally I'd poo-poo this, but if the WSOB is really pulling decent numbers, would a GSN-produced version of Gambit be that bad of an idea?
(I can't believe I'm saying this.) Matt Vasgersian wouldn't even be a bad host.[/quote]
I should have clarified my post thusly:
"it is possible that one of the library titles (most likely High Rollers or Gambit) may be revived in a new version by Sony Pictures Television."
I wasn't thinking of GSN as a specific outlet. I was thinking more along the lines of syndication.
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I was also thinking Syndication BTW.
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[quote name=\'Jamey Greek\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:57 PM\'] I was also thinking Syndication BTW. [/quote]
Well thank heavens. It wouldn't have made much sense any other way.
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What about "Hot Seat" updated for the new millenium with electric shocks? "Since you've been married, have you ever looked at another woman?" "No, I wouldn't say that....YEEEOWW!"
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 03:13 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jamey Greek\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:57 PM\'] I was also thinking Syndication BTW. [/quote]
Well thank heavens. It wouldn't have made much sense any other way. [/quote]
It made sense?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 05:15 PM\'] [quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 03:13 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jamey Greek\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:57 PM\'] I was also thinking Syndication BTW. [/quote]
Well thank heavens. It wouldn't have made much sense any other way. [/quote]
It made sense? [/quote]
Touche.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:14 PM\'] What about "Hot Seat" updated for the new millenium with electric shocks? "Since you've been married, have you ever looked at another woman?" "No, I wouldn't say that....YEEEOWW!" [/quote]
And who would make the perfect host?
JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!
And now I got 250 posts!
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And who would make the perfect host?
JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!
I suggested Springer for the All-New 3aC that aired on GSN a coupla yrs back, even mentioning it in an e-mail to Jim Peck...his humorous response? "I resent that, I can be every bit as tasteless as Springer!"
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'Jamey Greek\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:28 PM\'] Possibly, I would say that There could also be revivals of High Rollers, and Gambit. I understand that MGM does not do TV Production much, but really, Sony Pictures Television could dish out new revivals of High Rollers and Gambit! How does that sound? [/quote]
great!
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and gsn might get the rights to the mgm library so we can see ASB and battlestars. those were good shows, i watched them when i was little
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Sigh.
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[quote name=\'Jamey Greek\' date=\'Apr 22 2004, 04:28 PM\'] Possibly, I would say that There could also be revivals of High Rollers, and Gambit. I understand that MGM does not do TV Production much, but really, Sony Pictures Television could dish out new revivals of High Rollers and Gambit! How does that sound? [/quote]
About as good of an idea as "The Neighbors" getting revived on ABC Daytime.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:57 PM\'] That won't work, cause the late Gene Rayburn requested that they never air again. [/quote]
And judging the style, format, and quality of The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour (which I agree was all wrong), I'm not sure I blame him!
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[quote name=\'AH3RD\' date=\'Apr 24 2004, 02:19 PM\'] [quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Apr 21 2004, 04:57 PM\'] That won't work, cause the late Gene Rayburn requested that they never air again. [/quote]
And judging the style, format, and quality of The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour (which I agree was all wrong), I'm not sure I blame him! [/quote]
Did you read the rest of the thread?
That was a rumor based on either A) Gene Wood's claim that he was "dragged kicking and screaming into the hour," or B) comments he made about Break the Bank.
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Just a reminder--the money's not in the actual existing programs with game shows, it's in the formats--and Sony's a lot better equipped to exploit the H-Q and other formats around the world, particularly in those markets where studio game shows are still more than viable, than MGM seemed to be.
However, there is an MGM property that the new GSN might be interested in, even if it has been exposed elsewhere on cable--"American Gladiators."