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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: JayC on April 16, 2004, 09:08:41 AM
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If you turn on HBO at 9am et, Quiz Show will be on. I've never seen it, and it sounds interesting. Enjoy if your interested!
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[quote name=\'JayC\' date=\'Apr 16 2004, 06:08 AM\'] If you turn on HBO at 9am et, Quiz Show will be on. I've never seen it, and it sounds interesting. Enjoy if your interested! [/quote]
It was okay. A little long and drawn out, but okay. The guy they got to play Jack Barry did a GREAT job. :)
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Just don't take it as a gospel history of the whole Twenty One scandal; there were more than a few fudges of the facts. (Which in some ways seems appropriate). Dick Goodwin played a lot lesser role than the movie suggests, for one thing.
But as a character study of what money and fame can make us do, it's very good indeed.
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I only got to see the first hour of it, but it was pretty good. Yeah, the guy who played Jack Barry did a GREAT job, and I was pretty well done.
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Yeah, Christopher MacDonald (Jack Barry) played one of his best roles in a long time, I actually loved Quiz Show.
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Quiz Show is my favorite movie of all time. The 21 set looked great!
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Apr 16 2004, 12:57 PM\'] Just don't take it as a gospel history of the whole Twenty One scandal; there were more than a few fudges of the facts. ... [/quote]
For example, in the movie Charles defeated Herb by reaching 21. IIRC, Van Doren stopped the game leading 18-10.
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Despite the historical flubs, I'll agree with many and say it's a EXCELLENT film. If you haven't seen this film yet, I strongly suggest to take a look at it.
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I say it was a GREAT film. I like how John Turturro played the role of Herbert Stempel. Ralph Fiennes played Charles Van Doren. I like the part where Herb and Dan Enright (David Paymer) fight over Van Doren. "You and Charles Van [bleep]ing Doren!"
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For example, in the movie Charles defeated Herb by reaching 21. IIRC, Van Doren stopped the game leading 18-10.
Also, the Civil War question on H.W. Halleck actually came much earlier in the actual ep (before the "Marty" question, where Stempel took the dive), unlike the movie where Van Doren reached 21 and won on it.
Not to mention that during the Enright/Stempel argument, you can see a tally board w/the B&E logo and the names of their shows on it...Concentration can clearly be seen on the board, yet it wouldn't premiere for another 2 yrs.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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That board is where I saw Dough Re Mi listed and why I asked about it. Does anyone have a site listing the historial blunders in Quiz Show? I have been thinking about getting it on DVD.
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It's a page I've been toying about doing for some time, but haven't had the time or inclination.
Incidentally, the fact that Christopher McDonald played Jack Barry in "Quiz Show" was the basis of a Secret Square question on last night's "Hollywood Squares", answered correctly by a guy who probably has seen "Quiz Show" about 20 times, Elmo.
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Apr 17 2004, 11:28 PM\'] It's a page I've been toying about doing for some time, but haven't had the time or inclination.
Incidentally, the fact that Christopher McDonald played Jack Barry in "Quiz Show" was the basis of a Secret Square question on last night's "Hollywood Squares", answered correctly by a guy who probably has seen "Quiz Show" about 20 times, Elmo. [/quote]
"Everything I learned about game show hosting, I learned from Christopher McDonald" -- Tom Bergeron from a Whoopi-era Squares
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I felt Paymer's capturing of Enright's 50's oiliness was perfect. In some ways, Dan came off as one of the most honest people in the play. He was a hustler who knew most of us keep the same desires he has cloaked with layers of alleged respectability to remain socially acceptable. He figured Van Doren wanted it all, too, and laid out the excuse Van Doren (like all the others) could use to put a nice scent on their baser instincts. Dan claims to have learned from the experience. Whether that meant he reformed some aspects of his personality or just learned how to not to get caught making the same mistakes again will be one for the history books.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Apr 18 2004, 11:08 AM\'] I felt Paymer's capturing of Enright's 50's oiliness was perfect. ... [/quote]
One can't help but wonder whether David Paymer may be typecast when it comes to future projects. For example, he was most recently the mob boss on the ABC drama Line of Fire. Same for John Turturro, whose most recent role I recall was another unbearable-in-the-public-eye TV personality--Howard Cosell in that Monday Night Football telefilm for Turner.
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Apr 18 2004, 08:49 AM\'] Same for John Turturro, whose most recent role I recall was another unbearable-in-the-public-eye TV personality--Howard Cosell in that Monday Night Football telefilm for Turner. [/quote]
He guest-starred in an episode of "Monk" a few months ago, playing Monk's agoraphobic brother. Quite different from Howard Cosell.