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Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: PeterMarshallFan on April 14, 2004, 06:01:59 PM
http://www.gameshowultraplex.com/images/03matchgame.jpg (http://\"http://www.gameshowultraplex.com/images/03matchgame.jpg\")

That is one weird looking mike that Gene has...
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: Chief-O on April 14, 2004, 06:52:47 PM
I don't know.....

But the mic looks to be the same one Monty used on LMAD '84, except with the windscreen on it.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: sshuffield70 on April 14, 2004, 07:06:07 PM
Thanks, George.

That was originally posted at the MSN group a good while back.  I do have more pictures.  I apologize that it's not completely ready.  I'm still adding more stuff to it.  That, and I can't seem to work my software correctly.

BTW, as of this post, the links below still go to one of the groups instead of the Ultraplex itself.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: BrandonFG on April 14, 2004, 07:17:34 PM
[quote name=\'Chief-O\' date=\'Apr 14 2004, 05:52 PM\'] I don't know.....

But the mic looks to be the same one Monty used on LMAD '84, except with the windscreen on it. [/quote]
 Don't think so...Monty's was fatter, and right between the ball and the base was a thinner silver cylinder. Unless that thinner cylinder is being concealed by the windscreen. :-)
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: JMFabiano on April 15, 2004, 01:31:31 AM
I still wonder if the person who says he has a three-contestant MG segment picture has gotten the pic in a computerized form yet.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: sshuffield70 on April 15, 2004, 10:43:13 AM
If he does, it's not in possession anywhere.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: Pyramid80 on April 15, 2004, 11:03:06 AM
[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 14 2004, 11:31 PM\'] I still wonder if the person who says he has a three-contestant MG segment picture has gotten the pic in a computerized form yet. [/quote]
 I will try and take a digital picture of it tonight and see if it shows up o.k.  If it doesn't then I can scan it at work.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: Pyramid80 on April 15, 2004, 04:48:39 PM
Here is the photo as promised with the 3 podiums during the Match Game segment.  I am sorry for the bad quality photo, but not having a scanner this is the best that I could do.  Also, this is a free web hosting account so if you can't view it now, try again tomorrow.

Josh

MG/HS Hour (http://\"http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/100883/MVC-024S.JPG\")
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: PeterMarshallFan on April 15, 2004, 06:44:37 PM
Wow. That is just bizarre.

Although, I do have an idea of how they might have conducted that---two rounds with three questions, top two winners play HS. They'd have played the same amount of material as they did under the three round/two question format.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: Kevin Prather on April 15, 2004, 06:52:23 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Apr 14 2004, 04:17 PM\'] Monty's was fatter, and right between the ball and the base was a thinner silver cylinder. [/quote]
 Ya sure you're not thinking of C3PO? ;-)
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: zachhoran on April 15, 2004, 07:15:33 PM
[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Apr 15 2004, 05:44 PM\'] Wow. That is just bizarre.

Although, I do have an idea of how they might have conducted that---two rounds with three questions, top two winners play HS. They'd have played the same amount of material as they did under the three round/two question format. [/quote]
 Or they could have the contestant who matched the most stars play Squares with the returning champion, and use the format you describe for the first show or when someone retired undefeated on the previous show.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: Adam Nedeff on April 15, 2004, 08:53:23 PM
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Or they could have the contestant who matched the most stars play Squares with the returning champion, and use the format you describe for the first show or when someone retired undefeated on the previous show.

Bad idea. Audiences would probably be thrown by formats changing completely under unique circumstances. That's why shows like "Face the Music" and "Now You See It" had de facto champions for those situations.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: ChuckNet on April 16, 2004, 10:50:21 PM
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Bad idea. Audiences would probably be thrown by formats changing completely under unique circumstances. That's why shows like "Face the Music" and "Now You See It" had de facto champions for those situations.

Ditto Scrabble, during the first 2 yrs...I used to wonder why they didn't start w/an extra player on eps w/no returning champ, but then Adam's logic kinda dawned on me. :-)

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: aaron sica on April 16, 2004, 10:52:11 PM
[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Apr 15 2004, 04:48 PM\'] Here is the photo as promised with the 3 podiums during the Match Game segment.  I am sorry for the bad quality photo, but not having a scanner this is the best that I could do.  Also, this is a free web hosting account so if you can't view it now, try again tomorrow.

Josh

MG/HS Hour (http://\"http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/100883/MVC-024S.JPG\") [/quote]
 For anyone who has the book "Total Television", I'm guessing that probably explains why in the description of MG/HS hour, it states that three contestants played the MG segment....
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: sshuffield70 on April 17, 2004, 12:47:08 PM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Apr 16 2004, 09:50 PM\']
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Bad idea. Audiences would probably be thrown by formats changing completely under unique circumstances. That's why shows like "Face the Music" and "Now You See It" had de facto champions for those situations.

Ditto Scrabble, during the first 2 yrs...I used to wonder why they didn't start w/an extra player on eps w/no returning champ, but then Adam's logic kinda dawned on me. :-)

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
 Right, but if the de facto champion lost, they immediately played the next game, because they had the right to do so.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: Don Minyard on April 17, 2004, 04:00:52 PM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Apr 16 2004, 09:50 PM\']
Ditto Scrabble, during the first 2 yrs...I used to wonder why they didn't start w/an extra player on eps w/no returning champ, but then Adam's logic kinda dawned on me. :-)

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Scrabble typically played two crossword games immediately after an undefeated champion.  This way they could get two players for the Sprint round.

After I won the $40,000 and was retired they brought back a player who might have been disadvantaged in a Sprint round.  She was my opponent in my fifth Sprint, which was at the end of a tape day.  We got in four Sprint rounds before lunch the next day, and at lunch my former opponent showed up, so she could be a stand-in champion if I won the next game.  I did, she was, and she won three games before being defeated by the next $40,000 winner.

And so went the days of my life.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: zachhoran on April 17, 2004, 07:29:37 PM
[quote name=\'Don Minyard\' date=\'Apr 17 2004, 03:00 PM\']
Scrabble typically played two crossword games immediately after an undefeated champion.  This way they could get two players for the Sprint round.

After I won the $40,000 and was retired they brought back a player who might have been disadvantaged in a Sprint round.  She was my opponent in my fifth Sprint, which was at the end of a tape day.  We got in four Sprint rounds before lunch the next day, and at lunch my former opponent showed up, so she could be a stand-in champion if I won the next game.  I did, she was, and she won three games before being defeated by the next $40,000 winner.

And so went the days of my life. [/quote]
 These rules of course apply to the pre-Bonus Sprint era format.

After Annie became the very first 10-time undefeated champion(in the days where 5 wins added $20K and 10 wins added another $20K to a player's winnings rather than just increasing the player's total to $20K), they played another Sprint round immediately after her 10th Sprint to determine the next champion. All future undefeated champions saw two crossword games played immediately after.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: calliaume on April 17, 2004, 07:48:32 PM
[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Apr 15 2004, 05:44 PM\'] Wow. That is just bizarre.

Although, I do have an idea of how they might have conducted that---two rounds with three questions, top two winners play HS. They'd have played the same amount of material as they did under the three round/two question format. [/quote]
 Only way they could play.  My original thought was maybe the the third player was the returning champion, whose job was basically to sit there and wait to see who won the MG segment, but the scoreboard readout eliminated that idea.

Obviously Mark Goodson gave more thought to the show than I first realized.  Just not enough on the hosts.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: Adam Nedeff on April 17, 2004, 11:00:48 PM
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Obviously Mark Goodson gave more thought to the show than I first realized. Just not enough on the hosts.

Well, deciding who should host the Match Game segment didn't require any thought at all. :-)

And since Goodson evidently did kick around a few ideas for formats around the office, I wonder if they ever considered a "straddling" format for MG/HS. Both halves used the original nighttime show formats. Would the show have worked better if they stuck with 2 rounds of Match Game and 2 out of 3 games for Hollywood Squares, and just started the whole thing over when time was left over during the hour? Anyone? Anyone?
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: JMFabiano on April 17, 2004, 11:40:28 PM
Yeah, the three contestants/two rounds MG makes sense, as does the top two players playing HS.  But where'd ya suppose the returning champion would fit in?
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: calliaume on April 18, 2004, 07:48:30 PM
[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 17 2004, 10:40 PM\'] Yeah, the three contestants/two rounds MG makes sense, as does the top two players playing HS.  But where'd ya suppose the returning champion would fit in? [/quote]
 Returning champions wouldn't have been absolutely necessary.  Let's face it, it's not like they would have run a Tournament of Champions somewhere down the line.

To be honest, anyone who wins $20,000 or more after an hour on that show should have considered themselves extremely lucky -- neither MG or HS required a huge amount of smarts.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: JMFabiano on April 20, 2004, 06:28:55 AM
[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Apr 18 2004, 06:48 PM\'] [quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 17 2004, 10:40 PM\'] Yeah, the three contestants/two rounds MG makes sense, as does the top two players playing HS.  But where'd ya suppose the returning champion would fit in? [/quote]
Returning champions wouldn't have been absolutely necessary.  Let's face it, it's not like they would have run a Tournament of Champions somewhere down the line.

To be honest, anyone who wins $20,000 or more after an hour on that show should have considered themselves extremely lucky -- neither MG or HS required a huge amount of smarts. [/quote]
 True, but having champions was largely the trend on network shows.

On a semi-related topic, does anyone have any memories of all-time highest MG/HS winners?  On the tapes I have, the Super Match is rarely won, but the potential for high payoffs made me curious.
Title: Another MG/HS pilot picture?
Post by: zachhoran on April 20, 2004, 09:56:01 AM
[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 20 2004, 05:28 AM\']
On a semi-related topic, does anyone have any memories of all-time highest MG/HS winners?  On the tapes I have, the Super Match is rarely won, but the potential for high payoffs made me curious. [/quote]
 RIck Diamond reported on Usenet in 2000 that two contestants managed to win the $30K in the Super Match twice(one player did it two days in  a row). One of those players became the all time winner with around $66K. Another post on Usenet stated there were six $30K wins in the show's nine month run.